From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #401 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, November 19 2002 Volume 02 : Number 401 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Scott's Show [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] Leonid Meteor Shower ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] Scott's Show ["me" ] [loud-fans] Another holiday favorite ruined ["Tim Walters" ] Re: [loud-fans] Scott's Show [John Sharples ] [loud-fans] great moments in trademark history ["Brian Block" ] [loud-fans] movie advice ["me" ] [loud-fans] mysterious! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:08:34 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: [loud-fans] Scott's Show So is anyone going to see Scott open for Aimee Mann on Wednesday night in SF? If so, please give a full report. I'm curious as to what a solo Scott set consists of these days - songs that will be on the Aimee-funded solo album he's doing? I'm glad to see that new fatherhood is not preventing Scott from getting out and playing once in a while. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:15:24 -0800 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Leonid Meteor Shower and for all you folks who might be under cloud cover, you can listen to the Leonids on the radio, and possibly see them on TV. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/space/20021115/sc_space/list en_to_the_leonids&e=1 http://www.space.com/leonids/ brianna - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Mitton" Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: [loud-fans] Leonid Meteor Shower > As a reminder of something which has come up on list before, the Leonid > Metero Shower takes place from Monday night to Tuesday morning. I stayed > out last year, and it was definitely worth freezing my ass off. Anyway, > there are folks on list who know more about this than me, so I leave you > with some words from one of them: > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Dan Sallitt wrote: > > > As for the Leonids, this is the last year in our lifetimes that they are > > expected to be a supershower. The storm will only last a few hours - it > > all happens on the morning of Tuesday, November 19 near 2:30 am PST, > > 5:30 am EST. (Which means observers in the western US are favored over > > those in the the eastern US, and the UK won't see this one.) Estimates > > range from 10000 to 30000 an hour! The full moon will hurt observation, > > but even so, this is probably the most meteor activity that any of us > > will ever see. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:16:15 -0800 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scott's Show i'll be there. i don't do set lists, since it just distracts me from the show, but i'll let you know how it was. - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Winston" To: "loud family is the aftermath" Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:08 AM Subject: [loud-fans] Scott's Show > So is anyone going to see Scott open for Aimee Mann on Wednesday night in > SF? If so, please give a full report. I'm curious as to what a solo Scott > set consists of these days - songs that will be on the Aimee-funded solo > album he's doing? > > I'm glad to see that new fatherhood is not preventing Scott from getting > out and playing once in a while. > > Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: [loud-fans] Another holiday favorite ruined The holiday season is bearing down on us like a Mack truck--in fact, I can see the whites of the bulldog's eyes--and you know what that means: more Christmas music from Tim. This year's model (entitled "Entsprungen") is a short, technophilic, instrumental version of "Lo, How A Rose E'er Blooming," and can be found here: http://www.doubtfulpalace.com/artists/Slaw/entsprungen.mp3 I hope this is in time for your holiday mix tapes! - -- SLAW * SNAKES & LADDERS Experimental popular children's music for adults http://www.doubtfulpalace.com/artists/Slaw ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:22:30 -0800 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scott's Show Roger Winston wrote: > So is anyone going to see Scott open for Aimee Mann on Wednesday night > in SF? Damn - did I miss some email? I had no idea this was happening. Would've loved to go, but in the meantime I've scheduled three round trips to LA within one week and, even though SF would be a nice change of scenery, I don't think my old car or my old body can deal with a 4th 500-mile round trip. Oh, and in the "better late than never, or perhaps never would have sufficed" department, I've finally figured out who should play me in the movie - Laura Kightlinger. E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:20:01 -0500 From: John Sharples Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scott's Show Quoting Elizabeth Brion : > Oh, and in the "better late than never, or perhaps never would have > sufficed" department, I've finally figured out who should play me in the > movie - Laura Kightlinger. Two "better late than never" add-ons from me: Janet I-D should definitely be played by the gal from THAT 70s SHOW, and how did I ever leave Carrie-Ann Moss off my all-time top five? JS - ------------------------------- This mail sent through Brooklyn Law School WebMail http://www.brooklaw.edu/webmail - ------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:34:04 +0000 From: "Brian Block" Subject: [loud-fans] great moments in trademark history Presenting y'all with a story from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution: WILL THE REAL BILL WYMAN PLEASE TUNE UP? Bill Wyman - Staff Thursday, November 14, 2002 No journalist likes to get a letter threatening legal action, particularly one on creamy watermarked stationery bearing the imprint of a swanky Park Avenue law firm. "It has come to our and our client's attention . . ." ". . . seriously misleading . . . unauthorized . . ." ". . . cease and desist . . ." ". . . your course of conduct . . ." ". . . the commencement of legal proceedings . . ." The author was Howard Siegel, of Pryor Cashman Sherman & Flynn, of New York City. As I read Siegel's letter more closely, I was shocked to see that the "cease and desist" part had to do with me using . . . My own name? I've always felt a sort of bond with Bill Wyman, the former bassist of the Rolling Stones, despite his tendency to view his life through a somewhat narrow lens. A hefty chunk of his nearly 600-page autobiography, "Stone Alone," might be paraphrased thusly: Wednesday: Played a gig, made 20 pounds, met a nice bird, had a nice night together. Thursday: Good gig, four