From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #22 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, January 23 2003 Volume 03 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] hey, do i get to play rock critic now? [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] apologies [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] apologies ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] Ed [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... [John Sharples ] Re: [loud-fans] hey, do i get to play rock critic now? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs] Re: Re: [loud-fans] Ed [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] hey, do i get to play rock critic now? [jenny grover ] [loud-fans] We wants it, my precious [Tim Walters ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:55:46 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: [loud-fans] hey, do i get to play rock critic now? First off, I want to thank he of the two F's for "World of Pain," perhaps the best Loud-fans mix I've gotten yet, and for his helpful liner notes, nice artwork, etc. Impressive all around in the packaging dept. This is a two-discer. I'll review disc one here and now. 1- Elvis Costello- "London's Brilliant Parade" Joe Jackson-esque piano intro leads into pleasant, gentle, somewhat old-school Elvis. Hooky melody. I hate to call this song "cute," but it is. 2- Airport 5- "Burns Carpenter, Man of Science" I recognized Bob Pollard's voice, which still doesn't do anything for me. Anyone for a serving of neo-post-Beatles pop hash? Inoffensive, but insubstantial and inconsequential. 3- Auto Interiors- "Cryptic Boy Non Blues" Nice chord changes and nice, but unremarkable, vocals and harmonies. What the Wondermints might sound like without their dynamic vocalist. Still, quite pleasant and I like it. 4- Beach Boys- "Girl Don't Tell Me" Dynamite! I'm so glad you put this on here, since I don't have a "real" copy of it yet. My second fave Beach Boys song, after "Wouldn't It Be Nice." Utterly charming, with a nice, minimal arrangement. I love playing this back to back to back with the Truly cover. 5- The Beatles- "Spiritual Regeneration" Wow. I had never heard this and would never have guessed it was the Beatles. Very much in Beach Boys surfin' style. Recorded in India, from a bootleg. Morph's into a birthday tribute to Mike Love. 6- David Bowie- "Slow Burn" Sort of post-Bowie Bowie. Hearkens back to some of his heavier (in mood) 80's stuff. At times that searing lead guitar seems a little overbearing. 7- The Comas- "Tiger in a Tower" Best Comas song I've heard yet. I like the tune. Pleasant Valium-pop with an almost Beatley feel toward the end. 8- Creeper Lagoon- "Lovers Leap" A sort of cross between David Bowie and Dark Fantastic. 9- Firewater- "Psychopharmacology" Hey, psychopharmacology works for me! Sounds like this guy needs a new p-doc. 10- Mickey Hampshire and the Masonics- "Silently By Night" This does indeed sound like late 60's proto-punk garage, even down to the thin production! I would never have known it wasn't, but for Jeff's liner notes. I really like this! 11- He Said- "Flagwearing" When this album came out, I knew I had to get my grubby mitts on it. I still really like it. Very much up my alley in that mid 80's experimental sample and impending disaster way. 12- Idlewild- "Roseability" Generic indie pop/rock. 13- Interpol- "Untitled" I need to get this album. I like everything I've heard off it so far. 14- Lockgroove- "Engine Drone" This just keeps going in one ear and out the other. 15- Macha Loved Bedhead- "Hey Goodbye" My fave off this album. Dreamy, delightful musical Valium. I like to put this and "Never Underdose" on repeat and get lost in them. 16- Maki- "Little Widow" The vocals remind me of someone (other than Tim Buckley) but I can't put my finger on who. A little too generic indie pop/rock for me. That two chord strummed riff thing has just been done to death. In fact, I may have to take some friends' bands to task for this very thing. 17- Momus- "The Cabinet of Kuniyoshi Kaneko" Whispery half-spoken vocals and a narrative style that makes me think of Al Stewart. 18- Not From There- "Juanita's Cocktail Party" Bit of a jarring transition from the last track. Somewhat manic, out of breath vocals in the verses, interspersed with slower, spacing-out feeling choruses. Drifts with a psychedelic sensibility (though not stylistically) through an odd midsection. Guitar-oriented, overall. I really, really like this. This may be the "find of the mix" for me. Tell me more about this band, and if this song is typical of them. Disc two coming soon to a mailing list near you. Jen - -- You can't pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you don't know where your bootstraps are. