From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #366 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, October 19 2002 Volume 02 : Number 366 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Simple Minds [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] Simple Minds [Roger Winston ] [loud-fans] OT: you could do worse [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] OT: (B)ryan Adams [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Bruce Dickinson gets a job ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 04:34:44 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Simple Minds On Friday, October 18, 2002, at 02:00 AM, Stewart Mason wrote: > The stretch from EMPIRES AND DANCE through SPARKLE IN THE RAIN -- > albums 3 > through 6 -- is the good stuff, although pretty much all of it now > sounds > dated (especially SPARKLE, on which they were already going for the > bombast > that sinks pretty much everything they did thereafter -- on the up > side, it > does have "Up On the Catwalk" and "The Kick Inside of Me"). 'Sparkle In The Rain' is the one with the really weird Steve Lillywhite mix, right? Absolutely no bass, tons of reverb (I'm talking multi-second echoes) on everything else (vocals, guitars, keyboards, even drums)... Anyway, if they put the song "A Brass Band In Africa" on one of the reissues as a bonus track, I'll be really happy. It's a truly great b-side (to "Don't You Forget About Me") that, to my knowledge, has never made it to CD in any form. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:21:41 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Simple Minds At Friday 10/18/2002 02:00 AM -0400, Stewart Mason wrote: >The stretch from EMPIRES AND DANCE through SPARKLE IN THE RAIN -- albums 3 >through 6 -- is the good stuff, although pretty much all of it now sounds >dated (especially SPARKLE, on which they were already going for the bombast >that sinks pretty much everything they did thereafter -- on the up side, it >does have "Up On the Catwalk" and "The Kick Inside of Me"). If you only >want to get one, NEW GOLD DREAM has by far the best hit-miss ratio, and you >can work your way back from there. The first two albums are roughly >equivalent to the first few Japan albums: some nice ideas, but you get the >idea that they're trying on styles looking for the one that fits. Simple Minds was my favorite group for quite awhile in the 80s. I agree about NEW GOLD DREAM being the pinnacle of their catalog and most likely to please. I also agree that on the first two albums, they are really trying to find their way. But I really like those first two albums anyway, especially REAL TO REAL CACOPHONY (the second). The synthesizers sound very dated, but durnit, there's something very interesting there that I keep going to back to. EMPIRES AND DANCE bores me except for "I Travel". There's an incredible single album lurking within the double album set SONS AND FASCINATION/SISTER FEELINGS CALL. Lots of neat stuff, but also lots of filler. "Theme For Great Cities" is still one of my favorite instrumental rock tracks of all time. What I particularly love about the double albums is that's where SM really started exploring the *texture* of sound. What's guitar? What's keyboards? What's bass? What's vocals? It doesn't matter - - it all blends together into a wonderful stew. NEW GOLD DREAM refined that formula even more. SPARKLE IN THE RAIN has its moments, but mostly bores me. Once "Don't You Forget About Me" came along, they started to lose it. By the time you get to STREET FIGHTING YEARS and GOOD NEWS FROM THE NEXT WORLD... ewwwww. Hey, let's be U2! Strangely, just this week, I got their latest two albums: NEON LIGHTS (all covers, including "Homosapien" and "Bring On The Dancing Horses") and CRY. Haven't listened to 'em yet. The only album I don't have is the import-only NEAPOLIS. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:13:43 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] OT: you could do worse anybody know if the above-named zine is still being published, or if Rob is doing some other zine these days? tia, - -- d. - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:43:41 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] OT: (B)ryan Adams An excerpt from one of the best anti-Ryan Adams diatribes I've seen "Sure Whiskeytown was a fine bar band but if BRYAN Adams fronted them they could've been the next Damn Yankees!" (http://mnp3.com/someone_says/) - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bruce Dickinson gets a job On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Keegstra, Russell wrote: > "What on earth am I doing in a #10m airliner simulator with > the lead singer of Iron Maiden?" > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,812005,00.html Maybe he can form a company w/ Gary Numan... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:07:56 +0100 From: "richblath" Subject: [loud-fans] All time Top 10s For all those who can't resist going on about the make up of these kind of polls Q magazine are currently taking in votes for their latest one, 5 years after their previous attempt. Check it out at www.q4music.com Richard ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #366 *******************************