From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #219 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, July 27 2003 Volume 03 : Number 219 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios ["David Seldin" ] [loud-fans] linda agains (ns) [dana-boy@juno.com] Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffre] Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] Phair to Middlin' [Phil Fleming ] [loud-fans] playing catch-up... [Phil Fleming ] [loud-fans] clone that horse, kill it again, and whip it MORE! [dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios As someone else said, the guy is Christopher O'Reilly. Among other things, he hosts his own radio show showcasing young classical musicians (I do mean young - 10-18 years old), called "From the Top". It's often recorded here in Boston at the lovely Jordan Hall. I've frequently been in the audience with my family. He's a sweet, engaging guy, and the show is quite well done. He's a major Radiohead fan and, although I take his Rock credentials with a big grain of salt, I am very curious to hear his interpretations, and I expect they will be quite well done. But his asthetic is definitely more classical than rock... David p.s. Did anyone find it surprising that it was JRT who directly linked "getting laid" to "the gullability of girls"? Not me. No wonder there's so few women on this list... (the last part is a joke...) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Mitton" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios > On Radiohead, I heard on NPR a man (whose name has slipped my mind) who's > released a CD of Radiohead songs that he's transcribed to piano. This > type of thing usually feels like a gimmick to me, but the samples they > played on NPR were just lovely. Perhaps because piano is the only > instrument I have any competence with, the piano versions seemed to reveal > a lot of complexity in the songs that gets hidden (for me) by the > instrumentation. Anyway, anyone heard the whole album? > > --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:04:03 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios In a message dated 7/26/03 4:04:55 AM, david.seldin@french.toast.net writes: << Did anyone find it surprising that it was JRT who directly linked "getting laid" to "the gullability of girls"? Not me. No wonder there's so few women on this list... (the last part is a joke...) >> And I'm certainly not surprised to see someone linking a knowledge of where the girls are to misogyny. Meanwhile, the guys keep gathering at the power-pop shows, where the longing gives way to the resentment that fuels the misogyny of the power-pop scene. But, of course, I'm not talking about a list like this, where guys actually meet their mates through the Internet. We all know those kind of men are also really good at relating to females in normal social forums. Right? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:17:43 -0400 From: Janet Ingraham Dwyer Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios At 10:04 AM 7/26/2003 EDT, JRT wrote: >... a list like this, >where guys actually meet their mates through the Internet. We all know those >kind of men are also really good at relating to females in normal social >forums. Right? Right. Janet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:20:38 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] Bear-baiting for fun and profit On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 JRT456@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/26/03 4:04:55 AM, david.seldin@french.toast.net writes: > > << Did anyone find it surprising that it was JRT who directly linked > > "getting laid" to "the gullability of girls"? Not me. No wonder there's so > > few women on this list... (the last part is a joke...) >> > > And I'm certainly not surprised to see someone linking a knowledge of where > the girls are to misogyny. Meanwhile, the guys keep gathering at the power-pop Yeah, but yer being deliberately misleading, thereby ensuring that the cycle of unattainability/despearate longing/formulaic pop crap carpping and/or violence remains unshattered. the gullibility of natalie merchant fans may be arguable, but any lad with the gumption to shove a safety pin through any random body part will fare much better at a hole show. (Conveniently, the band is shortly to tour.) > where guys actually meet their mates through the Internet. We all know those > kind of men are also really good at relating to females in normal social > forums. Right? Of course, but the roller-coaster thrills of dating psychotic models (and/or wannabes) eventually palled. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:13:46 -0400 From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] linda agains (ns) Looks like Linda Perhacs' album "Parallelograms" has been re-reissued. This time, they tracked down a copy of the master tape, and there are bonus tracks (mostly demos). The original reissue was mastered from vinyl. Aquarius has the new one. Sort of along those lines, eMusic has a bunch of Claire Hamill's stuff, that people may have missed amongst that load of Voiceprint stuff that came in all at once. The album to get is "October," but "Stage Door Johnnies" has some charms. Her first album has a neat version of "Urge For Going" but that's about it. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:15:54 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios Quoting JRT456@aol.com: > where guys actually meet their mates through the Internet. So the women were just gullibly sitting at their computers, when these socially inept men swept in and seduced them through their witty e-mails? Are you sure there wasn't an eBay auction involved? ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:15:47 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fountains of Nairobi Lawn Trios At Saturday 7/26/2003 10:04 AM -0400, JRT456@aol.com wrote: >But, of course, I'm not talking about a list like this, >where guys actually meet their mates through the Internet. We all know those >kind of men are also really good at relating to females in normal social >forums. Right? Depends on whether you consider the Gorean community as strictly an Internet phenomenon or not. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:31:07 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] linda agains (ns) On Saturday, July 26, 2003, at 11:13 AM, dana-boy@juno.com wrote: > Sort of along those lines, eMusic has a bunch of Claire Hamill's stuff, > that people may have missed amongst that load of Voiceprint stuff that > came in all at once. The album to get is "October," but "Stage Door > Johnnies" has some charms. Her first album has a neat version of "Urge > For Going" but that's about it. I notice that Emusic is plugging Thelonius Monk's _Brilliant Corners_ today, which is a particularly good idea. Even if you're not a jazz person, try "Pannonica", which is really quite beautiful. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phair to Middlin' The Matrix is only doing remixes for Bowie's new record. I believe I read about that in Billboard. Phil F. NP: Caesars _39 Minutes Of Bliss (In An Otherwise Meaningless World) - --- Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > > Isn't Bowie recording with the Matrix now? He's, > um, older than Liz Phair. > > And he's done similar things before. > > True - but he hasn't (I don't think) attempted to > make himself look like > one of the guys in 'N Sync as well...(please tell me > if I'm wrong, so I > can state that Bowie's ridiculous for doing so as > well). > > > -Rex, second attempt at first post... > > And it succeeded! > > --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > J e f f r e y N o r m a n > The Architectural Dance Society > www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html > ::As long as I don't sleep, he decided, I won't > shave. > ::That must mean...as soon as I fall asleep, I'll > start shaving! > __Thomas Pynchon, VINELAND__ > > np: one of the Rhino _DIY_ series __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: [loud-fans] playing catch-up... Just answering some questions and offering my opinions about a week after the topic died (or maybe didn't)... Sheryl Crow is older than Liz Phair. Crow started her 'sexy' image makeover after she turned 40... I guess it could be construed as a midlife crisis thing. As far as the Liz Phair record goes.. to me, it sounds like one of those commercial pop albums where the artist knows it's supposed to be a commercial pop album, yet is taking it with a grain of salt in almost every note. I can't help but think she's making inside jokes throughout the entire record. Almost a subtle parody effect. Usage of the word 'fuck' in something that was supposed to be a meticulously crafted radio hit (Why Can't I) set that off for me... It's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Bowie and Pop... I'm one of those who thought they created some of their best music in the last 20 years. After Bowie's 'sell-out' period, his material is quite good. But then again, I still love the first Tin Machine record, so what do I know? And it looks like I'm the only one who thought BEAT EM UP was Iggy's best record since AMERICAN CAESAR. That record pretty much reflected how I felt at the time it came out. I won't go on about this one. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] clone that horse, kill it again, and whip it MORE! On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Phil Fleming wrote: > Bowie and Pop... I'm one of those who thought they > created some of their best music in the last 20 years. > After Bowie's 'sell-out' period, his material is quite > good. But then again, I still love the first Tin > Machine record, so what do I know? just for the sake of clarity, since i think i was unduly vague. when i described some recent bowie efforts as "reprehensible" according to whatever standard was being applied (or whatever the hell i said) i wasn't referring to the merit of the records. iirc even "let's dance" had a couple of songs i liked on it. what i was referring to was the degree to which those records had trendy producers and/or guest artsts and might look like "crass sell outs." - -- d. np something by claire hamill ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #219 *******************************