From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #423 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, December 9 2002 Volume 02 : Number 423 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link ["Paul King" ] Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link ["Paul King" ] Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link (fwd) [Tim_Pintsch ] Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link [Stewart Mason ] [loud-fans] Hypocrite Henly [Michael Mitton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 05:01:27 -0500 From: "Paul King" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link
> > > This one "about" misused quotation marks.
> > > http://www.juvalamu.com/qmarks/
> >

Reminds me of a Dave Barry quote:

Dear Mister Language Person: What is the purpose of the apostrophe?

Answer: The apostrophe is used mainly in hand-lettered small business signs to alert the reader than an "S" is coming up at the end of a word, as in: WE DO NOT EXCEPT PERSONAL CHECK'S, or: NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ITEM'S. Another important grammar concept to bear in mind when creating hand- lettered small-business signs is that you should put quotation marks around random words for decoration, as in "TRY" OUR HOT DOG'S, or even TRY "OUR" HOT DOG'S. -- Dave Barry, "Tips for Writer's"

There was once a 8-foot tall sign I saw while travelling, seen at a place called Piper's Discount, in 18-inch bold lettering:

    WE WAN'T TO SAVE YOU MONEY

So, I guess the apostrophe can also be used before words ending in the letter "T". These were not hand-lettered signs; they were commercially done. The letters were too well-formed to be hand-lettered.

