From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #303 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, October 17 2003 Volume 03 : Number 303 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Say it Loud Fans, we're prog and we're proud ["Pete O." <] [loud-fans] Toothpaste Commercial Music ["Rex.Broome" ] [loud-fans] Gawd, this is weird ["Rex.Broome" ] [loud-fans] robert wyatt [DOUDIE@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] robert wyatt ["G. Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] iTunes for PC [Dave Walker ] [loud-fans] more EMusic weirdness [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] Fwd: Portraits with Stevie! [Gil Ray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:54:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Say it Loud Fans, we're prog and we're proud I remember reading (Mojo?) about one of Judee Sill's albums in a "lost treasure" type article a while back. Both "Judee Sill" and "Heart Food" are now available from Rhino Handmade and are currently winging their way to my address via pony express along with a copy of Television's "Live At The Waldorf". Looking forward to that delivery. - --- "G. Andrew Hamlin" wrote: > Didn't know Judee Sill; will have to investigate. Wonder what the heck > TULIPS FROM AMSTERDAM is. I note, though, that Warren Zevon covered > "Jesus Was A Cross Maker." I'm getting into the complex-harmony stuff > some; the Free Design reissues, a Spanky and Our Gang album called LIKE TO > GET TO KNOW YOU. The stuff the Folksmen call "toothpaste commerical." ===== ====== This space intentionally non-blank. ====== ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:41:13 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] Toothpaste Commercial Music Andy: >>Didn't know Judee Sill; will have to investigate. Wonder what the heck >>TULIPS FROM AMSTERDAM is. Me too. Seems to have appeared when she was dead and stuff... in 1979, which was about the time Robyn Hitchcock was growling the title phrase at the end of "Black Snake Diamond Rock". Connection, or just, like, the fact that it's not too unusual to associate tulips with Holland? >>I'm getting into the complex-harmony stuff >>some; the Free Design reissues, a Spanky and Our Gang album called >>LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU. The stuff the Folksmen call "toothpaste >>commerical." Heh... tread carefully; you might end up liking some disturbing stuff, or being disturbed at some of the stuff you end up liking. You can have my Kit-Kats reissue when you pry it from my cold, dead hands! I've seen a lot of "A Mighty Wind" lately... the wife and I are going as Mitch & Mickey this Halloween so we're learning the tunes. Dunno where the hell we're gonna get the autoharp... - -Rex "perhaps we'll see sailfish!" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:51:33 +0100 From: "Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Say it Loud Fans, we're prog and we're proud > An intriguing album, and I'm hoping Aaron has the updated, > remastered, with-bonus-stuff edition. Really, though, Mr. > Milenski, you mean to consign BLUE, COURT & SPARK, 12 SONGS, > STARSAILOR, ASTRAL WEEKS, THE WILD THE INNOCENT AND THE E > STREET SHUFFLE, MY AIM IS TRUE, SLUG LINE, HEAT TREATMENT, > HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED, PINK MOON, GRACE, SAPPHIE, and LIFE'S A > RIOT WITH SPY VS. SPY to the chopped-liver pile? I recently bought the reissue of HEAT TREATMENT which I haven't heard for ages but always thought was Parker's best - and still do. Graham's new sleeve notes are interesting in that he pretty much hates the album - - production, songs, arrangements, you name it. There are a couple of songs he thinks stand up - Fools Gold, That's What They All Say - otherwise he slags them all off. Interestingly he reckons he redeems himself on Stick To Me which my brother, a huge Parker fan, doesn't rate at all and I can't ever remember hearing it! Ian - anticipating a small package of some value arriving soon from 125... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Mitton Subject: [loud-fans] iTunes for PC iTunes makes its debut for the PC today: http://www.apple.com/itunes/ I'll certainly give it a try. While I'm writing, I'll mention that eMusic has all four Delgados albums. I'd start with "Great Eastern" if you're inclined to orchestral pop, "Domestiques" if you want something more frenetic, "Peloton" if you want to split the difference. - --Michael ===== www.openoffice.org A free, full-featured office suite that replaces Microsoft Office, but is compatibile with Office documents. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:08:20 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] Gawd, this is weird Never really recall hearing much about Judee Sill before looking at loud-fans yesterday and today, and I'm pretty sure I've never heard a single tune by her. Yet here she is on my radio all of the sudden. (Barney Hoskins is being interviewed by Nic Harcourt and choosing tracks based on a book he's doing on the "Laurel/Topanga Canyon Seventies Singer-Songwriter Scene" and he's chosen "Jesus Was a Crossmaker". Harcourt had never heard of her, either.) I dunno if synchronicity = destiny, but I sure did like that tune and may be in love with another dead music chick. (The other tune he played in that set was Mr. N. Young's "Revolution Blues", which is about as unmellow a song as you can imagine.) - -Rex, who hears that Laurel Canyon is full of famous staaaarrrz... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:58:09 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Gawd, this is weird At 12:08 PM 10/16/2003 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote: >Never really recall hearing much about Judee Sill before looking at >loud-fans yesterday and today, and I'm pretty sure I've never heard a single >tune by her. Yet here she is on my radio all of the sudden. (Barney >Hoskins is being interviewed by Nic Harcourt and choosing tracks based on a >book he's doing on the "Laurel/Topanga Canyon Seventies Singer-Songwriter >Scene" and he's chosen "Jesus Was a Crossmaker". Harcourt had never heard >of her, either.) I dunno if synchronicity = destiny, but I sure did like >that tune and may be in love with another dead music chick. "Jesus Was A Crossmaker" is an absolute killer tune, but it's not really at all representative of the rest of her stuff. Her other songs are more delicate and less overtly catchy, but they're still pretty wonderful. Somewhere around here, I have a review of this album that I wrote for a project with our own Pudman -- if perhaps he's got a copy of it handy, he could post it. > >(The other tune he played in that set was Mr. N. Young's "Revolution Blues", >which is about as unmellow a song as you can imagine.) That's utterly in keeping with Barney Hoskyns, though -- I've never read a single book of his that doesn't have an apocalyptic we're-all-going-to-hell final chapter. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:04:24 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Judee Sill >Somewhere around here, I have a review of this album that I wrote for a >project with our own Pudman -- if perhaps he's got a copy of it handy, he >could post it. Sure thing! Here's Stewart's review: There are more obscure artists [written about by this author] than Judee Sill, but none so mysterious. Very little is known about this singer/songwriters life, other than three facts: she was the stepdaughter of noted animator Ken Muse (he worked on many of the classic Tom and Jerry shorts for MGM), she was first discovered when the Turtles covered her song Lady-O (which appears in a more delicate, far superior version here), and she was a heroin addict. Its not even known for sure when or where her habit killed her; dates from 1975 to 1980 are given, in locales from the Pacific Northwest to Mexico. Sifting through the sometimes contradictory stories about this gifted but self-destructive artist, it becomes clear that no matter whose tales you believe, Judee Sill was a pretty unpleasant person all the way around. According to legend, she first discovered her musical talent during one of several stints in a juvenile correctional facility, and some (including Judee herself) said that she occasionally supported herself even through her brief recording career by turning tricks. Anecdotes from friends and family sketch a fairly corrosive portrait of a habitual liar, petty criminal and emotionally manipulative con artist. And you wouldnt guess a word of that from listening to her music. The very first album released on David Geffens legendary Asylum label, Judee Sill sounds like the musical diary of a hippie Emily Dickinson, a barefoot lank-haired waif in a granny dress and ugly glasses musing about the fragile nature of love, UFOs and cosmic visions, and above all, Jesus. Besides his walk-on role in the title of Sills finest song, Jesus Was A Crossmaker (actually about the dangers of loving a charming rogue), the carpenters son stars in both My Man In Love and The Lamb Ran Away With The Crown, and makes cameos throughout the rest of the album. The production, by Henry Lewy and ex-Turtle Jim Pons, frames Sills charmingly plain voice and simple folk-style acoustic guitar with delicate strings and subtle orchestral shadings. (Graham Nash produced Jesus, added to the album at the last minute, displacing early versions of The Pearl and The Phoenix, which both ended up re-recorded for Sills other album, 1973s Heart Food; his piano-based production, with Rita