From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #317 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, September 7 2002 Volume 02 : Number 317 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Irony is a dead scene [OptionsR@aol.com] RE: [loud-fans] Hodgepodge of opinions and other crap ["Ian Runeckles & A] Re: [loud-fans] Dear Fegmaniax (ns) [OptionsR@aol.com] [loud-fans] Midnight Creeps [Paul Seeman ] [loud-fans] Midnight Creeps | lacuna [Paul Seeman ] Re: [loud-fans] Dear Negromaniax (ns) [JRT456@aol.com] [loud-fans] tres mal cinema [Boyof100lists@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Cute band alert! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Hodgepodge of opinions and other crap ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] new Statuesque [Dan Sallitt ] Re: [loud-fans] Topes! (99% Simpsons, 1% Baseball) ["David Seldin" ] [loud-fans] Top of the Pops (mindless link propagation) [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] tres mal cinema [Boyof100lists@aol.com] [loud-fans] Re: Silly Downloads [steve ] Re: [loud-fans] new Statuesque [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] Aimee vs. Coldplay (more critic-bashing) [Jeffrey with 2 ] Re: [loud-fans] Aimee vs. Coldplay (more critic-bashing) ["jer fairall" <] [loud-fans] movie opinions sought ["jer fairall" ] [loud-fans] mmm...nummy [Boyof100lists@aol.com] [loud-fans] Swap Review, Jeff Breman's CD [AWeiss4338@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 03:27:08 EDT From: OptionsR@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Irony is a dead scene In a message dated 09/05/2002 5:40:35 AM US Mountain Standard Time, jenor@csd.uwm.edu writes: > Can you say anything more about the EP? > Okay, well...it's called "Irony Is A Dead Scene". If you're not familiar with the DEP's other work, it's probably going to sound to you like The Boredoms and Napalm Death getting loaded on copious amounts of caffeine, and then having a contest to see who can figure out how to play the Rush songbook backwards first. If you are a DEP fan, you may wind up with mixed feelings about this new one. Vocalist/human blowtorch Dimitri quit last year and they've yet to record with their new full-time vocalist. They're continuing to develop musically, but Mike Patton has such an established presence already that a lot of the record sounds like a (slightly) more organized version of Fantomas or Mr. Bungle in a grindcore mood, as opposed to a new DEP record. To put it in more Loud-friendly terms, it's a bit like if "Friends of Rachel Worth" had been released as a Sleater-Kinney album with "guest vocals" by Robert Forster and Grant McLennan. It's not bad at all, but it doesn't quite feel like the rill thang, y'know? Paper, scissors, rock, Mike Bollman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:40:53 +0100 From: "Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Hodgepodge of opinions and other crap Rich wrote: > (Is there anyone else out there who thinks that this album > was their heyday and that Cracker's Golden Age had a similar > self-prophetic angle? Kind of - but the more I hear FOREVER the better it gets. I recently burnt a Cracker compilation for a friend and found that there were more tracks from FOREVER that I wanted to put on it than any other Cracker album. Wasn't Little Feat's THE LAST RECORD ALBUM the last one Lowell played on? Or maybe not. Anyway, that last real LF album that I found worthwhile. Ian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 03:44:23 EDT From: OptionsR@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dear Fegmaniax (ns) My comments on "Nextdoorland" are indeed based on an advance copy. Maybe it'll have some spiffing Robyn artwork by the time the official version comes out. Sounds like that version of "Underwater Mooonlight" that Dana mentioned is that reissue on Glass Fish (the label run by Robyn's former manager, Richard Bishop). As far as I know, the contents are the same as the original issue, but I'm not sure why they substituted the cover artwork. Any comments on whether that mixed-for-stereo version of The Who's "My Generation" is worth dropping $30 for? I try going forward but my feet walk back, Mike Bollman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 03:47:31 -0400 From: Paul Seeman Subject: [loud-fans] Midnight Creeps Apropos, as usual, of no running thread: Caught the Vultures and Midnight Creeps tonight, and to cop a memorable Scott line, they both knocked me concave. Thought I'd write 'em up. The Vultures: Imagine Link Wray covering Melvins songs. Then, every third song, imagine the Dijits covering Melvins songs. Pretty neat for the most part, and pretty successful, although for a few stretches they merely split the difference instead of indulging the weirdest elements of their