From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #357 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, October 11 2002 Volume 02 : Number 357 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Veils of Colour [Boyof100lists@aol.com] [loud-fans] Paying compliments to the complementary colors [Richard Gagno] [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V2 #356/Lost in Music [John ] Re: [loud-fans] best retraction ever [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Paying compliments to the complementary colors [Boyof100l] Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. [Jack Lippold ] [loud-fans] I know it's late, but... [Phil Fleming ] Re: [loud-fans] Fanny (ns) [Stewart Mason ] [loud-fans] Fanny [AWeiss4338@aol.com] [loud-fans] digital cameras [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:02:08 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Veils of Colour In a message dated 10/9/02 2:19:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, me@justanotherfuckin.com writes: > what exactly are these people painting with this horrific color? > > and is marthat stewart involved? wouldn't that be appropriate? > I was trying not to bore with every detail. I want to paint my bedroom this color. Maybe "money" green isn't exactly right. It's kind of got a clayish thing happening with it. I'll check the web again. I like this shade. I think it makes fifties and sixties Danish Modern stuff look good. It kind of helps tie different styles/eras into a cohesive whole. Martha will be painting her cell this "healing" tone. Oh yes, and tiling the floor with old K-Mart credit cards. So "fun." - -Mark S. np: Adam Ant "Antics in the Forbidden Zone" (Yeah, really. Adam is a master of theatre and has a great sense of humor. Ever seen his early videos? A little heavy on the rouge, but funny) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:29:11 -0400 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: [loud-fans] Paying compliments to the complementary colors >Mark writes: >This is for the list artistes: >What is the complimentary color and shade of that money type green people are >painting with these days? Is it what is called "salmon"? When are people going to realize that it's "complementary" and not "complimentary" in this color context? Glass houses and Volkswagens, Mark. ;) It could be the horrid salmon, but only if the green you're referring to leans toward blue, as in "turquoise", because salmon is sorta orangy, is it not. Shudder. Hope that helps. >I have my reasons. You man of mystery, you. Rick - -- ************************ "I began to feel uncomfortable, ************************ as if I were walking over a canyon on a narrow railroad bridge hearing a train whistle far down the line" John Straley, "Death and the language of happiness" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:10:16 +0100 From: John Subject: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V2 #356/Lost in Music On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 03:00:08 -0400 (EDT), loud-fans-digest wrote: > >loud-fans-digest Thursday, October 10 2002 Volume 02 : >Number 356>Be well, > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:40:47 -0700 >From: "Andrew Hamlin" >Subject: [loud-fans] Book report > >HIGH FIDELITY, GLIMPSES, CHEESE CHRONICLES...and I'm now pleased to >announce >a new essential rock music book, Giles Smith's LOST IN MUSIC: A POP >ODYSSEY, published circa 1995 in England, and not in the United >States, but >try a good (hopefully independent) bookseller or a library. Or if that fails....... http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0330339176/ref=sr_aps_books_1 _2/202-2042706-7754248 >ten years older, and from Colchester instead of Dallas...and >actually had a >band...with a guy who went on to New Model Army...and was obsessed >with >Stevie Wonder..." See, we're not just a back water yokel East Anglian town ! Cheers, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:49:46 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] best retraction ever http://tinyurl.com/1wi5 "The story 'Filipino-American history recognized' stated that the 'Nuestra Senora de Buena Esperanza', the galleon on which the first Filipinos landed at Morro, Bay, Calif., loosely translates to 'The Big Ass Spanish Boat'. It actually translates to 'Our Lady of Good Peace'... We hope these groups accept our deep regret." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:58:25 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] best retraction ever At 12:49 PM 10/10/2002 -0400, Dave Walker wrote: >http://tinyurl.com/1wi5 > >"The story 'Filipino-American history recognized' stated that the >'Nuestra Senora de Buena Esperanza', the galleon on which the >first Filipinos landed at Morro, Bay, Calif., loosely translates to >'The Big Ass Spanish Boat'. It actually translates to 'Our Lady of >Good Peace'... We hope these groups accept our deep regret." The main giggle for me here is that Esperanza means "Hope," not "Peace." And that the writer was enough of an idjit to not recognize that the piece she was cribbing from was satire. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:07:00 -0700 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] best retraction ever Full and hilarious details on this mix-up are at the site the writer used for the 'translation': > From: Dave Walker > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:49:46 -0400 > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: [loud-fans] best retraction ever > > http://tinyurl.com/1wi5 > > "The story 'Filipino-American history recognized' stated that the > 'Nuestra Senora de Buena Esperanza', the galleon on which the > first Filipinos landed at Morro, Bay, Calif., loosely translates to > 'The Big Ass Spanish Boat'. It actually translates to 'Our Lady of > Good Peace'... We hope these groups accept our deep regret." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:07:40 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Paying compliments to the complementary colors In a message dated 10/10/02 9:29:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gasp@aga.ca writes: > When are people going to realize that it's "complementary" and not > "complimentary" Touche. I've had three collegiate art classes (one hands on) so I really have no excuse, do I? People will realize it probably when public school liberal arts funding isn't cut to pay for what REALLY matters. New football uniforms. I have an idea. We'll get high school football teams sponsored by various companies, with their logos showing on the uniform, like a NASCAR driver: "Number 59, Brad Zits, is wearing his new jersey brought to you by Ford Expedition. Kick their wussy asses, Brad!!!" Oh btw, Brianna, the confetti story made me laugh, and put a good slant on my morning. - -Mark S. np: The Best of Fun Boy Three ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:35:20 -0500 From: Jack Lippold Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. >Apples for eatin', oranges for juicin'. Mayo? No thanks. Beer? Nope. >Chocolate milk? Yes, please. Temple orange season coming up in January. One of the few things that gets me through the 2 most boring months of the year. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:45:20 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] More on "The Funniest Joke" oh brother From the AP newswire on AOL. It's funny, but not That funny. I like the Texas one. Andrea By JILL LAWLESS .c The Associated Press LONDON (Oct. 3) - Drum roll, please - an online search for the world's funniest joke has produced a winner. In a year-long experiment called LaughLab, a British psychology professor asked thousands of people around the world to rate the humor value of a list of jokes; they could also add their own favorites. In December, Richard Wiseman and his associates announced the front-runner, a hoary old gag involving fictional detective Sherlock Holmes and his sidekick, Dr. Watson. But in the final tally of some 2 million votes for 40,000 jokes, announced Thursday, a new joke emerged as a round-the-world rib-tickler: ``A couple of New Jersey hunters are out in the woods when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing, his eyes are rolled back in his head. ``The other guy whips out his cell phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps to the operator: 'My friend is dead! What can I do?' ``The operator, in a calm soothing voice says: 'Just take it easy. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead.' ``There is a silence, then a shot is heard. The guy's voice comes back on the line. He says: 'OK, now what?''' ``Many of the jokes submitted received higher ratings from certain groups of people, but this one had real universal appeal,'' said Wiseman, who has published a book based on the experiment. Wiseman, who teaches at the University of Hertfordshire in southern England, said the research revealed that different countries preferred different types of jokes. Respondents were asked to rate jokes on a five-point scale from ``not very funny'' to ``very funny.'' Germans were the most likely to find all types of jokes funny, while Canadians were the least amused of the 10 top responding nations. The British, Irish, Australians and New Zealanders favored jokes involving wordplay, while continental Europeans liked jokes with a surreal bent. Americans and Canadians preferred jokes invoking a strong sense of superiority - either because a character looks stupid or is made to look stupid by someone else. Among the jokes favored by Americans: ``Texan: 'Where are you from?' ``Harvard graduate: 'I come from a place where we do not end our sentences with prepositions.' ``Texan: 'OK, where are you from, jackass?''' Wiseman said jokes work ``for lots of different reasons. They sometimes make us feel superior to others, reduce the emotional impact of anxiety-provoking situations or surprise us because of some kind of incongruity.'' The winning joke about the hunters, he said, ``contained all three elements.'' Computer analysis also threw up a number of arcane humor ``facts.'' Not all animal jokes, for example, are created equal - jokes mentioning ducks were rated as funnier than other jokes. And length matters. Jokes containing 103 words were thought to be especially funny. The winning joke is 102 words long. 10/03/02 10:02 