Coolidges churchy harmonies and a California-rock rhythm section, sounds like Geffen instructed him to make Sill sound like Carly Simon.) Occasionally a little wincingly pretentious--the albums dedication reads May you savor each word like a raspberry, fer chrissakes--Judee Sill sounds touchingly naove and earnest. That Judee Sill herself was apparently anything but only adds to the albums impact. She must have been a hell of a con artist. _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:47:44 EDT From: DOUDIE@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] robert wyatt I'm truly overwhelmed by all of the great records that keep coming out, especially Belle and Sebastian's DEAR CATASTROPHE WAITRESS. Trevor Horn is a genius. Add in the excellent new records from Spiritualized, Outkast, Elvis Costello, Clientele, New Pornographers, Hot Hot Heat, the Lilys, Mates of State, Mojave 3, it just won't stop! Now I found out there's a new Robert Wyatt record. As a huge fan of sleep I expect it to be excellent. Has anyone heard it or the new Stereolab record? Steve Matrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "G. Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] robert wyatt > Now I found > out there's a new Robert Wyatt record. > As a huge fan of sleep I expect it to be excellent. Looks like Wyatt has two new albums out, actually, though the other one, SOLAR FLARES BURN FOR YOU, collects BBC sessions and other rarities. All Music also lists two other albums, one called QUARTERLY VOLUME 2 and one called TRIBUTE IN POLY SONS, but these records have no listed release dates or supplied information. A record where Phil Manzenera sings but doesn't play guitar has got to be interesting, Andy Meat Loaf Nation Hit Parader January 1979 Meat Loaf - Why Him? I Would Buy A Used Car From Meat Loaf - A Political Manifesto Of Sorts by Lester Bangs Robert Christgau, whom not a man nor woman here among us would dare challenge for his throne as Dean Of American Rock Critics (Yeah, but what about the Dean of Senegalese Rock Critics, huh?) (Lisa, I beg your pardon, you do seem to get around a lot, perhaps you after all want to contest Mr. Christgau for the crown 'n' scepter or whatever the hell it is deans tote around with them? "No thanks. I have to go interview Jerri Hall...why don't you and Billy Altman slug it out with him, Lester?" Okay, if you'll change the name of this magazine from Hit Parader to Incest - come to think of it, we'd probably sell more copies of it that way, specially if we put the Bee Gees on the cover into the bargain), recently said to me these exact words: "I'm proud that the Village Voice 'Riffs" section," which Big Bob edits, "is the last bastion of pretentious rock criticism." We were having two beers and two hamburgers at the time. And speaking of time (oh, yeah; that stuff), in the time between these thoughts and words turn turn turning till everybody's been burned one must in the face of all artificial energy ask if this is placing too great a burden on Bob's shoulders. I think so, don't you? Sure. (God, I feel like Mr. Rogers, writing in this lousy magazine.) Okay, so let's, uh, let's...hey let's SEIZE THE MOTHAHUMPIN TIME & DAM WELL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? I WANNA KNOW, ARE YOU PART OF THE SOLUTION OR PART OF THE PROBLEM? IT ONLY TAKES FIVE SECONDS TO DECIDE YOUR PURPOSE HERE ON THE PLANET? (To steal Super Sneaky Squirtin' Sticks c. WHAM-O Inc., from Kay-Mart, that's why.) SO I WANNA KNOW ARE YOU READY FOR THE NIGHT TRAIN? READY READY READY READY and furthermore GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE? I GOT MAH EYES WIDE OPEN! Well, then, good then - we will hereinafter endeavor to make Hit Parader the most pretentious rock mag around: critics whom no one has ever heard of or certainly would not recognize on the street squabbling interminably over nothing like whether say Kaya or Darkness at the Edge of Town is (as sex critic A) "one of the most masterful manifestations of a fundamental change in the dental charts of rock occurring during this vernal equinox" or (according to Brew 102) "a bucket of shit." Yeah! What fun all you readers'll have, watching us rock critics here every month, picking the onions out of each others' teeth! So, herewith and with no little pomp I fire the first salvo: MEATLOF! (oops, spelled it wrong) Meat Loaf is (sic) a genius. I'm listening to his first album through headphones right now as I write this, and you can see from what rubbish you already read how this record has inspired me. I love it. Wow, here comes the Delaney & Bonnie section! Hey, where'd they get those black chicks (hope I'm not being presumptuous calling 'em that) chanting "Shop shop shoo" just at the right time! Hey hey HEY! Wodda recud! Whooops, what's