From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #285 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, August 17 2002 Volume 02 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Amy Rigby, Kay Hanley, Tuuli [Bill Silvers ] RE: [loud-fans] Amy Rigby, Kay Hanley, Tuuli ["Larry Tucker" ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Rigby, Kay Hanley, Tuuli Glenn McDonald wrote: >I have never seen Amy Rigby play live, but I'm with doug that I like her >*recordings* better in seemingly inverse correlation to the amount of >production applied to them. Amy+guitar=good. Amy+ragged rock band=good. >Amy+"sophistication"=not as convincing. I haven't seen her in Amy+guitar live mode, but have seen her a couple of times with more or less full bands (most notably, at Schuba's on THE SUGAR TREE tour, with Bill Lloyd on guitar, Brad Jones on bass and Paul Griffith on drums) and both shows were quite good. I guess I'm wondering which of her tunes qualify as Amy+sophistication? Just BTW, I share the enthusiasm for Will Kimbrough's work with Ms. Rigby, but his solo record THIS from a couple of years ago just never caught my attention as much as I wanted it to. He's playing a live show here in KC in ten days or so, and I wondered if anybody has seen him recently? Does he have a new record? I'll likely go see him on general principles, and to try to do my part in preventing an embarrassment like Wednesday night's, where Allison Moorer and her five bandmates played for about twenty five people. >On this same general topic, has anybody else heard Kay Hanley's solo record >yet? I've only listened to it once, last night, but I was none too pleased. >She too has gone for what I guess is intended to be pop sophistication, and >I found myself wondering what Ally McBeal-ish TV show she was hoping to get >drafted by. I checked her website last week, played all the clips, some twice, and reached pretty much the same conclusion. I was completely ready to order the record, but just_couldn't_do_it. Given my lack of enthusiasm for Letters To Cleo the band, I guess The Josie and the Pussycats soundtrack is gonna have to be the place where I get my Kay Hanley thrills. b.s. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:15:20 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] blue blue blue color and a surge At 11:45 PM 8/9/2002 -0400, Aaron Mandel wrote: >On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Dana Paoli wrote: > >> Anyone had Pepsi Blue yet?? I have to agree that the Vanilla Coke is a >> disaster, and it should have been good. On the other hand, Orangina Red >> (which seems to have just become available here) is very nice...not too >> sweet at all. > >I liked Pepsi Blue -- the convenience store near my office used to have a >blue "fruit punch" flavor which this tastes similar to, and when the store >closed I was left slightly bereft. This reminds me of my visit to the U.K. in '87, where I enjoyed a cherry Pepsi on the boat ride from Hampton Court back to London. It was very good, IMO, combining my preferred soft drink with one of my favorite fruit flavors. I didn't see it in the US until several years later, and then it seemed not quite as good as the one I'd had back then. But then again, I was enjoying that one while on the Thames passing by Richmond and Greenwich, so maybe something about the rare and delightful quality of the day mixed with my memory of the drink's taste. I don't drink non-diet soft drinks any more unless there's nothing else to be had, but I couldn't pass up trying a Pepsi Blue when I encountered my first one on the way to West Virginia Saturday before last. Whereas Vanilla Coke is an abomination that makes my mouth feel like it's coated with a liquidized form of chalk, Pepsi Blue seemed quite pleasant, a good mix of the berry flavor with the traditional Pepsi formula. I doubt that I'll be having one again, but if there was a diet version, I might drink it ever so often as a change of pace. Since our return to Nashville last Sunday, we've seen Pepsi Blue in stores all over town, so something happened last week. But it's a low-key something. What happened to the marketing on this thing? Vanilla Coke had more dollars thrown at it than Jeffrey Loria could pocket instead of spending on players in a revenue-sharing agreement, yet I've barely heard, read, or seen anything about Pepsi Blue's launch. There's stickers on the dedicated Pepsi fridges all over town, and there's a few billboards. And that's it. I mean, I could live without the equivalent of that talking head from Coca-Cola who was on every media program from TODAY to ALL THINGS CONSIDERED during Vanilla Coke's launch (you know, the lady whose every word sounded like a robotic reading of company-approved marketing materials, even during live interviews), but I can't believe they're starting out a major product with so little fanfare. Anyone see the taste test on Letterman (it was one of the nights Springsteen was on) where the staff guy tasted Vanilla Coke, then exploded? Heh. later, Miles later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:58:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, John Cooper wrote: > "Are you willing to take this copy of INTERBABE CONCERN, listen to it > for three days, and write me an essay comparing your initial > impression with your considered opinion?" Whew! Tough test. It's been 6 years and I'm *still* working on my considered opinion. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:33:40 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Rigby, Kay Hanley, Tuuli > I guess The Josie and the Pussycats soundtrack is gonna > have to be the place where I get my Kay Hanley thrills. And if you were hoping for the record the J&tP soundtrack could have been if it didn't have to drag a glossy corporate movie around with it, I highly recommend Anna Warronker's _Anna_. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:37:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] blue blue blue color and a surge On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > I don't drink non-diet soft drinks any more unless there's nothing else to > be had, but I couldn't pass up trying a Pepsi Blue when I encountered my > first one on the way to West Virginia Saturday before last. Whereas > Vanilla Coke is an abomination that makes my mouth feel like it's coated > with a liquidized form of chalk, Pepsi Blue seemed quite pleasant, a good > mix of the berry flavor with the traditional Pepsi formula. I too don't usually drnik non-diet sodas, but on the strength of this list's recommendations, I tried a Pepsi Blue the other day. Pretty good, say I - and it was a hot day, and the bev was refreshing. The problem w/Vanilla Coke for me is it's just *too* vanilla-intensive: I have a theory that I'd like it better if I diluted with half again as much regular Coke. I think, though, I'll wait for the diet version, which is supposedly coming out in a few months. *(or not...see below) > But it's a low-key something. What happened to the marketing on this > thing? They may well be going for that low-key something - as opposed to VCoke's hard-sell. Mebbe they figure word-of-mouth will work better? Interesting how many new sodas are out there right now... Oh - and our spy at _The Onion_ is still active: see this week's front page (www.theonion.com) and note item 5 in the "How Are We Justifying Our Behavior?" STATshot. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::beliefs are ideas going bald:: __Francis Picabia__ * hmmm...looks like I read about "diet Vanilla Coke" in..._The Onion_. Mebbe not... np: Suede _Head Music_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:07:49 -0500 From: "Kunkel, Mark" Subject: [loud-fans] Some things that I don't get Somebody on this list must be able to explain something to me, as I know nothing about the business of selling CDs. I like to shop at a locally owned CD store. On more than one occasion, I've asked them to order something for me. Most recently, the live LF. Another time was Queen's Sheer Heart Attack. Or that Cotton Mather that came out last year. A few weeks go by and then they tell me they were unable to get it. How come I can go on the internet and order the same from any number of on-line stores? Why can't they do more or less the same? Are CD stores locked into exclusive arrangements with distributors? Or is my favorite locally owned store just not terribly interested in making the effort to find stuff that might be a little hard to find? Don't they have an interest in finding stuff that they can sell? I know they wouldn't be making a mint from selling one measly CD, so is it not worth the effort? And how hard can it be to find Queen's Sheer Heart Attack? I don't get it. Enlighten me, please. Thanx! P.S. Pere Ubu is playing in Chicago when I go there for a visit in Septemeber. I don't know a damn thing about Pere Ubu (despite the fact that a certain fellow list member probably played their records in his basement room in the same house we once lived in). Would I be an idiot if I didn't go see them? Are they great live, or what? _____________________________________________________ Mark D. Kunkel Legislative Attorney Legislative Reference Bureau (608) 266-0131 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:29:23 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Some things that I don't get At 04:07 PM 8/16/2002 -0500, Kunkel, Mark wrote: >P.S. Pere Ubu is playing in Chicago when I go there for a visit in >Septemeber. I don't know a damn thing about Pere Ubu (despite the fact that >a certain fellow list member probably played their records in his basement >room in the same house we once lived in). Would I be an idiot if I didn't >go see them? Are they great live, or what? Respectively, depends on whether you like Pere Ubu (which you don't know right now), and yes, they're great live. Saw them open for TMBG in '91, and even though I love TMBG (and loved them even more then), it was like Hendrix opening for the Monkees. I should have done like Greil Marcus when he left a Buzzcocks concert after seeing Gang of Four's opening set, and just left after Pere Ubu -- after Ubu, there was no way that anything TMBG did could hold any meaning for me, at least not that particular evening. They're playing the End, the tiny club formerly known as Elliston Square, here in Nashville on Sept. 17th. It's their first show here since the gig I just mentioned. I'm showing up early. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a review is not as good as a CD On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > the lines in "Harness Your Hopes" that run "Show me a word that rhymes > with Pavement/And I won't kill your parents/And roast them on a spit." > Again, half of it's the delivery... I thought it was "I *will* kill your parents". Interesting. But yeah, Malkmus is a laugh riot. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:40:29 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Some things that I don't get What Miles said. Their recording career has had ups and downs, but I've never seen an Ubu show that wasn't thrilling. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:44:02 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic Michael Mitton wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, John Cooper wrote: > > > "Are you willing to take this copy of INTERBABE CONCERN, listen to it > > for three days, and write me an essay comparing your initial > > impression with your considered opinion?" > > Whew! Tough test. It's been 6 years and I'm *still* working on my > considered opinion. > > --Michael What's to consider at such length? My opinion has changed very little since the first time I popped it into the changer. The only one I still mentally grind around a bit is PABARAT. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:57:59 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Some things that I don't get "Kunkel, Mark" wrote: > > Somebody on this list must be able to explain something to me, as I know > nothing about the business of selling CDs. I like to shop at a locally > owned CD store. On more than one occasion, I've asked them to order > something for me. Most recently, the live LF. Another time was Queen's > Sheer Heart Attack. Or that Cotton Mather that came out last year. A few > weeks go by and then they tell me they were unable to get it. How come I > can go on the internet and order the same from any number of on-line stores? > Why can't they do more or less the same? Are CD stores locked into > exclusive arrangements with distributors? Or is my favorite locally owned > store just not terribly interested in making the effort to find stuff that > might be a little hard to find? Don't they have an interest in finding > stuff that they can sell? I know they wouldn't be making a mint from > selling one measly CD, so is it not worth the effort? And how hard can it > be to find Queen's Sheer Heart Attack? I don't get it. Enlighten me, > please. Thanx! I wish I knew the answer to this, too. I got tired of this run-around and just started ordering it all online myself. Some was as easy to get as just going to amazon.com. It was weird, and the guy running the store was a friend, so he wasn't just dismissing me. He did hand his orders over to a distributor, who would then grind away for two weeks and usually come up with nothing, but I don't know if he *had* to do it that way. That store went out of business, and so did the store my friend subsequently went on to manage. Now all that's left here are big mall chain stores a considerable distance away, and a couple of used CD stores that rarely have anything I want (and one appeared to be selling Nazi literature last time I was in there), so I have no qualms about putting my business online. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:02:08 -0400 From: Dana Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic > Whew! Tough test. It's been 6 years and I'm *still* working on my > considered opinion. > > --Michael What's to consider at such length? My opinion has changed very little since the first time I popped it into the changer. [jenny] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but don't forget that you are the exception to all rules, thereby proving Michael's point. (Oh, don't worry...I'm not going to start another ruckus. It's too hot.) - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:35:02 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Amy Rigby, Kay Hanley, Tuuli - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Silvers [mailto:wsilvers@earthlink.net] Sent: Fri 8/16/2002 4:02 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Cc: Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Rigby, Kay Hanley, Tuuli Just BTW, I share the enthusiasm for Will Kimbrough's work with Ms. Rigby, but his solo record THIS from a couple of years ago just never caught my attention as much as I wanted it to. He's playing a live show here in KC in ten days or so, and I wondered if anybody has seen him recently? Does he have a new record? I'll likely go see him on general principles, and to try to do my part in preventing an embarrassment like Wednesday night's, where Allison Moorer and her five bandmates played for about twenty five people. +++++++++++++++++++ I think there's been flashes of brilliance in all of his work, Will and the Bushmen, Bis-Quits and solo but he has yet to really deliver a consistently solid album. His last solo, LIKE THIS, came really close though. Live though, his songs really come to life in a way that reminds me of another troubador, Peter Case, who to me was always was better live than on record. Will's live delivery is so heartfelt he pulls you in and he's more likely to show of his guitar talents. I saw him solo this past winter and there were about 10 people in the room. Most of those were barflys leaving the show really just for me and his manager. Despite the lack of audience, he played almost an hour long set and was really wonderful. He, I thought, poignantly closed with the old country-western standard "I'm So Lonesome I Could Die" though afterwards he joked about it. Still, it's gotta be tough to be on the road playing to virtually no one. I think he primarily makes a living doing session work in Nashville among those