From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #354 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, October 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 354 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. [Aaron Mandel ] RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. ["Chris Murtland" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > I, to this day, cannot figure out why so many on list are so reluctant to > talk about things from a personal standpoint. I'm not asking to know about i don't think it's so much that there's any mass reluctance to talk about things from a personal perspective -- certainly not on my part -- but i do think that your *style* of writing, and incorporating personal issues into your writing, is somewhat incongruent with the list. it would be facile to suggest that's because you like d. coupland more than a lot of us seem to, but maybe not useless -- there are times when you seem to have a coupland-esque quality, if you'll pardon the coinage. and i don't think it's at all a bad thing to have voices on the list that differ from its mainstream (to the extent that it has one) & in fact i think it's pretty necessary -- but it may mean that some of your messages don't spark much discussion. (but i think that's normal for mailing lists & not indiciative of rudeness -- not all of my posts garner responses either, y'know.) > feel, their hatred of mayonnaise, Hawksley Workman reissues, and how to god, do i hate mayonnaise. if i could uninvent it, wipe it, and the trace of any merest memory of it, from the universe entire, i surely would. > As far as my intelligence level, I made a near perfect score on my national > teacher's exams, so I'm smarter than the average bear, K? should i infer that you thought i implied otherwise? coz i didn't think i had. > And as far as Scott's music goes, I was listening to his music on my > turntable years before a lot of you had even the slightest clue. mmm mmmaybe. mmmaybe not. pax. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 08:51:57 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. >I am interested in how things affect you on a >personal level. I am too, actually. I think the problem is that there's always a fine line between discussion and argument and this list tries really hard to stay away from that line. >their hatred of mayonnaise I hate it too. Most disgusting "food" I can think of. Anyone else want to share? _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 09:11:08 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Review: Linda Thompson, Friday Oct. 4, 2002 > To my mind, and probably to those of the audience in general, the percentage > of songs from Fashionably Late was too high, and the percentage from the > Richard and Linda years too low. But I can't genuinely blame her for > promoting her own solo work. At least she placed some of the most beloved > songs from the back catalogue in the setlist, including "Dimming of the > Day," "I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight," "Two Lonely Hearts," and > her own "Telling Me Lies," (from One Clear Moment), which Emmylou, Dolly > Parton and Linda Ronstadt later made a hit on the country charts. I have no evidence for this, but it's been my impression over the years that her occasional on-stage vocal problems usually occur when she's trying to sing in the higher vocal range of her old days. If that's true, it's a very good reason to avoid the old songs, or at least any old songs that tax her current vocal range. Which is most of them, probably. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:08:29 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. |-----Original Message----- |From: Aaron Milenski [mailto:amilenski@hotmail.com] |Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:52 AM |To: loud-fans@smoe.org |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. | |>their hatred of mayonnaise | |I hate it too. Most disgusting "food" I can think of. | |Anyone else want to share? Ooh I love mayo, esp. homemade where you can use safflower oil. Tuna salad wouldnb't be the same without gobs of mayo. - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:18:48 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: [loud-fans] Let's bash mark, chapter 584 On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:08:29 -0400, Larry Tucker wrote: >Ooh I love mayo, esp. homemade where you can use safflower oil. >Tuna salad wouldnb't be the same without gobs of mayo. Ketchup on the other hand is vile and should be wiped from the face of the earth. Wow, this is fun! Thanks Mark! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:28:05 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] All kids love Blog! On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 01:34 AM, Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > It has been brought to my attention that I should do one of these. > Turn me > on, Loudfan. As I mentioned earlier, both Pyra (via Blogspot -- http://www.blogger.com) and Livejournal (http://www.livejournal.com) will host weblogs for you at no cost. All you'll need is a freely downloadable client which they will tell you about when you check their FAQ pages. Neutral Mayonnaise Hotel, d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:48:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Aaron Milenski wrote: > Anyone else want to share? Mayonnaise is deee-licious. I'm going to keep badgering the list about this until nobody can stand it: the new Statuesque album is beyond great. MP3s and ordering info are at www.statuesque.org.uk. I will also repeat the outrageous claim I made on IRC this week that Statuesque are like Scott fronting the Smiths. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:16:44 -0500 From: "Keegstra, Russell" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. Aaron M and Aaron M: >> Anyone else want to share? > >Mayonnaise is deee-licious. Mayonnaise on everything that is eaten between bread. I've been using fat free mayo for so long now that if I ingest any real mayo I go into shock. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:45:24 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: [loud-fans] Statuesque > I will also repeat the outrageous claim I made on IRC this > week that Statuesque are like Scott fronting the Smiths. I'm also reminded pleasantly of early Let's Active. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 11:48:59 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. At 10:08 AM 10/8/2002 -0400, Larry Tucker wrote: >|I hate it too. Most disgusting "food" I can think of. >| >|Anyone else want to share? > >Ooh I love mayo, esp. homemade where you can use safflower oil. >Tuna salad wouldnb't be the same without gobs of mayo. I've often wondered if mayonnaise-bashers have ever tasted a good homemade mayo, which is to the store-bought variety as a fine aged Double Gloucester is to individually-wrapped slices of Imitation Pasteurized Process Cheese Food. Charity and I and her folks went on the traditional October trip to Maine over the weekend (a combination of looking at fall leaves and frenzied acquisitions at LL Bean and the Kittery outlets), and on Saturday morning, we had an absolutely stupendous breakfast at a place called the Friendly Toast in Portsmouth NH that is making me rethink my assertion that great decor and great food are mutually exclusive. Charity and I both had a special called Green Eggs And Ham that was a slice of anadama toast topped with a thick slice of Virginia-style ham and a poached egg, topped with a homemade herb mayonnaise that was just out of this world. A good mayonnaise has a much softer, velvety quality and it's nowhere near as sweet and custardy as store-bought mayo, and it's also really easy to make if you have a blender, a food processor, or even a good whisk and strong arm muscles. S NP: THE WAY WE NEVER WERE -- The Beatifics ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:46:36 -0400 From: Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. > From: Keegstra, Russell [mailto:RK9@tmw.com] > Aaron M and Aaron M: > >> Anyone else want to share? > > > >Mayonnaise is deee-licious. > > Mayonnaise on everything that is eaten between bread. I've > been using fat free mayo for so long now that if I ingest any > real mayo I go into shock. Lots of mayonnaise with lots of salt and pepper for Thanksgiving turkey leftover sandwiches. Yum. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 11:55:45 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. >I've often wondered if mayonnaise-bashers have ever tasted a good homemade >mayo, Yes, and it still completely grosses me out. Even adding horseradish doesn't help, and I l-o-v-e horseradish. Similarly, I can't stand the taste of beer, and I dislike the supposedly good stuff as much as the cheap stuff (Actually, I dislike the good stuff more because it's got more flavor.) Then again, I've learned over time that a lot of people who drink a lot of beer don't like the taste either. At least nobody eats mayonnaise to be cool. If you all don't think I'm crazy yet, I'm also probably the only person you know who doesn't like strawberries or watermelon either. And other than that there's hardly anything I don't like to eat! Aaron, contemplating lunch _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 12:01:52 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. At 11:55 AM 10/8/2002 -0400, Aaron Milenski wrote: >If you all don't think I'm crazy yet, I'm also probably the only person you >know who doesn't like strawberries or watermelon either. And other than >that there's hardly anything I don't like to eat! It's true, for a skinny guy, the Pudman can put it away. However, I hate watermelon. I mean, what the hell's the point? It tastes like sugar and water, and the seeds are annoying as hell. And don't even get me started on cantaloupe. A few chunks of a nice ripe honeydew in a fruit salad are okay, though. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:28:40 EDT From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. In a message dated 10/8/02 8:56:14 AM, amilenski@hotmail.com writes: << I can't stand the taste of beer, and I dislike the supposedly good stuff as much as the cheap stuff (Actually, I dislike the good stuff more because it's got more flavor.) Then again, I've learned over time that a lot of people who drink a lot of beer don't like the taste either. At least nobody eats mayonnaise to be cool. >> Wow, 's'been a long time since I hung out with anyone who drank beer to be "cool." I, for one, really do like the taste of beer (more now probably than when I used to drink it for the effect). After some hard work out in the yard in the summertime, there is nothing I'd rather drink that a cold beer. I seldom drink more than a couple, so it sure ain't the alcohol I'm after (and, I have long since given up trying to look cool in front of my kids). My personal favorites are Pacifico, Negra Modelo (especially good with food), Bohemia, Sam Adams (which I keep on tap in a beer cooler on the back porch) and a number of great Canadian beers from some of the smaller breweries. And, although I don't especially like the taste of Belgian ales by themselves, with a good meal, there is nothing like them. Left ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 12:52:15 -0400 From: "Chris Murtland" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. > << I can't stand the taste > of beer, and I dislike the supposedly good stuff as much as the cheap stuff In the words of Mojo, beer ain't drinkin' If you've ever had whiskey, beer will always disappoint. But if I have to drink beer, I will go for the cheapest, most watery American stuff available. I won't reveal my exact condiment preferences, but you have to have some kind of lube on a sandwich. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 12:59:24 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. At 12:52 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, Chris Murtland wrote: >If you've ever had whiskey, beer will always disappoint. And if you've ever eaten an apple, oranges will always suck. Apparently. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:05:13 -0400 From: "Chris Murtland" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. Ah, the eternal struggle of the splitters vs. the lumpers... Stewart Mason wrote: > At 12:52 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, Chris Murtland wrote: > >If you've ever had whiskey, beer will always disappoint. > > And if you've ever eaten an apple, oranges will always suck. Apparently. > > S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Stewart Mason wrote: > And if you've ever eaten an apple, oranges will always suck. Apples for eatin', oranges for juicin'. Mayo? No thanks. Beer? Nope. Chocolate milk? Yes, please. Thanks for asking... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:14:50 -0400 From: "Chris Murtland" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. > On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Stewart Mason wrote: > > And if you've ever eaten an apple, oranges will always suck. And, for those fond of fine distinctions, an apple eaten on July 3, 1982, will be fundamentally different than an apple eaten on September 17, 1997. Therefore, talking about the eating of apples must be futile. np: Weighted Transactions In Stereo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:18:42 -0400 From: Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. > From: Chris Murtland [mailto:chris@studiomoxie.com] > I won't reveal my exact condiment preferences, but you have > to have some kind of lube on a sandwich. Now I'm frightened. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 12:17:29 -0500 From: Bill Silvers Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. Stewart Mason wrote: >NP: THE WAY WE NEVER WERE -- The Beatifics So, how is it? I've been waiting on my Parasol order for two weeks now. b.s. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:25:30 -0400 From: Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. > From: Stewart Mason [mailto:flamingo@theworld.com] > However, I hate watermelon. I mean, what the hell's the > point? It tastes > like sugar and water, and the seeds are annoying as hell. I used to dislike watermelon for those exact reasons. Then I became pregnant. I craved watermelon, absolutely *craved* it! I'd get up in the middle of the night and eat half a water melon. I couldn't get enough watermelon. Worse yet, it was February - not exactly the watermelon season. Each watermelon probably ran $30 or more (okay, I'm exaggerating here). Not surprisingly, Melanie absolutely loves watermelon. I tell her it's because I ate 2-3 watermelons a week when I was pregnant with her. I also tell her I named her after the fruit: Water-Melanie. Oh, and seedless is definitely the way to go! -julianne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:28:33 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. > >If you've ever had whiskey, beer will always disappoint. > >And if you've ever eaten an apple, oranges will always suck. Apparently. > Yeah, and I dislike whiskey even more than I dislike beer. Funny how these discissions of "tastes" and "opinions" immediatly become about absolutes. Not that I haven't been guilty of the same... _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:32:07 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. At 12:17 PM 10/8/2002 -0500, Bill Silvers wrote: >Stewart Mason wrote: > >>NP: THE WAY WE NEVER WERE -- The Beatifics > >So, how is it? I've been waiting on my Parasol order for two weeks now. Stronger songs overall than HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING, but nothing as flat-out perfect as "This Year's Jessica." It doesn't sound like it was pieced together from years' worth of sessions with several different lineups, which it apparently was. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:34:03 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Powerpuff Sopranos so. now that i can come up for air for a minute - i have to put in my plug for Invader Zim, since you've brought up cartoons. would appeal to loudfans due to twisted, warped plots, great humor, and beautiful artwork. on nickelodeon. i think it's friday at 9 or so. - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vallor" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: [loud-fans] Powerpuff Sopranos > > I wanted to see the big pop culture phenomenon stuff, so I saw Powerpuff > > Girls, but it didn't hold my interest. The style of the cartoon was > > good, > > though. Spongebob Squarepants was, well, it had a couple of moments, but > the same deal (I flipped between commercial breaks). > > Best to start with the right Powerpuff Girls episodes and don't !! see the > substandard movie. I'd recommend the Meet The Beatall's episode (with Mojo > being lured into conceptual crime by the monkey of his dreams...Moko Jono) > on the DVD of the same name and or The Bare Facts on the Powerpuff Bluff > DVD. > > Spongebob Squarepants, now that's a cartoon with stoner appeal. > > For great cartooning, watch the Cartoon Network's Adult Swin on Sunday > night...The Brak Show, Sealab 2021 and Harvey Birdman Attorney At Law are > all pretty great. > > Harvey Birdman seems to have free reign over Hanna Barberra characters and > I've recently seen a Sopranos parody episode with The Flintstones in The > Sopranos roles (complete with the Sopranos' opening song parodied to > reference the Flintstones..."you got no fancy shoes" indeed!) and another > episode with Yogi Bear and Boo Boo where Boo Boo's put on trial as the > Unibooboo. Brak is a brilliant show (the best of the 3, I think, and a Space > Ghost Coast To Coast spin off...the Mister Tickles episode is amazingly > funny) and Sealab is downright twisted, it has the same characters as the > 60's cartoon but is often filled with seedy drug references...the second > episode I saw was full of Reqium For A Dream jokes. > > > No - but it does make you look like what everybody expects a mob boss to > > look like from the movies, which I take it part of the point: that these > > guys model their image and behavior to an extent on those movies' > > depictions of Mafiosi. (Idiot warning: I don't have HBO and haven't > > actually seen _The Sopranos_, so this is all based on hearsay and > > seewrite.) > > Maybe Silvio (Steve Van Zandt's character) looks the movie mobster but Tony > Soprano looks like half the jackasses in SUV's with golf clubs in the back > seat who cut me off on the freeway everyday. Apologies to any jackasses in > SUV's with golf clubs in the back seat on the list. > > - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:42:44 -0400 From: "Chris Murtland" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. Aaron Milenski wrote: > Funny how these discissions of "tastes" and "opinions" immediatly become > about absolutes. Not that I haven't been guilty of the same... Luckily, opinions regarding food are meaningless except to the people who have them and have no effect on anything. That's the kind of banter I like. It is nearly as crucial as the correct spelling of Volkswagen or the motivations of indie musicians. Once you've had whiskey, Coke will always disappoint. On my death bed, I will only think of the office. "you're the kind of girl I like because you're empty, and I'm empty" np: All Transactions Are In My Favor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:46:45 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:42:44 -0400, Chris Murtland wrote: >Once you've had whiskey, Coke will always disappoint. But I like bourbon and Coke. Now what? But in all other contexts, Coke always disappoints. I guess I can take some comfort in that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:46:02 -0500 From: Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. I like my coke dissolved in my whiskey, as a morning pick-me-up..... Once you've had whiskey, Coke will always disappoint. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:49:09 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. >But in all other contexts, Coke always disappoints. I guess I can take >some comfort in that. Vanilla Coke sure disappointed me. I'll say that! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:02:24 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. their hatred of mayonnaise I hate it too. Most disgusting "food" I can think of. Anyone else want to share? Mayo with roast beaf, mmmm. Ketchup on pasta, mmmm. mustard on bologna mmm. :-) Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:03:21 -0500 From: Bill Silvers Subject: Beatifics, etc. (was RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583.) > >>NP: THE WAY WE NEVER WERE -- The Beatifics > > > >So, how is it? I've been waiting on my Parasol order for two weeks now. > >Stronger songs overall than HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING, but nothing as >flat-out perfect as "This Year's Jessica." It doesn't sound like it was >pieced together from years' worth of sessions with several different >lineups, which it apparently was. Interesting. Point taken about the inconsistency of HOW I LEARNED... though I did come to appreciate pretty much the entire record. Having seen a pickup band (fronted by Chris Dorn) as the Beatifics at IPO in 1999, and after talking to some folks about their occasional local Twin Cities shows, I gathered that The Beatifics are Chris Dorn and whoever else shows up. I'd picked up the IN THE MEANTIME EP this spring and enjoyed it but wasn't knocked out by it (the inclusion of another mix of "Jessica" set up unfortunate comparisons and speculations). I did meet Mr. Dorn, who was playing bass for sort-of alt-country guitarist-songwriter Marlee MacLeod this summer, and he seemed like a good guy, FWIW. I've got a lot of new music lately, probably most notably (and recently) the new Ron Sexsmith (which is being sold in Canada as a 2CD with his first record, GRAND OPERA LANE), the new You Am I and, um, the new Apples In Stereo. I'm loathe to mention the latter for some reason, but will say that I'm a little disappointed after a couple of spins. b.s. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:19:52 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Beatifics, etc. (was RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583.) At 01:03 PM 10/8/2002 -0500, Bill Silvers wrote: >I'd >picked up the IN THE MEANTIME EP this spring and enjoyed it but wasn't >knocked out by it (the inclusion of another mix of "Jessica" set up >unfortunate comparisons and speculations). I did meet Mr. Dorn, who was >playing bass for sort-of alt-country guitarist-songwriter Marlee MacLeod >this summer, and he seemed like a good guy, FWIW. I set up a gig for the Beatifics with the Ant Farmers in early 1997 at the late, lamented Fabulous Dingo Bar in Albuquerque (which I guess explains why AF leader Carl Petersen and I are thanked in the new album's liner notes, something I just noticed this afternoon) and I thought all of them, particularly Chris and drummer Keely Lane -- who unlike Keely Smith is a boy -- were really nice guys. You may be disappointed to learn that three songs from the EP -- "In the Meantime," "Outro" and "Different Stars" -- are reprised on the album, but "In the Meantime" is second only to "Jessica" in my Chris Dorn pantheon, and listening to the album again, "Between the Lines" and "Sorry Yesterdays" are also leaping out at me. I'm hearing a little bit of the poppier songs Grant Hart wrote for Husker Du in that one, actually. >I've got a lot of new music lately, probably most notably (and recently) >the new Ron Sexsmith (which is being sold in Canada as a 2CD with his first >record, GRAND OPERA LANE), the new You Am I and, um, the new Apples In >Stereo. I'm loathe to mention the latter for some reason, but will say that >I'm a little disappointed after a couple of spins. I'm a little surprised that the overt '60s references are all but absent on the new Apples, but I don't particularly miss them. They could only mine that field for so long. Oddly, what I'm most reminded of are the early albums by bands like the Primitives and the Darling Buds! It has that sort of stripped down 'n' speedy vibe. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:58:30 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com wrote: > > I like my coke dissolved in my whiskey, as a morning pick-me-up..... Well, my favorite way to drink the two is to take a swig of Jack Daniels black, hold it on my tongue for a moment to enjoy the flavor, then add a sip of Coke to it in my mouth, enjoy that for a moment, and swallow. (Alright, no lewd swallow jokes!) Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:59:01 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. you should all be ashamed of yourselves. scotch, people, is the only thing worth drinking. with an ice cube or two to release the flavor, and punctuated by the occasional cup of coffee. - -- It's well known that if you take a lot of random noise, you can find chance patterns in it, and the Net makes it easier to collect random noise. Dr. James M. Robins, Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at Harvard - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny grover" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. > Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com wrote: > > > > I like my coke dissolved in my whiskey, as a morning pick-me-up..... > > Well, my favorite way to drink the two is to take a swig of Jack Daniels > black, hold it on my tongue for a moment to enjoy the flavor, then add a > sip of Coke to it in my mouth, enjoy that for a moment, and swallow. > (Alright, no lewd swallow jokes!) > > Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 12:02:38 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. At 11:59 AM 10/8/02 -0700, me wrote: >you should all be ashamed of yourselves. > >scotch, people, is the only thing worth drinking. with an ice cube or two >to release the flavor, and punctuated by the occasional cup of coffee. Pshaw. Give me Maker's Mark on the rocks, and I'm happy. Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd. The Holy Bible (The Old Testament): _The First Book of the Kings_, chapter 22, verse 17 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:12:36 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mark, chapter 583. Aaron Milenski wrote: > > I think the problem is that there's always a fine line > between discussion and argument and this list tries really hard to stay away > from that line. Oh yeah? Seems to me that line gets crossed more than necessary here. Wait-- am I arguing? Jen (who likes strawberries, watermelon, beer, whiskey, Coke, Vanilla Coke, Pepsi, Pepsi Twist, mayonnaise and a variety of other sandwich lubes, but just can't get into liver). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:16:10 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Stones SACD reissues >Tim may be correct in thinking that DVD-A will eventually win out in >the marketplace, And I may be wrong! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:19:01 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. >But in all other contexts, Coke always disappoints. I guess I can take >some comfort in that. Southern Comfort and Coke? Too sweet for me. But I do like whisky, whiskey, and even mayonnaise (except on a ham sandwich--ick). As for beer, I'm with Benjamin Franklin: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wishes us to be happy." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:25:56 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:19:01 -0700, Tim_Walters@digidesign.com wrote: >Southern Comfort and Coke? Too sweet for me. No, Maker's Mark. If it's too sweet, add more bourbon. >But I do like whisky, whiskey, and even mayonnaise (except on a ham >sandwich--ick). As for beer, I'm with Benjamin Franklin: "Beer is proof that God >loves us and wishes us to be happy." I'm with you there. Isn't it time for someone to tell Eric Idle's joke about American beer? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:26:15 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] The gerbil on the exercise wheel that is my mind (meant good naturedly) In a message dated 10/8/02 10:12:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rwinston@tde.com writes: > Don't bombard us with the boring details of your whiny > existence. I really like the way my Birkenstocks are fitting today. They are more comfortable than ever, but I still feel guilty for spending so much on them. Why do I suffer from so much guilt when I buy myself anything? But wow, three resoles and they are still boppin' along. I'm so glad I don't have to go to the bathroom again. Why doesn't my phone ring from the car dealership? When will the car be ready? That jackass type A service dept. guy trying to upsell me a transmission fluid change on a manual! Why doesn't Stewart like me? I really want him to like me. Oh damn, I haven't fed the dog. When do I go into work tomorrow? 4. I wish Mom would wash her car. Did I finish all the financial aid paperwork for school? Yep. Just waiting for the appeal letter to be approved. I wish I could afford to get a new computer with a CD burner. Is my work uniform clean? I need more caffeine. God, instant coffee sucks. Oh yeah, men's group meeting at 7. That trucker really pissed me off today. Why doesn't Stewart like me? If I play my cards right next paycheck, I can buy the new Apples in Stereo CD. Did I give Missy her heartworm pill? Ouch. My heel spur. Almost out of Saw Palmetto pills. They are eleven dollars for the big bottle at Ingles. Better pick one up this paycheck. That Republican in the SUV really pissed me off earlier. Is that a grey hair? Should I buy two new tires this paycheck, or hold off? Why did the neighbors have to have tree cutters over at 8 in the morning? How rude. I wonder if Stewart will ever like me, and if he took the "Malona" thing with a sense of humor. Oh man, do I have to go to the bathroom again? Do I have change for the car wash later? I need to get that crap off the car. Have I lost a little weight? No, probably not. That Chinese was so good at lunch yesterday. Holland needs a haircut. He waits too long between them. His beard is getting so grey. Good fried chicken burritos at dinner though. I love that sauce they use, but picking up the tab for dinner sure hurt. 18 bucks plus three for the tip. The traffic here is getting so bad. Why does everyone want to live here? What's so great about this place? No, I bet I DO need to go the bathroom again. Does Stewart go to the bathroom? Roger hates me too. I wonder if he talks to Stewart about me sometimes. I wish I could be so smart and cool like them. Where do they find the time to be so up on books and movies? Do they work full time? Does Stewart have flamingos in his house all over? Roger spells his name like the Byrds guy. Cool. They will never like me. Lol. Stewart Smalley was so funny ten years ago. The "Al Franken decade." He's so underappreciated. I should watch SNL now, but the kids on their now are so annoying, especially that guy who does the news who needs to comb his hair and that chick with the little '60s eyeglasses beside him. They think they're so funny. Oh, yeah...Fallon. Jimmy Fallon. What's her name? I really need to go to the bathroom again.... You made me do this. - -Mark S. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:29:51 EDT From: DOUDIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The gerbil on the exercise wheel that is my mind (meant good naturedly) Does anyone know how to do one of those filter thingies? s ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:34:09 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The gerbil on the exercise wheel that is my mind (meant good naturedly) On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:29:51 EDT, DOUDIE@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone know how to do one of those filter thingies? Sure. It is incredibly easy unless you are running AOL 5.0 for Mac. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:36:46 -0500 From: Bill Silvers Subject: Re: Beatifics, etc. (was RE: [loud-fans] let's bash mayo, chapter 583.) Stewart wrote: >You may be disappointed to learn that three songs from the EP -- "In the >Meantime," "Outro" and "Different Stars" -- are reprised on the album, Not necessarily, as that's as I'd have expected. > but >"In the Meantime" is second only to "Jessica" in my Chris Dorn pantheon, I like the song, though for me it simmers rather than reaching a boil, so to speak. I'd probably place "Almost Something There," "Something/Anything," and "Happy To Be Sad" alongside "Jessica" if I was picking favorites (and that in relative igorance of the new record's charms). In any case, I'd certainly suggest that anybody here try to look for a copy of HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING, whether in the used bins or online somewhere. > > the new Apples In > >Stereo. I'm loathe to mention the latter for some reason, but will say that > >I'm a little disappointed after a couple of spins. > >I'm a little surprised that the overt '60s references are all but absent on >the new Apples, but I don't particularly miss them. They could only mine >that field for so long. Oddly, what I'm most reminded of are the early >albums by bands like the Primitives and the Darling Buds! It has that sort >of stripped down 'n' speedy vibe. ...which on first blush struck me as rather tossed off as much as stripped down (Apples, not the antecedents), but I suspect that I'm still wrapped up in my expectations rather than accepting things for what they are. As much as they apparently love to speed up and rock out live, I shouldn't have been surprised. I suppose that since I came to admire THE DISCOVERY OF A WORLD INSIDE THE MOONE as my favorite bag of Apples, I was looking for a variation thereof. b.s. who forgot to mention how much he's enjoying the new Supergrass record ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:42:44 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: [loud-fans] Gee, I can't imagine why this didn't work (fwd) Take the turkey drop episode of WKRP and mix it with the climax of THE MAGIC CHRISTIAN and you get: http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20021008moneydropreg31008p3.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:49:17 -0500 From: Bill Silvers Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The gerbil on the exercise wheel that is my mind (meant good naturedly) >You made me do this. >-Mark S. No, he/they didn't. Nobody stripped you of your free will, nor are they responsible for your lack of discretion- the discretion you promised you'd use when you rejoined earlier this year. Use it and the issues some have with the preening and self-absorption for public consumption might just go away. b.s. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:06:30 -0600 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The gerbil on the exercise wheel that is mymind (meant good naturedly) Bill Silvers on 10/8/2002 1:49:17 PM wrote: > No, he/they didn't. Nobody stripped you of your free will, nor are they > responsible for your lack of discretion- the discretion you promised you'd > use when you rejoined earlier this year. And Mark is certainly welcome to exercise his free will and post personal messages of mine to the List, especially when it fits into and supports his persecution complex. I notice he posted only my most inflammatory comment and not the rest of the message. So much for me trying to keep those sorts of things off list. Yes, lack of discretion is definitely at issue. Hopefully others will use their free will and use those filters. Sorry for causing more List pollution, guys. > Use it and the issues some have > with the preening and self-absorption for public consumption might just go > away. Positive encouragement/advice is a waste of time. It has the opposite effect. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:22:56 -0400 From: "Chris Murtland" Subject: [loud-fans] Scott mentioned, but he shares no information A new Shalini interview http://www.fufkin.com/fufkin_10_02_shalini.htm I guess that rumor about Scott's Recording School wasn't true... np: Workflow Methodology - "Songs About Ego Validation, or, Why We Are All Fascists" ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #354 *******************************