From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #37 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, February 6 2003 Volume 03 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] self-promotion, quick redux ["Brian Block" ] [loud-fans] Paul Seeman's CD mix reviewed [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers [Dana Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:22:16 +0000 From: "Brian Block" Subject: [loud-fans] self-promotion, quick redux Ah, hi. Ease-of-use note: my new PRICE OF MILK review is right at this link - - http://www.epinions.com/content_89068310148 with further navigation then possible. This being-loudly-opinionated stuff is fun; i'd forgotten. - - Brian _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 07:07:02 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers At Tuesday 2/4/2003 11:36 PM -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Anyone have Eudora as their e-mail reader? Yes. As my e-mail writer too. >So I'm presuming that it's not just content, but prevalence of content that >Eudora ranks. Anyone know how this works? Nope. It seems to be somewhat random. (Note that it does its thing on outgoing e-mail as well as incoming, so you can see if you're drafting a message that doesn't meet civilized standards and adjust appropriately.) >And how many peppers are there, You got three peppers there, cowboy, out of a possible three. What do you win? Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:59:41 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] Paul Seeman's CD mix reviewed Paul sent me a nice CD which he called _29 Tunes All in a Bunch_. Here's what I think of it: The Saints "Know Your Product" - Straightforward, horn-led rock'n'roll. Good enough, but doesn't grab me really... Country Dick Montana "Hurt by Love" - Countryish rockabilly, soulful female vocals dueting with Country Dick's bottom-of-the-garbage-can baritone. Lots of fun. The Beards "True Confessions" - Snarling fuzzed out guitar solo highlights a slightly countryesque rockin putdown. Bessie Smith "Gimme a Pigfoot" - Classic '20s jazz (I believe with Louis Armstrong on trumpet) - unimpeachable An Unelected Official "State of the Union, pt. 1" - a re-edit of Bush's address, such that he tells the truth for once. The Handsome Family "Magic Balls, Introduction" - Rennie and Brett Sparks demonstrate their marriage's storytelling skills... Scud Mountain Boys "Television" - This is Joe Pernice, right? Less orchestrated than that Pernice Bros. record from a couple of years ago, which I like a lot, and yet I haven't followed up on subsequent releases. This song suggests I have no good reason for that failure - nice stuff. Unwound "Look a Ghost" - A swirling, dappled track from one of my favorite releases of...uh was that last year or 2001? Anyway, a fine, difficult-to-describe album. The Microphones "I Felt Your Shape" - Short, acoustic-based...and if I recall, utterly different from the other Mics track I have. Don't know what to make of these folks...I sorta like, but their stuff never seems to stick. The Silos "Porque No" - One of the forgotten bands that paved the way for "Americana" or whatever ya wanna call it, this is from their sole (?) major-label release. I like the rawer, more open sound of _Cuba_ better, but hey - a good track. Varttina "Fanfaari" - Please take a magic marker and place umlauts above the 'a's in the band's name. Thank you. Vocal line begins in unison, with open modal harmonies occasionally. A slightly odd meter. No idea how traditionally Finnish this is, or whether these folks are modernizing, although it certainly doesn't sound very modern. Intriguing... The Verlaines "Ready to Fly" - I like Graeme Downes' stuff, except when he succumbs to his unfortunate urges toward a sort of faux music-hall corniness (even if those tunes sometimes hold rather darker lyrics than expected). This isn't one of those, although the jazzy rhythms (a very syncopated waltz time) come close. As usual, Downes navigates his tunes through some perilous harmonic and melodic straits - not unexpected from a guy with a Ph.D. in music theory (his gig was Mahler, I believe). But fear not - this ain't no prog rock. State of the Union pt. 2 - more of the same... The Flatlanders "Bhagavad Decrees" - Oddball bluegrass - the music is played pretty straight and traditional (forchrissakes there's even a musical saw here) but the lyrics are...odd. JPP "Kalmari Special" - Paul's notes explain that this band once had forty fiddlers and a bass player (which sounds like the name of a really bad musical). This recording features nine of 'em, plus the bass player and a harmonium pumper. Almost an (American) countryish feel, like the theme for _Bonanza Goes to Finland_. Again with the odd, shifty meters; apparently the Finns enjoy making dancers fall flat on their asses. The Beards "Big Dumb World" - This one's more power-poppy than the last one by this band, more rock than pop though. I like it, although I can't say that it would end up as "favorite power pop song of the year" as Paul says it might. Hot Hot Heat "This Town" - In which folks who listened to a lot of punk rock records from the late seventies and early eighties remember two additional things they like: early seventies AM radio rock, and a jumping sense of funk. Pretty damned cool. Thee Headcoats "Art of Arse (You Be the Judge)" - Noisy, lo-fi