From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #337 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, September 25 2002 Volume 02 : Number 337 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma [Dana Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma ["Micah Bedwell" ] Re: [loud-fans] two movie recommendations ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] Where they stand there astonished [Phil Fleming ] Re: [loud-fans] Where they stand there astonished [Tim_Walters@digidesign] Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma [Stewart Mason ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:53:36 -0400 From: Dana Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma I wanted to see the big pop culture phenomenon stuff, so I saw Powerpuff Girls, but it didn't hold my interest. The style of the cartoon was good, though. Spongebob Squarepants was, well, it had a couple of moments, but the same deal (I flipped between commercial breaks). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was at the bike shop the other day, and the woman behind the counter looked at my shirt and asked, "Who is that piece of cheese?" and I said, "He is not cheese!! He is a sponge!!" and she said "Oh." The show has subtle charms. A lot of people (myself included) like it because it doesn't try to get laughs by making pop-culture references. Actually, I haven't had access to it since it became mega-popular, as we don't have cable anymore. I hope that it hasn't gone downhill. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:34:28 -0700 From: "Micah Bedwell" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma Rumours were flying around during mid-summer that SpongeBob was going to be cancelled. That their staff had been replaced. This would be bad. My daughters (-and I) would miss that show a great deal. Invader Zim, people!!! Regards, Micah Bedwell Website: not finished. http://home.earthlink.net/~noahbrtn/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Paoli" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma > I wanted to see the big pop culture phenomenon stuff, so I saw Powerpuff > Girls, but it didn't hold my interest. The style of the cartoon was > good, > though. Spongebob Squarepants was, well, it had a couple of moments, but > the > same deal (I flipped between commercial breaks). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > I was at the bike shop the other day, and the woman behind the counter > looked at my shirt and asked, "Who is that piece of cheese?" and I said, > "He is not cheese!! He is a sponge!!" and she said "Oh." > > The show has subtle charms. A lot of people (myself included) like it > because it doesn't try to get laughs by making pop-culture references. > Actually, I haven't had access to it since it became mega-popular, as we > don't have cable anymore. I hope that it hasn't gone downhill. > > --dana > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:55:24 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] SpongeBob Any cartoon that has a restaurant called the "ChumBucket" is OK by me! _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:25:40 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] two movie recommendations Going to see tonight: SECRETARY Saw last night: SKINS (pretty damned interesting if perhaps not brilliant. Recommended anyway. Gotta love the line, "YOU RATFUCKER!!! I LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!") From the director who brought you SMOKE SIGNALS. Sorry I missed: ME WITHOUT YOU (anybody see that? opinions?) Looking forward to (playing now): POSSESSION, SWIMMING, THE GOOD GIRL, DIAMOND MEN, maybe IGBY GOES DOWN Looking forward to (coming attractions): AUTO FOCUS, RED DRAGON Gotta finish watching: 3:10 TO YUMA Opinions on any of the above welcomed, Andy "Even allowing that I've worked in public housing, this was still one of the most bizarre conversations I'd ever had." - --my friend Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:54:32 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] two movie recommendations Although _Me Without You_, _Swimming_ and _Igby Goes Down_ aren't especially alike in any superficial sense, in all three cases I thought there were some really good bits in search of a better overall movie to be in. _Me Without You_'s handling of the aging of its characters reminded me pleasantly of _Career Girls_. Lauren Ambrose's character in _Swimming_ is a little like how Thora Birch's in _Ghost World_ might have turned out in a town with no counterculture. And Kieran Culkin does a magnificent Holden Caulfield in _Igby..._ that couldn't quite overcome, for me, all the thinner characters he was surrounded with. _The Good Girl_ I liked OK when I walked out of the theater, but the more I thought about it, the less I liked it, and the amount I like it seems to have stabilized at "very little". Take out John C. Reilly and Zooey Deschanel and I think you're left with poor writing attempting to pass itself off as "independent". But I'm still strongly in favor of _Possession_ and _Signs_. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:53:22 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Scott's a dad! I have found out through a very reputable source that Scott is now a daddy, to a little girl (Valerie Katherine Miller)!! Why don't we coordinate a gift or something as a list and send it to him? Sue, maybe we could send you stuff to send to Scott? - -Mark S. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:58:47 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scott's a dad! In a message dated 9/24/02 12:53:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Boyof100lists@aol.com writes: > Sue, maybe we could send you > stuff to send to Scott? > > Oh, and yeah, his wife DID have a small part to play. Maybe a gift or gifts to her as well? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scott's a dad! On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > I have found out through a very reputable source that Scott is now a daddy, > to a little girl (Valerie Katherine Miller)!! Why don't we coordinate a gift > or something as a list and send it to him? Sue, maybe we could send you > stuff to send to Scott? Since the demise of the Loud Family PO box, I'm always happy to pass along anything sent to Scott c/o my PO box. Sue Trowbridge PO Box 6133 Albany, CA 94706-0133 Put "Attn. Scott Miller" somewhere on the envelope. This information also appears in the LF FAQ: http://www.loudfamily.com/faq.html#address - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: [loud-fans] Where they stand there astonished I don't think this really requires a set-up. http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1710115 Phil F. NP... Faith No More _Angel Dust_ New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:11:36 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Where they stand there astonished He clearly brought it upon himself. Co-crediting John Cage as the co-author may have been a joke, but it's also legally binding: if someone gets composer credit, someone is due a share of the royalties, whether they had a thing to do with the writing or not. (Witness low-level mobster Morris Levy, who cut himself in on the publishing of dozens of rock and roll classics in the '50s; non-musicians Dick Clark and Alan Freed got a cut on occasion for the same reason, and Elvis Preley got cut in on the publishing of many of the songs that were pitched to him. And let's not forget the Monkees collaboratively writing "No Time" and giving the songwriting credit to the sessions' engineer Hank Cicalo as a sort of tip for his work on the album.) After all, there's a 4:33 second silence on track 11 of the two-fer CD of the Magnetic Fields' first two albums, but Stephin Merritt didn't have to give Cage a songwriting credit for it. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:13:10 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] i had to share this with you all please don't ask me why http://www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:24:38 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Where they stand there astonished >[Batt] clearly brought it upon himself. It's also possible that he planned the whole thing as a publicity stunt. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:57:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > (why God, why?) Poor Charles Nelson Reily. He's still very much alive, and > has been sent out to pasture where all the old TV celebs go. There was an > interesting article about him and old celebs (like Soupy Sales and Phillis > Diller) in Wall Street Journal recently that I caught, talking about how > nobody wants them on their shows anymore, a real evidence of the generational > shift of power that has occurred since the early '90s. This seems odd - a potential misreading of audience interest - since at the same time there's clear evidence of a powerful nostalgia for '50s and '60s celebs and that sort of Adult America culture. Not to mention CNR's Krofft brothers participation! I think that if people *would* book those folks, a lot of pop-culture nostalgia-loving folks in their twenties would dig it. > same deal (I flipped between commercial breaks). I saw the Sopranos like > I've been wanting to see for years finally, and I liked it, but the thought > came to mind if this is really representative of real northeastern US > Italian-American mob life, or is it what we think it is through years of > stereotyping, and finally believing the cliche? I mean, a black leather > Italian blazer, a Punch cigar and brushing your hair back like Jimmy Swaggart > doesn't make you mob boss. No - but it does make you look like what everybody expects a mob boss to look like from the movies, which I take it part of the point: that these guys model their image and behavior to an extent on those movies' depictions of Mafiosi. (Idiot warning: I don't have HBO and haven't actually seen _The Sopranos_, so this is all based on hearsay and seewrite.) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Some see things as they are, and say "Why?" ::Some see things as they could be, and say "Why not?" ::Some see things that aren't there, and say "Huh?" np Lloyd Cole _Love Story_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > This seems odd - a potential misreading of audience interest - since at > the same time there's clear evidence of a powerful nostalgia for '50s and > '60s celebs and that sort of Adult America culture. Not to mention CNR's > Krofft brothers participation! I think that if people *would* book those > folks, a lot of pop-culture nostalgia-loving folks in their twenties would > dig it. Charles Nelson Reilly had a recurring role on X-FILES as Jose Chung, and has been touring his one-man show, "Save it for the Stage: The Life of Reilly", which is very funny and touching: http://www.talkinbroadway.com/regional/sanfran/s130.html He is also an award-winning acting coach and director of both stage and TV. Not bad for "washed-up has-been". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:26:25 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma Charles Nelson Reilly currently tours a one-man show titled "The Life Of Reilly." He recently played NYC for a few weeks to typically full nights in a small theater. He pointedly avoids mentioning any game shows (or his fine work with the Kroffts), but it's still a great evening of reminiscing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:41:25 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] CD Explosion: The Final Chapter (God willing) Okay, things are getting kind of ludicrous as the boxes pile up here at CD Clearance HQ. I'm paying more as the supply dwindles, but I'm still compulsive enough to drop $10 for anything with an obi strip and a $29.99 price tag. The savings aren't as much fun to pass down, though. Still, I've set aside 30 sealed import CD's that'll have to go for that aforementioned $10. (And one for $12, since I'm not about to start losing money on this little hobby.) Average price tag is about double that, and it's all popular hipster brand names, so don't feel like you're getting gouged. At the very worst, it's a chance to do some relatively cheap Christmas shopping. Contact me off-list to see what's available. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:56:21 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma In a message dated 9/24/02 4:58:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jenor@csd.uwm.edu writes: > This seems odd - a potential misreading of audience interest - since at > the same time there's clear evidence of a powerful nostalgia for '50s and > '60s celebs and that sort of Adult America culture. Not to mention CNR's > Krofft brothers participation! I think that if people *would* book those > folks, a lot of pop-culture nostalgia-loving folks in their twenties would > dig it. > > I'm not in my twenties and I'd definitely dig it. I agree with you on this. The article mentioned that Conan's people (I believe it was Conan) wanted Soupy Sales to come and throw a pie on the show. But, that's all they wanted him to do. He agreed to, only if he could sit down and talk afterwards. They weren't interested. I think that's so sad. Maybe if Soupy shaved his head, donned some black rags and got some small black plastic framed attitude glasses and a tatoo or two, Conan would be interested (who is lacking IMO without Andy). This WSJ article also mentioned one of these old timers saying that there was a "ventriloquist's emergency" today, as the McDonaldization of the US has churned out a generation of generic sounding celebs. - -Mark S., happy for Scott and wondering why my posts always have screwy line breaks np: Of Montreal "Aldhils Arboretum" (their most mature work to date...good stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:36:32 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma At Tuesday 9/24/2002 10:56 PM -0400, Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: >Maybe if Soupy shaved his head, donned some black rags and got some small >black plastic framed attitude glasses and a tatoo or two, Conan would be >interested Huh? Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:46:20 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loudfan in a Coma At 10:36 PM 9/24/2002 -0600, Roger Winston wrote: >At Tuesday 9/24/2002 10:56 PM -0400, Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > >>Maybe if Soupy shaved his head, donned some black rags and got some small >>black plastic framed attitude glasses and a tatoo or two, Conan would be >>interested > >Huh? Clearly, he's referring to The Barbarian, not The Talk Show Host. Certainly anyone who had ever seen The Masturbating Bear, Robot On The Toilet, Cameltoe Annie or The Guy Who Can Ruin Any Moment (No Matter How Special) By Saying One Single Word would have a better understanding of the sort of thing that goes on on that show. But remember, Mark Doesn't Watch TV. S ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #337 *******************************