From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #246 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, August 22 2003 Volume 03 : Number 246 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Re: Painting [rlewis@nethere.com (Russ Lewis)] [loud-fans] Fwd: Recall Island [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] fountains [Max Germer ] [loud-fans] we interrupt this program... (ns) [Sarah Gordon ] Re: [loud-fans] Bubba Ho-Tep ["G. Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] 'How to find you/How to find you/Maybe by your singing...' ["G. Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] GbV, Springsteen [John Cooper ] RE: [loud-fans] Springsteen question (a/k/a paging Miles...) [Jeffrey wit] [loud-fans] music (nstuvwxyz) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] music (nstuvwxyz) [Jenny Grover > Actually by a photograph in a show at the Getty Museum in L.A. When they used to have these photo exhibits there, they would kick off the show with a concert at the Getty featuring Southern Californian songwriters who had each been personally invited to write and perform a song about a particular piece in the show. Seems to me "Bijou" was based on a photo by Weegee, but I could be wrong. My pal Cindy Lee Berryhill, who participated in one of these shindigs, told me that the "curator" of the musical portion was none other than Peter Case, I believe. Seen on a bumper sticker: SEX AND DRUGS AND FLATT AND SCRUGGS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:16:01 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] Fwd: Recall Island For the Californians in particular... - ----- Forwarded message from Susan Lowry http://www.markfiore.com/animation/island.html - ----- End forwarded message ----- Jeff Ceci n'est pas une .sig ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:24:01 -0700 From: Max Germer Subject: [loud-fans] fountains I think Chris wrote: - - Valley Winter Song (the line about 'meet me at the Baystate tonight' refers to a legendary, sadly now-defunct, club in town). - - Supercollider - - No Better Place - - Hung Up On You (old, pre-Fountains song. Was a staple of the Gay Potatoes as well) - - Yours And Mine Don't quote me. Max >> The latter >> may also feature Chris Collingwood. > > Howdy, Max. Do you Northampton denizens have any inside tips on which > Fountains of Wayne songs are written by Collingwood and which by > Schlesinger, or whether they collaborate? I don't have an easy time > distinguishing. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Gordon Subject: [loud-fans] we interrupt this program... (ns) ...to send warm birthday wishes to Mr. Steve Holtebeck, one of the kindest, most generous loud-fans around. - -Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:33:07 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] GbV and ana Folks, if you've pick up the new GbV album EARTHQUAKE GLUE, you may note that the back cover photo is by ana morales. I think she also contributed another pic for the vinyl single. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:55:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "G. Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bubba Ho-Tep > Looks as if it hasn't yet found a distributor. Hopefully, it won't take > as long as has BUBBA-HOTEP, the Bruce Campbell/Ossie Davis movie. Bruce Campbell *is* Elvis Presley. Ossie Davis *is* John F. Kennedy. A must-see summer flick. Is it coming to your town? Check (back) here: http://www.bubbahotep.com/news/ Only a couple of months since it played the Seattle Film Festival though...not really that long to wait... Andy Ailing Zevon Gives Lesson With His Exit Thu Aug 21, 7:54 AM ET By DAVID BAUDER, Associated Press Writer NEW YORK - Terminally ill with cancer, Warren Zevon (news) told producer Jorge Calderon that he wanted to record Bob Dylan (news)'s "Knockin' on Heaven's Door." The tale of a doomed gunslinger reaches a new emotional level coming from the voice of a man who's really dying. The choice also  let's be frank  reflects the 56-year-old singer's well-known twisted sense of humor. Given a death sentence by doctors, Zevon hasn't retreated. He wrote and recorded a final album at a furious pace and opened his life to VH1 cameras for an intimate diary. The VH1 special premieres 10 p.m. EDT Sunday, then "The Wind" CD comes out Tuesday. And Aug. 28 marks exactly one year since Zevon was told he had inoperable lung cancer and three months to live. Jordan Zevon, Warren's 34-year-old son, was happy the prognosis proved incorrect and his father was around for the birth of twin grandchildren, but he doesn't hide his disgust at the doctors. "Human beings have no right to tell other human beings how long they have to live unless they have some kind of firearm in their hands," he said. "Thank God he didn't take it and use it as an excuse to throw everything away and give up." After initially agreeing to answer some e-mailed questions, Warren Zevon was too sick to complete them, a publicist said. The musician who's known for "Werewolves of London" and "Excitable Boy" has been spending time with his family and watching a lot of television. Some days he's well enough to talk to friends, some days not. Zevon set short-term goals to help him through the year  big ones like seeing his grandchildren