From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #378 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, October 29 2002 Volume 02 : Number 378 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] stoppard [] [loud-fans] clueless media? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] Shazam head west ["Larry Tucker" ] Re:Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) [dana-boy@juno.com] Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) [John Cooper ] Re: [loud-fans] Farengi ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] clueless media? [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] ___is the new___ [Boyof100lists@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] ___is the new___ [Matthew Weber Subject: [loud-fans] stoppard > Phil, I'm very jealous that you get to see THE COAST OF UTOPIA. ACT in SF > recently procuced NIGHT AND DAY, which is very good. They make a point of > producing Stoppard's work regularly, and he did a sitdown w/ the artistic > director, which was fascinating. He has the quintessentially plummy > accent... As you'd expect from a Czech kid who grew up in Singapore and India :-) He's an interesting, very smart guy, and it's great that you got to see him in that context. As for his slight glibness, there's the lovely story about his interview for the job of political editor of the Daily Telegraph - EDITOR: I see that on your application form you've listed politics among your interests. So tell me, Mr Stoppard, can you name the current Home Secretary? STOPPARD: Look, I said I was interested - I didn't say I was *obsessed*... And yes, it's much better of you imagine it being said with the plummy accent - peace & love phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:04:15 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] clueless media? I read a wire service-based article on the sniper guy (I don't suppose the whole incident's earned Harry Chapin any airplay...), which article featured a subhead "Cryptic Phrase" referring to the sniper's having used the phrase "Word is bond" a couple of times. Uh, isn't that pretty much common slang? Esp. since the article's writer did manage to dig up a couple of hip-hop tracks that use the phrase... Word. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: "Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!" :: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:23:14 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] Shazam head west Heads up for any of y'all west coasters who haven't had a chance to see the Shazam. They're playing several shows out your way in Nov. www.theshazam.com I chatted with Hans after the Sparklefest show here a couple of weeks ago and joked about how over the top their set was. Hans said that was just what R&R was all about and that they just have a lot of fun with it. They're a lot like Cheap Trick in more ways than one, but esp. in the way they play a small club like they were playing a stadium giving it their all from start to end. - -Larry BTW, saw Ana here at GbV last Friday night. Another marathon set...54 songs. Superdrag were devastatingly good. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:16:54 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Shazam head west At 09:23 AM 10/28/2002 -0500, Larry Tucker wrote: >I chatted with Hans after the Sparklefest show here a couple of weeks >ago and joked about how over the top their set was. Hans said that was >just what R&R was all about and that they just have a lot of fun with >it. They're a lot like Cheap Trick in more ways than one, but esp. in >the way they play a small club like they were playing a stadium giving >it their all from start to end. I've seen the Shazam about two dozen times over the years, and they've played only one set that I found even mildly disappointing, and that one was only by comparison to their usual standards -- I feel pretty confident that if it had been my first Shazam gig instead of my eleventh or so, I would have been blown away by it! The best set I've seen them play was earlier this year in front of a surprisingly indifferent 12th & Porter crowd. Despite (because of?) the lack of attention and enthusiasm from the crowd, the band played even *harder* and *better,* saving their frustration for a set-closing "We Think You're Dead," a song penned for just such an occasion. >Superdrag were devastatingly good. ...bolstered as of late by the addition of ex-V-Roy Mic Harrison on guitar/backing vox. Superdrag is another group that's always a solid bet live, but their sound can be too spare if they're not carrying a second guitar, much less one of the caliber of Mr. Harrison. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:22:42 GMT From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) The word presumably used in the movie (which I didn't see) has a semitic root present in Arabic, Persian and other dialects throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. It's also in Hindi. "Faranji" usually means "foreigner" in fus'ha, or standard Arabic. >>>>>>>>>>>> Lagaan is in Hindi. Looks like Andy mentioned the movie in passing, way back when. The link for info: http://www.planetbollywood.com/Film/Lagaan/ Not the best-written review, but it gets the main points across. Wish I'd seen it on the big screen. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:26:56 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Shazam head west |-----Original Message----- |From: Miles Goosens [mailto:outdoorminer@mindspring.com] |Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:17 AM |To: quercian rosicrucian psychobabble |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Shazam head west | | | >Superdrag were devastatingly good. | |...bolstered as of late by the addition of ex-V-Roy Mic Harrison on |guitar/backing vox. Superdrag is another group that's always |a solid bet |live, but their sound can be too spare if they're not carrying |a second |guitar, much less one of the caliber of Mr. Harrison. You are so right Miles. I've seen past shows when they were a threesome and there is no comparison. Mic provides everything they were lacking as a live band and sounding like a Tennessean Nirvana on songs like "Staggering Genius". - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:01:40 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) >Lagaan is in Hindi. Looks like Andy mentioned the movie in passing, way back when. The link for info: > >http://www.planetbollywood.com/Film/Lagaan/ > >Not the best-written review, but it gets the main points across. Wish I'd seen it on the big screen. Try also: http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2002/06/060701.html or www.imdb.com Haven't seen it yet, but it's on my list. Wondering how Dana can post to the list while not on the internet, Andy "Dogs, kids, and boats--they're all great things for your friends to have." - --Ryan Finholm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:43:13 GMT From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: Re:Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) Wondering how Dana can post to the list while not on the internet >>>>>>>> Juno. It's a long story, but one form of Juno functions only for sending and receiving email. It's possible that it *technically* connects to the internet, but that's getting too technical. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:52:11 -0800 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) Dana wrote: > Wondering how Dana can post to the list while not on the internet >>>>>>>>> > > Juno. It's a long story, but one form of Juno functions only for sending and > receiving email. It's possible that it *technically* connects to the > internet, but that's getting too technical. Andy's being technical. To those who split hairs, the Internet is all of cyberspace--email, telnet, newsgroups, and the Web, among other services and protocols. By this definition, you can't send or receive email without being connected to the Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:43:13 -0800 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Farengi and here i thought we were going to have a star trek conversation.... - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- - ----- Original Message ----- > The word presumably used in the movie (which I didn't see) has a > semitic root present in Arabic, Persian and other dialects throughout > the Middle East and Central Asia. It's also in Hindi. "Faranji" > usually means "foreigner" in fus'ha, or standard Arabic. The Egyptian > pronouncian is "Farangi", as they don't like the "j" sound for some > reason. In Thailand, the word means "Westerner/Caucasian"; it may also > be related to the word for Frenchman (Francais, Frank. > > Oddly enough, a Polynesian word for white foreigners is "palangi" > > last played in my car: Chills, "Kaleidoscope World." Anyone ever found > cover versions of Chills songs? Martyn Phillips needs his K. McCarty. > > Michael J. Zwirn, Environmental Policy Analyst http://www.zwirn.com > michael@zwirn.com > Home: 503/232-8919 > Cell: 503/887-9800 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:11:10 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] clueless media? On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > [...] used the phrase "Word is bond" a couple of times. > > Uh, isn't that pretty much common slang? Esp. since the article's writer > did manage to dig up a couple of hip-hop tracks that use the phrase... Common enough that it's used by the Onion's columnist Herbert Kornfeld a lot. Yeah, it sounds like the writer was a little too ready to go into the "baffling mind of a killer" outline. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:19:57 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Lagaan (ns) Quoting John Cooper : > Dana wrote: > > > Wondering how Dana can post to the list while not on the internet > >>>>>>>>> > > > > Juno. It's a long story, but one form of Juno functions only for sending > and > > receiving email. It's possible that it *technically* connects to the > > internet, but that's getting too technical. > > Andy's being technical. To those who split hairs, the Internet is all of > cyberspace--email, telnet, newsgroups, and the Web, among other services > and > protocols. By this definition, you can't send or receive email without > being > connected to the Internet. True - but if Juno still works the way it did when Rose had a Juno account, you're only connected for the brief time it takes (a) to download your messages, and (b) to upload your posts. You might be "on the internet," but free Juno has no functionality other than what I described. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:15:23 EST From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] ___is the new___ Where and when did this phrase first pop up in the popular culture? Was it Kings of Convenience's album, or in the Josie and the Pussycats movie? I'm getting tired of it. I think it has reached critical mass in the new Mini ads. Scott is the new Alex, - -Mark S. np: Morella's Forest _Tiny Lights of Heaven_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:33:39 -0800 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] ___is the new___ At 10:15 PM -0500 10/28/02, Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: >Where and when did this phrase first pop up in the popular culture? Was it >Kings of Convenience's album, or in the Josie and the Pussycats movie? I'm >getting tired of it. I think it has reached critical mass in the new Mini >ads. > >Scott is the new Alex, >-Mark S. > >np: Morella's Forest _Tiny Lights of Heaven_ Long before either, I think. I remember reading that Eric Andersen was the new Dylan, e.g. Matt I'm arm'd with more than complete steel--The justice of my quarrel. Lust's Dominion (1657), IV.iii ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #378 *******************************