that, I smell smoke, oh it's a synthesizer and what sounds like a carnival barker imitating Phil Rizzuto - holy cow indeed! This record is like a one-way ticket to Coney Island, if not that place where they sent Pinocchio and the other little fools to eat cotton candy till dey come a crop a vomit. Oh my god, you're not gonna believe this, but right at this very moment (well, not while you're reading it, but while I'm writing it; guess we must make allowances for the yawns of Father Time who has seen ALL of 'em come and go, besides which the Meat Loaf circus is probably playing somewhere, in some stucco-armored suburban bedroom way down Encino way even as your eyes scan these codwallopings, in fact a record as great and with such universal appeal as Bat Out Of Hell, why hell I bet it's somewhere lots of places in fact, every second of your waking day, while you're taking a crap, while you're stuck in traffic, while you're wondering if she's gonna get weird when you say "Wanna come up to my place for a while?", while you're whiling away the endless existential hours making love, a physical juxtaposition mit attendant rotational/gravitational differentials which Mr. Loaf himself is not ashamed to say he is totally in favor of, as did Sky Saxon before him - face it, you're never gonna escape from this elpee slab of gorgonzola) Mr. Loaf and his lady are getting ready to, uh, wait a second, click, dit dit dit dit dit bzz, click, brrring, Robinson Amusements incorporated. Hello, is Lisa there? Who is calling, please? Halston. Okay, just hold on a second, sir. Daaa-ling! Lissen Lisa, this is Lester, I have to know whether in the process of describing this Meat Loaf fellow you saddled me with, I can refer to or describe the sights or sounds of implied effluvia of a man and woman having sexual intercourse? Well, Lester, you know Hit Paraders policy on that word! Lisa, please, I dont even use it in my daily speech at Washington Square Park! I just want to know if I can describe a couple of heterosexual adultsuh, well, you know Is it absolutely necessary to the piece? Its on the record. Hmmm. Well, I guess if we can print makeup tips we can get by with this. Just try to curb your Meltzerisms and not say anything bad about people like Clive or Ahmet Ertegun, okay? You know youve been a very bad boy lately, dont shape up and mama gon spank! Yeah, I know, youre right Lisa, its okay, Mr. Loafs on Epic and I forgot the name of their president, okay, yeah, great, thanx, like I said, whew! - yes my friends as I was saying, should you happen to ply up the provender necessary unto purchase of this Meat Loaf album, which is the only one out so far so you cant get too confused, then you and your lady friend too if youre so minded can apprehend the luxuriant privilege of hearing a man and a woman (Mr. Loaf and his Femme de soir, sans doute) MAKING LOVE as all the broken umbrellas are shipped in dark slitlid cattlecars like fallen silos off to cherbourg death camps. Now, heres where the political part comes in: just because Mr. Loaf is in favor of heterosexual intercourse, apparently, all the gangly four-eyes spindly-legged hunchbacked sissifixated rock critics have decided that he stinks! Never mind that American boys and girls, or American citizens with money of whatever wherever, ran out by the hundreds of thousands to buy this mothahumpin album - these self-appointed expert hotshot rock critics have all decided that Mr. Loaf is just a sham if not a scam if not both. Now, I ask you, in the light of that, how could they possibly have the gall to think theyd gleaned enough of your trust to get you to go out and buy the Sex Pistols or whichever foulmouthed hyped-up bit of regurgitated Dylan dog vomit theyre pumping up this week?! Forget it! Robert Christgau made Bat Out Of Hell his Must to Avoid in the Dean of American Consumer Guides the same month he made an album by an English group called Wire Pick Hit. Pretty funny, a dean picking hits in the first place, Clark Kerr abacussing out Screamin Jay Hawkins in the 7 A.M. light. But I heard that album by Wire, that Pick Hit. It sucks. Its the deadest record, possibly, that I have ever been privy to in my life to date. Meanwhile, Im sitting here with Meat Loaf blasting through my headphones, taking the words right out of my mouth, thanks a lot you fat sonofabitch, but no, thats just kvetching between friends, or should I say stars and their functionaries, you all know if you seen say My Man Godfrey what thats about, and is not Meat Loaf a metaphor for the Man Godfrey in us all, I ask you? Though starbrite now, has he not so obviously, as have we not each, been a Godfrey at some point in his poor pathetic life? Yes. This man has been thru the tongs and pangs and backalleyes of hell. Hes PAID HIS