competing influences and ended up playing tedious college-rock. They're new. They're on to something. They'll get better. The Midnight Creeps: The trashy, female-fronted glam-punk band John Petkovic wishes he'd been a part of. Along with the Melvins, they're the best live band I've seen this year (though P-Funk is playing here on 9/11--"Come and join in somber reflection on our nation's greatest tragedy with George Clinton and friends"). Versitile, beautiful and violently galvanizing singer (what Wendy O. Williams *thought* she was), Johnny Ramone's sister on guitar and a rhythm section that could've filled in for Naked Raygun's. As an encore they even did a wonderfully reworked version of GG Allin's "Don't Talk to Me" (my brother's band, the Mushuganas, does their own Motorhead-ish version every so often, so this was echt cool). And they're genuinely nice kids, too, from what I gathered after talking with 'em. We'll see whether they keep a few of those up-tempo numbers in their repertoire in ten years, when they're my age.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 04:51:54 -0400 From: Paul Seeman Subject: [loud-fans] Midnight Creeps | lacuna Didjits, I meant Didjits. Pardon me, Rick Sims, for I have sinned.... > Imagine Link Wray covering Melvins songs. Then, every third song, > imagine the Dijits covering Melvins songs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:48:30 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dear Negromaniax (ns) In a message dated 9/5/02 6:33:16 PM, aaron@eecs.harvard.edu writes: << On the other hand, I didn't think the new Negro Problem was out yet and it is. >> Tuesday was actually a big day for the Negro Problem, with "Post Minstrel Syndrome" and "Joys & Concerns" also being reisssued on the Smile label. The debut seemed to suffer from poor distribution, so there's a real opportunity for people to catch Stew fever. And while the new one may be their worst album, that just means it ends up in the year's Top Ten instead of the Top Five. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:23:17 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] tres mal cinema If only I could say that I saw it at a friend's house, but that would be a lie to protect my ego. "Super Troopers" has to be, without a doubt, the absolute worst film I've seen in years. Not since the '70s, when my parents had HBO, have I been exposed to such grade D fare, when movies like this were cranked out in mass quantities. I love comedies, and I thought I'd loosen up my tie a bit and get something more, I don't know, beer and Cheetos. Quelle film mistake. Those "Wonder Woman" royalties must not be coming in anymore for Linda Carter, for her to make an appearance in this movie (wasn't working with Lyle Wagner punishment enough in her life?). She better take those contact lenses out anytime this comes on the air and pretend she was never in it. Oy. Dialogue like "Who wants a mustache ride?" should give you an idea of what to expect. This movie made "Porky's" look like "Hanna and Her Sisters." I want my four dollars back. - -Mark S. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:04:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Cute band alert! On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > Just kidding. This ain't 1991, and I ain't Jane Pratt. However, I heard a > new release today by a band called Interpol...the name of the album is "Turn > on the Bright Lights," and it is pretty good. It reminds me of "Strange Free > World" era Kitchens of Distinction, with a bit of Coldplay or Radiohead or > something along those lines to give it zest. Thank you, Mark, for mentioning KoD regarding this album. I also hear bits of the Blue Nile, if folks remember them, and perhaps some Echo & the Bunnymen. Definitely an eighties sort of sound, but sans the cheesiness. Very emotive, pretty good musical range of tempi, dynamics, etc. Thank you also for not mentioning that Manchester band with the dead singer: I really only hear them in one track, yet every critic seems to be falling into lockstep and mentioning said band. Weird. I mean, the singer sings in a very different register, with much more emotion; the bass playing is entirely different; I really hear very little similarity in the guitars; and the production is far less dry than most JD (exceptions: things like "Atmosphere"). Okay, some of the keyboards are similar, but that's about it. I heard two songs from the Interpol album on the radio, which impelled me to buy the CD the same day. This does not happen often for me. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::In terms of the conjunctures of cultures, [LA is] less like a salad bowl ::and more like a TV dinner with those little aluminium barriers keeping ::all the vegetables in their places. __Catherine Ann Driscoll__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:13:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] Topes! (99% Simpsons, 1% Baseball) yet another feggy post: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:58:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Fetter http://sportserver.com/baseball/other/v-archive/story/429606p-3436072c.html - ------------------ That episode also contained one of my two favorite Simpsons visual gags: the scene in which Homer opens the door of what had been the Secret Room of Moving to Albuquerque and discovers, of course, everything removed...except for a guy with a trombone and a plunger mute, who plays the classic "whuh-whahh" thing. The kicker is, he's wearing a beret. Dunno why that last detail sends me over the edge - I guess cuz the musical cue is so completely unjazz... (My other favorite visual gag? Homer, at the breakfast table, says, "Marge, let me play devil's advocate for a moment" - after which he gets up, walks over to a pinball machine depicting a briefcase-carrying demon in a suit, and pulls the handles a couple of times.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:15:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tres mal cinema On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > of what to expect. This movie made "Porky's" look like "Hanna and Her > Sisters." So does this mean you'd recommend _Super Troopers_ to folks who'd wished _Hannah and Her Sisters_ had looked like _Porky's_? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. ::I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! __"raus"__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:30:37 -0400 From: "Amy Lewis" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] discuss dana, then jeff: >> I'm also still wondering which member of the band is supposed to be > > cute. > Hey, I'm just repeating what I've read and heard. None of them > particularly does it for me, but they're all kinda cute in a sort of > grad-student/clerk-at-feminist-bookstore way, if you're into that sort of > thing. > Those who actively lust after any member of S-K are free to weigh in more > specifically. corin tucker! corin tucker! corin tucker! though no way nohow would i kick carrie brownstein out of bed. distractedly, amy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:04:05 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Hodgepodge of opinions and other crap >Wasn't Little Feat's THE LAST RECORD ALBUM the last one Lowell played >on? Or maybe not. Anyway, that last real LF album that I found >worthwhile. Ah no, Mr. George was on board through 1979's DOWN ON THE FARM (released after his death), though AllMusic's Stephen Thomas Erlewine notes that, starting around THE LAST RECORD ALBUM, Lowell fell increasingly into dissipation. Billy Payne and Paul Barrere took over writing and arranging most of the music. So long as we're going list-crazy (long as I have anything to say about it, that is), here's ESPN's "Page 2" with the all-time Best (and Worst) (and a few other things) sports movies of all time: http://espn.go.com/page2/movies/index.html No room for THE SANDLOT? Or GO TIGERS! ? LAGAAN? Andy Other nice touches include (A) using the loudspeaker to instruct a driver to pull over after he has already pulled over, and (B) casually saying "meow" in the middle of a conversation with a curbed driver. Capt. O'Hagan is understandably distressed at the bizarre behavior of his men, and worried about the possible closing of the post. A drug bust would save the day, but his men seem fairly unfocused as they look into a promising case. "Are you suggesting," the local chief asks the troopers, "that a cartoon monkey is bringing drugs into our town?" Well, no, but it's a long story. [--from Roger Ebert's review of SUPER TROOPERS, www.sun-times.com/ebert ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:21:16 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: [loud-fans] Aimee vs. Coldplay (more critic-bashing) So far I'm liking LOST IN SPACE just fine and while I could understand why some people are so underwhelmed by it, I might be a lot more sympathetic to the critics on this one if every bad review that I've been reading of LIS didn't appear next to a glowing one of A RUSH OF BLOOD TO THE HEAD, the latest Radiohead-lite snoozefest by Coldplay (which my store has been playing non-stop for the past few weeks). Bah. Jer np: LOST IN SPACE, of course Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 12:28:25 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] spoon > > I'm mentally cataloging it in the same space where I keep the Archers of > > Loaf's "Vee Vee." The two bands don't sound much alike, but they're > > both muscular rock bands with an arty edge and a hoarse lead singer. > > But where AoL started out great and then