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:09:00 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] Ed Despite a run of "Very Special ED" episodes a couple of months ago (though I can forgive one Very Special plotline, since the cast member had appearance-altering surgery, and the writers decided that the most natural solution would be to have his character undergo the same surgery) and the continuing dismalness of any plot involving Warren Cheswick, I think this season of ED has been a huge recovery from Season 2. The bad new theme is gone (and the Foo Fighters theme is back!), the intrusive incidental music is gone, Darryl "Chill" Mitchell is on board, and they very well might have gotten past the Ed-Carol plot that often threatens to choke the life out of the show. I make no promises for tonight's show, but the last couple have been as good as the best of the first season. Last week's in particular was great, showing off new cast acquisition Sabrina Lloyd (yes, the SPORTS NIGHT brunette cutie) to full effect, while marking the welcome return of the tart-tongued Dr. Jerome, who delivers writer/comedian Drake Sather's elaborate insults with fiendish joy. BUFFY/ANGEL fans: don't forget that ANGEL is on Wednesdays now. Tonight, the return of Electric Girl! bzzzzzzzzt indeed! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:39:04 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] apologies At Wednesday 1/22/2003 11:15 AM -0500, Aaron Mandel wrote: >Not sure what you mean by "Homophobia Nation" -- who cares what he's a >spokesperson for? Let's just say it was an ersatz allusion to Lolita Nation that fell flat, and leave it at that... >I have to say, there were lots of obnoxious little bits on this particular >topic in Harrington's article, and I picked the one I did for a reason. >When someone calls eBay "eGay", it makes me suspect they're a jerk but, >you know, I'm not always in the mood to debate the effect of indirect >homophobia and so on. If you translate the "eGay" comment it really just >means "I don't like eBay". Fine. I'm guessing that's not a specific example from the Harrington article (since I couldn't find it), and more of a general example. If so, point taken. >On the other hand, the comment about Michael Stipe was directly homophobic >-- actually a pretty rare thing in the entertainment press. His point was >specifically that queer people are inferior. I'm glad I didn't get a chance to reply to this during the day, since others have since said what I would've said, but in a better way. My reaction to this statement was "Huh?" - I thought there was some other reference to Stipe in the article that I must've missed. I just didn't interpret his (weird but humorous) comment that way. >I'm sure he was trying to be >funny, but he also seems to have *meant* it; he expands on his point, and >seems to hold the boy-girl aspect of LN's songs up as one of its real >virtues. I tell ya, it's going to make me listen to LN with new ears the next time. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:02:29 -0500 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] apologies >>When someone calls eBay "eGay", >I'm guessing that's not a specific example from the Harrington article >(since I couldn't find it), and more of a general example. If so, point >taken. No, it was in the article. He mentioned it as a way of explaining how rare and expensive the LN CD is. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:38:04 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Ed At 05:09 PM 1/22/2003 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >I make no promises for tonight's show, but the last couple have been as >good as the best of the first season. Last week's in particular was great, >showing off new cast acquisition Sabrina Lloyd (yes, the SPORTS NIGHT >brunette cutie) to full effect Two weeks in a row now, I keep expecting her credit to read "Guest starring Sabrina Lloyd as Lorelai Gilmore." Same hair, same clothes, same vocal inflections, same hand gestures, same mannerisms, probably the same position on ketchup on hot dogs. Which is the right one, which is that it's gross and evil. Anyway, Amy Sherman-Palladino could sue. S NP: "Movie For A Rained-Out Ballgame" -- The Hushdrops (from the belated mix CD(s) I'm reviewing before I mail it out to Matt Weber tomorrow) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:41:17 -0500 From: John Sharples Subject: Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... Quoting Dan Sallitt : > I've heard a rumor that Mr. Sharples is working 72 hours a week at his > new job, and probably working on his Feb. 22 George