From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #205 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, June 12 2002 Volume 02 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... [Janet Ingraham Dwyer ] Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] query [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] One more, while I'm here... [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] NS: The Other Scott Miller Tour Dates [Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... At 10:31 PM 06/10/2002 -0700, me wrote: >for the lowest total number of travel miles to all other loud fans combined: >Columbus, Ohio - 66,432 miles. congrats to the Ingraham Dwyers! >runner up: Dave Walker in Detroit, MI - 67,652 miles Whoo hoo! However, I read this as: all other loud-fans have the lowest aggregate travel miles to get to Columbus. Therefore, you all must come visit us. We can picnic in Cornhenge. Or at the "A Sunday On The Island Of La Grande Jatte" Seurat topiary garden. Or the Longaberger building. If you forget to pack a lunch, we can stop at Wendy's or White Castle, which are both headquartered here. http://www.insouciant.com/photo/corn.htm http://www.topiarygarden.org/ http://www.longaberger.com >at the other end of the spectrum, with the highest total number of travel >miles to all other loud fans combined: >Carolyn Dorsey in Rutherford, NJ - 132,896 miles It's certainly not Brianna's fault, but this seems rather unfair given that Carolyn floated the picnic idea that got this all started. >geographic center: >Shibley's Point, Adair County, MO >closest big-enough-to-be-on-a-map town: Kirksville, MO >closest metropolitan area: Des Moines, IA Way-elp, looks like we'll have that picnic in DC after all. Or SF. And after all of Brianna's hard work, too. >i excluded hawaii and london from the travel miles calculations, but they were >part of the geographic center calculations. That's okay; you far-flung folks can come visit us as well. In fact, we wish you would. Brianna, you have now fulfilled your math requirement for the rest of your life. janet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:24:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, me wrote: > closest loud fans - Wes Vokes and Jeffrey Norman in the Milwaukee, WI area Hmm... I'm not sure exactly where Wes lives in Waukesha - he gave me only a zip code to enter in - but we're at least 30 miles apart. I can't help but think some of our Bostonians are probably closer together than that. And we're obviously excluding, say, Janet and Andy - who live in the same house. FWIW, someone I received a swap tape from some while back lives w/in a mile or two of a cousin of mine... - -j ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:58:32 -0500 From: Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... Yeah, Jeff and I are not that close... In fact, we have only met once.... Wes Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey To: "Bucky...Firewoman...and John Cameron Swayze...." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... Sent by: owner-loud-fans@s moe.org 06/11/02 09:24 AM On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, me wrote: > closest loud fans - Wes Vokes and Jeffrey Norman in the Milwaukee, WI area Hmm... I'm not sure exactly where Wes lives in Waukesha - he gave me only a zip code to enter in - but we're at least 30 miles apart. I can't help but think some of our Bostonians are probably closer together than that. And we're obviously excluding, say, Janet and Andy - who live in the same house. FWIW, someone I received a swap tape from some while back lives w/in a mile or two of a cousin of mine... - -j ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:06:26 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:31:19 -0700, me wrote: >geographic center: >Shibley's Point, Adair County, MO >closest big-enough-to-be-on-a-map town: Kirksville, MO >closest metropolitan area: Des Moines, IA > runner up met. area: Kansas City >closest loud fans - Wes Vokes and Jeffrey Norman in the Milwaukee, WI area C'mon people. Not closest to each other. Closest to the geographic center. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:45:11 +0000 From: "O Geier" Subject: [loud-fans] Funny sign at Organic Co-Op Sign above the corn on the cob: 'Corn: So Nice It Greets You Twice' Try that at Kroger, Food Lion, Giant, Haggen, QFC, etc.. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:45:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, John Swartzentruber wrote: > >geographic center: > >Shibley's Point, Adair County, MO > >closest loud fans - Wes Vokes and Jeffrey Norman in the Milwaukee, WI area > C'mon people. Not closest to each other. Closest to the geographic > center. It is as I have always claimed: Wisconsin is the secret Loudfans center. Just a few facts: Where does Janet ID have relatives? Wisconsin. Where does Steve Holtebeck have relatives? Wisconsin. In what state is the city known as a major brewing center, Milwaukee, located, thereby making it the spiritual home of several Loudfans? Wisconsin. I could go on...but it's too disturbing. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::American people like their politics like Pez - small, sweet, and ::coming out of a funny plastic head. __Dennis Miller__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:49:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] Query for the Oracle Vinyl Devotion cover "Fell From The Sun" (originally written by Kendra Smith while she was with Opal, I believe) on _Floor Model_, but I could _swear_ I've heard another version of this song, with a male lead vocal, somewhere else too. Or am I just crazy? -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:50:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] query Okay - so is the Steve Bartek who was with Oingo Boingo the same Steve Bartek who was with Strawberry Alarm Clock? And if so, that's very good news for those trying to play Six Degrees using Oingo Boingo and Lynyrd Skynyrd - since Skynyrd's Ed King also played in Strawberry Alarm Clock. Not at work, but posting as if I am, - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Sting, where is thy death?:: __Alan Gray_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:56:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] One more, while I'm here... A few weeks ago I was shopping with my fiancee and while waiting for here to try on something I heard a fairly faithful (albeit with the quirks sanded off) cover of A.R. Kane's "A Love From Outer Space." It was in the middle of a set of a bunch of top-40 ish stuff, so I was wondering who it was (and whether Alex & Rudy are getting paid :) ). -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:02:44 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Query for the Oracle At 12:49 PM 6/11/2002 -0400, Dave Walker wrote: >Vinyl Devotion cover "Fell From The Sun" (originally written by >Kendra Smith while she was with Opal, I believe) on _Floor Model_, >but I could _swear_ I've heard another version of this song, with >a male lead vocal, somewhere else too. Or am I just crazy? Maybe, but you're almost undoubtedly thinking of the Pale Saints' version of "Fell From the Sun" that's on their first album, THE COMFORTS OF MADNESS. Good cover. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:27:48 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] NS: The Other Scott Miller Tour Dates Our NC, Southwestern, and California contingents are in for a treat: Wed. June 12 The Garage Winston-Salem,NC Thu. June 13 Sundown in the City Knoxville,TN (w/ The Commonwealth) Friday June 14 Cat's Cradle Carrboro,NC (w/ The Commonwealth) Sat. June 15 Blueridge BBQ Festival Tryon,NC (w/ The Commonwealth) Wed. June 19 Yucca Tempe, AZ Thu. June 20 Plush Tucson,AZ Fri. June 21 Undici Undici Mesa,AZ Sat. June 22 McCabe's Santa Monica,CA Sun. June 23 The Fillmore San Francisco,CA Tue. June 25 KRSH Concert, Santa Rosa, CA Thu. June 27 Starry Plough Berkeley, CA Fri June 28 TBA Eureka,CA later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:31:21 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] and the winners are... JID: > However, I read this as: all other loud-fans have the lowest aggregate travel miles to get to Columbus. that's what i meant - with all that math, my writing skills went ka-plooey. Jeffrey: > Hmm... I'm not sure exactly where Wes lives in Waukesha - he gave me only > a zip code to enter in - but we're at least 30 miles apart. I can't help > but think some of our Bostonians are probably closer together than that. oops. what i meant was 'closest loud fans to the geographical center of all loudfans'. there are (i think) 9 in boston/cambridge, so they probably win 'highest concentration of loud fans in a netropolitan area'. by the way, forgot to include the method (where d=distance and L=loudfan): (d from L1 to L2) + (d from L1 to L3) + (d from L1 to L4) + ... + (d from L1 to L57) = d1 compared to: (d from L2 to L1) + (d from L2 to L3) + (d from L2 to L4) + ... + (d from L2 to L57) = d2 ... (d from L57 to L1) + (d from L57 to L3) + (d from L57 to L4) + ... + (d from L57 to L57) = d57 yes, there were 57 of you. that means (57+56+55+54+53+...+1) 1653 entries! i think... ok, now back to work for me. - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] NS: The Other Scott Miller Tour Dates On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > Our NC, Southwestern, and California contingents are in for a treat: > > Thu. June 27 Starry Plough Berkeley, CA Note that this is almost *exactly* one year after "Our Scott" Miller played the Starry Plough. I wonder if any Loud Family/Game Theory fans will show up? A couple of days ago, I was speculating on "What if Scott ever released a solo album?" It seems like "Scott Miller" has been cruelly snatched away from him by The Other Scott Miller, and he might have to release it under the name Scott W. Miller or come up with a pseudonym, like the Legendary Stardust Cowboy. Oops, that one's taken. - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:38:07 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: [loud-fans] Preamplification A while back there were one or two people looking for home stereo preamps, of the more-sound less-feature variety. I'm in the same position (my NAD's phono section just went from "intermittent" to "dead"), and doing a little research came across this baby: http://www.parasound.com/products/preamps/php850.html which seems perfect, at least on paper, and the price is fairly astonishing. It's also rackmountable, and even local. Anyone have any experience with Parasound? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:26:08 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] One more, while I'm here... I think that Tahiti 80 did this cover. Now can someone tell me the name of the group who did the original version of "Blue Line", later covered by Let's Active? MB np - Brian Eno, "Back In Judy's Jungle" At 12:56 PM 6/11/2002 -0400, Dave Walker wrote: >A few weeks ago I was shopping with my fiancee and while waiting >for here to try on something I heard a fairly faithful (albeit with >the quirks sanded off) cover of A.R. Kane's "A Love From Outer >Space." It was in the middle of a set of a bunch of top-40 ish stuff, >so I was wondering who it was (and whether Alex & Rudy are getting >paid :) ). > > -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:34:09 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] One more, while I'm here... Michael Bowen wrote: > Now can someone tell me the name of the group who did the original version > of "Blue Line", later covered by Let's Active? The Outskirts - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:07:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] One more, while I'm here... Michael Bowen said: > I think that Tahiti 80 did this cover. After a little hunting I was able to confirm that this is the cover I heard. Most of their catalog is on Emusic, so I'll download, though if the savage reviews on the All Music Guide are to be believed I probably shouldn't. (AMG reviews are wildly inconsitent in general, though...) -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:42:31 -0400 From: Dana Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] One more, while I'm here... > After a little hunting I was able to confirm that this > is the cover I heard. Most of their catalog is on > Emusic, so I'll download, though if the savage > reviews on the All Music Guide are to be believed > I probably shouldn't. (AMG reviews are wildly > inconsitent in general, though...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The savage reviews on AMG should not be believed. "Puzzle" is a fine album, and most of the comparisons in AMG seem a little farfetched to me. It's not a *great* album, but there are a few standout tracks (especially the "Mr. Davies" song that comes in for criticism). There's a jazzy side to some of the songs that the reviewer seems to miss entirely. BTW, re: Allmusic reviews that *are* on the money: the best Swans album, long out of print and not all that easy to find even when it was, has been reissued. Anyone who likes the band may want to check out "Feel Good Now," which documents their live show circa "Children of God." It's one of those few live albums that vastly improve on the studio stuff and for what little it's worth, it's one of my favorite albums of all time and space. It's very nice that it's finally more widely available. In view of what happened with the Children of God/World of Skin reissue, it might be wise to purchase sooner rather than later. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #205 *******************************