From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #236 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, August 12 2003 Volume 03 : Number 236 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] soy crisps (ns) [Chris Prew ] [loud-fans] Embrace the Ambiguity ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: [loud-fans] Publication [Michael Mitton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:59:46 -0500 From: Chris Prew Subject: Re: [loud-fans] soy crisps (ns) They also have an apple cinnamon version which makes a great low-guilt snack for your little ones. My 2 yr old daughter loves em. They are kind of like baked rice cakes, except they are soy. Chris Who rented "Ginger Snaps" last night. Much funnier (and bloodier) than I thought it'd be. Too bad they didn't have a bigger FX budget. On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 08:26 PM, dana-boy@juno.com wrote: > You know, I just can't help saying this. Soy Crisps (Gen Soy brand, > barbecue flavor) are possibly the greatest snack food ever invented. I > just can't find anything *wrong* with them. Even if you eat the whole > bag (3.5oz, which is enough to stave off most snack cravings, and trust > me, I'm the kind of person who eats a pint of Ben & Jerries on a > regular > basis) you get just 9% of your daily fat (0% saturated) and 21% of your > sodium. Meanwhile you get 42% of your daily protein and 24% of your > fiber. Also, you'll eat 24% of your daily calcium. They're not fried, > so I'm assuming that they lack that new evil poison that's in potato > chips, etc. And they taste really, really good: not at all dry and > yucky like most baked potato chips. Seriously, they kick major ass. > No > weird ingredients or anything either. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:37:02 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] Embrace the Ambiguity JeFFrey: >> One of the problems is the ambiguity: does the name refer to muses >>that are throwing or muses being thrown? That wouldn't be a problem >>if either meaning made any sense! Ah, but I like that (in their case) and I think that ambiguity was one of the reasons that gerund/noun construction became so popular. It's certainly a saving grace for Smashing Pumpkins, although I find that to be a crap name either way. Flogging Molly is pretty clearly a transitive action (as are most of the g/n band names and almost all the g/n movie and book titles.) Tripping Daisy bugs me as a name for the reasons you cite above, but I think it largely depends on how compelling your gerund and your noun are, and both "tripping" and "daisy" seem hippy-dippy to me, so the combo is deadly. Plus, I belatedly nominate this in the "Worst Album Cover Ever" thread: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=MISS70306161847&sql=A7z4tk6sxqk rg I dunno why I find it so off-putting, but I do... I sort of shudder even seeing the spine in the used bin. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:18:10 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: [loud-fans] Publication Look at what just crossed my desk: Kruse, Holly. Site and sound : understanding independent music scenes / Holly Kruse. - New York ; Frankfurt : Lang, 2002. 188 p. ; 23 cm. - (Music meanings ; v. 1). Switzerland. - English. Congratulations (belated though they are)... Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley Thou crownest the year with thy goodness. The Holy Bible (The Old Testament): _The Book of Psalms_ 65:11 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:54:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Publication > Kruse, Holly. > Site and sound : understanding independent music scenes / Holly Kruse. - And because I don't think Holly will do it, I will: http://www.escribe.com/music/loudfans/m34731.html - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 01:00:09 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: [loud-fans] Swap review Last month, W. David Barnes sent me a fine swap disc modestly titled "Loud Fan Swap CD for July for Stewart." Which included: (songs I'm familiar with marked *) *River Euphrates -- The Pixies Frankly, the Pixies have never meant nearly as much to me as they do to so many others, but I do like them a lot in small doses. It's just that over the course of a full album, it's clear that Mr. Thompson's manufactured tics get kind of tiresome and annoying. Good opening track, though. KC Accidental -- Broken Social Scene I've never heard of these guys, but I like it: good old-fashioned post-rock that sounds kind of like early King Crimson jacked on espresso. Anything Anything -- Masters of the Hemisphere This must be from the MotH album I don't have. Dunno what it is, because they sound like any number of other bands I don't really care about that much, but I really like these guys. Why I Cry -- All Time Quarterback I love this sort of thing, although again it's best in small doses. A kind of drony melody, whiny vocals, kind of homemade-feeling. Who are they...or, I'm guessing, who is he? *Touch the Water -- Apples in Stereo A lot of people didn't rate it, but I really liked VELOCITY OF SOUND, which I thought was an entirely reasonable progression of the Apples' sound that particularly makes a lot of sense if you listen to it in combo with SCIENCE FAIRE. Dying To Hit That Note -- Beezewax Pleasant enough, but kind of faceless. Liar -- Ivory Library Ditto, I'm afraid. An Awful Mess -- The Softies I went mad for the Softies sometime in 1996 or so, bought everything they'd done up to that point, listened obsessively to it all for a couple of weeks and haven't felt the need to pick up anything they've done since. This sounds like they've continued in exactly that vein, which is probably good. I should see what else they've done. *Make It Go Away -- Barbara Manning I haven't heard this album in ages, and I'd forgotten how great most of it is! I particularly like this song. Karaoke Echo Number 1 -- Elsewhere This is oddly reminiscent of mid-period Stereolab (say, '96-'99) -- I say "oddly" because it doesn't actually *sound* like Stereolab at all. I think it's the way the song just kind of wafts around one melodic theme for about six and a half minutes. I Feel the Rain Fall -- Red House Painters What's odd is that the last song sounds a hell of a lot more like what I know of Red House Painters than this one does. Mark's still got his usual "I just drank a whole bottle of NyQuil" vocals, but the tune itself is downright peppy! For the Wars -- Clinic I always get these guys mixed up with the Clientele. Which are the ones who perform in scrubs and masks? Information Travels Faster -- Death Cab For Cutie I'm all for bands naming themselves after Bonzos songs, but I still haven't heard anything by these guys that really makes me feel they've earned the right. This comes closer, though -- I like the piano part a lot. If You Want Blood -- Mark Kozolek Yes, now this is more what I think of as Red House Painters, only minus the reverb. *Farm Revisited -- The Hang Ups You'll see just about all of the Hang-Ups' albums in the dollar bins: I recommend taking a flyer on them if you see one. Clean Out -- Mates of State Goes beyond minimal into downright skeletal, but not bad at all. Never heard of 'em. Never Felt Better -- No. 2 Eh. Offline PK -- Pinback I would like this a lot more if there was a different (and less yelpy) singer. All Hands on the Bad One -- Sleater-Kinney Doesn't change my impression of S-K, which remains steadfastly "Eh." The Old Gold Shoe -- Lambchop I don't know why I've never bought a Lambchop album, because I invariably find their songs utterly charming, and this is probably my favorite so far. The orchestral arrangment is simply amazing. Overall, a most enjoyable disc! Thanks for the disc, David! S ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #236 *******************************