pounds ten, met two nice birds . . . I've been a pop music writer for more than 20 years. I wrote my first review of a Rolling Stones concert in 1981. I went on to cover the band's tours in 1989, 1994 and 1997. I've been granted tickets by the group's efficient publicists with no problems, often with entree to the Stones' lavish hospitality besides. I remember scarfing up some food next to Keith Richards backstage at a shed in the middle of Wisconsin, with no legal repercussions. The only time my life and Wyman's have really intersected was 10 years or so ago in Chicago, when, out of the blue, I began receiving checks in the mail every four or five days. They were for odd, small amounts, like $32.61. They were made out to me, had my Social Security number, and bore the return address of a company with a curiously low public profile. At the time it was a mystery, and it took some digging to discover they were residual checks to Wyman for reruns of odd TV appearances the Stones had made. (I was a member of the radio and television union at the time; that's how the wires had gotten crossed.) I gave the checks back. Siegel represents Wyman, who left the band in 1993. The attorney had happened to see a short article I'd written about some old Rolling Stones albums as part of the Journal-Constitution's coverage of the band's recent appearance in town. He wasted no time in firing off a letter. "I must ask that you immediately cease and desist from authorizing or permitting any such use of our client's name," he wrote. Siegel magnanimously allowed that I could continue to use my own name if I could prove that I had come by it legally, and if I added a disclaimer to everything I wrote in the future, "clearly indicating that [you are] not the same Bill Wyman who was a member of the Rolling Stones." I wondered if Wyman and his lawyers would endorse "Not That" Bill Wyman as an acceptable byline. I resigned myself to this eventuality. After all, it was the musician's name first (he's a lot older than I am, certainly, and perhaps more famous), and . . . But then I remembered. Bill Wyman the Rolling Stone wasn't born Bill Wyman. His real name, Stones fans know, is William George Perks. During a stint in the British air force, Perks had known a guy named Lee Whyman. A thought struck me, and I pulled "Stone Alone" down off the shelf, to the page where he expressed his admiration for his old buddy Lee. Wyman says he first used the name onstage in 1963. "In 1964 I adapted his name, and changed mine by deed poll," he writes in a footnote. Me, I was born Jan. 11, 1961. What I need now is a lawyer to ask Siegel that his client stop using a name I have claim to by several years. May I suggest "Not That" Bill Wyman? - ---------------- Bill Wyman is the film and music editor for the Journal-Constitution. >ON THE WEB: To read the letter that Bill Wyman received, go to: www.ajc.com/living _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:43:01 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] back to central casting At 04:20 PM 11/18/2002 -0500, John Sharples wrote: >Two "better late than never" add-ons from me: Janet I-D should definitely be >played by the gal from THAT 70s SHOW, ??? The only cast member I can think of who's even remotely close is Laura Prepon (one of the final cuts from my all-time top five), and though I adore both Janet and her, I just don't see it. I really haven't thought of an appropriate celeb to play Janet, so I'm inclined to give her role to an incredibly capable actress like Emma Thompson, who doesn't quite look the part but could capture Janet-ness onscreen. Janet is adorably Margaret Schlegel-y, after all. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:11:40 -0500 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Another holiday favorite ruined On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:51:07 -0800 (PST), Tim Walters wrote: >The holiday season is bearing down on us like a Mack truck--in fact, I can >see the whites of the bulldog's eyes--and you know what that means: more >Christmas music from Tim. This year's model (entitled "Entsprungen") is a >short, technophilic, instrumental version of "Lo, How A Rose E'er >Blooming," and can be found here: > >http://www.doubtfulpalace.com/artists/Slaw/entsprungen.mp3 Why do you taunt me? The requested URL /artists/Slaw/entsprungen.mp3 was not found on this server. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:15:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Another holiday favorite ruined "John Swartzentruber" wrote: > Why do you taunt me? Stupidity, not malice, honest! > The requested URL /artists/Slaw/entsprungen.mp3 was not found on this > server. The real URL is: http://www.doubtfulpalace.com/artists/Mercaptan/entsprungen.mp3 I just have Slaw on the brain lately. As it were. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:48:14 -0600 From: Bill Silvers Subject: [loud-fans] Kikko-man! Content might not be suitable to pre-dinner viewing. http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso.swf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:56:47 -0800 From: "me" Subject: [loud-fans] movie advice how about this one: http://inbredrednecks.com/ INBRED REDNECKS is the rip-roarin', butt-whoopin', downhome comedy by director Joshua P. Warren. The adventure centers around four country boys, Billy Bob, Joe Bob, Clovis, and Bubba (not to mention an array of unique backwoods characters like Mad Dog, Long John, and Sweetmeat the Midget). When Billy Bob (Brent Ponder) breeds a giant rooster (cleverly named "Bigass Rooster") he feels confident he'll beat Monty (Steve Lewis), the local chicken fighting champion, in the upcoming bouts. However, after Monty's defeat, the enraged redneck and his bumbling thugs break into Billy Bob's farmhouse and steal the rooster, setting into motion a hilarious journey that explores the intellectual depths of redneck wit and philosophy. - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:02:20 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] mysterious! Not quite on the level of the apocryphal story of an increase in L.A.-area fires while Brian Wilson worked on the track "Fire" for _Smile_...but Rose came home tonight to tell me that our cat, Lumen, has begun a new career as a hairstylist. Apparently, he managed to snarl his fangs and claws in her hair and pull out a bit. The soundtrack for Rose's telling me this? Just happened to be "She's Goin' Bald" by the Beach Boys... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach" :: --William Gass np: guess... ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #401 *******************************