From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #70 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, March 9 2003 Volume 03 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) [*THAT* Matt Weber ] Re: [loud-fans] Crossword confusion [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] in Oakland/Berkeley [michael@zwirn.com] Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) [Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) At 12:25 AM -0600 3/8/03, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Quoting Stewart Mason : > > > NP: BROOMTREE -- Downy Mildew > >Okay, what the flying turbocharged Christfuck is "Downy Mildew" and why >would anyone name their band that? (oops - it's catching, I see...) Been reading De Sade again, Jeff? Matt Nous n'irons plus aux bois, les lauriers sont coupis. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:31:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Dorsey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) on 3/08/03 12:54 AM, Stewart Mason at flamingo@theworld.com wrote: > (home of > that dickhead Thoreau), Just curious-why do you think Thoreau is a dickhead? Carolyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:21:31 -0500 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: [loud-fans] Crossword confusion Mark wrote: Our beloved Aimee Mann made her first (as near as I can remember) appearance in the NYT crossword puzzle today. 37 across, to be exact. Maybe she'll become a regular like "Rock's Brian", otherwise clued as "Roxy Music Co-founder", who seems to be an NYT crossword favorite. Uh, it hopefully spells it "Bryan" in the hint, otherwise, he'll get mixed in with Brians galore. ;) Rick - -- "It takes a long time before we cease to feel proud of being wanted. Though God knows why we should feel it, when we look around and see who is wanted too". ******Graham Greene, "The Quiet American"****** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:00:10 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Crossword confusion Quoting Richard Gagnon : > Mark wrote: > > Our beloved Aimee Mann made her first (as near as I can remember) > appearance in the NYT crossword puzzle today. 37 across, to be exact. > > Maybe she'll become a regular like "Rock's Brian", otherwise clued as > "Roxy Music Co-founder", who seems to be an NYT crossword favorite. > > Uh, it hopefully spells it "Bryan" in the hint, otherwise, he'll get > mixed in with Brians galore. ;) I thought they meant "ENO" - certainly a good crossword name. (I"m not up enough on my Roxy history to know whether he's technically a co-founder...) ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 17:46:13 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) At 10:31 AM 3/8/2003 -0500, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: >on 3/08/03 12:54 AM, Stewart Mason at flamingo@theworld.com wrote: > >> (home of >> that dickhead Thoreau), > >Just curious-why do you think Thoreau is a dickhead? All those thousands of words in WALDEN, you think he'd mention just *once* that along with his woodland reveries and communing with nature, he was also walking into town pretty much every day to drop off his laundry (at his PARENTS' house, if I recall correctly!) and go to the post office. But he doesn't, and as a result, I find the book to be on a very basic level, a fraud. S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:57:39 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) At 05:46 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, Stewart Mason wrote: >At 10:31 AM 3/8/2003 -0500, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: >>on 3/08/03 12:54 AM, Stewart Mason at flamingo@theworld.com wrote: >> >>> (home of >>> that dickhead Thoreau), >> >>Just curious-why do you think Thoreau is a dickhead? > >All those thousands of words in WALDEN, you think he'd mention just *once* >that along with his woodland reveries and communing with nature, he was >also walking into town pretty much every day to drop off his laundry (at >his PARENTS' house, if I recall correctly!) and go to the post office. But >he doesn't, and as a result, I find the book to be on a very basic level, a >fraud. And here I was thinking you called him a dickhead because you'd seen him turn in a poor set opening for R.W. Emerson's Transparent Eyeballs. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:08:06 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] saying things out loud So, does anyone know if the band is called Jupiter Affect on purpose (i.e., second word accent on first syllable) or if it's just a dumb misspelling? Also, how does one pronounce "The Aislers Set" and where's the name from? Finally: isn't part of the melody of "Emotional Levy" (which I persist in seeing as "Eugene Levy") borrowed from the Hazlewood/N. Sinatra song "Summer Wine"? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ :: "Provoking an attack absolutely does NOT mean that the attack would have :: happened eventually otherwise. It's like going into a bar and acting like :: a dick until someone punches you and then having that guy arrested for :: assault. And a 'pre-emptive strike' is just going into a bar and hitting :: the biggest guy you see as hard and fast as possible because he's clearly :: a threat." :: --Jeme Brelin np: The Aislers Set _How I Learned to Write Backwards_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:28:09 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Gordon Subject: Re: [loud-fans] saying things out loud > Also, how does one pronounce "The Aislers Set" and where's the name from? I pronounce it "EYE-lers set". There's a brief, if somewhat unsatisfying, explanation of the name about midway through this article: http://www.insound.com/zinestand/skyway/feature.cfm?aid=7487 I just saw the Aislers Set at the Great American Music hall in SF, and it was a great show. They are on tour now with the Quails, and both bands are worth checking out live. Details on the News page at http://www.aislersset.com/ - -Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 17:36:13 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Let's Active At Friday 3/7/2003 09:29 PM -0500, Larry Tucker wrote: >Well that's very interesting. In talking with a certain member of the band >that should know I was told it was "in the works". When I first posted about it and broke the story a couple of weeks ago, I was told by my source (whom I'm sure is pretty close to your source) that the Collector's Choice Let's Active reissues were a done deal for spring and summer. I'm glad to see that they are now offering it on the web page. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: michael@zwirn.com Subject: [loud-fans] in Oakland/Berkeley I'm at a conference in Oakland until Monday night. I'll be darn busy 8:30-6:00 Sunday and Monday, but if someone wants to say hi, zap me a quick message at 5038879800@mobile.att.net. Michael Michael J. Zwirn http://www.zwirn.com Home: 503/232-8919 Cell: 503/887-9800 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:50:40 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) > what the flying turbocharged Christfuck is "Downy Mildew" and why > would anyone name their band that? I remember hearing the name had something to do with Downy fabric softener, but apparently downy mildew is an agricultural fungus affecting grapes. http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3013.html > np: Ted Leo and the Pharmacist _Hearts of Oak_: Okay, I like this one > pretty well on my first listen - so how come Leo's last release (on > Gern Blandsten - forget the title) did zip zero nada for me? Weird... His last release was TYRANNY OF DISTANCE, on Lookout, and his last couple of albums are more melodic and less difficult than the earlier solo albums.. I still haven't checked out any of the Chisel albums yet. > how does one pronounce "The Aislers Set" and where's the name from? I've only heard it pronounced "EYE-lers set", like Sarah pronounces it, and the explanation that Amy Linton gave in that interview for the origin of the band name (people walking down aisles) sounds plausible to me. The only instances of the word "aislers" on the internet are references to the band, so I think it's probably a made-up word anyway! > Finally: isn't part of the melody of "Emotional Levy" (which I persist > in seeing as "Eugene Levy") borrowed from the Hazlewood/N. Sinatra > song "Summer Wine"? Yes. I was trying to remember the song that "Emotional Levy" reminded me of, and it was "Summer Wine". And the intro to "Mission Bells" sounds borrowed from "Paint it Black", but that sequence of notes might be in the public domain. The new Aislers Set album HOW TO WRITE BACKWARDS is available via eMusic, and I think they're one of those bands whose songs sound punchier and better on mp3s than they do on regular CDs (IMO). Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 03:08:55 GMT From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: Re:Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) Yes. I was trying to remember the song that "Emotional Levy" reminded me of, and it was "Summer Wine". And the intro to "Mission Bells" sounds borrowed from "Paint it Black", but that sequence of notes might be in the public domain. >>>>>>>>>>>> Along these lines, what's the deal with the Ted Leo + Pharmacists song "Timorous Me"? Is it an intentional homage to "The Boys Are Back In Town"? I don't have the Thin Lizzy song to do a comparison with, and I haven't heard it in a really long time, but I'm assuming that that's the song that I'm thinking of. Wondering if this is one of those cases, that our Scott fears, of unintentional plagarism or if there's some master plan. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 00:03:29 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) In a message dated 3/8/2003 9:55:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, smholt@ix.netcom.com writes: > > what the flying turbocharged Christfuck is "Downy Mildew" and why > > would anyone name their band that? > > I remember hearing the name had something to do with Downy fabric > softener, but apparently downy mildew is an agricultural fungus > affecting grapes. http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3013.html > If my memory is correct, this is a band that evolved out of the Dead Milkmen. It's two guys from that band, a woman who is the singer, and one more guy. Their folk rock, and a lot more serious than the Milkmen were. I can't remember if i ever heard them, but I know I've read about them. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:14:58 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) At 12:03 AM 3/9/2003 EST, AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: >> > what the flying turbocharged Christfuck is "Downy Mildew" and why >> > would anyone name their band that? >> >If my memory is correct, this is a band that evolved out of the Dead Milkmen. >It's two guys from that band, a woman who is the singer, and one more guy. >Their folk rock, and a lot more serious than the Milkmen were. I can't >remember if i ever heard them, but I know I've read about them. I'm pretty sure you must be thinking of someone else: the Dead Milkmen were from Philadelphia and Downy Mildew were from California, and the first Downy Mildew record came out not very long at all after the first Dead Milkmen record, around 1985 or so. Your description of their sound is pretty accurate, though, although the male songwriter sings about as much as the female songwriter does. They fall into the general area of "really pretty, kind of insubstantial, vaguely psychedelic folk-rock bands from the '80s," and basically sound like they listened to a lot of early R.E.M. and Church albums. As far as inappropriate band names go, I always thought that Vomit Launch was a terrible name for a band that sounded like Barbara Manning obsessed with the '80s Flying Nun bands. I mean, even more than the real Barbara Manning was. S NP: HOLD TIGHT THE ROPES -- Elk City (what this NYC trio has to do with a small town in western Oklahoma that my aunt and uncle used to live in, I dunno, but it's less nonsensical than their old name, the Melting Hopefuls) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 02:24:25 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Have we done this one before? (ns) Stewart Mason wrote: >As far as inappropriate band names go, I always thought that Vomit Launch >was a terrible name for a band that sounded like Barbara Manning obsessed >with the '80s Flying Nun bands. I mean, even more than the real Barbara >Manning was. > > Inappropriate was kind of the point, though. I read an interview of them and how they chose the band name. Basically, they had a band with no name, and gigs lined up already. They had friends list names, including joke names. Can't remember if they chose that one just for the hell of it or at random, out of a hat or something. It was supposed to be temporary, but it stuck. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #70 ******************************