Kelly Willis. Go see him. I don't think you'll regret it. - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:56:41 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic Dana Paoli wrote: > > > Whew! Tough test. It's been 6 years and I'm *still* working on my > > considered opinion. > > > > --Michael > > What's to consider at such length? My opinion has changed very little > since the first time I popped it into the changer. > [jenny] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Yes, but don't forget that you are the exception to all rules, thereby > proving Michael's point. > > (Oh, don't worry...I'm not going to start another ruckus. It's too hot.) > > --dana But, am I the exception in this case? Do Loud-fans in general have a tough time deciding how they feel about this album, moreso than the other albums? Do Loud-fans in general have a tough time making up their minds about Loud Family albums? And if so, I'm curious as to which ones and why this is- why initial reactions would change drastically or feelings about a particular album remain so unresolved after years of listening? Is IBC difficult for some people, and if so, why? Oh wait, I'm sorry-- here I am talking about that Scott dude we don't seem to talk about much here. Maybe that in itself makes me an exception. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:52:52 -0400 From: Janet Ingraham Dwyer Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic At 09:56 PM 08/16/2002 -0400, jenny grover wrote: >... Oh wait, >I'm sorry-- here I am talking about that Scott dude we don't seem to >talk about much here. Maybe that in itself makes me an exception. What a great subject line anymore, don't you think? janet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:04:17 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic At Friday 8/16/2002 09:56 PM -0400, jenny grover wrote: >But, am I the exception in this case? Do Loud-fans in general have a >tough time deciding how they feel about this album, moreso than the >other albums? IBC has always been the most difficult of LF albums for me. It took me years to warm to it. I think it was hearing St. Therese live (and then going back and listening to the studio version) that finally kicked the whole album up into the Hallowed Halls. Still, it's probably the LF album I throw on least. Yes, I realize that makes me a heretic among the diehards. Ah well. The thin-sounding production and lack of sing-alongs still bugs me to this day. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:51:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, jenny grover wrote: > > > Whew! Tough test. It's been 6 years and I'm *still* working on my > > > considered opinion. > But, am I the exception in this case? Do Loud-fans in general have a > tough time deciding how they feel about this album, moreso than the > other albums? Do Loud-fans in general have a tough time making up their > minds about Loud Family albums? And if so, I'm curious as to which ones > and why this is- why initial reactions would change drastically or > feelings about a particular album remain so unresolved after years of > listening? Is IBC difficult for some people, and if so, why? I think it is, yes. I've always loved it - in fact, it's probably my favorite LF album (although it could be trimmed of a couple-three tracks and be better). But, as Roger said, not all of the songs are instantly hummable, and its production and arranging are far more harsh and blunt-edged than most of Scott's stuff. If you're asking why people's reactions might change to records over time, generally - well, I don't suppose there's any single answer, but several possibilities suggest themselves. (Actually, I'm suggesting, but I like to attribute magical properties to abstract concepts. It's fun.) One, your tastes might change over time. Two (similar to the first, but more specific), the particular aesthetic of the record in question might gradually program itslef into your listening facilities - so that now you're able to "get it," whereas before, you weren't. Three, someone might hold a gun to head and say, "like this or else." Four, some aspects of music are immediately audible - others aren't. Like, say, subtle sonic details or structural/lyrical intricacies, etc., and over time, you might notice those and like them more. Of course, the reverse can be true: I remember, for example, in the eighties always being deeply impressed at Prince's recordings. The depth of texture, sound, and so on, and the quality of the performances, always grabbed me. But quite often, after awhile their charms lessened. I'm not sure why...by analogy, I suppose they were sort of like some sort of flashy special effect, but w/o as much substance to support that flash. I still *like* a lot of Prince's records (and one, _Sign o' the Times_, worked the other way: the more I listen, the more I like it) but they aren't as magical to me as the first few times. (originally, there were going to be three more reasons in the "getting to know" paragraph, just so I could end it with "eight, eight, I forget what eight is for." But luckily, I didn't do that.) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::I'M ONLY AS LARGE AS AN ANT AND I'M HIDING INSIDE YOUR CAR:: __cryptic placemat phrase, Madison WI, 1986__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:54:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a review is not as good as a CD On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > > the lines in "Harness Your Hopes" that run "Show me a word that rhymes > > with Pavement/And I won't kill your parents/And roast them on a spit." > > Again, half of it's the delivery... > > I thought it was "I *will* kill your parents". Interesting. But yeah, > Malkmus is a laugh riot. Not sure: I didn't have the CD with me, so I did a google search, and the page I went to rendered it "won't." "Will" is actually funnier - as if someone would then search for a rhyme for Pavement - or alternately, desperately avoid the not-at-all obvious rhyme for fear... (I can come up only w/Ogden Nash-like two-word rhymes..."everything you save spent" etc.) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::beliefs are ideas going bald:: __Francis Picabia__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:55:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] The Horrible Truth About Uma Sorry - I just like the subject line. Make up your own, more fitting, post. Good thing you guys don't charge me for this stuff... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::As long as I don't sleep, he decided, I won't shave. ::That must mean...as soon as I fall asleep, I'll start shaving! __Thomas Pynchon, VINELAND__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:06:48 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Trouser Press (and a plea for Perhacs) In a message dated 8/15/02 2:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dmw@radix.net writes: > 'kay, i'm a little dense here -- are you saying that the whole > slug-bug/punch-bug game originated because the vehicles were sluggish, and > it's intended to denigrate them? > I'm saying that "slug-bug" the $20,000 vehicle ain't. I'm not saying the game is intended to denigrate them. Most 6 year-olds can't even spell that word, and they probably invented it back in the '60s. - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:13:52 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Trouser Press (and a plea for Perhacs) In a message dated 8/15/02 2:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cryptosicko@care2.com writes: > np: RETURN TO THE VALLEY OF THE GO GO'S (the acoustic version of > "Mercenary"..ahhh) > > I"ve played that track dozens of times on that album...I love Belinda when she says, "How many of you like to be mean?" She can be mean to me, I won't mind. - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:23:29 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: horribly off topic Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > I think it is, yes. I've always loved it - in fact, it's probably my > favorite LF album (although it could be trimmed of a couple-three tracks > and be better). But, as Roger said, not all of the songs are instantly > hummable, and its production and arranging are far more harsh and > blunt-edged than most of Scott's stuff. Is instantly hummable with sing-alongs a common priority for Loud-fans? No, I'm not being at all perverse or snide, just very curious. I often feel like I'm coming at Scott's music from a different flight approach, even if I'm landing on the same runway. > If you're asking why people's reactions might change to records over time, > generally - No, just Loud Family records. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:30:27 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] horribly off topic In a message dated 8/16/02 2:25:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, outdoorminer@mindspring.com writes: > You throw them Rubik's Grenade then get the heck out of the room. > > all props to SNL, > > Were they the makers of Happy Fun Ball? - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:39:10 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Am I a Hypocrite? In a message dated 8/16/02 3:49:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, outdoorminer@mindspring.com writes: > I can't confirm it either, but I thought it'd be worth mentioning that the > band on GIRLFRIEND (Quine, Sweet, Maher) is essentially the same group that > > performs my favorite album of 1990, Lloyd Cole's self-titled solo debut > (also known as _X_). And if memory serves, LC himself is part of the > choice guitar section on GIRLFRIEND, at least for five or six songs. The > playing on both albums is red-hot, so I think there's a good chance that if > > you like one of 'em, you'll like the other too. > > Absolutely. That Lloyd Cole record is fantastic. That and the Blue Aeroplanes "Swagger" were in my top five that year. Any band who covers a Sylvia Plath poem gets Kudos granola snacks from me. Baby you're too well read, - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:41:07 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] blue blue blue color and a surge I had Pepsi Blue last weekend and it was too syrupy, and I felt thirsty after drinking it. I don't think it'll last. - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:53:05 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] when did Muzak get hip? I find myself impressed by the songs playing on the Muzak at work. Tonight I heard "So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)" by you know who, and I've heard Costello, Crowded House, English Beat, Freedy, etc. I'm impressed. Anybody catch Muzak where you work? - -Mark Staples ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #285 *******************************