From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #73 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, March 12 2003 Volume 03 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 ["R. Kevin Doyle" ] Re: [loud-fans] aislers set track question [Cardinal007 ] RE: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) [Micah Bedwell ] [loud-fans] SF/bay area movie ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] aislers set track question [Steve Holtebeck ] [loud-fans] Steve Wynn ["RichardBlatherwick" ] [loud-fans] for all you budding composers ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 [Gil Ray ] Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 [AWeiss4338@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:28:47 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 Aloha Gil! This is going to sound hopelessly fanboyish of me, but thanks so much for this four part excercise. "Lolita Nation" continues to be one of my favorite recordings of all time (I have it on vinyl, cassette and CD) and reading this was something akin to reading one of the Beatles' discussing the process of creating "The White Album." (if I can be forgiven for being the 9000th person who compares _LN_ to "The White Album") Thank you! R. Kevin Doyle Honolulu, HI - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Gil Ray Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:51:47 -0800 (PST) > Howdy Kats and Kittens, finally side four. Boo hoo! >I wish there were more sides! > After all of the hoopla, we come to a very straight >ahead side 4 and I think it closes out the record in a >perfect way. > >Chardonnay - I'm digging the tremelo guitar intro! >Look out,here we come! A quintessential GT keyboard >part that Shelley plays wonderfully. Lots of chords, >the poor dear...Peppy Gil Ray drumming, which is even >more impressive knowing that we weren't all that >familiar with the arrangement of the song when we >recorded it. Matter of fact, I got a rough mix of this >and Scott was yelling out the changes to us as we were >recording it. I had completely forgotten that the >original length of this song was way longer than it >ended up. I'm pretty sure he had to cut it down for >space considerations, but I don't remember if that was >because of vinyl or cd reasons. I do know that this >was the very first cd I owned. I didn't get a player >until later on.Groovy tambourine wore my ass out. >I love the breakdown in the middle that leads into a >very kickass bridge. I'm whomping the shit out of the >drums at the end. Was CharDONNAY a play on DONNY? >Hmmm. > >Last Day That We're Young - Damn! What a cool >progression! Gui is playing a very great bass part (I >think it's Gui...)Drums are sounding like drums on >this side and you know that makes me happy. This is >such a cool song! The interplay between the >instruments is something to behold. "What was it we >were always wanting? Didn't we know we had it all?" >Damn. What a way for the band to end the record with.I >really like that he put a bit of some of the weird >tape manipulation stuff at the very end that leads >to.... > >Together Now, Very Minor - I had nothing to do with >this one and I think it's the most beautiful song on >the album. Stuff running through a leslie is always >good. I bet Mitch had something to do with that. > >OK. There you go. This was special mainly because I >remember we were all still really good friends and >thought "we had it all". It was the first record in a >long while that the personel that played on it, >actually got to tour for it also. We were gettin' >along and playing really well together. The tour that >followed was the most awesome tour I've ever been >on.It just happens to be the tour that Donny booked. >She did good. So did Shelley,Gui,myself, and of course >Scott. He did real good. >Gil >Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online >http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:19:24 -0500 From: Cardinal007 Subject: Re: [loud-fans] aislers set track question > From: Jenny Grover > > I downloaded the Aislers Set from eMusic, and was just wondering if the > track "Attraction Action Reaction" really does cut off quite abruptly or > go immediately into the intro of "Through the Shells". I want to make > sure things are as they should be here. > > Jen Ms. Grover: I'm *almost* certain you "misburned" this little beauty. In order to confirm this, would you please mail me your copy? Also, I have a list of other material from e-music that I'd like. Would you please "misburn" them and mail them to me as well? And there are a few records in your collection that I don't have; could you please "misburn" them and mail them to me? Thanks!! [Oh, btw, *thanks!!, Jeff!!!! Great idea!!!!!**] - --C7 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:15:46 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: > Thanks for writing these, Gil, they sure have been fun to read. If you feel > inclined to write about making any other Game Theory records I for one would > love to read any musings you have. no kiddin' thanks a million, Gil! