From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #159 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, June 4 2003 Volume 03 : Number 159 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Lolita Nation, cont. [rlewis@nethere.com (Russ Lewis)] [loud-fans] It's so slow today... [dana-boy@juno.com] Re: [loud-fans] Jon Brion at Largo [Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Jon Brion at Largo On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 05:19 PM, Douglas Stanley wrote: > > Have any of you LA-based Loud-fans had the pleasure of catching any of > the > Jon Brion Friday night bashes? I'm curious as to how hard it is to get > in. > If I drove up by myself, would I be able to see the show or does it > sell > out? I know you can make dinner reservation ahead of time that would > guarantee a spot for the show, but if I'm alone, I'm not sure they'd > let me > make a reservation. I guess this is as good an excuse as any for me to re-de-lurk. :-) (By the way, a very belated thanks to everyone who gave me San Francisco travel tips a few months back - we ended up going to Phoenix for spring training and yummy hot weather instead, but I feel much better equipped to go to SF the next time it comes up! Things got kinda nuts and much mail went unanswered...) You're right - they won't take a dinner reservation for just one person. (I'd go with you, but I don't live there anymore.) The show usually sells out at some point during the evening, but if you can't get in early you might be able to get in late - it doesn't always stay maxed out the whole time. It really varies from week to week, too... sometimes there's a huge line, other weeks not so much. The best guarantee of getting in is arriving early and standing in line, but seeing as Jon doesn't usually go on until 3 or more hours after the doors open, that's a lot of standing. A few times lately when we've been in LA for another show, we've slithered in after 11:30 and seen most of the show without any real problem (um, they'd let us in anyway, but the "Sold Out" sign hasn't been up so I don't think it was special treatment), except for the fact that you've pretty much gotta stand directly in front of someone who's been there all night, which might make you wish you were shorter. And I'm also wishing this post were shorter, but there's not really a straightforward answer. If you can't find someone to share a table with, you're looking at an uncertain situation. Hope that helps a little! Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:43:10 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] emusic suggestions Some of my favorite acquisitions from eMusic are Sianspheric albums. I had their most recent one, "The Sound of the Color of the Sun", already, and liked it a lot, so when I saw the rest of the catalogue up on eMusic, I pounced. In particular, I've been listening to "Somnium" a lot, but they're all good. I'm not good at describing stuff like this. It's not ambient enough to be ambient. There are nice, searing noise guitars, lots of daydreamy moments, but louder, livelier sections as well. Allmusic describes them as "Ethereal, Intense, Trippy, Hypnotic, Nocturnal", and "part noise, low-tech, and guitar sounds with a minimalist attitude", though I would hesitate to call them minimalist. Anyway, nice for background or foreground, particularly nice late at night if you're a bat like me, trying to wind down, but still in creative mode. Also, despite several servings of cheese, The Last "L.A. Explosion" gets a lot of play. I like tracks 16 and 12 best, but your mileage may vary. They attempt (and sometimes succeed at ) everything from garage, to punk, to beach pop. One of my most treasured downloads is the Damned "Sessions of the Damned", a collection of radio performances plus a few extras. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:46:52 -0500 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Radiohead/Hail To The Thief at Slate > The promise of Godard and the Beatles is now, 40 years later, most > engagingly in the hands of Almodsvar and Radiohead. A discussion of Radiohead and Hail To The Thief at Slate's The Music Club - http://slate.msn.com/id/2083783/entry/2083833/ - - Steve __________ We've created this cottage industry in which it pays to be un-objective. It pays to be subjective as much as possible. It's a great way to have your cake and eat it too. Criticize other people for not being objective. Be as subjective as you want. It's a great little racket. I'm glad we found it actually. - Weekly Standard writer Matt Labash, on the right wing media ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:15:08 -0400 From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] Radiohead in Slate (ns) I'm glad to see that the Times guy calls Sasha Frere-Jones on his pointless comment about the Mountain Goats ranking in cultural importance with the Beatles, but I'm still wondering about the Can comment, "but there's no reason any normal person would know an obscure German rhythm band from the '70s." Are Can really so obscure that it's not even worth explaining who they are (despite the fact that they are, in fact, a major influence on recent Radiohead). Jones seems to have some intelligent points to make (I'm thanking god that Nick Hornby's moment as the thinking man's music critic seems to have passed) but sometimes I just don't get where he's coming from. - --dana ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #159 *******************************