garage rock might seem an odd vehicle for art criticism, especially when it's fairly specific (a line about Tracey Emin, one of the artists at the massively over-publicized "Sensation" series), but noisy, lo-fi garage rock works on attitude and noise, not ideas, so that odd combo doesn't matter. The Mushuganas "Wright City" - Seventy-nine seconds of raw-throated attempts to keep up with the guitarist and drummer. Fun. Melvins "The Brain Center at Whipples" - A string quartet assays an aching, melancholy line, while a children's choir sings a lovely verse about a merrily leaping puppy dog. Okay, I'm kidding: it's the Melvins. Randy Newman "Rednecks" - What's brilliant about this song is the moment non-redneck listeners, particularly east coast sophisticates, find themselves laughing superiorly at the song's titular subject, Newman twists the knife in their general direction as well. The Gourds "Up on High" - Something about this song suggests barbed wire to me... A rhythm similar to "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away," singer slightly worn about the edges, a fiddle solo, I think there's an accordion back there somewhere. John Prine "Don't Bury Me" - A slamming hip-hop beat, glossy synths, and a backing choir of divas power this one, plus a guest shot by an all-star cast of rappers. Okay, I'm kidding: it's John Prine - in this case in a livelier, country two-step mode - musically, at least. Ottopasuuna "Vartunen" - You were expecting these folks were Chinese? Yep, it's more Finns, fiddling and accordioning merrily away, with a guitar in the backdrop. What's interesting is how close in some respects this is to some Irish music (see below) but how it wouldn't be mistaken for Irish by anyone who knows that music. To some extent, you might explain it by observing that the fiddle physically encourages some musical traits by its playing techniques and arrangement of strings, but it's curious to hear the continuum of folk music from adjacent nations. (A similar observation can be made about cuisine, particularly if you, say, eat your way around the Mediterranean and then head east across the Middle East heading toward India...) State of the Union pt 3 - [rant about tax rebate checks deleted] The Handsome Family "Magic Balls, Conclusion" - Must be heard to be best appreciated... Our cats enjoyed it as well. The Handsome Family "Stupid Bells" - Ah, Christmas... The Handsome Family "Freebird" - One way to deal with the inevitable heckler... The Bothy Band "A Jig and Five Reels (Rip the Calico)" - As the title says. Energetically and engagingly played. I can only listen to so much Irish stuff until it starts sounding samey, but when it's done well I like it a lot. Thanks to Paul for an enjoyable and diverse mix of music. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: "am I being self-referential?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:55:30 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Paul Seeman's CD mix reviewed In a message dated 2/5/03 10:01:12 AM, jenor@uwm.edu writes: << Randy Newman "Rednecks" - What's brilliant about this song is the moment non-redneck listeners, particularly east coast sophisticates, find themselves laughing superiorly at the song's titular subject, Newman twists the knife in their general direction as well. >> A lesson which was sadly never learned by many people, including lily-white Patty Larkin...who's proudly based in Boston, that bastion of civil rights. Her upcoming album includes a song called "Birmingham" which ends up sounding like a Buchanan-styled rant against immigrants. She's particularly offended that former boat people are content just to have food on the table. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:39:19 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Paul Seeman's CD mix reviewed At 11:59 AM 2/5/2003 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Varttina "Fanfaari" - Please take a magic marker and place umlauts above the >'a's in the band's name. Thank you. Vocal line begins in unison, with open >modal harmonies occasionally. A slightly odd meter. No idea how >traditionally Finnish this is, or whether these folks are modernizing, >although it certainly doesn't sound very modern. Intriguing... This is from their 1992 album SELENIKO, which is fairly trad except for the fact that Varttina sing with instrumental accompaniment, which is unusual for female vocal groups in Scandinavia. Later albums are a bit poppier instrumentally, but the vocal style remains the same. >Thee Headcoats "Art of Arse (You Be the Judge)" - Noisy, lo-fi garage rock >might seem an odd vehicle for art criticism, especially when it's fairly >specific (a line about Tracey Emin, one of the artists at the massively >over-publicized "Sensation" series), but noisy, lo-fi garage rock works on >attitude and noise, not ideas, so that odd combo doesn't matter. Hint: Tracey Emin is Billy Childish's ex-girlfriend. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:57:53 -0800 (PST) From: "G. Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] self-promotion, quick redux > Ah, hi. Ease-of-use note: my new PRICE OF MILK review is right at this > link - > http://www.epinions.com/content_89068310148 > with further navigation then possible. This being-loudly-opinionated > stuff is fun; i'd forgotten. Thanks Brian! "Hey, you have the same problem with people saying 'I don't understand and you haven't told me anything useful' as I do!" "Yes..." In fairness though, Brian hasn't weighed in on THE RULES OF ATTRACTION, LOVELY & AMAZING, or THE DANGEROUS LIVES OF ALTAR BOYS. Some of which I would, presumably, have influenced him to watch. No video release yet, that I can discover, for I'M GOING HOME, the film in my 2002 Top Ten that other folks had the slimmest chance to watch. It took about two years for THE PRICE OF MILK to appear, though, so that's hope. Maybe. KILLER OF SHEEP, on the other hand, Andy "I don't know, genetically, whether or not that had something to do with what I am or who I became. I would say I'm probably relatively insane, to an extent. I take medication for schizophrenia, but I wouldn't say I'm schizophrenic. I have a bipolar personality, which is strange. I'm my own worst enemy." - --Phil Spector, from a recent interview with the "Daily Telegraph," as reported in today's Movie & TV News at the Internet Movie Database ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:50:24 -0600 From: Jack Lippold Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers I got the peppers. It's funny what will set the pepper meter off. Of course the 'f' word will rate 3 peppers, but also I got an E-mail from a friend that jokingly said that "if you lose that recipe, we will have to kill you!" That got 3 peppers as well...as it probably will on your Eudora when you read this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:54:30 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers At 07:50 PM 2/5/2003 -0600, Jack Lippold wrote: >I got the peppers. >It's funny what will set the pepper meter off. Luckily, I keep to a really really old version of Eudora -- because it's all the mail reader I need -- that's pre-peppers. This all just reminds me of the period when my best friend worked at a Baptist college and we discovered that dirty words and the like were removed from her Yahoo mail, both incoming and outgoing. The result of this discovery was that we, as you do, started talking about sex pretty much all day every day. The goal was to write the most roundabout euphemisms we could that would be readable to each other but fool the machine into letting them pass. You gotta make your own fun. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:09:48 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers Okay, what's this stuff about peppers or some sort of ratings on Eudora? One of my addresses goes to Eudora, and I don't have anything like that. I get all sorts of wild and weird stuff there, but I've never seen any kind of rating system at all. Is this something only new versions of Eudora have and mine is too old for it, or what? Jen Jack Lippold wrote: > > I got the peppers. > It's funny what will set the pepper meter off. > Of course the 'f' word will rate 3 peppers, but also I got an E-mail from a > friend that jokingly said that "if you lose that recipe, we will have to > kill you!" > That got 3 peppers as well...as it probably will on your Eudora when you > read this. - -- You can't pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you don't know where your bootstraps are. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:21:34 -0500 From: Dana Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers Okay, what's this stuff about peppers or some sort of ratings on Eudora? One of my addresses goes to Eudora, and I don't have anything like that. I get all sorts of wild and weird stuff there, but I've never seen any kind of rating system at all. Is this something only new versions of Eudora have and mine is too old for it, or what? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha. Jenny thinks she's all wild, but she doesn't even qualify for a pepper. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:26:03 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers Quoting Dana Paoli : > Okay, what's this stuff about peppers or some sort of ratings on > Eudora? One of my addresses goes to Eudora, and I don't have anything > like that. I get all sorts of wild and weird stuff there, but I've > never seen any kind of rating system at all. Is this something only new > versions of Eudora have and mine is too old for it, or what? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Ha ha. Jenny thinks she's all wild, but she doesn't even qualify for a > pepper. Fortunately, I simultaneously thought of so many inappropriate replies to this that I couldn't decide which one to post. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:41:49 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Eudora's peppers Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Quoting Dana Paoli : > > Ha ha. Jenny thinks she's all wild, but she doesn't even qualify for a > > pepper. > > Fortunately, I simultaneously thought of so many inappropriate replies to > this that I couldn't decide which one to post. Alright, you little wise-asses... Anyway, since I found Stewart's post lurking way up in my inbox above yesterday's emails (no idea why), I suspect my version of Eudora is mature enough to not need ratings (Eudora Light 3.0). Jen (who really does plan to one day update Cooledit from the '96 version) - -- You can't pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you don't know where your bootstraps are. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #37 ******************************