From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #201 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, June 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 201 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Dee Dee Ramone (RIP) ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume [Chris Prew ] [loud-fans] T-Bone Burnett lyric question ["John Sharples" ] [loud-fans] ex-gt content [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume ["Roger Winston" ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume [Tim_Walters@digidesign.com] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] I can't believe we all missed this one... ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume [dmw ] [loud-fans] CD9, CD9 [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] recommendation? ["Pete O." ] Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume / Crawling Walls [Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dee Dee Ramone (RIP) >On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Steve Holtebeck wrote: > > > just saw this.. > > > > Dee Dee Ramone, a founding member of punk pioneers the Ramones, died > > Wednesday night in his Hollywood home,according to a spokesperson for > > the L.A. County Coroner's office. The bassist was 50. > > >http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1455048/20020606/ramones.jhtml?headlines=true > Just to set the record straight. A good friend of Dee Dee's informs me that Dee Dee did not die of an unintentional overdose--it was suicide. Dee Dee had been clean from drugs for several years now, and it's sad that all of the press releases focus so heavily on his past drug abuse. I'll always remember Dee Dee for his words at the Hall of Fame induction. The Ramones really didn't get along at all for years and years and you have to appreciate the way he turned the feud into a source of humor. Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:47:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 08:58 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Meanwhile, Wire's playing in Chicago on Sept. 14 - it wouldn't be such a > bad thing if various Wire fans on this list considered a get-together > before that show... I'm all over that... sounds good. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:20:01 -0500 From: Chris Prew Subject: [loud-fans] CD Volume Okay, so we9re playing CD9s in the restaurant. The problem we are running into is that newer CD9s play much louder than the older CD9s. I was in there last night, and the Pavement CD was overbearingly loud, but then James Brown was almost too low to hear. I need to find a happy medium. Is there a line device I can buy that can adjust the overall volume to a reasonable level, no matter the volume of the source recording? We are using standard home stereo equipment and a CD changer. And what the heck would you call said device? Thanks to the stereophiles in the house.... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:13:47 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Chris Prew wrote: > Is there a line device I can buy that can adjust the overall volume to a > reasonable level, no matter the volume of the source recording? We are using > standard home stereo equipment and a CD changer. > > And what the heck would you call said device? my short answer: you'd call it a compressor/expander (with optional brickwall limiter), and no, i don't think there is a device that will do what you want without adversely affecting the musical quality of the signal. in addition you'd have the weird problems that arise when trying to match pro line-level gear with consumer audio line-level gear. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:16:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Chris Prew wrote: > Okay, so we9re playing CD9s in the restaurant. The problem we are running > into is that newer CD9s play much louder than the older CD9s. I was in > there last night, and the Pavement CD was overbearingly loud, but then James > Brown was almost too low to hear. I need to find a happy medium. > > Is there a line device I can buy that can adjust the overall volume to a > reasonable level, no matter the volume of the source recording? We are using > standard home stereo equipment and a CD changer. That sure would be nice - older CDs tend to be recorded a lot less "hot" than newer ones. I think Frank Black's _Teenager of the Year_ is one of the loudest CDs out there - and it *starts* quiet to fool you, then the loud guitars kick in and knock your walls over. But what is a "CD9"? (rogue shift key, methinks...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: np: John Southworth _Mars, Pennsylvania_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:37:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume Certain "library oriented" music playing applications (I know iTunes does it, and I think MusicMatch Jukebox does it too) allow you to store playback volume and EQ settings along with individual songs/albums. Certain portables (I know the iPod does this, other players do too, I think) will honor these settings when you transfer your songs to the player. You could rip your CD's and set up playlists ahead of time, and save volume settings per recording. This would give you the advntage of being able to playlist things by mood or theme (which could be cool in a restaurant setting) and you wouldn't need to keep a large number of CD's at the restaurant. Sync your iPod (or whatever) in the morning before you go into work, plug it into your tuner once you get there. I love my iPod. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:46:57 -0500 From: Chris Prew Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume > --But what is a "CD9"? (rogue shift key, methinks...) > > For some reason, when I post to this list, it converts all my apostrophe9s to > 9s. It doesn9t do this for other lists i9m on or personal emails, so it must > be something with smoe.org. Probably when it converts html emails to text. > > if whoever is maintaining things wants to to check it out, im running mac os x > 10.1.4 on a g4 tower, running MS Entourage 2001. > > and if you guys think I9m going to learn how to type sans apostrophes just for > you, well you can forget it. > > Chris np: some spacy psych mp3s by Subarachnoid Space. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:53:55 -0400 From: "John Sharples" Subject: [loud-fans] T-Bone Burnett lyric question I'm having trouble making out one of the words in the third verse of "Boomerang" from T-Bone Burnett's TRUTH DECAY. "She went up the staircase, with a sleazy [???] Who could not help staring through her flimsy cocktail dress..." Anybody know what he's saying there? Miles? I've searched the net and can't find the lyrics. 'Neath the bamboo trees, JS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:51:56 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume Using apostrophes to form plurals is bad enough; if this new habit of using "9"s to form them catches on I may be driven to killing sprees... ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Prew To: Quick Judgers, Long Time Begrudgers Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: [loud-fans] CD Volume Okay, so we9re playing CD9s in the restaurant. The problem we are running into is that newer CD9s play much louder than the older CD9s. I was in there last night, and the Pavement CD was overbearingly loud, but then James Brown was almost too low to hear. I need to find a happy medium. Is there a line device I can buy that can adjust the overall volume to a reasonable level, no matter the volume of the source recording? We are using standard home stereo equipment and a CD changer. And what the heck would you call said device? Thanks to the stereophiles in the house.... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:08:13 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] ex-gt content GT alum Suzi(e) Ziegler shows up playing bass on _Hope Chest_ the solo record from Pinehurst Kids' Joe Davis. Like the last Pinehurst platter, this one was recorded by Larry Crane, my leading candidate at the moment for "engineer who can do wrong." You might thing of the record as being to _Bleed it Dry_ as _Either/Or_ was to _Mic City Sons_, or you could just go to CDbaby.com and take my recommendation at face value, and/or listen to the samples to confirm my opinion. dept. of things-which-i-agree-with-sharples-about: Saint Low is good, real good. In fact, i think both of the "Saint" records are better than all the Madder Rose albums, except maybe for _Panic On_. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:23:21 -0600 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume Chris Prew on 6/7/2002 10:46:57 AM wrote: > > For some reason, when I post to this list, it converts all my apostrophe9s > to > > 9s. It doesn9t do this for other lists i9m on or personal emails, so it > must > > be something with smoe.org. Probably when it converts html emails to text. > > > > if whoever is maintaining things wants to to check it out, im running mac os > x > > 10.1.4 on a g4 tower, running MS Entourage 2001. > > > > and if you guys think I9m going to learn how to type sans apostrophes just > for > > you, well you can forget it. There's your problem right there: "When it converts html emails to text". Anyone who sends out e-mails in anything other than plain text format should be shot. No, I take that back. Tortured, and THEN shot. Hie thee now to your "send e-mail formatting options" and change "html" to "plain text". That goes for the rest of you sending out in HTML or RTF also. Please keep in mind that not everyone on the list is using an e-mail client capable of formatting non-text messages. A number of people are still using good ol' PINE, for example. You should only use those options if you are sure the person on the other end has a compatible e-mail client (Outlook to Outlook, for example). Thank you in advance for listening to and accepting the word of King Rog. Latre. --Rog (living in Pet Peeve-ville) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:39:43 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume >my short answer: you'd call it a compressor/expander (with optional >brickwall limiter), and no, i don't think there is a device that will do >what you want without adversely affecting the musical quality of the >signal. Actually, I think compression could be beneficial in a restaurant situation. With sufficiently slow attack and release, you could even out volumes without destroying the transients. You'd lose musical dynamics, but you lose them in a worse way when quiet passages disappear into the crowd noise. >in addition you'd have the weird problems that arise when trying to match >pro line-level gear with consumer audio line-level gear. I'm pretty sure you can buy a compressor that runs at -10dBv, which is close enough to consumer gear to work fine. I prefer not to have background music at all, or at least that the music be designed to work in the background a la Satie and Eno. But I'm probably in the minority. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:47:15 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume > my short answer: you'd call it a compressor/expander (with optional > brickwall limiter), and no, i don't think there is a device that will do > what you want without adversely affecting the musical quality of the > signal. well, anything that changes the signal can be considered adversely effect-ive. >:) BUT... how much ya willin' to spend? ask anyone with a pirate radio station, and they'll tell you how to do it. or hunt something down on line. i don't have the time today to bother folks for the specifics, but i've been around that crowd for a number of years, and what they refer to (and what dmw mentioned above) as a compander (aren't they hip?) will do the job, but unless it's super high quality (think broadcast radio quality) things will get muddy/crackly/jumpy sounding. also, radio station techs can be downright friendly and forthcoming. if you find a station who's sound you like, call 'em up and ask them what they're using. (odd side note: i've been lucky enough to hear the same song on two stations at the same time when spinning the dial, and got to really hear the difference - not in signal strength, but in quality.) it's more than likely the tech will tell you, then tell you they have an old one sitting around that's not quite as good, but it's on the way to the dump. (hint: don't tell them it's for a business - just that you're interested.) probably more info than you want, but there it is. brianna - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dmw" To: "Chris Prew" Cc: "Quick Judgers, Long Time Begrudgers" Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Chris Prew wrote: > > > Is there a line device I can buy that can adjust the overall volume to a > > reasonable level, no matter the volume of the source recording? We are using > > standard home stereo equipment and a CD changer. > > > > And what the heck would you call said device? > > > in addition you'd have the weird problems that arise when trying to match > pro line-level gear with consumer audio line-level gear. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:57:36 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume well. it appears that i am either wrong or there is very little info out there online. i guess that's what i get for having a partial understanding of something. ...be afraid - i used to get paid to do sound on occasion... of course, it's been about 10 years... - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "me" To: Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume > > my short answer: you'd call it a compressor/expander (with optional > > brickwall limiter), and no, i don't think there is a device that will do > > what you want without adversely affecting the musical quality of the > > signal. > > well, anything that changes the signal can be considered adversely > effect-ive. >:) > > BUT... how much ya willin' to spend? ask anyone with a pirate radio > station, and they'll tell you how to do it. or hunt something down on line. > i don't have the time today to bother folks for the specifics, but i've been > around that crowd for a number of years, and what they refer to (and what > dmw mentioned above) as a compander (aren't they hip?) will do the job, but > unless it's super high quality (think broadcast radio quality) things will > get muddy/crackly/jumpy sounding. > > also, radio station techs can be downright friendly and forthcoming. if you > find a station who's sound you like, call 'em up and ask them what they're > using. (odd side note: i've been lucky enough to hear the same song on two > stations at the same time when spinning the dial, and got to really hear the > difference - not in signal strength, but in quality.) it's more than likely > the tech will tell you, then tell you they have an old one sitting around > that's not quite as good, but it's on the way to the dump. (hint: don't > tell them it's for a business - just that you're interested.) > > probably more info than you want, but there it is. > > brianna > > -- > "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." > -- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dmw" > To: "Chris Prew" > Cc: "Quick Judgers, Long Time Begrudgers" > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:13 AM > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Chris Prew wrote: > > > > > Is there a line device I can buy that can adjust the overall volume to a > > > reasonable level, no matter the volume of the source recording? We are > using > > > standard home stereo equipment and a CD changer. > > > > > > And what the heck would you call said device? > > > > > > > in addition you'd have the weird problems that arise when trying to match > > pro line-level gear with consumer audio line-level gear. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:01:40 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I can't believe we all missed this one... > Yeah, that's right: first the pets, then the humans...and then we'll be > just where the mutant crossbreeding alien overlord Michael Jackson-loving > scum want us. i'd welcome it, personally. except for the michael jackson part. but hell, if i can stop carrying a wallet, i'll be a happy girl. gimme the damn barcode already. implant my cell phone, pda, and ham radio (yes, ham radio). and i want them to control my home appliances so i can turn my A/C on an hour before i leave work. and you think i'm joking. ...pop goes the can of worms... - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey" To: "One Day the Diamonds Were All Depleted Uranium" Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I can't believe we all missed this one... > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, O Geier wrote: > > > Here's part of a story from the P-I about pets which were spooked during > > the Seattle earthquake of 2001( relevant section in bold). > > > * Before an earthquake, get an identifying computer microchip implanted > > in your pet. > > > Does Art Bell know about this? > > --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > J e f f r e y N o r m a n > The Architectural Dance Society > www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html > ::the sea is the night asleep in the daytime:: > __Robert Desnos__ > > np: Canon BJC-6000 printer - printing, as it happens, an image of Scott > Miller - originally photographed by (drumroll) Mark Staples! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:51:37 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: [loud-fans] recommendation? I just heard that a recent album by a guy named David Graham is really great. I can't figure out who he is or what it's called, though. Anyone know? It's power pop or retro 60s-style pop. Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:01:54 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 Tim_Walters@digidesign.com wrote: > >my short answer: you'd call it a compressor/expander (with optional > >brickwall limiter), and no, i don't think there is a device that will do > >what you want without adversely affecting the musical quality of the > >signal. > > Actually, I think compression could be beneficial in a restaurant situation. > With sufficiently slow attack and release, you could even out volumes without > destroying the transients. You'd lose musical dynamics, but you lose them in a > worse way when quiet passages disappear into the crowd noise. > > >in addition you'd have the weird problems that arise when trying to match > >pro line-level gear with consumer audio line-level gear. > > I'm pretty sure you can buy a compressor that runs at -10dBv, which is close > enough to consumer gear to work fine. > > I prefer not to have background music at all, or at least that the music be > designed to work in the background a la Satie and Eno. But I'm probably in the > minority. i yield to Tim's superior knowledge, with the additional pitiful excuse that the "restaurant" part somehow failed to register. makes much more sense there than for home use, i think. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:23:16 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] CD9, CD9 It would help if I sent things to the right list. Now Rog's already trumped me. While I'm in preface mode -- Mr. Sharples, I'm away from my collection right at the moment, but will endeavor to hazard a TRUTH DECAY lyrical guess this evening. At 11:16 AM 6/7/2002 -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >But what is a "CD9"? (rogue shift key, methinks...) I'm thinking HTML-ized apostrophe (where the bottom of the ' leans to the left) turned into a "9" by demime. Note not only "CD9s" but "we9re." overnight sensation, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] recommendation? David Grahame has released 4 CD's, all on what I assume is his own label, Dog Turner Records. The first, "Toy Plane" was list as #25 on Goldmine's "Top 25 Power Pop Albums Of All Time". It's a blatant homage to the Beatles (McCartney, to be more precise) and Emitt Rhodes. He made his inspiration even more obvious by naming his 2nd release "Beatle School Graduate 1970". His last official release was "One Brick Short", followed by a fan-only, (almost) free-for-the-asking goodbye entitled "Emitt Road". The first 3 were available briefly at places like NotLame but David has more or less thumbed his nose at the music industry and said enough's enough. He also contributed a song to Yellow Pills, Vol. 4. If your a fan of Chris Von Sneidern, McCartney or Rhodes-style pop, these are highly recommended. - --- Aaron Milenski wrote: > I just heard that a recent album by a guy named David Graham is really > great. I can't figure out who he is or what it's called, though. Anyone > know? It's power pop or retro 60s-style pop. > > Aaron > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:01:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume / Crawling Walls > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Chris Prew wrote: > > > Okay, so we9re playing CD9s in the restaurant. The problem we are running > > into is that newer CD9s play much louder than the older CD9s. I was in > > there last night, and the Pavement CD was overbearingly loud, but then James > > Brown was almost too low to hear. I need to find a happy medium. I wish I lived in your town, so I could visit this magical restaurant that plays Pavement followed by James Brown. Who cares what the food's like when the music's that good? :) BTW, has anyone here heard of a band called the Crawling Walls? I was doing some spring cleaning in my tapes collection, and found a high quality Sony chrome tape with no J-card or label. After googling several of the lyrics (it took a while to get a hit), I established that it was an album by the Crawling Walls. They seem to have sort of a