DUES BUSTER, so you better just SHUT UP whatever you were gonna say agin him. Like frinstance this other rock critic Billy Altman, who also writes for rock magazines, well he happens not to like the Meat Loaf album any bettern Mr. Xgau, in fact he described it to me thus: A real sucker punch. Meat Loafs just a patsy for Jim Steinman and whos really getting taken with all this lets - fill - the - cars - and - girls - - operatic - Springsteen - gap business is the poor suckers that end up buying a record like that piece of crud. So, you hear that, thats what that guy thinks of you, all you Meat Loaf fans, he thinks youre so stupid he cant even be bothered just calling you jerks, hes gotta condescend to you poor suckers. Christ, and people wonder why rock critics are looked upon by the populace genral as below the gnat. Hey, wait a second! That means he must think the same thing of me, since I like the Meat Loaf album too! All right, thats it - jeeze, how appropriate that just as I am writing this Meat Loaf is singing, All Revved Up With No Place To Go, now why cant these stupid rock critics see that just like Dylan in the Sixties he, Meat Loaf, the Big M, defines for we, the people of the Meat Loaf Nation, exactly what we are thinking and what we should do about it at any given moment. Sure am glad theres always some guy like that around. Meat Loaf is the Dylan of the Seventies, the real peoples populist Rocky type Dylan, not some twit like Elvis Costello. Well, look - youre pissed off, Im pissed off. Are we just gonna let these pea-brains keep on squatting round our headphones, muttering how we really should be listening to the latest Punkenwald monstrosity instead of real music? Hell no! I, as a disaffected, possibly disbarred rock critic, want to give up my media soapbox, let Dave Marsh have it so he can push more Bruce Springsteen albums about the hotrod American adolescence he (Dave) never had. Let me just mellow down easy mong the people, my people, the only people not covered in People magazine, and thats because were real people, the people of Meat Loaf Nation, who may well outnumber you establishment media pigs who dont wanna think there should be anymore hit singles from this album, and as we gather like Rastas smoking our doobies and plotting our revenge, you may hear our battle cry: WERE MAD AS HELL AND WERE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE! Either that or THANK GOD ITS FRIDAY! - --archived at http://www.jimsteinman.com/meatnation.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:28:03 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] iTunes for PC On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 02:34 PM, Michael Mitton wrote: > iTunes makes its debut for the PC today: > > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > > I'll certainly give it a try. I downloaded it at work, and then copied a few of my purchased tracks from home (Mac) to test. After "authorizing" the PC, they worked fine. The interface is pretty much identical. One _really_ nice thing is that it supports Rendezvous, so other iTunes users on your local network (Mac or PC) can share their libraries and playlists. > While I'm writing, I'll mention that eMusic has all four Delgados > albums. I'd start with "Great Eastern" if you're inclined to > orchestral pop, "Domestiques" if you want something more frenetic, > "Peloton" if you want to split the difference. The EPs aren't too shabby, either. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:44:52 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] more EMusic weirdness Here's a new one...we all know that EMusic's search engine is dubious at best, and that titles sometimes don't show up where they're supposed to. By chance, more or less, I stumbled across this release by Snowpony - - - and tried to add it to "My Stash." No luck. I'd forgotten the title, so I looked up "Snowpony" in the artist search...another title comes up, but not this one. Just guessing, I clicked on *that* link from the band's name...and now it shows up. But I still can't stash it. Weird. Guess I'll just have to try to download the damned thing... Jeff Ceci n'est pas une .sig ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:54:52 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: [loud-fans] A post entirely without useful content First: I, too, am Gimli. Whatever that is. I'm not surprised that I ended up with the same result as Gil, who I've started to recognize as a kindred spirit ever since I read that he, like me, could never get onto juries because of excessive crime-victimhood. Maybe that was Gimli's problem, too. From Stewart's review: > > The very first album released on David Geffens legendary Asylum > label, Judee Sill sounds like the musical diary of a hippie