From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #318 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, October 31 2003 Volume 03 : Number 318 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! [rlewis@nethere.com (Russ Lewis)] Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! [Jack Lippold ] [loud-fans] update from Fogeyville [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! [Miles Goosens ] [loud-fans] weird costume link? [me@justanotherfuckin.com] Re: [loud-fans] weird costume link + halloween viewing [Chris Prew ] [loud-fans] Guadalcanal Diary [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD ["Tim Walters" ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] Guadalcanal Diary [Mike Curley ] Re: [loud-fans] update from Fogeyville [Jenny Grover ] [loud-fans] Da dvd [Gil Ray ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] weird costume link + halloween viewing ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD [Jenny Grover ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:28:21 -0800 From: rlewis@nethere.com (Russ Lewis) Subject: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! Nobody is going to believe this. Remember how we've had discussions of "What's the weirdest song you've heard on the P.A. in a public place?" My all-time weirdest was the 101 Strings arrangement of "Journey to the Center of the Mynd" at Grossmont Center in San Diego CA, but tonight something happened that surpassed even that. (I should also throw in that one time about ten years ago, while waiting in the Grossmont Bank in La Mesa CA, I heard "Flute Thing" by the Blues Project. You gotta wonder who's programming these things.) Tonight while a friend and I were perusing a furniture store -- "Gallery Z"? -- in Fashion Valley in San Diego, I heard something I hadn't heard in years and couldn't believe I was hearing: "Clean Clean" by the Buggles. It would have been astonishing enough to hear "Video Killed the Radio Star" on the P.A., but "Clean Clean"? I was powerless to explain to my music-indifferent friend why this freaked me out so much. I told her that normally they program stuff that everyone knows, not some obscure cut that only one or two record collectors know. OK, somebody top this. * * * This job'd be perfect if people didn't check out the books. -- employee at UCSD's main library ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:46:01 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! At 12:28 AM 10/30/2003 -0800, Russ Lewis wrote: >OK, somebody top this. Best I can do is the Normal's original version of "Warm Leatherette," on a headphone channel of an Air Canada flight to Toronto sometime last year. This gets extra points both for not being the comparatively better-known Grace Jones cover and, especially, for being a freakin' weird, fairly disturbing electronic track that, uh, is about the erotic pleasures of car crashes. Now, a car is not a plane, I know, but if they're so sensitive that they'll cut the Qantas scene out of the in-flight version of RAIN MAN because it alludes to airplane crashes, who's to say some sensitive soul won't freak out over this? S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:01:14 -0600 From: Jack Lippold Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! Not a topper, but weird nonetheless: As far back as 1983, I once heard a Muzak version of Kim Wilde's "Kids in America". At 03:46 AM 10/30/2003 -0500, Stewart Mason wrote: >At 12:28 AM 10/30/2003 -0800, Russ Lewis wrote: > >OK, somebody top this. > >Best I can do is the Normal's original version of "Warm Leatherette," on a >headphone channel of an Air Canada flight to Toronto sometime last year. >This gets extra points both for not being the comparatively better-known >Grace Jones cover and, especially, for being a freakin' weird, fairly >disturbing electronic track that, uh, is about the erotic pleasures of car >crashes. Now, a car is not a plane, I know, but if they're so sensitive >that they'll cut the Qantas scene out of the in-flight version of RAIN MAN >because it alludes to airplane crashes, who's to say some sensitive soul >won't freak out over this? > >S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:27:19 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] update from Fogeyville Here's a couple of artists I've had time to give a listen or three to this week: THE RAPTURE - ECHOES To be fair, it wasn't exactly an unqualified recommendation -- Rog compared it to the Cure and the Pixies, but wasn't sure if he liked it; Aaron Mandel liked a couple of tracks a lot and wasn't sure about the rest. I used my $5 certificate at Best Buy to get it for $1.99 + tax, so even if Aaron's two picks were the only reason to have it, I'd still be in the ballpark of the iTunes pay rate. And so far (2+ listens), like both Rog and Aaron, I'm not sure about it. The strongest Cure resemblance is in the singer's voice; the music doesn't have a