Harrison tribute in > his copious spare time. - Dan True, and my home computer is broken, so I only check email a couple of times a week - at 10:30 at night in the law school computer lab! cheers! JS PS yeah 2nd Annual George Harr-A-Thon Tribute, Benefit for Arthur Ashe Urban Health Institute, Feb 22, 9pm, at Freddy's, Dean St & 6th Ave, Brooklyn. Email off-list for details - ------------------------------- This mail sent through Brooklyn Law School WebMail http://www.brooklaw.edu/webmail - ------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:22:44 -0500 From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] movie review as excuse (ns) I don't really have anything much to say, but I wanted to let Michael know that his stinky mailer demon is telling me: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at m1.nyc.untd.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. I've never gotten such a polite demon before. We just finished watching Tadpole, and didn't like it too much, though it had a couple of moments. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:37:17 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hey, do i get to play rock critic now? Quoting jenny grover : > First off, I want to thank he of the two F's for "World of Pain," > perhaps the best Loud-fans mix I've gotten yet, and for his helpful > liner notes, nice artwork, etc. Impressive all around in the packaging > dept. And thank you for the kind words! > 14- Lockgroove- "Engine Drone" > This just keeps going in one ear and out the other. For some reason, I thought this one was right up your alley. Apparently, it got lost and drove up some other one. > 18- Not From There- "Juanita's Cocktail Party" > Bit of a jarring transition from the last track. Somewhat manic, out > of > breath vocals in the verses, interspersed with slower, spacing-out > feeling choruses. Drifts with a psychedelic sensibility (though not > stylistically) through an odd midsection. Guitar-oriented, overall. I > really, really like this. This may be the "find of the mix" for me. > Tell me more about this band, and if this song is typical of them. I know very little about them. This one showed up in my review pile four years back, with no real info. AMG is pretty unhelpful except for some biographical details (Australians in England, deported back to Australia; Austrian singer, deported back to Austria). Epitonic mentions, along with the obvious Sonic Youth, the Fall (maybe), Girls Against Boys (to the extent that *that* band sounds sorta Fall-esque), Slint (?), and Mudhoney (another of your faves, no?). They have two MP3s there as well. Googling brings up a number of pages (which, of course, anyone here can do). This is probably the best track on the LP: several others are pretty good, nothing seems to suck outright (I just relistened to it an hour ago), but a lot of slow, moody tracks in a row near the end bog the thing down a bit. But I'd say if you like this, you'll probably like the rest. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:40:58 -0600 (CST) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Re: [loud-fans] Ed C'mon, Stewart, Amy Sheridan-Palladino didn't hang the sun and moon. There have been plenty of talkative, antsy, quirky, intelligent females on TV before. Here are some off the top of my head: Mary Richards, Molly Dodd, Diane Chambers, Angela Chase, Elaine Benes, Willow Rosenberg, heck, even Miss DiPesto and Edith Prickley. And, oh yeah, the two female leads on SPORTS NIGHT, which include Ms. Lloyd's previous prominent TV character. So maybe the makers of ED ought to be paying royalties to Aaron Sorkin, or maybe the Sheridan-Palladinos should be paying royalties to Grant Tinker and Mary Tyler Moore. I didn't enjoy tonight's ED so much, FWIW. But not because I kept thinking "GILMORE GIRLS!" at last, a show that speaks to me, Miles - -------Original Message------- From: Stewart Mason Sent: 01/22/03 09:38 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Ed > > At 05:09 PM 1/22/2003 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >I make no promises for tonight's show, but the last couple have been as >good as the best of the first season. Last week's in particular was great, >showing off new cast acquisition Sabrina Lloyd (yes, the SPORTS NIGHT >brunette cutie) to full effect Two weeks in a row now, I keep expecting her credit to read "Guest starring Sabrina Lloyd as Lorelai Gilmore." Same hair, same clothes, same vocal inflections, same hand gestures, same mannerisms, probably the same position on ketchup on hot dogs. Which is the right one, which is that it's gross and evil. Anyway, Amy Sherman-Palladino could sue. S NP: "Movie For A Rained-Out Ballgame" -- The