From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #253 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, August 29 2003 Volume 03 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Re: I, Alternate Juror.....Pt. 2. (some Scott) [Robert Toren] Re: [loud-fans] I, Alternate Juror.....Pt. 2. [dmw ] [loud-fans] Fw: update (for SF Bay Aryans) [Steve Holtebeck Subject: [loud-fans] Re: I, Alternate Juror.....Pt. 2. (some Scott) : >> Speaking of fair trials, I realized that I will >> probably never be able to put aside any prejudices, >> if I should sit on another jury. I side with the >> VICTIM. [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] > I'm sure if you got accused of a crime on the > basis of a profile (bald guy infested with deer > ticks), you'd understand ;) :-) hmp! well-told story, gil_ thanks scott's songs make reference to good and bad laws_ what about guilt and innocence? for anyone who missed it the first time round http://www.angrylambie.com/images/tick%20infested%20deer.jpg RT ===== http://www.angrylambie.com "Monotheistic religion has always brought out the best in us humans; thank you so much for the idea of a vengeful supernatural entity who rewards people in the afterlife! That shit makes a lot of sense!" http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war25.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:54:30 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I, Alternate Juror.....Pt. 2. On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gil Ray wrote: > Speaking of fair trials, I realized that I will > probably never be able to put aside any prejudices, if > I should sit on another jury. I side with the VICTIM. > Plain and simple. I will be damn sure to let the judge > and lawyers know this fact next time. I would be > prejudiced, but I would also be right. Don't need me > on a jury, I guess...... my last nearly-on-a-trial situation (i was on a panel, but not asked to serve) was a guy accused of selling heroin at a middle school. he showed up in court, honest to good, wearing a track suit and sunglasses, looking about as much like your cliche image of a lower echelon pusher as he could possibly manage. i rilly had to think when the judge asked if we could be fair and impartial. i mean, yeah, i guess it *could* have been a frame-up...theoretically. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:54:10 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: [loud-fans] Fw: update (for SF Bay Aryans) Michael M. and a few others were asking if Yuji Oniki ever played in the SF Bay Area shows. Since this is the last chance to see him play locally for awhile, I thought I'd forward this along. - -Steve - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: update From: Yuji Oniki I am sending this announcement out to let you know that in less than a week I'll be playing my last Bay area show (until I come back on tour or some other occasion). Yes, I'm moving way out east (Woodstock New York) so I won't be playing around here anymore. I must admit it's been while since I've played live in the area. So whahave I been up to? I'm close to finishing my next record and as Beach Boy Brian sez God only knows when it will come out. I am excited about it and hope that you (still) are a year or two from now. On thursday I will be playing before my friends Mark and the Moore Bros. I am going on first, no later than 9:30 PM (honest) and will play a special hour long set (if my vocal chords can last) so I'll be taking requests (covers, oldies, karaoke, you name it). I'll be hanging out at the bar from around 8 PM for those who want to hang out before the show. Best, Yuji Oniki Thursday, August 28 Starry Plough 9 PM Yuji Oniki w/Mark Hanley Moore Bros. 3101 Shattuck Ave, Berkeley (510)841-2082 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:11:17 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] another one of them damned lists to start arguments over I am an indie-rock critic whore: I own 44 of the listed 60 albums (including the one that isn't due in stores for two more weeks), and alternate albums (asterisk) by all but 7 of them (many of whom I do own tracks by - double asterisk). Anyway, this is _Magnet_'s judgment of the "Top 60 Albums, 1993-2003." Longtime readers may be stunned, shocked, amazed, and astonished to discover that one has to go all the way down to the No. 3 slot to find a Guided by Voices album. They *claim* that the list isn't "up for public debate" or "subject to the laws of fairness" (but it does seem subject to the law of one album per artist) - but ha! what do they know? 60. Shins - Oh, Inverted World (bugs me - should be "O" should it not? makes better sense that way anyhow...) 59. Grifters - Crappin' You Negative (someone tell Sue T.!) 58. Shellac - At Action Park 57. New Pornographers - Electric Version (paramedics have been dispatched to glenn's house) 56. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Orange* 55. Pernice Brothers - Overcome by Happiness 54. Whiskeytown - Strangers Almanac 53. Wrens - The Meadowlands (Absolutely Kosher sez it's due out 9/9 - advance "special edition" has been out for months though) 52. Helium - The Magic City (go Mitch!) 51. Pulp - Different Class 50. Girls Against Boys - Venus Luxure No. 1 Baby 49. Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart 48. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet 47. Urge Overkill - Saturation 46. Idlewild - 100 Broken Windows (glenn's feeling better now...) 45. Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen 44. Air - The Virgin Suicides** 43. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love 42. Unwound - Repetition* 41. Bright Eyes - Letting Off the Happiness 40. Dandy Warhols - Thirteen Tales from Urban Bohemia 39. Polvo - Exploded Drawing 38. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F#A#[infinity]* 37. Sugar - File Under: Easy Listening 36. Beta Band - The Three EPs** 35. Fugazi - In on the Killtaker 34. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights 33. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream 32. Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary 31. Built to Spill - Perfect from Now On* 30. Queens of the Stone Age s/t (not even sure I have a track by these guys...Jenny G.'s gonna kill me!) 29. Spoon - A Series of Sneaks 28. Steve Earle - Transcendental Blues* 27. Beck - Mutations 26. Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 25. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing...** 24. White Stripes - White Blood Cells** 23. Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin 22. Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs 21. Moby - Play* (and this is the *only* title on the list I have zero interest in owning) 20. R.E.M. - New Adventures in Hi-Fi (Miles sighs contentedly) 19. Strokes - Is This It 18. Dirty Three - Horse Stories** 17. Weezer - Pinkerton 16. Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs 15. Ween - White Pepper** 14. Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump 13. Calexico - The Black Light 12. Elliott Smith - XO 11. Wilco - Summerteeth 10. Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die 9. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain 8. Verve - Urban Hymns* 7. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One 6. Breeders - Last Splash 5. Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister 4. Radiohead - OK Computer 3. Guided by Voices - Alien Lanes 2. Nirvana - In Utero 1. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea The rag also has an obscurantists' list: Superconductor - Hit Songs for Girls Cardinal - s/t Chokebore - Anything Near Water (who?) Bevis Frond - Son of Walter* Licorice Roots - Melodeon (who??) Alastair Galbraith - Mirrorwork** My Morning Jacket - Tennessee Fire* Comas - A Def Needle in Tomorrow Bigger Lovers - How I Learned to Stop Worrying** (isn't this a Larry Tucker fave?) Comet Gain - Realistes (do I have a comp track by them? mebbe...) ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #253 *******************************