Farfisa-based, party-band sound. Does anyone know who they are? And did anyone ever tape them for me or Joe? I haven't the foggiest idea where this tape came from, but since people on loud-fans have been my biggest source of tapes over the years, I figured this was the place to ask. - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:19:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] T-Bone Burnett lyric question On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, John Sharples wrote: > I'm having trouble making out one of the words in the third verse of > "Boomerang" from T-Bone Burnett's TRUTH DECAY. > > "She went up the staircase, with a sleazy [???] > Who could not help staring through her flimsy cocktail dress..." Uh, "guy named Les"? "Rudolf Hess"? "drunken mess"? "Eliot Ness"? - --Jeff Jeffrey Norman, Posemodernist University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of Mumblish & Competitive Obliterature http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:30:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume (this message utterly pointless) On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Roger Winston wrote: > Thank you in advance for listening to and accepting the word of King Rog. > > Latre. --Rog (living in Pet Peeve-ville) First Roger alludes to some land I supposedly own but have seen zulch from in the way of proceeds, and then he claims to be King of Pet Peeve-ville - a domain I believe I have ruled over for quite some time now. There's some sort of quasi-medieval skullduggery going on here, and I want it resolved without resort to the playing of Jethro Tull. But yea, let there be a concordat, on which we are both agreed, that HTML text in e-mail is e-vil. I might still call my utterly hypothetical band Apostrophe 9, however. And can we hurry up and set de-MIME loose in the world, esp. in France? What I really want is a device that can tap into annoying neighbors' cell-phone conversations, analyze the voice patterns, and synthesize one or the other party's voice saying obscene things to the other... And what the hell: it can turn on Brianna's a/c as well. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, never one to shy away from easy, obvious mime jokes J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism:: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:49:26 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume (this message utterly pointless) At 04:30 PM 6/7/2002 -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >And can we hurry up and set de-MIME loose in the world, esp. in France? >>What I really want is a device that can tap into annoying neighbors' >cell-phone conversations, analyze the voice patterns, and synthesize one >or the other party's voice saying obscene things to the other... And what >the hell: it can turn on Brianna's a/c as well. Didn't the old man in RED have one of those? Or was that Cartman? I get confused sometimes. Where are those THREE COLORS DVDs anywho? later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:08:20 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume (this message utterly pointless) > What I really want is a device that can tap into annoying neighbors' > cell-phone conversations, analyze the voice patterns, and synthesize one > or the other party's voice saying obscene things to the other... i've, um, HEARD that you can do this with ham radio equipment and a sound manipulation program, but i wouldn't know much about either of those things, since using those things for that purpose would be illegal. it's also not likely that i know anything about making said equipment bleed over tvs and radio in adjacent households or vehicles for the sole purpose of amusement or alerting nerby drivers of their stupidity. - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:35:43 -0600 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD Volume (this message utterly pointless) Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey on 6/7/2002 10:30:49 AM wrote: > First Roger alludes to some land I supposedly own but have seen zulch from > in the way of proceeds, An allusion which I'm pretty sure was made in a PRIVATE e-mail... "zulch"? > There's some sort of quasi-medieval skullduggery going on here, and I want > it resolved without resort to the playing of Jethro Tull. How about Queen and David Bowie and Thin Lizzy then? According to A KNIGHT'S TALE (which I finally saw last week), that's the music they listened to in the middle ages. An aside to Miles: rumor is that Miramax is going to put out the Three Colors DVDs by the end of the year. Or at least that's what thedigitalbits.com says. Latre. --Rog P.S. Anyone else catch Sarah Michelle Gellar's extremely huge prosthetic nipples during the SPIDER-MAN parody in the MTV Movie Awards last night? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:49:44 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] T-Bone Burnett lyric question Sounds like "a sleazy Mideast guest". At 12:53 PM 6/7/2002 -0400, John Sharples wrote: >I'm having trouble making out one of the words in the third verse of >"Boomerang" from T-Bone Burnett's TRUTH DECAY. > >"She went up the staircase, with a sleazy [???] >Who could not help staring through her flimsy cocktail dress..." > >Anybody know what he's saying there? Miles? I've searched the net and can't >find the lyrics. > >'Neath the bamboo trees, > >JS ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #201 *******************************