Hushdrops (from the belated mix CD(s) I'm reviewing before I mail it out to Matt Weber tomorrow) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:53:46 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... >> I've heard a rumor that Mr. Sharples is working 72 hours a week at his >> new job, and probably working on his Feb. 22 George Harrison tribute in >> his copious spare time. - Dan > > >True, and my home computer is broken, so I only check email a couple of times >a week - at 10:30 at night in the law school computer lab! Right, so I'll expect your in-depth reviews of my Top 8 2002 vis-a-vis the "Resolved: New Music Sucks" conundrum, no later than...oh, Valentine's Day. Nice even-numbered day. Tapping the desk edge impatiently with my ruler, Andy MADRID, Spain - Imagine the human genome as music. Unravel DNA's double helix, picture its components lined up like piano keys and assign a note to each. Run your finger along the keys. Spanish scientists did that just for fun and recorded what they call an audio version of the blueprint for life. The team at Madrid's Ramon y Cajal Hospital was intrigued by music's lure  how it can make toddlers dance and adults cry  and looked for hints in the genetic material that makes us what we are. They also had some microbial genes wax melodic. The end product is "Genoma Music," a 10-tune CD due out in February. "It's a way to bring science and music closer together," said Dr. Aurora Sanchez Sousa, a piano-playing microbiologist who specializes in fungi. DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is composed of long strings of molecules called nucleotides, which are distinguished by which of four nitrogen-containing bases they contain: adenine, guanine, thymine or cytosine, represented as A, G, T and C. These became the musical notes. French-born composer Richard Krull turned DNA sequences  a snippet of a gene might look like AGCGTATACGAGT  into sheet music. He arbitrarily assigned tones of the eight-note, do-re-mi scale to each letter. Thymine became re, for instance. Guanine is so, adenine la and cytosine do. Played solo on percussion, classical guitar or the other instruments used on the CD, the sequences would sound cute but rudimentary, the musical equivalent of PacMan in an era of Microsoft Xbox. So the alphabet soup of bases served as just that, base lines to accompany melodies composed by Krull and his scientific colleague. They say the melodies were influenced, even dictated, by the mood and rhythm of the underlying genetic code. In general, the genome music is an easy-listening sound that is vaguely New Age. One of the prettiest songs is based on Connexin 26, a human gene that causes deafness when it mutates. The DNA skeleton is expressed with tinkling bells and a flute melody does the rest. Another song draws on a yeast gene known as SLT2. Sanchez Sousa, the main author of the project, is fond of the sequence because it features a stretch in which one triplet of nitrogen bases appears several times in rapid succession  a repetitive phenomenon that has a musical equivalent called obstinato. "This is a very sad part, but a beautiful one," Sanchez Sousa said, wearing a white lab coat and waving her arms like a musical conductor as she played the segment for a visitor. She declined to discuss marketing plans for the CD. She said she's circulated it only among academics so far, and psychologists in particular find it relaxing. Her team's plans for future music include having the hospital choir sing a vocal piece based on DNA from a bacteria. Seeking music in nature goes way back. In the 6th century B.C., the Greek philosopher and mathematician Pythagoras argued that celestial bodies in rotation gave off pitched sounds that blended into a beautiful harmony he called "the music of the spheres." The idea is that matter and its behavior_ wheat fields shimmering and tongues of fire dancing  may hold something intrinsic that can be transformed into music, said Dr. Fernando Baquero, head of microbiology at Ramon y Cajal Hospital. Maybe that's why people like music: It's already inside them anyway, so hearing it touches a piece of them, Baquero said. "When we like something, it is because we recognize it," he said. "It's funny, but to like is to recognize." [--article by Daniel Woolls, Associated Press, from last Sunday] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:04:36 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... Quoting Andrew Hamlin : > MADRID, Spain - Imagine the human genome as music. Unravel DNA's double > helix, picture its components lined up like piano keys and assign a note > to > each. Run your finger along the keys. > > Spanish scientists did that just for fun and recorded what