Emily > Dickinson I'm dealing with excessive sleep deprivation today, which I'm going to claim is the reason that I read that as "a nipple Emily Dickinson." And it's definitely the reason that I'm now totally obsessed with figuring out various things that phrase could mean. E ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:34:39 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: [loud-fans] Fwd: New Poster Children CD! I know there's at least one other PC fan on this List... I love the title of this album, BTW. --Rog >Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:02:37 -0500 >To: pkids-news@prairienet.org >From: Poster Children >Subject: New Poster Children CD! > >Hi Everyone. It's been a long time since you last heard from Poster >Children but we haven't been idle. We've been working on a new CD entitled >"No more songs about sleep and fire." It has 12 new songs plus an >album-length commentary track and a video for the song Western Springs. >The official release date is January 27th, but for those of you who can't >wait until next year, we've made the CD available for purchase starting >TODAY on our website: http://www.posterchildren.com and at Parasol Mail >Order: http://www.parasol.com. > >Our website has undergone a complete makeover and now has all of the >videos we've made over the years (including our newest one) and if you >haven't heard it yet, check out Radio Zero, our weekly talk show available >anytime, day or night as a RealPlayer stream or download... > >Thanks, >Poster Children >http://www.posterchildren.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:15:41 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] A post entirely without useful content Quoting Elizabeth Brion : > ended up with the same result as Gil, > Gimli's problem, too. Hmm. Gimli is a dwarf who's usually depicted as having a bushy beard, as well as lots of thick, long hair. And you say Gil came up with Gimli, of all people? ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country :: will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:15:22 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: [loud-fans] A post entirely without useful content On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:15 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Hmm. Gimli is a dwarf who's usually depicted as having a bushy beard, > as well as lots of thick, long hair. > > And you say Gil came up with Gimli, of all people? And... what? It doesn't surprise you in the *least* that I'm a bushy-bearded dwarf? ;-) Elizabeth, sans facial hair and actually sort of on the tall side ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:13:22 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] iTunes for PC At Thursday 10/16/2003 11:34 AM -0700, Michael Mitton wrote: >iTunes makes its debut for the PC today: > >http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > >I'll certainly give it a try. I downloaded and installed iTunes for Windows on my home PC. Haven't bought/downloaded anything from the Music Store yet, but I have been trying out the app/interface with my existing MP3 library and the iPod. Looks pretty good and I'll probably switch to it. If I'm feeling insane, I may even re-rip my CDs into AAC. But here's my question: Since I installed iTunes, MusicMatch seems to no longer recognize the connected iPod - only iTunes does. Say I still wanted to use MusicMatch for awhile before switching to iTunes... is there some way to do that without uninstalling iTunes? Anyone know? Is there some way for both to co-exist on the PC and to use either one to update the iPod? Thx. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:27:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: [loud-fans] Fwd: Portraits with Stevie! Gimli thinks this is cooler than the Halloween costumes. gil Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: ggilray@yahoo.com via 216.136.131.237; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from 216.136.131.233 (HELO web11403.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.131.233) by mta110.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:30 -0700 Received: from [64.174.36.22] by web11403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:29 PDT Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Stacey A. Malone" Subject: Fwd: Portraits with Stevie! To: "Gil R." , "Robert T." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 533 - --- debra marek wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: debra marek > Subject: Fwd: Portraits with Stevie! > To: debmarek@yahoo.com > > Ha! This is tooooooo good........ > > http://www.johannas-art.com/Portraits.htm > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! 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