From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #209 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, July 19 2003 Volume 03 : Number 209 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Funny (ns) [Dana Paoli ] [loud-fans] another Mitch article ["Larry Tucker" ] [loud-fans] How to keep track... [Dana Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it [Dave Walker ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:18:20 GMT From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Funny (ns) So this week Liz Phair is ranked at #59 on the Billboard list, right behind Avril Lavigne (on the charts for 58 weeks). I can't help but think that there's a message being sent. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:56:37 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] another Mitch article Another nice article on Mitch Easter in today's Winston-Salem Journal. http://tinyurl.com/hc4w Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:15:51 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] another Mitch article These articles may mention it, but the Cypress/Afoot reissue became available at local retailers this week, as opposed to only through the Collector's Choice website. Rev-Ola has also put out a fine-sounding 22-track collection of demos from The Quick (most of the Mercury album, plus the Elektra tapes), which I'd like to think matters to some people out there. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:18:54 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] quick >Rev-Ola has also put out a fine-sounding 22-track collection of demos from >The Quick (most of the Mercury album, plus the Elektra tapes), which I'd >like to >think matters to some people out there. These are demos from the first album, not the album itself. But, yes, this matters to me! The songs from the 10" fan club EP, the item that's been at the top of my want list for twenty years, has finally been reissued! "You Yeah You" and "Pretty Please me" are the absolute pinnacle of punk-era power pop. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:29:38 GMT From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] How to keep track... ...of ex-members of this list: just keep an eye on eBay auctions of ALRN. Currently, a name from the past has the high bid. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:04:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Dave Walker wrote: > Likewise, most of the rest of the His Name is Alive catalog is up, too. > If you grab only one, the _Ft. Lake_ album is really good, genre-defying > stuff. I just had myself a little HNIA retrospective (having only previously heard Mouth By Mouth and Stars On ESP, plus one depressing listen to Someday My Blues Will Cover The Earth) and I am now quite impressed. I guess in the end I'd recommend every other album: Livonia yes, Home no, Mouth yes, Stars no, Ft. Lake yes, Someday noooooo, Last Night yes. Not to say there's nothing good on the even-numbered ones. In particular, it was a nice surprise that Last Night, which I'd heard was mostly leftovers from Someday My Blues, was so good. I mean, it does sound a lot like its predecessor, except not boring. They obviously learned something from Ida (whose "Maybelle" is covered on Last Night). a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:16:31 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it Quoting Aaron Mandel : > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Dave Walker wrote: > > I just had myself a little HNIA retrospective (having only previously > heard Mouth By Mouth and Stars On ESP, plus one depressing listen to > Someday My Blues Will Cover The Earth) and I am now quite impressed. I > guess in the end I'd recommend every other album: Livonia yes, Home no, > Mouth yes, Stars no, Ft. Lake yes, Someday noooooo, Last Night yes. That's interesting to me - because I have a hard time remembering which songs are on Livonia vs. Home (and to an extent, same thing w/Someday vs. Night). Home is *longer* than Livonia, though.... > In particular, it was a nice surprise that Last Night, which I'd heard > was > mostly leftovers from Someday My Blues, was so good. I mean, it does > sound > a lot like its predecessor, except not boring. They obviously learned > something from Ida (whose "Maybelle" is covered on Last Night). That something being? ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:42:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > That's interesting to me - because I have a hard time remembering which > songs are on Livonia vs. Home (and to an extent, same thing w/Someday > vs. Night). Home is *longer* than Livonia, though.... Hm. I found Livonia much more self-consciously incongruous, using Karin Oliver's vocals in much the same way as Stephin Merritt used to use Susan Anway's. Home Is Your Head reminded me of This Mortal Coil and some other (imho) forgettable 4AD stuff; not that it was sonically uninteresting, but the palette used seemed like basic 80s gossamer goblin stuff. > > a lot like its predecessor, except not boring. They obviously learned > > something from Ida (whose "Maybelle" is covered on Last Night). > > That something being? How to be mellow and not suck? I don't know exactly, because I've never figured out just why I found Ida so compelling. (Whatever it is, though, it's even more present at their concerts.) If I were going to be presumptuous and guess at what was going on in their heads, I would say that Defever got a little too lost playing dress-up on Someday My Blues and had to take a page from Ida, who could 'jam' without sounding awful because they didn't think they were getting away with something. But I have no idea. Do I want any of these rarities timestereo.com is selling? a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:50:05 -0700 From: "Michael Zwirn" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Mandel" To: "Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey" Cc: "a nation town" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it > > > a lot like its predecessor, except not boring. They obviously learned > > > something from Ida (whose "Maybelle" is covered on Last Night). > > > > That something being? > > How to be mellow and not suck? I don't know exactly, because I've never > figured out just why I found Ida so compelling. (Whatever it is, though, > it's even more present at their concerts.) And the thing is, I find Ida compelling and glorious, and every HNIA record I ever heard seemed tedious and boring. Also, what's up with the way that War(r)(e)n D(e)F/f(e)v(re)(er) spells his name? l.p. Chappaquidick Skyline Michael - ------ Michael Zwirn, michael@zwirn.com http://zwirn.com (t) 503-232-8919 (c) 503-887-9800 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:57:54 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: [loud-fans] Hey Bay Area folks... Anyone going to see the Glenn Tilbrook/Jill Sobule/John Doe show at Cafe du Nord? My hubby has a 5-day conducting workshop in Santa Cruz next week, and because of seasonal hotel rates we'll be spending at least the weekend at his dad's place in Palo Alto (sure, it's a 60-mile commute each way to Santa Cruz... how is THAT not excellent?). He'll probably have schmoozing activities going on in the evenings, and I've learned the hard way that hanging out with groups of conductors is really, truly not fun AT ALL, so I'm looking for ways to amuse myself in the general region. That concert seemed to be my best bet according to Pollstar, but I'm open to other suggestions (we'll be somewhere in the general region Jul. 24-30, but possibly only in places you could loosely define as the Bay Area on Friday & Saturday nights, depending) (Wow, that was impressively noncommittal.). Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:50:52 GMT From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] The Adults?? (ns) Allmusic lets me down. Does anyone know this band, esp. if it's worth paying more than a few dollars for: I'm mainly interested due to the feelies connection. Actually, the seller has some kind of neat stuff on his other auctions, including the first Talking Heads single, with more to come (he says). Probably worth keeping an eye on him. - --dana, missing the Jicks 'cause me and Shari got sore throats and feel lousy. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:52:39 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Actually, we'll just have coffee, now that we think about it On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 05:42 PM, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > >> That's interesting to me - because I have a hard time remembering >> which >> songs are on Livonia vs. Home (and to an extent, same thing w/Someday >> vs. Night). Home is *longer* than Livonia, though.... > > Hm. I found Livonia much more self-consciously incongruous, using Karin > Oliver's vocals in much the same way as Stephin Merritt used to use > Susan > Anway's. Wasn't Livonia one of those "demo tape released as debut LP" deals, though? That would seem to argue against self-consciousness. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:45:28 GMT From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Malkmus (ns) Moments after I decided that I was too sick to go to the free Stephen Malkmus show in Prospect Park tonight, Shari reminded me that we still have some left over "back medicine" from when I herniated a disk last month and so... ...it was the Best Show Ever!!! Ok, not really, but it was a lot of fun. It rained, sometimes hard, which kept the crowd to a reasonable size and made for some neat atmosphere, especially when lightning started striking in the distance. The band seemed very happy and loose. Stephen didn't bring his girlfriend. Basically, all the songs from the new album were great and the songs from the first album weren't. Highlights were Dark Wave and 1% of one. During the slow parts, it sometimes sounded like the Grateful Dead were playing, but who can complain about a free show. Ok, one complaint. They didn't play "Water and a Seat" which was the main reason I wanted to see them. Grrrr. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #209 *******************************