or finishing his album and small ones like a particular movie release, those close to him say. A week before his diagnosis, Zevon had called Calderon and said he wanted to make another disc. The two men have been best friends since their first meeting in 1972, when a mutual friend asked Calderon for a ride to bail Zevon out of the drunk tank. "The question was, `Do you still want to do that or do you want to go to Mexico and lie on a beach and forget about all that,'" Calderon said. "He was going through that in his mind, what to do with such a shocking piece of news. Who knows how to handle that? "He called back and said, `I still want to do this.'" Zevon, who titled one best-of compilation "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" and put a picture of a skeleton smoking a pipe on another, talks on VH1 about how he's always been interested in writing about death and dying. Circumstances gave him a perspective few, if any, active artists have shared. His new music is poignant and emotionally direct. "Keep Me in Your Heart," the first song written after his diagnosis, is the one to address Zevon's condition most directly, beginning the lyric: "Shadows are falling and I'm running out of breath." After playing on the song, veteran session drummer Jim Keltner told Calderon it was only the second time he'd been moved to tears in a recording session. The first one was on Dylan's original version of "Knockin' on Heaven's Door." "The album was full of all of those moments," he said. On "El Amor De Mi Vida," Zevon writes specifically for a former girlfriend, telling her  as the title says  that she was the love of his life and he still regrets letting her get away. Subsequent to recording the song, Zevon managed to get in touch with the woman for the first time in many years, Calderon said. She had moved away, married and was raising a family. The album's hardly a one-note tearjerker, however. Bruce Springsteen (news) adds biting guitar and vocals to Zevon's cranky look at the world, "Disorder in the House." "It's the home of the brave and the land of the free," Zevon sings. "Where the less you know the better off you'll be." Sardonic humor sneaks in, too. "I'm looking for a woman with low self-esteem," he sings, "to lay me out and ease my worried mind, while I'm winding down my dirty life and times." "We'd write a song and record it the next day and before we could sit around and say, `this is great,' we were writing the next one," Calderon said. "We didn't have much time to think and analyze and change things around, which gives this album a real honesty and immediacy." The biggest hurdle was Zevon's flagging energy. "It's not that his voice would go away," Calderon said. "It was like, `Get him while he's rested and don't work him to hard.'" All sorts of famous friends showed up. Springsteen chartered a plane between concert dates to make a session. Tom Petty (news), Emmylou Harris (news), Dwight Yoakam (news), John Waite (news) and Eagles Don Henley (news) and Timothy B. Schmidt appeared. One song, "Prison Grove," features guitarists Ry Cooder (news) and David Lindley, with back-up vocals from Springsteen, Jackson Browne (news), Billy Bob Thornton (news) and T Bone Burnett. Jordan Zevon, who runs his own music equipment company, believes the creative energy helped lengthen his father's life. The VH1 cameras record these sessions, as well as several personal moments. At one point, Warren Zevon rails against fans who wrote on a Web site that he was being heroic in not seeking treatment for his cancer: "I think it's a sin to not want to live." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:47:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "G. Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 'How to find you/How to find you/Maybe by your singing...' >> The record I seek is called THE NEWEST SOUND AROUND, by Ran Blake and > > The newest sound around is a sound that's made by worms! Yeah I figured Tony Burrello would come into it somehow. Can you believe he used to play calliope from Leona Anderson, Andy . BiLingualCartoons (<==2-lineFormat). .......................... S-A-D==> www.TutorU.com/Dyslexia.htm LeapPad (good, but could be much better): www.TutorU.com/Bale-Of-Hay.htm FirstTime Visitors, Read-Aloud-to-Know:www.TutorU.com/SpeechTest.htm . o Then: www.TutorU.com/NurseryRhymes.htm (Read-Aloud-to-Practice) NextTime Visitors, Study-Silently-to-Learn:www.TutorU.com/TUET.htm www.TutorU.com/ThinkAboutIt.htm ( How .does.your.brain. work.?)<==Try FuzzyLogic TYPEable Phonemic-English: www.TutorU.com/Rosetta-Stone4.htm . [--from http://www.tutoru.com/ ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:16:07 -0300 From: "John F Butland" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Springsteen question (a/k/a paging Miles...) Dunno where Miles is, but I'll wade on in. I haven't seen any definitive documentation on the issue, but suspect that it's mainly because the song is a Bo Diddleyesque stomp that wouldn't really need much in the way of panning or separation. The mono-icity allows it to be that much more primal - check out the live 78 version that used either "Mona" or "Not Fade Away," along with plenty of jungle noises, as an extended intro and you'll see what I mean. What always amazed me about BTR (the LP) was that it was so crammed with hooks and yet doesn't contain what would normally be described as a chorus, anywhere on the LP. Best, JFB - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Sent: August 21, 2003 3:09 AM To: Account 7870 Subject: [loud-fans] Springsteen question (a/k/a paging Miles...) So I was listening to _Born to Run_ the other day, putting "She's the One" on a mix CD - and because I was listening in headphones, I remembered that, for some reason, the track's nearly in mono. Why, in 1975 or whatever, was that? Was this a sort of Spectoresque "Back to Mono" thing (which would have better suited one of the more Spectoresque tracks on the album), or some necessary accident of fouled-up recording, or what? Seems like there must be a story there... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:38:55 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: [loud-fans] GbV, Springsteen Larry Tucker wrote: > Folks, if you've pick up the new GbV album EARTHQUAKE GLUE, you may note > that the back cover photo is by ana morales. I think she also > contributed another pic for the vinyl single. And if anyone is interested, the back cover of EARTHQUAKE GLUE is online at http://www.gbv.com/gifs/backcover.jpg GbV is playing a free show tonight at the SF Amoeba. They kicked off their tour last night at Bimbo's, and played for a long time! The show started at 8pm with one opening act (Tommy Keene, who rocked!) and I needed to skip away before the encore to make the BART train before midnight. I thought Springsteen was the master of the three hour show! John F. Butland (who I think is celebrating HIS birthday today) wrote (Re: "She's The One") > The mono-icity allows it to be that much > more primal - check out the live 78 version that used either "Mona" or > "Not Fade Away," along with plenty of jungle noises, as an extended > intro and you'll see what I mean. In case anyone is confused (like I was), that's the live version recorded in 1978, not a live 78*rpm* version. A live 78 of Bruce doing "She's The One" (or any other song) would be quite collectible though! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:55:51 -0700 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] GbV, Springsteen > From: Steve Holtebeck > > A live 78 of Bruce doing "She's The One" (or any other song) would be > quite collectible though! Some of Bruce's songs sound quite good at 78 rpm, especially after you get used to the accelerated beat, and of course the chipmunk vocals. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:49:02 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Springsteen question (a/k/a paging Miles...) Quoting John F Butland : > Dunno where Miles is, but I'll wade on in. I haven't seen any definitive > documentation on the issue, but suspect that it's mainly because the > song is a Bo Diddleyesque stomp that wouldn't really need much in the > way of panning or separation. The mono-icity allows it to be that much > more primal - Yeah, sorta...but it also means that certain details - there are a couple of really cool-sounding guitars in there - are a lot harder to hear. I cheated: when I put it on that mix CD, I added a millisecond echo in the right channel, effectively stereoizing it. I like it that way. > What always amazed me about BTR (the LP) was that it was so crammed with > hooks and yet doesn't contain what would normally be described as a > chorus, anywhere on the LP. Wow - except for "Tenth Avenue Freezeout" (I'd argue the repeated title line is the chorus), you're right. I'd never really thought to look at the structure of those songs, but they really are rather odd little ducks in that way. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ :: Terrorism is the war of the poor. :: War is the terrorism of the rich. :: --Peter Ustinov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:29:04 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] music (nstuvwxyz) I'd heard lots of good things about it but never seen it in stores, but I finally ordered a copy of Nate Ruth's _Whatever It Meant_, and I'd recommend it pretty highly. To employ the old familiar formula (no, not "fuck this and fuck that"), it's rather as if Kevin Shields time-traveled from 1992 or so (when he was supposedly working on a jungle-friendly new MBV sound) back to 1970 and collaborated with Emitt Rhodes: along with those Shieldian sonic surfaces, we have several piano-based compositions whose pop sparkle is flash-frozen in sheets of glacial guitar scree. Okay, I'm kinda tired so my metaphor-generating feature isn't working well. It sounds good - you'll like it (I'm thinking esp. if you're Jon Gabriel - Jon, are you still around here?). It seems Ruth's got a new one coming out too. Also: anyone heard the new Consonant yet? ..Jeff, with bonus obscure Shriekback reference J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: "am I being self-referential?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:55:03 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] music (nstuvwxyz) Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Also: anyone heard the new Consonant yet? > Fenway Recordings' website has it up in its entirety. www.fenwayrecordings.com and follow the links. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #246 *******************************