From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #41 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, February 9 2003 Volume 03 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] 2002 poll results ["Vallor" ] [loud-fans] article -- Instant live CDs of a concert? Testing to begin in Boston [Dave Walker ] [loud-fans] Attn: David Barnes (sorry, everyone else) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs ] Re: [loud-fans] our wonderful legal system [JRT456@aol.com] [loud-fans] cd player help [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] cd player help [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] cd player help [Michael Mitton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 01:19:50 -0500 From: "Vallor" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] 2002 poll results > > Dan, what's your album? Did you announce it here? Mine didn't make it > > either--let's have a pity party sometime. > > Me either. *snif* As Steve said, mine's under the name Clarinette but it's vinyl only (Mssrs. Moore & Coley's preferred format). Since I'm mentioning it, here's some write up's (while I'm a bit embarrassed to post them, there's some SM content). http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/333 http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/53 - - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:26:17 -0500 From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] article -- Instant live CDs of a concert? Testing to begin in Boston "Experiments are rife in the music business these days -- and Boston will be a test market for one of the most novel of them. Clear Channel Concerts, the nation's largest concert promoter, has ambitious plans to record live CDs of its shows and sell them to patrons within five minutes after those shows end. Clear Channel is targeting Boston as the first site for the new plan, according to sources within the organization. " http://tinyurl.com/5j8e Have Boston area LoudFans heard anything more about this? -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:34:26 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] our wonderful legal system In a message dated 2/7/03 9:42:32 PM, steveschiavo@mac.com writes: << Considering the news today about the DoJ's proposed new legislation, the Palmer Raids are probably the heritage Ashcroft has in mind. >> I thought Ashcroft's dreaded equivalent of the Palmer Raids happened over a year ago. And then, you know, again last November 18th. And now he's once, twice, three times a monster! At this rate, we might actually one day start deporting illegal aliens who commit crimes. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:13:59 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] our wonderful legal system > << Considering the news today about the DoJ's proposed new legislation, > the Palmer Raids are probably the heritage Ashcroft has in mind. >> On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 09:34 AM, JRT456@aol.com wrote: > I thought Ashcroft's dreaded equivalent of the Palmer Raids happened > over a > year ago. And then, you know, again last November 18th. And now he's > once, > twice, three times a monster! At this rate, we might actually one day > start > deporting illegal aliens who commit crimes. Come on JR, you haven't been keeping up with your left wing media. There's new draft legislation out of the DoJ that, among other things, allows secret arrests and the revocation of citizenship. I've got no gripe with deporting illegal aliens that commit crimes. (But I would point out that immigration law has pretty much been ignored by people of all political parties). I just wonder if Republicans can resist their inherent desire to use such laws to punish people and behavior that they don't like. - - Steve __________ People have a stereotype about what animation is, and don't recognize the possibilities. Hayao Miyazaki's "Spirited Away" had the most remarkable command of narrative I've seen in a very, very long time. This is just the best-told movie story of the year, enormously inventive and satisfying and meticulous. To me, it completely revivifies the value of real narrative in a movie. - Scott Rudin, producer of "The Hours" __________ While still at the Department of Justice, Rehnquist provided the best definition of a strict constructionist I have ever encountered. It was in a memo Rehnquist wrote while he was vetting Judge Clement Haynsworth, one of Nixon's selections who was rejected by the Senate. Rehnquist wrote, in brief, that a strict constructionist was anyone who likes prosecutors and dislikes criminal defendants and who favors civil rights defendants over civil rights plaintiffs. That is as candid and blunt as you can get. And that is the real definition of a strict constructionist. - John Dean __________ "We're not attacking Islam, but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God," the Rev. Franklin Graham, who spoke at President Bush's inauguration, said recently. "He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God, and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:53:16 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] Attn: David Barnes (sorry, everyone else) David: the e-mail address I have for you is bouncing as being "full." If you see this, please contact me offlist. Thanks. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:29:50 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] our wonderful legal system In a message dated 2/8/03 11:15:10 AM, steveschiavo@mac.com writes: <> See, now there's some good centrist reasoning. And it's always good to get upset over draft legislation...which many people, including myself, downloaded yesterday from the Center for Public Integrity's website. And how can you not love an organization with a fine name like that? I doubt that many pop music fans are bothering to read this stuff, but I have a sealed copy of Arson Garden's "Wisteria" here for whoever recently expressed interest in the band. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 18:28:11 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: [loud-fans] cd player help Anyone know of any software CD Player (hopefully freeware, but I'm willing to look at shareware too) for Windows XP that interfaces with CDDB2 and will allow you to export the track information (track number, title, track time) to a text file? CD Wizzard would let you do that, but it doesn't seem to work under XP. All the ones I've installed don't allow a text export. It doesn't even really have to be able to play CDs - I just want to get the CDDB2 info into a form that I can import into my own database program. Thanks! Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 21:06:13 -0500 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd player help On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 08:28 PM, Roger Winston wrote: > Anyone know of any software CD Player (hopefully freeware, but I'm > willing to look at shareware too) for Windows XP that interfaces with > CDDB2 and will allow you to export the track information (track > number, title, track time) to a text file? CD Wizzard would let you > do that, but it doesn't seem to work under XP. All the ones I've > installed don't allow a text export. It doesn't even really have to > be able to play CDs - I just want to get the CDDB2 info into a form > that I can import into my own database program. This one http://www.cdwinder.de/ Talks to the freedb (analogous to the CDDB, but much cooler license terms) and will export CSV text files. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 21:14:26 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd player help On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Roger Winston wrote: > Anyone know of any software CD Player (hopefully freeware, but I'm willing > to look at shareware too) for Windows XP that interfaces with CDDB2 and > will allow you to export the track information (track number, title, track > time) to a text file? CD Wizzard would let you do that, but it doesn't It takes a little work, but you can do it in Media Jukebox (www.mediajukebox.com). Click on "Media Library" so that your entire library is in the "Now Playing" list. Then go inside the J River directory (where media jukebox is), then into the data directory. There's a file there called "curplaylist.jmd" but it's actually a text file. (As the name suggests, whatever is in the current play list will be in that file.) Then bring up that file in Excel, probably using "/" as breaks between columns, and "C:" as breaks between rows. Alternatively, have your tried telling XP to run Wizzard (or whatever that program was) specifically in Windows ME (or 98) mode? That often helps with programs that are cranky under XP. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:04:41 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd player help At Saturday 2/8/2003 09:06 PM -0500, Dave Walker wrote: >http://www.cdwinder.de/ > >Talks to the freedb (analogous to the CDDB, but much cooler license terms) and >will export CSV text files. Nice, except that it won't actually get the data back from the freedb - it tells me it is corrupted. It does find the disc title, but won't get the track information. This is the same thing that was happening to me with CD Wizzard and the CDDB. Not sure if it's XP or my Internet connection (I recently got a new DSL modem) or something else... At Saturday 2/8/2003 09:14 PM -0500, Michael Mitton wrote: >It takes a little work, but you can do it in Media Jukebox >(www.mediajukebox.com). Click on "Media Library" so that your entire >library is in the "Now Playing" list. Then go inside the J River >directory (where media jukebox is), then into the data directory. There's >a file there called "curplaylist.jmd" but it's actually a text file. (As >the name suggests, whatever is in the current play list will be in that >file.) Then bring up that file in Excel, probably using "/" as breaks >between columns, and "C:" as breaks between rows. I couldn't get that to work - my .jmd file is in a format without track names (it has the .cda file names instead). Obviously I'm doing something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what. But it doesn't matter. There's a much easier way to export the data I want. Simply selecting all the tracks in the track view and doing a "Copy" from the right click menu exports it as text, which I can then paste into a file. You don't even need to use the Media Library. What's really cool is that you can setup the track view to only display the columns you want to see, and those are the ones that get copied. Looks like I'll be giving these guys some money... >Alternatively, have your tried telling XP to run Wizzard (or whatever that >program was) specifically in Windows ME (or 98) mode? That often helps >with programs that are cranky under XP. See my answer to Dave above... Thanks for the info, guys! You is the greatest. BTW, I finally bought the Interpol, Kathleen Edwards, and OK GO discs today. Catching up at last... Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #41 ******************************