singular identity identity so much as it switches between '90s dance grooves, Gang of Four abrasiveness, and early PiL dissonance. Don't hear any Pixies so far, Rog, but then again, you weren't sure about that comparison, IIRC. Aaron said: >The rest of the album, I'm not so sure about. The guy's voice is grim and >grating when it's not completely bypassing one's cerebrum by riding on the >music's ass-shaking power, and said power isn't quite there for most of >the other nine tracks. He's right on about all of that. And though British Sea Power is a band that lacks the dancier ambitions of the Rapture, I had a similar problem with them -- BSP's lead singer has a voice that (at least at this stage in its development) tends to grate on me. >It might grow on me, though, and anyone who likes >early PiL more than I do (not that I *hate* it) might find Echoes entirely >agreeable. I like early PiL a lot (though ALBUM and HAPPY? are my favorites), and I'm not finding the CD entirely agreeable, at least not yet. While I'm seconding Aaron, I'll also second his "might grow on me" caveat. I don't regret buying the CD, since $1.99 is worth it for the highlights. COBRA VERDE - NIGHTLIFE Truth be told, I had avoided Cobra Verde up until now, mostly because of the GBV connection (even if the Guided by Verde tour ended badly with Pollard dumping the band via an ADDICTED TO NOISE interview and Bob stealing CV's lead guitarist), and despite being intrigued by the early Roxy Music decadence of NIGHTLIFE's cover. But after the most recent round of recommendations (albeit centered around their latest, EASY LISTENING), I ordered NIGHTLIFE straight from Cobra Verde's website. This weekend, the CD arrived in the mail, in a package containing four different CV matchbooks, a CV sticker, and a nice handwritten note from singer John Petkovic, so I would have had nice things to say about their customer service even if I didn't like the CD. Lucky for me, the CD exceeded every expectation, and NIGHTLIFE hasn't left the car's CD player since I put it in. Somehow it manages to hit the early Roxy and Bowie/Ronson heights it's after without sounding derivative or dated. The playing is red-hot and the album is almost too stuffed with great songs, all of which have been competing for the "stuck-in-cerebellum" spot when I'm away from music of my choosing. And CV doesn't remind me of GBV even a little, which for me is a good thing. I've already ordered EASY LISTENING. Thanks to all who had good things to say about them! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:05:03 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Roger Winston wrote: > So, anyone else watch their Loud Family DVD yet? Any opinions? I liked it okay. I had my hopes raised by From Ritual To Romance, which is possibly one of my favorite live albums ever. It "felt live". The performances were good, the covers were well worthwhile, blah blah blah. It even had some of the best cover art I think Scott has ever used (though, like many people, I don't think that's a very hotly contested category). Of course, I'm biased in comparing FRTR to other live albums, being a big fan of the LF and all, but that same bias applies to the DVD... Anyway, the DVD felt like what I guess it was -- a fan documenting the band's last tour. I know even less about the mechanics of making a movie than I do about making a record; it could be that in terms of the surface look, the DVD looks as good as you can possibly get without expensive gear or a team of camerapeople. That being as it may, almost every time the camera moved from one spot to another during a song, it grabbed my attention away from the music and made me feel like I was watching a home movie. The audio's great; no complaints there. If I could capture it to a CD, I would probably be listening to it a lot. The band's "Tearjerkin'" sent me to the store to buy Stand For Decibels, despite my prior dB's experiences having all been kind of blah. (I didn't immediately fall in love, but I think I can appreciate them now in a way that I did not as a 14-year-old whose only knowledge about the dB's was that They Might Be Giants name-dropped them in a song.) And I haven't gone back over setlists to see if the composite 'set list' for the DVD is roughly what the band was doing on the tour or if the songs were re-ordered, but it's good. The non-musical sections were kind of mixed. More than one of the interviewees kinda had nothing to say; Scott's time on-screen is direly low, particularly considering how funny he is in the one scene where we really hear him talk. But even the spoken sections I didn't much like didn't break the rhythm of the disc; I actually liked having a few songs, then a break, then a few more songs... So it has a lot of flaws, but I can hardly imagine someone who would seriously consider getting it in the first place not enjoying watching it at least once. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:09:53 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! At 03:46 AM 10/30/2003 -0500, Stewart Mason wrote: >Now, a car is not a plane, I know, but if they're so sensitive >that they'll cut the Qantas scene out of the in-flight version of RAIN MAN >because it alludes to airplane crashes, who's to say some sensitive soul >won't freak out over this? When I flew from Chicago to London on Virgin Atlantic, one of the movie options was an uncut FIGHT CLUB, which has a plane crash scene early in the film. When you chose the movie, you did get a warning about the scene. and I watched B.MONKEY and WESTWAY TO THE WORLD that night too, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:29:23 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Aaron Mandel wrote: > I had my hopes raised by From Ritual To Romance, which is possibly one of > my favorite live albums ever. It "felt live". The performances were good, > the covers were well worthwhile, blah blah blah. It even had some of the > best cover art I think Scott has ever used (though, like many people, I > don't think that's a very hotly contested category). I don't think the DVD's cover will place high in "best cover art," though... > Anyway, the DVD felt like what I guess it was -- a fan documenting the > band's last tour. I know even less about the mechanics of making a movie > than I do about making a record; it could be that in terms of the surface > look, the DVD looks as good as you can possibly get without expensive gear > or a team of camerapeople. That being as it may, almost every time the > camera moved from one spot to another during a song, it grabbed my > attention away from the music and made me feel like I was watching a home > movie. > > The audio's great; no complaints there. If I could capture it to a CD, I > would probably be listening to it a lot. The band's "Tearjerkin'" sent me > to the store to buy Stand For Decibels, despite my prior dB's experiences > having all been kind of blah. (I didn't immediately fall in love, but I > think I can appreciate them now in a way that I did not as a 14-year-old > whose only knowledge about the dB's was that They Might Be Giants > name-dropped them in a song.) And I haven't gone back over setlists to see > if the composite 'set list' for the DVD is roughly what the band was doing > on the tour or if the songs were re-ordered, but it's good. > > The non-musical sections were kind of mixed. More than one of the > interviewees kinda had nothing to say; Scott's time on-screen is direly > low, particularly considering how funny he is in the one scene where we > really hear him talk. But even the spoken sections I didn't much like > didn't break the rhythm of the disc; I actually liked having a few songs, > then a break, then a few more songs... What he said. That performacne of "Tearjerkin'" is fantastic, and the dropback to quiet at the end of "Asleep and Awake..." was very tight. I continue to think Scott's underheralded as a guitar player: he's not flashy, but he writes good parts and plays them quite well and seemingly effortlessly. And the couple-three leads he takes are pretty hot - on "Nice When We Want Something" I actually prefer this solo to Keneally's. Also...yeah, too bad about the lack of Scott-interviewing. Anyone who played only the interview sections might be forgiven for thinking this is Gil Ray's band...the ham! > So it has a lot of flaws, but I can hardly imagine someone who would > seriously consider getting it in the first place not enjoying watching it > at least once. And was it just the light, or did Scott, Kenny, and Alison do a fashion tribute to UPS at that one show (Gil didn't get the memo, evidently)? Maybe the clothes were really black - but they looked brown in that light! It'd be nice if it had a commentary track - but the easter egg with the impromptu rap medley was priceless. Who knew Alison was the premier human beatbox? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ::Never drive a car when you're dead:: __Tom Waits__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:07:11 -0800 (PST) From: me@justanotherfuckin.com Subject: [loud-fans] weird costume link? i think it was someone from this list that sent out the link to the weird costumes, including rubik's cube. and, of course, i don't remember how to get to the archives... help? brianna - -- What's the point of wearing your favorite rocketship underpants if nobody ever asks to see 'em? - Calvin - -- recent adventures in tech support at http://www.pirate.org/people/hello/cat_techterror.