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:57:23 -0800 From: Micah Bedwell Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) My results: 1. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (100%) 2. Liberal Quakers (86%) 3. Unitarian Universalism (80%) 4. Baha'm Faith (66%) 5. Neo-Pagan (62%) 6. Reform Judaism (62%) 7. New Age (61%) 8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (58%) 9. Orthodox Quaker (57%) 10. New Thought (57%) 11. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (53%) 12. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (53%) 13. Secular Humanism (50%) 14. Sikhism (46%) 15. Mahayana Buddhism (45%) 16. Eastern Orthodox (44%) 17. Roman Catholic (44%) 18. Theravada Buddhism (44%) 19. Jehovah's Witness (41%) 20. Scientology (41%) 21. Taoism (40%) 22. Seventh Day Adventist (37%) 23. Hinduism (35%) 24. Orthodox Judaism (34%) 25. Jainism (31%) 26. Nontheist (25%) 27. Islam (23%) Micah - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org]On Behalf Of David Seldin Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:44 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) Cool. Here are my results: 1. Reform Judaism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (92%) 3. Liberal Quakers (90%) 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (81%) 5. Sikhism (80%) 6. Neo-Pagan (80%) 7. Baha'm Faith (78%) 8. New Age (71%) 9. Secular Humanism (70%) 10. Islam (67%) 11. Orthodox Judaism (67%) 12. Mahayana Buddhism (65%) 13. Jainism (62%) 14. Scientology (62%) 15. New Thought (58%) 16. Theravada Buddhism (58%) 17. Taoism (56%) 18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (50%) 19. Nontheist (46%) 20. Orthodox Quaker (45%) 21. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (44%) 22. Hinduism (42%) 23. Jehovah's Witness (30%) 24. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (29%) 25. Eastern Orthodox (24%) 26. Roman Catholic (24%) 27. Seventh Day Adventist (21%) As a practicing Reform Jew, I'm impressed! Shabbat Shalom, David - ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Andrew Hamlin" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) > http://beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html > > Not especially surprising that I tested out as the "faith" I "had" growing > up, but some of my other results were surprising. > > 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) > 2. Liberal Quakers (97%) > 3. Secular Humanism (94%) > 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (92%) > 5. Neo-Pagan (77%) > 6. New Age (67%) > 7. Nontheist (65%) > 8. Baha'm Faith (62%) > 9. Theravada Buddhism (62%) > 10. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (53%) > 11. Taoism (51%) > 12. Mahayana Buddhism (50%) > 13. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (50%) 14. > Orthodox Quaker (45%) > 15. Reform Judaism (45%) > 16. New Thought (41%) > 17. Sikhism (38%) > 18. Scientology (37%) > 19. Jehovah's Witness (37%) > 20. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (35%) > 21. Jainism (30%) > 22. Hinduism (25%) > 23. Seventh Day Adventist (20%) > 24. Eastern Orthodox (16%) > 25. Islam (16%) > 26. Orthodox Judaism (16%) > 27. Roman Catholic (16%) > > Wondering how you mainline a Christian Protestant, > > Andy > > "In many, many parts of this country, if you don't have a working car, you > don't > work." Again, I'm afraid I don't really buy this either. Very few major > metropolitan > areas are without some sort of mass transit (though, granted, a lot of > these systems > can be pretty lame and inadequate); and if you're not in a major > metropolitan area, > available jobs are probably either within walking or biking distance, or they > provide transportation. > > [--a friend of mine, replying to the supposition I put forth in the quote > that opens the above. I get the feeling he's not quite right, but I > welcome experiences and stories from anyone here.] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:21:08 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] aislers set track question Cardinal007 wrote: >Ms. Grover: > >I'm *almost* certain you "misburned" this little beauty. > >In order to confirm this, would you please mail me your copy? > >Also, I have a list of other material from e-music that I'd like. Would you >please "misburn" them and mail them to me as well? > >And there are a few records in your collection that I don't have; could you >please "misburn" them and mail them to me? Thanks!! > >[Oh, btw, *thanks!!, Jeff!!!! Great idea!!!!!**] > >--C7 > > Misburn it yourself! Anyway, I haven't burned it at all, let alone mis-burned it. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:16:49 GMT From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: Re:RE: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) Looks like we should start kicking all the non-Unitarians out of loud-fans in the interest of preserving our religion (I test out as Unitarian too, which was the faith of my parents). #2 is Theravada Buddhism, which probably has to do with my belief that those who misburn CD's will be reincarnated as camels. - --dana - ---------- Micah Bedwell writes: My results: 1. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (100%) 2. Liberal Quakers (86%) 3. Unitarian Universalism (80%) 4. Baha'm Faith (66%) 5. Neo-Pagan (62%) 6. Reform Judaism (62%) 7. New Age (61%) 8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (58%) 9. Orthodox Quaker (57%) 10. New Thought (57%) 11. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (53%) 12. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (53%) 13. Secular Humanism (50%) 14. Sikhism (46%) 15. Mahayana Buddhism (45%) 16. Eastern Orthodox (44%) 17. Roman Catholic (44%) 18. Theravada Buddhism (44%) 19. Jehovah's Witness (41%) 20. Scientology (41%) 21. Taoism (40%) 22. Seventh Day Adventist (37%) 23. Hinduism (35%) 24. Orthodox Judaism (34%) 25. Jainism (31%) 26. Nontheist (25%) 27. Islam (23%) Micah - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org]On Behalf Of David Seldin Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:44 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) Cool. Here are my results: 1. Reform Judaism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (92%) 3. Liberal Quakers (90%) 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (81%) 5. Sikhism (80%) 6. Neo-Pagan (80%) 7. Baha'm Faith (78%) 8. New Age (71%) 9. Secular Humanism (70%) 10. Islam (67%) 11. Orthodox Judaism (67%) 12. Mahayana Buddhism (65%) 13. Jainism (62%) 14. Scientology (62%) 15. New Thought (58%) 16. Theravada Buddhism (58%) 17. Taoism (56%) 18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (50%) 19. Nontheist (46%) 20. Orthodox Quaker (45%) 21. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (44%) 22. Hinduism (42%) 23. Jehovah's Witness (30%) 24. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (29%) 25. Eastern Orthodox (24%) 26. Roman Catholic (24%) 27. Seventh Day Adventist (21%) As a practicing Reform Jew, I'm impressed! Shabbat Shalom, David - ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Andrew Hamlin" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) > http://beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html > > Not especially surprising that I tested out as the "faith" I "had" growing > up, but some of my other results were surprising. > > 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) > 2. Liberal Quakers (97%) > 3. Secular Humanism (94%) > 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (92%) > 5. Neo-Pagan (77%) > 6. New Age (67%) > 7. Nontheist (65%) > 8. Baha'm Faith (62%) > 9. Theravada Buddhism (62%) > 10. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (53%) > 11. Taoism (51%) > 12. Mahayana Buddhism (50%) > 13. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (50%) 14. > Orthodox Quaker (45%) > 15. Reform Judaism (45%) > 16. New Thought (41%) > 17. Sikhism (38%) > 18. Scientology (37%) > 19. Jehovah's Witness (37%) > 20. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (35%) > 21. Jainism (30%) > 22. Hinduism (25%) > 23. Seventh Day Adventist (20%) > 24. Eastern Orthodox (16%) > 25. Islam (16%) > 26. Orthodox Judaism (16%) > 27. Roman Catholic (16%) > > Wondering how you mainline a Christian Protestant, > > Andy > > "In many, many parts of this country, if you don't have a working car, you > don't > work." Again, I'm afraid I don't really buy this either. Very few major > metropolitan > areas are without some sort of mass transit (though, granted, a lot of > these systems > can be pretty lame and inadequate); and if you're not in a major > metropolitan area, > available jobs are probably either within walking or biking distance, or they > provide transportation. > > [--a friend of mine, replying to the supposition I put forth in the quote > that opens the above. I get the feeling he's not quite right, but I > welcome experiences and stories from anyone here.] ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:43:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Dorsey Subject: [loud-fans] Patriot Act in force http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/10/MN14634.DTL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:55:25 -0800 From: "me" Subject: [loud-fans] SF/bay area movie tonight is the last night for *David Hockney - Secret Knowledge* at the Roxie in SF. http://www.roxie.com/ i'll be at the 8pm show with my mom, if anyone wants to join us. brianna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:20:21 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] aislers set track question Jenny Grover wrote: > I downloaded the Aislers Set from eMusic, and was just wondering if > the track "Attraction Action Reaction" really does cut off quite > abruptly or go immediately into the intro of "Through the Shells". > I want to make sure things are as they should be here. "Attraction Action Reaction" does end abruptly and flow into "Through The Shells", so if the digital readout on your CD/MP3 player makes all the way to 3:40, you've got the entire song. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:32:09 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Fleming Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 But but but... there is!!! Any notes of the 2 Steps record?? :) Pleasepleaseplease!!! Phil F. NP: AC/DC _Back In Black_ remaster. - --- Gil Ray wrote: > Howdy Kats and Kittens, finally side four. Boo > hoo! > I wish there were more sides! > After all of the hoopla, we come to a very > straight > ahead side 4 and I think it closes out the record in > a > perfect way. Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:30:27 -0000 From: "RichardBlatherwick" Subject: [loud-fans] Steve Wynn New album now available from Blue Rose records in Germany. Comes beautifully packaged in a 2CD digipack, including the album and a bonus CD with 3 other tracks and some video - not had a chance to view that yet. Not the instant hit with me that was Here Come the Miracles, but still has a large number of top Steve Wynn tunes, and for fans of Giant Sand/Calexico those links do make themselves apparent on a few occasions. Richard http://www.bluerose-records.de/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:55:44 -0800 From: "me" Subject: [loud-fans] for all you budding composers http://humanradiance.com/Pages/Ixion%20Overview.html make music with your body. or something like that. but with more crystals and new-agey stuff. includes a section on Sounding Your Inner Self. (i guess that's for after Taco Bell.) oooh.... and it's even trademarked.... brianna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:15:49 -0800 From: dc Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Let's Active on 3/7/03 1:45 PM, Jeff Downing at jddown@yahoo.com wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, it appears you can order your copy of > Cypress/Afoot today: http://www.ccmusic.com/item.cfm?itemid=CCM03762 > speaking of, here's an excellent recent feature story on The Talented Mr. Easter. even name-checks a certain Bay Area band that's mentioned in these parts from time to time. http://www.newsobserver.com/features/story/2161918p-2049703c.html dc vicinity of seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:47:49 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 Phil F. wrote: > Any notes of the 2 Steps record?? :) > Pleasepleaseplease!!! Hasn't Gil already done TWO STEPS? Yes he has! http://www.escribe.com/music/loudfans/m33507.html Based on the GT namecheck from the article link that dc just posted.. > Easter's reputation soon spread across the South and beyond. Numerous > acts from the 1980s underground-rock pantheon traveled to Winston to > record at the Drive-In -- now-obscure bands like the Bongos, > Windbreakers, Beat Rodeo, Pylon, Game Theory -- as well as scores of > completely forgotten regional bands. My next request for Gil would be notes on the recording of BIG SHOT CHRONICLES, the Game Theory album recorded at Mitch's Drive-In studio in Winston-Salem. Thanks to Gil for the LN (and TWO STEPS) notes.. It's great that loud-fans is still on-topic every once in a while! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 I would like to thank ya'll for the great response to these review things I've been doing. It is a whole lot of fun for me! Next up BSC and I'm thinking of even doing DFD and AN. (those should be weird...not as much time has passed to warp my feelings on those yet.... Maybe...) Thanks! Gil - --- Steve Holtebeck wrote: > Phil F. wrote: > > Any notes of the 2 Steps record?? :) > > Pleasepleaseplease!!! > > Hasn't Gil already done TWO STEPS? Yes he has! > http://www.escribe.com/music/loudfans/m33507.html > > Based on the GT namecheck from the article link that > dc just posted.. > > Easter's reputation soon spread across the South > and beyond. Numerous > > acts from the 1980s underground-rock pantheon > traveled to Winston to > > record at the Drive-In -- now-obscure bands like > the Bongos, > > Windbreakers, Beat Rodeo, Pylon, Game Theory -- as > well as scores of > > completely forgotten regional bands. > > My next request for Gil would be notes on the > recording of BIG SHOT > CHRONICLES, the Game Theory album recorded at > Mitch's Drive-In studio in > Winston-Salem. Thanks to Gil for the LN (and TWO > STEPS) notes.. It's > great that loud-fans is still on-topic every once in > a while! > > -Steve Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:38:11 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LN: side 4 In a message dated 3/12/03 12:26:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, ggilray@yahoo.com writes: > I would like to thank ya'll for the great response to > these review things I've been doing. It is a whole lot > of fun for me! Next up BSC and I'm thinking of even > doing DFD and AN. (those should be weird...not as much > time has passed to warp my feelings on those yet.... > Maybe...) > Thanks! > Gil > Cool!!! Keep 'em coming Gil. And thanks for the LN commentary. Andrea ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #73 ******************************