EDT Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:57:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] More on "The Funniest Joke" oh brother > By LUCY LAWLESS > .c The Associated Press > > LONDON (Oct. 3) - Drum roll, please - an online search for the world's > most reposted joke has produced a winner. > > In a year-long experiment called FwdLab, a British psychology professor > asked thousands of people around the world to rate the re-posting value > of a list of jokes; they could also add their own favorites. > > In December, Pete Repeterson and his associates announced the > front-runner, a hoary old gag involving fictional detective Sherlock > Holmes and his sidekick, Dr. Watson. But in the final tally of some 2 > million votes for 40,000 jokes, announced Thursday, a new joke emerged > as a round-the-web remailing-tickler: blah-blah-blah. Hasn't this shown up here, oh, ten times over the last year? Okay, so a gay blonde duck phones up his redheaded Polish hairdresser... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] More on "The Funniest Joke" oh brother On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > By LUCY LAWLESS > > Hasn't this shown up here, oh, ten times over the last year? Ah, but Jeff - you missed the joke - it was written by Xena! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:25:21 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] new Sparks In a message dated 10/9/02 8:34:48 PM, okneale@yahoo.com writes: << Does anyone know if the new Sparks album, Li'l Beethoven, is being released in the US? >> The Maels haven't decided yet on who to work with on a U.S. release of "Li'l Beethoven," but you (and other Sparks fans) should be able to order an import copy through the Oglio Records website. Maybe not on the day of release, but soon. And while fanmael.net may not have had the Sparks info you needed, fans of glam should note that they're selling a 2-disc comprehensive Jet reissue for less than what it'll cost you for the recent single-disc reissue of the first Jet album on the Radiant Future label. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:53:34 -0700 From: "me" Subject: [loud-fans] loud fans with songs named after them uh... stewart? you're a song now. begin small section of ant-mail: i'm also basically done with "guladong," a record made concurrently with most of the anttracks released on "will ant for frond." no prediction when or where this one will be released, but certainly not before "king of missouri." certainly? tracks include... you look good in yellow mahjong dijon i'm just a country girl ruth from leeds stewart mason grapes on a plate chinese boots of spanish leather motor king of missouri2 (not a remake like "banana2000" but a whole other song) it won't be long 'til the banjo patrol comes along stories of the bible keep my face clean end small section of ant mail. so you're, like, famous or something? - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] loud fans with songs named after them On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, me wrote: > uh... stewart? you're a song now. The demo of this song has actually been available at antonbarbeau.com; I don't think the direct link is up anymore, but you can download it at http://antonbarbeau.com/audio/stewartmason.mp3 The lyrics don't appear to have anything to do with Stewart Mason per se. BTW, I first reported the existence of this song on loud-fans back in February. So it's actually something that keeps coming up here, along with the world's funniest joke. ;) Speaking of things that keep repeating, I have some happy news to report. About a year ago, 125 released Paula Carino's AQUACADE, which made the ten best lists of many loud-fans (Miles Goosens: "This thing just flat-out kicks ass. And that doesn't begin to cover how great this album is."). However, we sold every single one, and for the past several months, we have had exactly 1 copy in the 125 offices (our own, natch, and we weren't gonna part with it). We kept the MP3's up on the site, and from time to time, people have written to us and said, "Hey, will I ever be able to buy that AQUACADE CD?" Well, my friends -- the answer is finally yes. We went back to press and AQUACADE is once again for sale at 125records.com for the low, low price of $10. For ten bucks, you get 13 Carino classics, packaged in what I have to say is probably the nicest artwork to grace our label so far (notwithstanding the three hot chicks on the cover of FRTR). The cover is from an old World's Fair program, and the disc itself has a really pretty full-color illustration of a sunset on it. And oh yeah, did I mention that it rocks? - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:41:08 -0400 From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Fanny (ns) Apologies if this is noted in one of the 265 messages that are waiting to be read, but Rhino's Fanny handmade is now available for pre-order. From the description, it sounds pretty darned amazing. The link is: http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=7734 And I just got back from beautiful California, having spent a week or so at lovely Mammoth mountain hiking and fishing and swimming (in the hot springs). Sadly I lost my camera (left it on top of the car, duhhh) so I won't be able to post the photos of me kissing a worm just before dropping it into the creek, where a stealthy fish immediately took it off of the hook. I have to admit, it's kind of hard coming back from such a pretty place to NYC, especially on a day like today (cloudy and smelly). Um, so anyone have a good recommendation for a digital camera under $500? I'd been meaning to get one anyway. FWIW, we are PC, not Mac. Music trivia: found out that Shari's dad was Arthur Lee's auto mechanic back in the day. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:58:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: [loud-fans] I know it's late, but... - --- Tim_Walters@digidesign.com wrote: > Southern Comfort and Coke? Too sweet for me. Fine... I'll have yours then! :) Phil F. (awaiting Diet Vanilla Coke, supposedly coming out this month) Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:29:02 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fanny (ns) At 08:41 PM 10/10/2002 -0400, Dana Paoli wrote: >Um, so anyone have a good recommendation for a digital camera under $500? > I'd been meaning to get one anyway. FWIW, we are PC, not Mac. My father-in-law, a professional photographer, has been none-too-subtly hinting for a point-and-shoot digital to play with just to see how he likes them. The one we've been looking at getting him for Christmas is a Canon PowerShot that Consumer Reports likes a lot in terms of value for money and ease of use. Specs are at http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/s200/index.html and if that's not ballsy enough, I also like the looks of the one a step up, http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/s330/index.html The list price on the S200 is about $300, which means you should be able to find one for $200-$250 once the Christmas sales start. Cool feature on both: if you've got a Canon printer, you can just hook the camera directly up to it. Yes, I know Anton has a song named after me. T-11.5 hours to the start of Terrastock V, S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:01:24 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Fanny Apologies if this is noted in one of the 265 messages that are waiting to be read, but Rhino's Fanny handmade is now available for pre-order. From the description, it sounds pretty darned amazing. The link is: http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=7734 I wish to hell I could afford this, but at practically $80 it would kill. It looks great from what the site had on it. I'm glad this is out though, finally someone is getting around to paying proper tribute to this great and underrated band. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:02:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] digital cameras On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Stewart Mason wrote: > At 08:41 PM 10/10/2002 -0400, Dana Paoli wrote: > >Um, so anyone have a good recommendation for a digital camera under $500? > > I'd been meaning to get one anyway. FWIW, we are PC, not Mac. > > them. The one we've been looking at getting him for Christmas is a Canon > PowerShot that Consumer Reports likes a lot in terms of value for money and > ease of use. Specs are at > http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/s200/index.html and if that's not > ballsy enough, I also like the looks of the one a step up, > http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/s330/index.html > The list price on the S200 is about $300, which means you should be able to > find one for $200-$250 once the Christmas sales start. Cool feature on > both: if you've got a Canon printer, you can just hook the camera directly > up to it. You can find prices and reviews several places on the web, two of which are www.epinions.com and www.cnet.com. Lowest listed price at epinions for the S200 is $235, for the S330 is $285. And jingle fucking bells, Stewart's probably right that these will drop before Christmas. I think it's cnet that has a feature whereby you can designate items for which it'll send you updates on the lowest listed price. Of course, "Slim E. Shady's Back-Alley Cameras, Alcohol, and Medical Supply Shop" might be one of the vendors, but you can always buy from someone more reputable. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:16:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. It's definitely not for everyone...let me just leave it at that. Phil F. - --- AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: > Never had Vanilla Coke before. Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:49:31 -0400 From: Chris Murtland Subject: Re: [loud-fans] digital cameras On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:02:13 -0500 (CDT), Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >course, "Slim E. Shady's Back-Alley Cameras, Alcohol, and Medical >Supply Shop" might be one of the vendors, but you can always buy >from someone more reputable. I've never had a problem with anything I've purchased from Slim. The Good Reverend ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #357 *******************************