From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #252 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 252 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] 'ello [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! [Boyof100] Re: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! [Boyo] [loud-fans] Re: my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! [Boyo] Re: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! [Jeff] Re: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! [dmw ] [loud-fans] way more than you wanted to know (45 adapters) [Jeffrey with ] Re: [loud-fans] way more than you wanted to know (45 adapters) [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] hey lyrics geeks! [Steve Holtebeck ] [loud-fans] Jem the homewrecker? (ns) [Dana Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] Jem the homewrecker? (ns) [JRT456@aol.com] [loud-fans] Re: my mom... [Boyof100lists@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:23:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 'ello On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Max Germer wrote: > I'm back on the list, after a very extended hiatus. Just sayin' hi. Hey, welcome back, Max! So what's been up with you? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:09:42 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! I was wondering if there was an easier way to do something, and this, as always, is the perfect place to ask. My brother has taken all my mom's Wollensak (sp?) reel-to-reel tapes, and is trying to make her CDs of old family events from the '60s and '70s (hearing the voice of my father, nearly dead 20 years, is eerie). So far, He bought a working Wollensak like my mom's old one on e-bay, and he's taken all the tapes, made a huge wav file, and now he's planning on going in and cleaning up the sound and editing and burning a CD. Is there a better way to do this, that wouldn't be so tedious? I told him he should have left the sound exactly the way it was on the masters, like an eighties CD, but he said no, he wants to tweak it, but anyway. Suggestions? - -Mark Staples np: Jonathan Richman "I Jonathan" (enjoy life...dance with lesbians) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:13:41 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! In a message dated 7/22/02 10:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Boyof100lists@aol.com writes: > (hearing the voice of my father, nearly > dead 20 years, is eerie alright...don't "go there" with my awkward sentence structure ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:28:30 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Re: my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! You know, I think I may have mentioned this a couple of years ago on the list. You may have a problem, if you repeat yourself. In two years, this is how far he's come with the project. There HAS to be a better way. I will take all the suggestions and send them on to him. - -Mark Staples You know, I think I may have mentioned this a couple of years ago on the list. You may have a problem, if you repeat yourself. In two years, this is how far he's come with the project. There HAS to be a better way. I will take all the suggestions and send them on to him.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:25:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > always, is the perfect place to ask. My brother has taken all my mom's > Wollensak (sp?) reel-to-reel tapes, and is trying to make her CDs of old > family events from the '60s and '70s (hearing the voice of my father, nearly > dead 20 years, is eerie). So far, He bought a working Wollensak like my > mom's old one on e-bay, and he's taken all the tapes, made a huge wav file, > and now he's planning on going in and cleaning up the sound and editing and > burning a CD. Is there a better way to do this, that wouldn't be so tedious? I'm no expert, but I don't think so. Transform the sounds into .wav files, break them up into tracks for easier access, burn CDs - that's about it. I mean, probably with the right equipment there might be ways to do it more quickly, playing back the tapes at higher speed and reconverting to correct speed (you'd lose fidelity though), but for most people, that'd be more effort than his way. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::No man is an island. ::But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, ::they make a pretty good raft. __Max Cannon__ np: Velvet Underground _Peel Slowly & See_ disc 2 (first album +) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:35:14 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] my mom, live, Christmas '66, digitally remastered!! On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 Boyof100lists@aol.com wrote: > I was wondering if there was an easier way to do something, and this, as > always, is the perfect place to ask. My brother has taken all my mom's > Wollensak (sp?) reel-to-reel tapes, and is trying to make her CDs of old > family events from the '60s and '70s (hearing the voice of my father, nearly > dead 20 years, is eerie). So far, He bought a working Wollensak like my > mom's old one on e-bay, and he's taken all the tapes, made a huge wav file, > and now he's planning on going in and cleaning up the sound and editing and > burning a CD. Is there a better way to do this, that wouldn't be so tedious? > I told him he should have left the sound exactly the way it was on the > masters, like an eighties CD, but he said no, he wants to tweak it, but > anyway. Suggestions? sounds right to me. unfortunately, leaving them "exactly the way [they are]" doesn't really work, since what's digitized won't be "exactly" what you hear. a faster computer might help -- on my old pc some audio clean-up operations took doezens of minutes to run; on my new audio puter the same operations take about 2 minutes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:37:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] way more than you wanted to know (45 adapters) Despite the first line of the post at this link, I think you could probably pick up cool 7"-vinyl-fetishing chicks or guys by referring to a "Hutchison adapter." (It's a reprint of an article that originally appeared in (where else?) _Goldmine_) http://www.coolname.com/pipermail/maplepost-mirror/2000-September/001599.html (The dignified gentleman with his hand out is Jeeves, to whom I asked this question. Feel free to slip him a Jackson or two.) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html "Wanna come upstairs and see my Hutchison adapters?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:49:36 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] way more than you wanted to know (45 adapters) On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > (The dignified gentleman with his hand out is Jeeves, to whom I asked this > question. Feel free to slip him a Jackson or two.) No. What he really wants is for you to consign your favorite tie, or perhaps scarf, kerchief, and/or snappy little cap to the sad confines of the nearest dustbin. I don't know if I was the only person looking for one of the reusable type or what, but after looking with some dismay at zillions of listings for tables which ship with 45 RPM adaptor included and the confusing shapes of the things designed for record changers, I finally found what I think I was seeking here: http://www.kabusa.com/ACCESSS.HTM I shoulda just stuck that one in my pocket that the guy wouldn't sell me when I bought the FU's vinyl but not the Murphy's Law vinyl. But, y'know. - -- d. np callow _up is a direction not a location_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:35:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] hey lyrics geeks! The 'Baltimore Ballet' bootleg that Sue is so kindly distributing contains a late "Dead Center" with very weird lyrics. I've taken my best stab at it here: http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~aaron/scannot/lyrics.cgi?misc.txt (Scroll most of the way down to see it.) Comments + emendations would be welcome, as they would be for all those there rarities for which official lyrics sheets don't exist. I haven't listened to the Alias reissue "Dead Center" in years, but I recall it being more like the French flexi one -- no? You know, it kind of reminds me of "Asleep And Awake On The Man's Freeway", with the repetition of nouns in the short lines and the references to people driving slowly. And time reversing itself! a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:54:05 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hey lyrics geeks! Aaron Mandel wrote: > Comments + emendations would be welcome, as they would be for all those > there rarities for which official lyrics sheets don't exist. I haven't > listened to the Alias reissue "Dead Center" in years, but I recall it > being more like the French flexi one -- no? The Alias version of "Dead Center" on DISTORTION OF GLORY is the 1983 OP flexi version, which is longer than the 1984 DEAD CENTER lp version, with an extended instrumental/interview intro, but almost the same lyrics, the only difference being that the party happens "backwards" instead of "sideways" Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:06:48 -0400 From: Dana Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Jem the homewrecker? (ns) I'm actually very irritated by this, if it's true... http://www.nerve.com/screeningroom/music/luna/ ...but I'm wondering if it's not. I was kind of distracted when I talked with Dean several years ago, but I seem to recall that he had a wife and new child. Not that that necessarily means that he couldn't decide to do it with the bass player, but it just seems like a tacky move. Any gossip mongers out there know the scoop? Are Luna pulling a misguided White Stripes type move, or is Dean being a schmuck. (Or was he a single guy to begin with and I'm just remembering wrong.) Grrrrrrrrrr. I had a bad feeling about her. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:25:28 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Jem the homewrecker? (ns) In a message dated 7/22/02 4:10:11 PM, dana-boy@juno.com writes: << I was kind of distracted when I talked with Dean several years ago, but I seem to recall that he had a wife and new child. Not that that necessarily means that he couldn't decide to do it with the bass player, but it just seems like a tacky move. >> That was Dean and his wife Claudia working as Cagney and Lacee a few years ago. Don't know the status of the marriage, but at least it's no great loss seeing that project disappear for good. However, I'll still think of Marti Jones as the great Homewrecker of Indie Rock. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:00:03 EDT From: Boyof100lists@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Re: my mom... Thanks for the feedback. My brother has dragged this project out longer than the follow up to My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless," but it should be good once it is finished. It just seems like it shouldn't be so tedious, but I think he's just not spending enough time on the project. Hearing bits of the wav files, it really struck me how your voice morphs over the years. It's not just age...so many other factors play into the way you talk. The South was a lot more homogenous thirty to forty years ago, and hearing these tapes is evidence of how the influx of people from other parts of the country and the media have affected speech. My family and I sound like we just left a taping of Hee-Haw. It's cool but strange, because none of us sound anything like this now. My brother has actually picked up a Michigan accent in the years he's lived there, and people have accused me of soundlng like I'm from California, which I think is a tad stretching it, but I take that as a compliment. Since we talk about linguistic trends, I thought I'd give my two bits. - -Mark Staples np The Primitives "Lovely" (this still sounds good after 14 years) ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #252 *******************************