got less and less interesting, > > Spoon seem to be improving as they go along, which is very heartening. > > Like AoL, the songwriting rarely nails a hook, but the sound and playing > > on Kill the Moonlight are so great that that's a forgivable flaw. > > i'll air an alternate view that nonetheless endorses the new one: i > thought spoon's debut (and the accompanying ep "all the negatives have > been destroyed") was a wonderful unlikely meld of the (late 70's) fall and > j. richman; angular and abrasive and hooky all in one hard-to-wrap package > (my impressions of the album may have been abetted by the truly killer > live show that introduced me to the band; i didn't buy any beer after i > realized how good they were and scrounged a couple bucks from friends so i > could get the cd at the merch table). i thought the succeeding releases > were, much to their detriment, smoother and more "ordinary" -- the new one > doesn't scratch quite the same itch as the first album, but it has a > welcome dose of more sonic weirdness than "girls can tell" or whatever, > which i thought was a real snoozer. Interesting how many different takes people here have on Spoon's career. Unlike everyone else who's posted, I think they started with a little too much Pixies-worship, produced a masterpiece with A SERIES OF SNEAKS, and then lost some of their edge. Haven't heard MOONLIGHT yet, though. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 12:37:30 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] new Statuesque > Silly question, based on random thoughts after reading an interview the > other day: how many of us here have had songs written about, to, or for > us? How did/do you feel about that, if so? My girlfriend Erica wrote two songs about me in the last two years. I was flattered. of course. But then she wrote her best song (http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/2597/2597978.html), and it was about an ex-boyfriend. What can you do. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:42:45 -0400 From: "David Seldin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Topes! (99% Simpsons, 1% Baseball) Which reminded me of one of my favorite Simpsons' moments, which stands out even more because it's nestled into a pretty average-overall episode (the Simpsons house-sit for Mr. Burns; Homer takes his yacht into international waters for a Sunday-morning party; Pirates capture the yacht ("Looks like another homosexual party boat. They always have such nice things.") and collect the party guests into a large net: Moe: Aw, we're going to die and I never tasted cantaloupe. Krusty: Eh, you didn't miss much. Honeydew is the money melon. "The money melon". It just slays me... David - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey" To: "Bucky...Firewoman...and John Cameron Swayze...." Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: [loud-fans] Topes! (99% Simpsons, 1% Baseball) > yet another feggy post: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:58:08 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jonathan Fetter > > http://sportserver.com/baseball/other/v-archive/story/429606p-3436072c.html > > ------------------ > > That episode also contained one of my two favorite Simpsons visual gags: > the scene in which Homer opens the door of what had been the Secret Room > of Moving to Albuquerque and discovers, of course, everything > removed...except for a guy with a trombone and a plunger mute, who plays > the classic "whuh-whahh" thing. The kicker is, he's wearing a beret. Dunno > why that last detail sends me over the edge - I guess cuz the musical cue > is so completely unjazz... > > (My other favorite visual gag? Homer, at the breakfast table, says, > "Marge, let me play devil's advocate for a moment" - after which he gets > up, walks over to a pinball machine depicting a briefcase-carrying demon > in a suit, and pulls the handles a couple of times.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:51:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] discuss On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Amy Lewis wrote: > > Those who actively lust after any member of S-K are free to weigh in more > > specifically. > > corin tucker! corin tucker! corin tucker! > > though no way nohow would i kick carrie brownstein out of bed. Janet Weiss also very nice, esp. when seen live. And drumming. Jeff - for more on scales and such, read Temperament: The Idea That Solved Music's Greatest Riddle. by Stuart Isacoff. A great discussion of the develoment of scales: http://wwics.si.edu/OUTREACH/WQ/WQCURR/WQBKPER/PREVBOOK/W02BK5.HTM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:52:18 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] Top of the Pops (mindless link propagation) http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/product/film_info/ 0,3699,2424640,00.html?cch=11 (a vocal extravaganza, sure to top the year end LoudFans poll) - -- Dave Walker freeform radio and irresponsible URL spreading at: http://www.freeke.org/ffg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:07:54 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] discuss >Jeff - for more on scales and such, read Temperament: The Idea That Solved >Music's Greatest Riddle. by Stuart Isacoff. Afterwards, you can read Harry Partch's GENESIS OF A MUSIC for the opposing viewpoint. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:02:55 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] One more link One: A Space Odyssey 2001: A Space Odyssey, abridged. In Lego. http://www.spiteyourface.com/one/ -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:07:22 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tres mal cinema In a message dated 9/6/02 9:15:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jenor@csd.uwm.edu writes: > So does this mean you'd recommend _Super Troopers_ to folks who'd wished > _Hannah and Her Sisters_ had looked like _Porky's_? > > Absolutely. I tried to just kick back and enjoy it as you would with a bad movie from the seventies, taking in the rankness, the cheekiness, with a smile, but it isn't a good bad film. It's just bad. I think it was made for the current crop of teens and twenty-somethings, who worship the seventies (though the movie's setting is the present) and its romantic (?) AIDS-free vision of stilettoed women with long blonde feathered hair on the side of the road in tee-shirts (tied just under their enormous breasts) and cutoff jean short-shorts, with their thumb up on one hand, and a pickle or hot dog or popsicle in the other, waiting for that big rig.... As a kid, I hated the seventies, and I hate that era still. When the eighties came along, I was so happy for New Wave and all those horrible rust and brown clothes and bell bottoms to go away, along with changes in the zeitgeist (i.e., sex having consequences/responsibilities) that I noticed but probably wouldn't have been able to put into words until I was older, but I liked it, and I'm not even a Republican. I had no idea that, like Satan being released after being bound for a thousand years, I didn't even have to wait twenty for that decade to return. Just don't see it, K? It sucks. Have a nice day. - -Mark S. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:41:10 -0500 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Silly Downloads There's always Tripping The Rift - http://www.trippingtherift.com/downloads.htm - - Steve __________ Maybe federal employees shouldn't get the double protection of unions and civil service status. It's not an unreasonable argument. If that's what the president believes, he should send up a separate bill abolishing the civil service system. What he's doing here is just using the crushed, maimed and devastated of 9/11 to prop up Grover Norquist's federal workplace policy agenda. - Josh Marshall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:30:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] new Statuesque On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Steve Holtebeck wrote: > Speaking of Bradley, he's been bugging me to tell everyone that > there's a new Statuesque album available for purchase, and a few > midtempo mp3s available for download at. > > http://www.statuesque.org.uk/MUSIC.htm Midtempo, but oh so good. Well, "Stay Broken" might not have grabbed me if I wasn't already a fan, but as it is... I will hold off on telling everyone to buy the record until I've heard it all own copy and can do it in good faith, but the man is great. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:13:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Aimee vs. Coldplay (more critic-bashing) On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, jer fairall wrote: > So far I'm liking LOST IN SPACE just fine and while I could understand why some people are > so underwhelmed by it, I might be a lot more sympathetic to the critics on this one if every > bad review that I've been reading of LIS didn't appear next to a glowing one of A RUSH OF > BLOOD TO THE HEAD, the latest Radiohead-lite snoozefest by Coldplay (which my store > has been playing non-stop for the past few weeks). Bah. By the same critics? I mean, otherwise, isn't it totally irrelevant? Oh, I get it: you're just taking this opportunity to bash Coldplay. Play on. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:36:33 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Aimee vs. Coldplay (more critic-bashing) > By the same critics? I mean, otherwise, isn't it totally irrelevant? I honestly never bothered to check but my point was that prevailing critical opinion at the moment seems to be pro-Coldplay and anti-Aimee, which I don't get. Jer np: LOST IN SPACE again Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:27:59 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: [loud-fans] movie opinions sought One of the theaters here is starting an art film series this month. This weeks film is THE DANGEROUS LIVES OF ALTAR BOYS, which Andy has already sold me on, but I know little or nothing about the other three films, THE LAST KISS, THIRTEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ONE THING and JAN DARA. Anyone care to try to sell me on/warn me away from any of them? Jer Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:51:09 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] mmm...nummy Enjoying Ben and Jerry's Karamel Sutra. Good grief, how do they do this? I know Ben and Jerry have sold the company, bought their 1967 VW microbuses, installed Alpine CD decks, popped in their Phish CDs and have driven off into oblivion, but the ice cream still rocks. Do they get flavor testers to smoke pot and say, "Uh, more chocolate chunkies, dude?" Everybody usually eats an entire container in a sitting and this particular flavor is 280 calories a serving (if you're Mini-me), so I am really taking in 1120 calories. (Do you think it's easy for me to keep up this Mr. French physique? It's work, dammit!) If you haven't tried this flavor, I highly recommend. - -Mark S. np: my tastebuds, and the Bigger Lovers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 00:41:05 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Swap Review, Jeff Breman's CD Jeff, I am so sorry this took so long but here it is. I usually use a scale of 1-5, but this time it's 1-10. I love the artwork for both disks, and enjoyed the Doleful Lion's a lot. Good, and funny pop. 1 Indigenous Dimension Didjworks, 10, nice, soothing world/dance music to dance, fall asleep to, or to spark one's creativity. I think that CD was mislabeled, no break beats here for me either. 2&3 The Seymores, Sicker Than You/The First lady From Delaware, 5 for #1-10, #2. This is good pop, song one was good, although I didn't think it was as distinctive as song two, a great one about lusting after the wife of the Gov of that state. And also charming, it's rare you hear from nice guys in pop these days who don't mope. 4&5 Soundtrack Of Our Lives, Instant Repeater '99-5, Embryonic Rendezvous-10, The first is good, but somewhat plain pop, but #2 lives up to the band's name by being like a soundtrack, and a funny one at that. 6&7 Apples In Stereo, Go, Look Away, both 10. These are the best songs I've heard from this band so far, and will now finally check out. I'd never heard enough of them to decide if I liked them, but now I have. What's the best album to start with? 8&9 The Residents Easter Woman, Amber, both 4, interesting stuff, but not really my thing. 10&11 Nickel Creek, Ode To A Butterfly, The Lighthouse Tale, both 10. Some of the best songs on the CD. I like bluegrass a lot, and had heard this band before, but like the Apples, not enough to know if I liked them. I love them. 12&13 Chem 6A, Edge Of My Seat-Switchfoot, both 5. I like them, but also kind of ordinary. 14&15 Soundtrack, Dead Grammas On A Train, Thin White Rope, both 10. At last I finally hear a band that I've been hearing about since the 80s. Very cool and great. This sounds as ahead of their time as it just have been if you heard them then. What is in print, and where. 16&17 Spring Collection, Waiting For The Weekend, The Vapors, both 10. 70's/80s power pop sounds a lot better, and more mainstream, which is kind of ironic, than what's around to day in mainstream pop. I just know Turning Japanese, I'm glad they had more than that. Are their albums still in print? 18&19 Hand Me Down, Good Year For The Grrls, both 10. John Faye Power Trip. He's from Delaware, and I must seek this album out, probably still in print, this is the band he put together after the Cawfields, his 90s band, they had a modern rock hit with a song whose title escapes me now, and never bought because I didn't like the follow up to it. Now I know I was wrong. 20&21 Remember, Rave Up/ShutUp, The Rave Ups, both 10. I know mainly their pop period, which was good but not great, these songs are better. Cowpunk, which is now alt country, was the name for it, and it lives up to the hype around that scene. I liked The Long Ryders and EIEIO a lot too, but prefer The Old 97s and Nico Case, Ryan Adams, Caitlin Cary and so on. You know why Molly Ringwald raved (sorry) about them, she was dating the lead singer, and now I feel old. I did see Pretty In Pink, good film. What is in print from them, Mark, Jeff, do you know? This was a great CD, lots of things to check out. Thanks Andrea ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #317 *******************************