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:33:43 -0600 From: Chris Prew Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weird costume link + halloween viewing http://www.retrocrush.com/ -- in addition to the costumes, check out the "KoolAid man" prank. They have a 100 scariest movies moments up there right now too, which is kind of interesting, but by no means definitive. It's been kind of a renaissance lately for indie horror, what with "May", and "Ginger Snaps" and loads of japanese films leading the pack, but also recommended is a recent video release called "Session 9". While flawed in a lot of little ways, it has a couple of the more undeniably creepy scenes I've seen lately, and a fairly intelligent plot (not to mention an outstanding location). More proof that good horror comes from good direction, and minimal gore (although Session 9 gets a little bloody at the end). Chris On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 02:07 PM, me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: > i think it was someone from this list that sent out the > link to the weird costumes, including rubik's cube. > and, of course, i don't remember how to get to the > archives... help? > > brianna > > -- > What's the point of wearing your favorite rocketship > underpants if nobody ever asks to see 'em? - Calvin > -- > recent adventures in tech support at > http://www.pirate.org/people/hello/cat_techterror.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:27:48 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] copyright question I well familiar with the circled "C" copyright symbol, and the circled "R" is for trademark but what is the appropriate use of the circled "P"? And if needed where the hell do you find that symbol within your standard MS Windows fonts? Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:50:52 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] RE: Hit song science Roger: > Here's a Halloween scare for ya. I don't remember if we've brought this up > before. There's a company that will tell you if your unreleased song has hit > potential or not, based on mathematical formulas: Reminds me of the cover of Project: Mersh by the minutemem... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:56:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] copyright question Larry Tucker wrote: > I well familiar with the circled "C" copyright symbol, and the circled > "R" is for trademark but what is the appropriate use of the circled "P"? "Phonorecord" copyright. For a song, circle-C represents the copyright to the song itself (governing cover versions, etc.) while circle-P represents the copyright to a specific recording (what the RIAA is all het up about). These two copyrights can be and often are owned by different parties. > And if needed where the hell do you find that symbol within your > standard MS Windows fonts? You can't, I think. But some kind soul made a shareware font called "(P)" a while back that consists of nothing but circle-Ps matched to a whole bunch of common fonts. Looking at the readme, though, I see that it's Mac-only. Bummer. Maybe there's a Windows equivalent out there somewhere. You can usually fake it in your layout software with a circle and a P, but getting it to match the circle-C is a big ol' pain, as is moving it around whenever the text reflows. - -- SHALMANESER Artifically unintelligent twitching disco brain http://www.doubtfulpalace.com/artists/Shalmaneser ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:59:03 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Aaron Mandel wrote: > The audio's great; no complaints there. If I could capture it to a CD, I > would probably be listening to it a lot. I've been wondering how to do that very thing. Is there some after-market way to digitally capture DVD audio to a CD? > The band's "Tearjerkin'" sent me > to the store to buy Stand For Decibels, despite my prior dB's experiences > having all been kind of blah.. And I haven't gone back over setlists to see > if the composite 'set list' for the DVD is roughly what the band was doing > on the tour or if the songs were re-ordered, but it's good. This was the standard setlist for the ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE tour. They did different songs for encores, but this was what the setlist proper usually looked like. Nice When I Want Something Idiot Son Years Of Wrong Impressions Backward Century No One's Watching My Limo Ride Motion Of Ariel The Waist and the Knees Cortex the Killer Blackness, Blackness Tearjerkin' (dB's cover) Just Gone 720 Times Happier Than the Unjust Man Sister Sleep So, unlike FRTR (which was sequenced in concert order), the DVD is sequentially all over the place as well as being taken from a bunch of different shows, without much chronological order. 2000 was long enough time ago that it doesn't really bother me that the DVD begins at the ends of a set (720 times) and ends at the beginning of one (Nice When I Want Something), but it would be nice to have graphics that say "Cleveland", "New York", "Minneapolis" to show where each song is performed. Useless Trivia: To give everyone an idea of how long ago that LF tour was, my interview segment was filmed in Cleveland on April 14, 2000 (aka "Black Friday"), which was the day the NASDAQ dropped 400 points and the dot-com IPO bubble officially burst. That seems so long ago now! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:46:29 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] Guadalcanal Diary Just got a Rhino Handmade alert about a Handmade edition of WALKING IN THE SHADOW OF THE BIG MAN. But they date the album as '83 -- wasn't it out on DB Records in '84 and then picked up by Elektra in '85? I'm not a big Guadalcanal Diary fan, as I think they would have been much improved by spreading their humor over their entire albums instead of confining it to a single nifty almost-novelty song per album (ex: "Watusi Rodeo"), but WALKING IN THE SHADOW... is good enough that I might spring for it, even though I have the twofer reissue of it and JAMBOREE. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:59:00 -0800 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] copyright question > From: "Tim Walters" > > Larry Tucker wrote: >> And if needed where the hell do you find that symbol within your >> standard MS Windows fonts? > > You can't, I think. But some kind soul made a shareware font called "(P)" > a while back that consists of nothing but circle-Ps matched to a whole > bunch of common fonts. Looking at the readme, though, I see that it's > Mac-only. Bummer. Maybe there's a Windows equivalent out there somewhere. This font is available for both Mac and Windows at The Fantastic 'p' Font Page: . It's 'buy-Jon-a-drink'-ware, which means you send the author $5, he sends you the fonts via e-mail, and he goes out and buys a bottle of "plonk." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Steve Holtebeck wrote: > I've been wondering how to do that very thing. Is there some > after-market way to digitally capture DVD audio to a CD? DVD audio runs at a different sample rate from CD audio, so even if you ripped it or digitally recorded it you'd have to convert it. You could always go analog, of course. - -- SHALMANESER Artifically unintelligent twitching disco brain http://www.doubtfulpalace.com/artists/Shalmaneser ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:21:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Aaron Mandel wrote: > The audio's great; no complaints there. If I could capture it to a CD, I > would probably be listening to it a lot. The audio was worked on by Scott himself, taking the audio track from the video and running it through various devices to make it sound "better". Why hasn't anyone mentioned Kenny's Geddy Lee impression? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:47:09 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Curley Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Guadalcanal Diary I'm definitely going to get this one because it also includes the "Watusi Rodeo" ep. I've been looking for it for a long time. Mike Miles Goosens wrote: I'm not a big Guadalcanal Diary fan, as I think they would have been much improved by spreading their humor over their entire albums instead of confining it to a single nifty almost-novelty song per album (ex: "Watusi Rodeo"), but WALKING IN THE SHADOW... is good enough that I might spring for it, even though I have the twofer reissue of it and JAMBOREE. Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:30:13 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] update from Fogeyville Miles Goosens wrote: >THE RAPTURE - ECHOES > How does it compare to Out of the Races and Onto the Tracks? >COBRA VERDE - NIGHTLIFE > Ah, yes. My fave Cobra album. And their customer service is very fine, indeed. When I ordered Easy Listening, it seemed to take forever to arrive. It finally did, with a full page, handwritten apology and explanation letter from John P. Apparently he handles all the orders, and the band was on tour at the time I ordered. And they always send nice swag. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:55:33 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Rhino Handmade to rerelease Guadalcanal Diary >...."Walking in the Shadow of the Big Man" w/ Watusi Rodeo EP included plus >one unreleased track. Info at: >http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=7841 . There's a piece of information in this write-up that I truly hope like hell I actually knew at some point and have simply forgotten, in the sentence: "Conceiving a new group that would play oddball covers, Civil War ballads, and original songs, Attaway and Walls enlisted John Poe on drums and Attaway's then-girlfriend Rhett Crowe on bass." Then-girlfriend? Um...I mean no insult here at all, I'm just confused. Rhett Crowe was a girl? Seriously? The Mike Mills-lookin' dude? Actually, I just pulled my CD of 2x4, the only one of their albums I have with full-body shots of the band. Huh. Yeah, Rhett Crowe was either a woman or a guy with an unfortuante set of pec implants. I feel remarkably dumb now. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:10:56 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Rhino Handmade to rerelease Guadalcanal Diary Don't feel dumb, Stewart. I feel perverted. Rhett always made me itchy and hot. God...what's happening to me? Gil - --- Stewart Mason wrote: > Then-girlfriend? Um...I mean no insult here at all, > I'm just confused. > Rhett Crowe was a girl? Seriously? The Mike > Mills-lookin' dude? > > Actually, I just pulled my CD of 2x4, the only one > of their albums I have > with full-body shots of the band. Huh. Yeah, Rhett > Crowe was either a > woman or a guy with an unfortuante set of pec > implants. I feel remarkably > dumb now. > > S __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:23 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Rhino Handmade to rerelease Guadalcanal Diary In a message dated 10/30/03 7:00:00 PM, flamingo@theworld.com writes: << There's a piece of information in this write-up that I truly hope like hell I actually knew at some point and have simply forgotten, in the sentence: "Conceiving a new group that would play oddball covers, Civil War ballads, and original songs, Attaway and Walls enlisted John Poe on drums and Attaway's then-girlfriend Rhett Crowe on bass." >> To me, the strange part is knowing that Rhett and Murray were once involved, since she'd go on to marry Jeff Walls. And while she may have looked fairly butch, Rhett was actually a lot sexier onstage than, say, Anne Richmond Boston. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:17:01 -0500 From: Francis J H Park Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! Jack Lippold wrote: > Not a topper, but weird nonetheless: > As far back as 1983, I once heard a Muzak version of Kim Wilde's "Kids > in America". > Shopping for furniture in High Point NC a few years ago (back in 2001, I think), I heard the Kennedys' "Life is Large" via Muzak in a furniture outlet. I was so amazed that Pete and Maura Kennedy had ever allowed one of their songs to be transmogrified into Muzak. Narf. Francis J. H. Park http://home.sprintmail.com/~durandal - -- The man has the skill and the man has the power But the boy has the will to win and so much, so much, so much time... - New Model Army, "Heroes" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:25:23 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What the hell?!??! At 10:17 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, Francis J H Park wrote: >Shopping for furniture in High Point NC a few years ago (back in 2001, I >think), I heard the Kennedys' "Life is Large" via Muzak in a furniture >outlet. I was so amazed that Pete and Maura Kennedy had ever allowed >one of their songs to be transmogrified into Muzak. According to copyright law, there's very little a songwriter can do to stop a cover. And I bet they don't mind the checks. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:27:46 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: [loud-fans] Da dvd I was blown away by how good Tearjerkin' turned out. It's a bizarre song that gave me all sorts of consternation while I learned it. I basically had to learn the drum part note for note because the parts just did not make sense! It never seemed together when we played it, but it's nice to have proof that at least on one night, we had it right. Tricky harmonies too, especially knowing that on the record the dB's vocals were not particularly in pitch. And yes...a ham, am I. (I put the ham blame totally on Robert Toren for putting some sort of camera in my face for all of my time in GT and a large chunk of my personal life from about 1985 - 2003.I'm ...real...used..to..a..camera) The confessional of how I met Scott was shot in the downstairs "backstage" at Maxwell's in Hoboken (one of my very favorite clubs on the planet). Danny and I were determined to get drunk that night, so what you see was a direct result of us both slamming beer and tequila shots. Gil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:31:27 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Quoting "Joseph M. Mallon" : > "better". Why hasn't anyone mentioned Kenny's Geddy Lee impression? And just when I'd repressed all memory of it too! Jeff Ceci n'est pas une .sig ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:37:52 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Quoting April Foole: > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > >- but the easter egg with the > >impromptu rap medley was priceless. Who knew Alison was the premier human > >beatbox? > > Dude! How do you find this? I didn't even know about it. I fear I am once again a grievous sinner...for I made up this easter egg. This does not mean that Alison might *not* be the premier human beatbox - only that if she is, I don't know about it... Hope I didn't disappoint you too much. ..Jeff, whose ship isn't coming and who just can't pretend J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country :: will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:41:18 -0800 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weird costume link + halloween viewing thanks. i have a friend whose neighbor's daughter is going as Rubik's Cube. and that was without the input of that site. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Prew" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weird costume link + halloween viewing > > http://www.retrocrush.com/ -- in addition to the costumes, check out > the "KoolAid man" prank. > > They have a 100 scariest movies moments up there right now too, which > is kind of interesting, but by no means definitive. > > It's been kind of a renaissance lately for indie horror, what with > "May", and "Ginger Snaps" and loads of japanese films leading the pack, > but also recommended is a recent video release called "Session 9". > While flawed in a lot of little ways, it has a couple of the more > undeniably creepy scenes I've seen lately, and a fairly intelligent > plot (not to mention an outstanding location). More proof that good > horror comes from good direction, and minimal gore (although Session 9 > gets a little bloody at the end). > > Chris > > > On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 02:07 PM, me@justanotherfuckin.com > wrote: > > > i think it was someone from this list that sent out the > > link to the weird costumes, including rubik's cube. > > and, of course, i don't remember how to get to the > > archives... help? > > > > brianna > > > > -- > > What's the point of wearing your favorite rocketship > > underpants if nobody ever asks to see 'em? - Calvin > > -- > > recent adventures in tech support at > > http://www.pirate.org/people/hello/cat_techterror.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:59:42 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Dude! How do you find this? I didn't even know about it. > > I fear I am once again a grievous sinner...for I made up this easter egg. > > This does not mean that Alison might *not* be the premier human beatbox - only > that if she is, I don't know about it... She does a mean "Downtown" Julie Brown though (as cataloged in the DVD) Anyone who didn't suspect Rhett Crowe was a gurl should've paid attention to "Vista" (GD's token nifty almost-novelty song on FLIP-FLOP). A pretty high voice for a guy on that intro! Anxiously awaiting the 2x4/FLIP-FLOP two-fer, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:16:47 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD At 08:59 PM 10/30/2003 -0800, Steve Holtebeck wrote: >Anyone who didn't suspect Rhett Crowe was a gurl should've paid >attention to "Vista" (GD's token nifty almost-novelty song on >FLIP-FLOP). A pretty high voice for a guy on that intro! Again, I gotta go with the Mike Mills comparison! I really had no idea, and I don't know why I feel so sheepish about it now, except that considering how much I played WALKING... between '84 and now -- to tell the truth, I don't like any of their other albums nearly so much -- I really feel like I should have twigged at some point before this. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:19:02 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD At Thursday 10/30/2003 10:37 PM -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >I fear I am once again a grievous sinner...for I made up this easter egg. Bastard!! I just wasted 15 minutes of my life looking for that sucker. I nearly threw the remote control against the wall. You're demon bait, Norman. I always knew Rhett Crowe was of the female persuasion. However, I had no idea Gil Ray felt itchy. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:39:22 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Quoting Roger Winston : > Bastard!! I just wasted 15 minutes of my life looking for that sucker. I > nearly threw the remote control against the wall. You're demon bait, > Norman. Considering what a short drive it is, I'm amazed that I *still* haven't achieved my goal of driving Roger completely insane. > I always knew Rhett Crowe was of the female persuasion. However, I had no > idea Gil Ray felt itchy. Actually, it was more scratchy. But maybe that was just an occasional rash. Jeff Ceci n'est pas une .sig ps: fans of cute kitties and nice little children, go to . It will probably also help if you like McLusky, and will definitely help if you're aware that the full title of the song in question is "Lightsabre Cocksucking Blues" - just in case you were tempted to forward it unwatched and unheard to your sweet grandma. Turn those cheap little 'puter speakers up real loud, now! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:31:02 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF DVD Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >ps: fans of cute kitties and nice little children, go to >. > Man! I'm glad I wasn't high when I watched that. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #318 *******************************