they call an > audio version of the blueprint for life. > He arbitrarily > assigned tones of the eight-note, do-re-mi scale to each letter. > Thymine > became re, for instance. Guanine is so, adenine la and cytosine do. > > In general, the genome music is an easy-listening sound that is vaguely > New Age. Well, duh: given those note assignments, it could hardly be anything but! Squeeze everything into a major scale (hell, only four notes of a jive pentatonic scale: think the black notes on the piano) and you're well on the way to convincing the gullible that "nature" is all harmonious and pretty. They could have translated some complex biological characteristics into wavelengths and come up with something brutally discordant. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:14:11 -0800 From: *THAT* Matt Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... At 11:04 PM -0600 1/22/03, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Quoting Andrew Hamlin : > > > MADRID, Spain - Imagine the human genome as music. Unravel DNA's double > > helix, picture its components lined up like piano keys and assign a note > > to > > each. Run your finger along the keys. > > > > Spanish scientists did that just for fun and recorded what they call an > > audio version of the blueprint for life. > > > He arbitrarily > > assigned tones of the eight-note, do-re-mi scale to each letter. > > Thymine > > became re, for instance. Guanine is so, adenine la and cytosine do. > > > > In general, the genome music is an easy-listening sound that is vaguely > > New Age. > >Well, duh: given those note assignments, it could hardly be anything but! >Squeeze everything into a major scale (hell, only four notes of a jive >pentatonic scale: think the black notes on the piano) and you're well on >the way to convincing the gullible that "nature" is all harmonious and >pretty. They could have translated some complex biological characteristics >into wavelengths and come up with something brutally discordant. Jeff beat me to the punch, but I'd like to point out the following: the "do-re-mi" (us musicians call it diatonic) scale is *seven* notes, not eight; and of course any aimless noodling on that scale will sound just like New Age music, because that's what New Age music *is*. It would have made much more sense for them to have divided the octave more or less evenly in quarters, which would have outlined a diminished seventh chord (0, 3, 6, 9). Or I suppose they could have used the first 4 notes of the octatonic collection and the genome would have sounded like Stravinsky. Matt Weep you no more, sad fountains; What need you flow so fast? Songs set by John Dowland, Oxford Book of 16th Cent. Verse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:19:19 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Ed At Wednesday 1/22/2003 11:40 PM -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >I didn't enjoy tonight's ED so much, FWIW. But not because I kept >thinking "GILMORE GIRLS!" What's "Gilmore Girls"? I think they need to give spunky young Frankie (from Sliders) more to do than just be Ed's sidekick (Ed Jr?). Maybe they're working up to it. Can't wait to see what happens with Mark post-surgery. Supposedly the actor has lost over 100 pounds so far. As for the return of Electric Girl on Angel - I think she really needs a cape and a mask to go with the spandex and the Bride of Frankenstein hair. Did I mention that I'm smitten? I guess they had to up the sex quotient since Charisma has started wearing the Big Jackets to hide the obvious pregnancy. And now it's time to roll out the ol' Moment of True Happiness. Best line (paraphrased, since I can't remember it exactly): "Is my Origin Story boring you?" Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:26:32 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hey, do i get to play rock critic now? Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Quoting jenny grover : > > 18- Not From There- "Juanita's Cocktail Party" > > Epitonic mentions, along with > the obvious Sonic Youth, the Fall (maybe), Girls Against Boys (to the > extent that *that* band sounds sorta Fall-esque), Slint (?), and Mudhoney > (another of your faves, no?). Actually, those are all faves, except maybe GvsB, but I have one album by them that's alright. Friend told me it's the only good one, though. We don't always agree, so he may be wrong there. Slint...hmmm... still thinking about that. Not this song, that I would have noticed. Maybe some of the slower ones you mentioned. Thanks for the info! I'll have to check out those MP3's and look into maybe acquiring this. Jen - -- You can't pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you don't know where your bootstraps are. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:28:12 -0800 From: Tim Walters Subject: Re: [loud-fans] it's come to this... Somebody did this about ten or fifteen years ago with a different mapping, and it came out sounding like bad Baroque. And then there's "the world's only internationally known astrophysicist/rock star," Dr. Buckaroo Banzai (whoops, I mean Dr. Fiorella Terenzi): http://www.fiorella.com Oh, and THE MOUNT was excellent, though not quite as brilliant as THE START OF THE END OF IT ALL. - -- Free Exquisite Music : The Doubtful Palace : http://www.doubtfulpalace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:29:27 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Ed Quoting Roger Winston : > As for the return of Electric Girl on Angel - I think she really needs a > cape and a mask to go with the spandex and the Bride of Frankenstein > hair. Did I mention that I'm smitten? I guess they had to up the sex > quotient since Charisma has started wearing the Big Jackets to hide the > obvious pregnancy. Yep...the black wardrobe, the filming from the neck up...it's Season 2 Scully all over again. (Geek Check: I didn't see if that's the right season...someone will call me on it if not, no doubt.) > Best line (paraphrased, since I can't remember it exactly): "Is my > Origin > Story boring you?" Second best: Shlubby God-Guardian asking if he can persuade EG re lap-dance (in-joke...since what was EG doing when we first met her? Dancin' for Dollars...) One last comment re Harrington, about Dana's comment: I didn't say "original," I said "having balls." And yes, having a surprise (out of expected genre) no. 1 is common enough...but if it's that common, it's no longer a surprise, is it. I still think an awful lot of cred-checkers would rule Steely Dan out of court. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: "Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!" :: lp: MP3, Leonard Nimoy "Bilbo Baggins" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:32:36 -0800 From: Tim Walters Subject: [loud-fans] We wants it, my precious >lp: MP3, Leonard Nimoy "Bilbo Baggins" Dude, you need the video version. I know it's out there somewhere. - -- Free Exquisite Music : The Doubtful Palace : http://www.doubtfulpalace.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:13:02 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Re: [loud-fans] Ed Yeesh. I'm just reporting the reaction that occurred not just to me, but to the other three people in the room when we were watching last week's episode. Had I known it would cause such grave offense, I wouldn't have said anything. I'm just going to stand over here now... S NP: "Further Afield/Carmoon" -- Delicate AWOL (still on the belated Matt Weber discs, guaranteed to be One Of Those Bands Miles Wouldn't Like) At 11:40 PM 1/22/2003 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >C'mon, Stewart, Amy Sheridan-Palladino didn't hang the sun and moon. There have been plenty of talkative, antsy, quirky, intelligent females on TV before. Here are some off the top of my head: Mary Richards, Molly Dodd, Diane Chambers, Angela Chase, Elaine Benes, Willow Rosenberg, heck, even Miss DiPesto and Edith Prickley. And, oh yeah, the two female leads on SPORTS NIGHT, which include Ms. Lloyd's previous prominent TV character. So maybe the makers of ED ought to be paying royalties to Aaron Sorkin, or maybe the Sheridan-Palladinos should be paying royalties to Grant Tinker and Mary Tyler Moore. > >I didn't enjoy tonight's ED so much, FWIW. But not because I kept thinking "GILMORE GIRLS!" > >at last, a show that speaks to me, > >Miles > >-------Original Message------- >From: Stewart Mason >Sent: 01/22/03 09:38 PM >To: loud-fans@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Ed > >> >> At 05:09 PM 1/22/2003 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >>I make no promises for tonight's show, but the last couple have been as >>good as the best of the first season. Last week's in particular was >great, >>showing off new cast acquisition Sabrina Lloyd (yes, the SPORTS NIGHT >>brunette cutie) to full effect > >Two weeks in a row now, I keep expecting her credit to read "Guest >starring >Sabrina Lloyd as Lorelai Gilmore." Same hair, same clothes, same vocal >inflections, same hand gestures, same mannerisms, probably the same >position on ketchup on hot dogs. Which is the right one, which is that >it's gross and evil. Anyway, Amy Sherman-Palladino could sue. > >S > >NP: "Movie For A Rained-Out Ballgame" -- The Hushdrops (from the belated >mix CD(s) I'm reviewing before I mail it out to Matt Weber tomorrow) ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #22 ******************************