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> > A business near my home has a sign that advertises
> > their service.  It reads:
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> > TRUCK LETTRING
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------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 05:44:01 -0500 From: "Paul King" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link My apologies for the lousy formatting of the last email. Not sure how that happened. Hopefully, this one will turn out better: Reminds me of a Dave Barry quote: Dear Mister Language Person: What is the purpose of the apostrophe? Answer: The apostrophe is used mainly in hand-lettered small business signs to alert the reader than an "S" is coming up at the end of a word, as in: WE DO NOT EXCEPT PERSONAL CHECK'S, or: NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ITEM'S. Another important grammar concept to bear in mind when creating hand- lettered small-business signs is that you should put quotation marks around random words for decoration, as in "TRY" OUR HOT DOG'S, or even TRY "OUR" HOT DOG'S. -- Dave Barry, "Tips for Writer's" There was once a 8-foot tall sign I saw while travelling, seen at a place called Piper's Discount, in 18-inch bold lettering: WE WAN'T TO SAVE YOU MONEY So, I guess the apostrophe can also be used before words ending in the letter "T". These were not hand-lettered signs; they were commercially done. The letters were too well-formed to be hand- lettered. Date sent: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link To: John Sharples , loud- fans@smoe.org > Not really related to misused quotation marks, but > back in the 80's, a friend of mine had his band pose > for a photo in front of a barbeque joint whose sign > read: You Don't Need No Teef > To Eat Our Beef > Gil > --- John Sharples wrote: > > Quoting Carolyn Dorsey : > > > > > This one "about" misused quotation marks. > > > http://www.juvalamu.com/qmarks/ > > > > > > A business near my home has a sign that advertises > > their service. It reads: > > > > > > TRUCK LETTRING > > > > > > I swear I'm not making this up. > > > > > > JS > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > This mail sent through > > Brooklyn Law School WebMail > > http://www.brooklaw.edu/webmail > > ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com =========================================== Paul King Oakville, ON ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:28:15 -0600 (CST) From: Tim_Pintsch Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link (fwd) There was recently a billboard here in Chicago which read: This is John. He works for NTB (National Tire and Battery). He's just spending some time with his little brown friends. (It showed a picture of a man in overalls sitting on a tire.) It was only up for 3 days... Sorry, closet Beavis fan here. Be well, tim. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:34:04 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] another music industry story (Bill Nelson) At Sunday 12/8/2002 01:15 AM -0600, steve wrote: >I wouldn't say it's affected his music making, but I would say that it has >prevented him from making albums with other musicians in professional studios. To me, it's the same thing. Sure, he's incredibly prolific with his solo DIY stuff, but to me it's the band/studio setting where he really shines. I long for those days of yore. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:46:12 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] industry accounting Jeff (i think it was Jeff) made the point that a contract prvision that limited who could audit the execution of a contract would not be acceptable as a standard business practice in other industries, but that is precislely the reason a number of groups are lobbying to change music contracting practices. if you get the right person at a small table after a few drinks, he will admit to you, off the record, that the whole point was originally to bilk artists who weren't necessarily literate, let alone conversant with contract law, out of their due. but, while he abhors the practice, he will tell you that his label can't change its policies unless the other labels do too, because they would be giving up a competitive advantage. the other real problem, is that, as an artist, it is extraordinarily difficult to get legal represenation that is competent and uncompromised in matters against a label. the folks who would know best how to attack the label contracts are usually paid primarily by the labels; they have a goose-golden egg problem. hey, amy and i saw _spirited away_ yesterday. thumbs up from both of us is the short version; i'll prolly write about it this week. some of my favorite signs lately have included: COFFEE SUSHI SANDWICHES and big posters on the windows of a closed bank that read "This glass is the only thing between you and a trip to Florida." I thought "BAREFOOT SHOES" was kinda weird and self-defeating, but I've been informed it's actually a great place. - -- d. http://www.fecklessbeast.com ~~ angst! guilt! fear! betrayal! less feck, more beast -- debut CD shipping now 1220 L st NW suite 100 #290 wash dc 20005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:01:06 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link >Not really related to misused quotation marks, but >back in the 80's, a friend of mine had his band pose >for a photo in front of a barbeque joint whose sign >read: You Don't Need No Teef > To Eat Our Beef Maybe that was Mr. Jim's barbecue place, 54th and Vermont St. in L.A., it says here: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3956 Though note that Honey Bear's BBQ in Phoenix (two locations to serve you) uses practically the same slogan, substituting "meat" for "beef." Though so far as BBQ goes, I'd like you all to come up here to Dixie's in Bellevue, so you can meet "The Man." Wondering if Stewart ever patronized the El Borracho Liquor Store...or the Ernie Pyle Memorial Library, Andy "I have no home. My home is where my extra luggage is, and where the car is stopped, and where I happen to be getting mail this time. My home is America." - --Ernie Pyle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:22:00 -0500 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link On my drive down to North Carolina for the family Thanksgiving pig-picking, I saw three signs that merited a double-take. There was the sign advertising the DECOY MUSEUM in Havre De Grace, MD. I figured they put it there so some NRA guys could pick off some of them National Endowment for the Arts types. Outside of Smithfield, NC, there was a sign for the BIBLE FACTORY OUTLET. I like this even better than the sign for the Art Factory Outlet I occasionally see on Route 17 in New Jersey. The best, though, was just outside of Rocky Mount, NC. It just proves that even though undertaking is a dignified profession, you shouldn't necessarily use your family name in the business. The sign read: BOWLING FUNERAL HOME & CREMATORY MB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:11:20 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yet another link At 11:01 AM 12/8/2002 -0800, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >>Not really related to misused quotation marks, but >>back in the 80's, a friend of mine had his band pose >>for a photo in front of a barbeque joint whose sign >>read: You Don't Need No Teef >> To Eat Our Beef > >Though note that Honey Bear's BBQ in Phoenix (two locations to serve you) >uses practically the same slogan, substituting "meat" for "beef." Wouldn't that make the slogan "You don't neeed no teat..." >Wondering if Stewart ever patronized the El Borracho Liquor Store...or the >Ernie Pyle Memorial Library, Suitable though such a name would be for a liquor store, I never heard of it. My own booze was largely bought at the goofily-named Jubilation Wine and Spirits, because it was nearby and they carried a shitload of Belgian Trappist ales. The Ernie Pyle, however, was my neighborhood library, located about six blocks from my apartment, in Mr. Pyle's boyhood home. Changing the subject, I'm belatedly joining the 20th century and buying a pair of cellphones, mostly for those times when I'm supposed to pick Charity up at work but there's a dead bus in the middle of Mass Ave next to Symphony Hall that's created a traffic jam all the way into Cambridge. Virgin Mobile, besides creating the single weirdest ad campaign I have ever seen, has finally put into practice the cellphone plan I have been saying all along would make the most sense for people like me who actively dislike the telephone and therefore use it only when absolutely necessary: VM's phones are basically a cellphone and pre-paid phone card in one, with no monthly charges, taxes or fees other than 25 cents per minute for outgoing calls. Given that these are phones that are going to be used for a total of about five to ten minutes a week at most, it just doesn't make sense to pay a monthly fee of 20-something bucks. Anyway, anyone here (including our UK friends) use Virgin Mobile? I'm just wondering about quality of service and that sort of thing. Stewart NP: RIDDLE ME THIS -- Jean Ritchie and Oscar Brand ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:47:49 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Mitton Subject: [loud-fans] Hypocrite Henly Since royalties are currently in discussion, here's a summary of an article from the LA Times: An LAT business piece checks in on a nasty legal fight brewing between singer Don Henley and former Eagles band mate Don Felder. Henley has long been an outspoken critic of record companies in the battle over musician royalties. Yet, Henley is being accused of cheating Felder out of millions of dollars in album and concert profits. "It is absolutely the height of hypocrisy for him to attempt to reinvent himself as the champion for artists' rights," Felder says. You can read the whole piece at the LA Times if you'd like, but I don't have a direct link since it requires a (free) registration to see the article. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:49:42 -0800 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: [loud-fans] chat? irc.eskimo.com #loudfans last played: Kate and Anna McGarrigle, Heartbeats Accelerating - -------------------------------------- Michael J. Zwirn http://zwirn.com michael@zwirn.com Home: 503/232-8919 Cell: 503/887-9800 ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #423 *******************************