From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #200 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, June 7 2002 Volume 02 : Number 200 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Picnic ["Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" ] Re: [loud-fans] Snacks [John Cooper ] Re: [loud-fans] If you didn't care about Oh-OK... [JRT456@aol.com] [loud-fans] Wire North American tour dates [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] Anyone heard... [Matthew Weber ] Re: [loud-fans] Dee Dee Ramone (RIP) ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? [Cyndy Patrick Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Picnic Ok, I've been in the wilds of Suffolk for a few days without a phone line trying to avoid the Jubilee, so hope it's not too late to enter and skew things eastwards... Lat 51.569 Long 0.013 - can't find a decimal conversion of this. For lat/long freaks, I'm about 250 yards east of the Greenwich meridian - - which is nice :-) Ian ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jun 2002 01:30:59 -0700 From: me@justanotherfuckin.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? yeah, yeah, okay, okay... had a full day meeting today. love it when they tell you about something like that two days ahead of time and refuse to give you an agenda. yes, i still have a job, and so does everyone else. so, in the interest of fairness, i'll leave the 'polls' open for a full week, so everyone has a fair chance to get tehir coordinates counted, and i'll let y'all know then. fair? fair. tired. going to bed. it's DAMN hot here. 97F at 7pm at my office. b On Wed, 05 June 2002, "John Sharples" wrote: > > I *knew* the Boston people were slacking... > > >i don't have: > >> brett milano > >> aaron mandel > >> glenn mcdonald > >> cyndy patrick > >> dan schmidt > >> charity stafford > > > >but i do have 2 x > >> stewart mason > > Charity was Stewart's plus-one, but... > > All these other stiffs are from Boston/Cambridge, which is, like, *several > hundred miles* east of Washington DC, so YOU do the math. > > > Oh, that's right, you ARE doing the math. > > > But, still. Eh...eh...? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 04:51:50 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? Cambridge representing: N 42 21 59 W 71 5 59 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 05:31:54 -0400 From: timv@triad.rr.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Picnic On 4 Jun 2002, at 15:14, Chris Murtland wrote: > woo hoo NC, > willing to travel to DC > or Kansas > > Lat: 36.095427 | 36:05:43.537N > Lon: -080.265076 | 80:15:54.274W > > > > > > And apparently 3 part-timer/lurkers that I know of: > > > > Tim Victor > > > > ana morales > > > > Chris Murtland dammit, i wasn't going to do this :-) Greensboro NC Lat: 36.080785 36:04:50.826N Lon: -079.877238 79:52:38.057W Tim Victor timv@triad.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] If you didn't care about Oh-OK... On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 JRT456@aol.com wrote: > ...then maybe you'll be interested in Collector's Choice reissuing an album > with a Scott Miller credit.... > > http://www.ccmusic.com/item.cfm?itemid=CCM02922 about flippin' TIME! you haven't heard anything more about those alleged a&m swimming pool q's re-ish's have you? the site seems to have no news on that front. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 07:48:37 -0700 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Snacks On 6/6/02, John Sharples wrote: >Just got home from Richard Buckner and Saint Low at the Mercury Lounge. >Yeah, yeah you've heard it all before from me about Saint Low, ok, Mary's my >ex-gf, I'm biased, blah blah, but Jesus, you gotta at least sample something >from their amazing TRICKS FOR DAWN..."Friends, I Have Been Drinking" is the >pick to click...seven months pregnant, and Saint Mary was just stellar... And how was Buckner? I've been reading about the "two sides of Richard Buckner" all week on Doubters, his fan list. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:58:53 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] If you didn't care about Oh-OK... In a message dated 6/6/02 7:29:36 AM, dmw@radix.net writes: << you haven't heard anything more about those alleged a&m swimming pool q's re-ish's have you? the site seems to have no news on that front. >> As last reported from Jeff Calder, negotiations were ongoing with A&M, and he was confident enough that he was already figuring out whether to release them individually or both on one CD. I'll be in Atlanta next week, so maybe I'll find out more. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:12:37 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] Wire North American tour dates >The following dates are now confirmed for Wire's North American tour in >Spetember 2002. > >SAT 7 SAN DIEGO CA - Casbah >SUN 8 LOS ANGELES CA - El Rey Theater >TUE 10 SEATTLE WA - Showbox >FRI 13 MINNEAPOLIS MN - First Avenue >SAT 14 CHICAGO IL - Metro >WED 18 NEW YORK NY - Irving Plaza >SAT 21 ATLANTA GA - Echo Lounge > >more dates plus details of special guests to follow Jeffrey, the Chicago gig is a Saturday, so you won't have to make a weeknight drive back to Seligland... Stay tuned to http://www.posteverything.com and http://www.pinkflag.com for updates... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:47:05 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: [loud-fans] Anyone heard... A group from the Bay Area called somebody-or-another's Big Laugh? We've got them in our 99-cent jazz bin at work, and while I was examining it trying to figure out what gave anyone the idea it was a jazz CD, I noticed that Alison does some backing vocals. If anyone has heard it - worth dropping a buck on? - -- Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:03:03 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Anyone heard... At 08:47 AM 6/6/02 -0700, Elizabeth Brion wrote: >A group from the Bay Area called somebody-or-another's Big Laugh? We've >got them in our 99-cent jazz bin at work, and while I was examining it >trying to figure out what gave anyone the idea it was a jazz CD, I noticed >that Alison does some backing vocals. If anyone has heard it - worth >dropping a buck on? This is Victor Krummenacher's Great Laugh, I think. It ain't jazz by a long shot--Victor used to be in the Monks of Doom, and Camper Van Beethoven before that. I really like his solo work; it's not as jokey as CVB or as self-consciously weird as the Monks' stuff. Singer-songwriter-y rock with a southwestern country tinge to it, definitely worth a buck, especially if it's the album OUT IN THE HEAT. Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley Say now Shibboleth: and he said Sibboleth: for he could not frame to pronounce it right. _The Holy Bible: The Old Testament_, The Book of Judges, chapter 12, verse 6 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:02:49 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: [loud-fans] Dee Dee Ramone (RIP) just saw this.. Dee Dee Ramone, a founding member of punk pioneers the Ramones, died Wednesday night in his Hollywood home,according to a spokesperson for the L.A. County Coroner's office. The bassist was 50. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1455048/20020606/ramones.jhtml?headlines=true Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dee Dee Ramone (RIP) On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Steve Holtebeck wrote: > just saw this.. > > Dee Dee Ramone, a founding member of punk pioneers the Ramones, died > Wednesday night in his Hollywood home,according to a spokesperson for > the L.A. County Coroner's office. The bassist was 50. > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1455048/20020606/ramones.jhtml?headlines=true On another, less sane, note: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1455009/20020605/limp_bizkit.jhtml?headlines=true Like shooting fish in a barrel to go after this nimrod, but please...like anyone gives a rat's ass about Fred Durst's "post-September 11 pledge to give peace a chance." He can't even be original in his alleged ideology. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:16:58 -0400 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: [loud-fans] I'd chime in with my coordinates, but... ...the damn US-centrist form can't do a thing with my non-US coordinates. Can anyone help? Anyway, I'm in Montreal, which might skew things NE a pinch. Rick - -- "The stout woman behind the counter looked as though she had spent her life waiting, but not for me" ******Ross Macdonald, "The Zebra-striped Hearse"****** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:17:48 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I'd chime in with my coordinates, but... i've found that if you do a google search for "lat lon decimal Montreal", you'll probably find it. - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Gagnon" To: Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: [loud-fans] I'd chime in with my coordinates, but... > ...the damn US-centrist form can't do a thing with my non-US > coordinates. Can anyone help? > > Anyway, I'm in Montreal, which might skew things NE a pinch. > > Rick > -- > "The stout woman behind the counter looked as though > she had spent her life waiting, but not for me" > ******Ross Macdonald, "The Zebra-striped Hearse"****** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:43:40 +0000 From: "O Geier" Subject: [loud-fans] I can't believe we all missed this one... Here's part of a story from the P-I about pets which were spooked during the Seattle earthquake of 2001( relevant section in bold). PET MISSING? Seattle Animal Control and The Humane Society for Seattle/King County advise: * If your pet flees in an earthquake, physically check animal shelters daily. * Spread the word. Post lost-animal notices. Notify neighbors and nearby veterinarians. * Before an earthquake, get an identifying computer microchip implanted in your pet. * If you find a dog or cat, file a found-animal report with Animal Control and take the animal to a nearby vet to have it scanned for a microchip. * Keep a pet evacuation kit handy. Consult with your vet or The Humane Society at 425-641-0080 or www.seattlehumane.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- I love the tip "Before an earthquake, get an identifying computer microchip implanted in your pet." That's opposed to 'During an earthquake'. Support anti-Spam legislation. Join the fight http://www.cauce.org/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? On 5 Jun 2002 me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: > i don't have: > > aaron mandel I was just going to stay quiet until it was all over, but having been called out by name twice, I will post the damn coordinates: Lat: 42.375068 Lon: -071.104480 a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:55:27 +0100 From: "Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? > i took the liberty of adding our two london representatives, > since they have been noticeably absent throught this, and > guess hwat? we're out of kansas! You should have mine now, but it's purely academic since I doubt very much whether Phil or I would make it across the pond - unless a Fairport Convention Cropredy style AL/SM/GT/LF thing is planned of course! We will, however, be in Canada in October travelling west-east Vancouver-Toronto... Ian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:46:55 -0400 From: "John Sharples" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Snacks The JDC: >And how was Buckner? Can't really comment, as I was in the bar, separate from the band room at the Merc, only hearing Buckner through the door. Saint Low gigs for me are kind of like a college reunion, always a bunch of people there I rarely see or haven't seen in years. Last night was no different. Buckner, from what I could tell, sounded fine, just what I expected from his albums. Sorry I can't provide more or better impressions. As for Saint Low, they comprised an almost entirely different line-up from the one I'd been seeing the last few years, the one that made the first SL album. This was the one that made TRICKS FOR DAWN, and they were exceptional. A little more smooth and accomplished than the first version--they handled the debut album material beautifully: dreamy and haunting, as it should be--but there's a jazzy kick to the new stuff that totally got over. Mary displayed more confidence and command than I've ever seen from her, and that's saying a lot, because by the end Madder Rose were solid veterans of the large hall/small arena tours of duty, as both headliners and support act. JS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:21:23 -0400 From: Cyndy Patrick Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? I guess it's somewhat interesting to find the exact geographic center of loudfandom, but as for selecting a location for a gathering, why not make it an interesting desitination (like, oh say, San Francisco) instead of the actual epicenter? That said, here are the Boston coordinates according to the RefTools site: Latitude: N 42 21 30 Longitude: W 71 3 37 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:53:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I can't believe we all missed this one... On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, O Geier wrote: > Here's part of a story from the P-I about pets which were spooked during > the Seattle earthquake of 2001( relevant section in bold). > * Before an earthquake, get an identifying computer microchip implanted > in your pet. Yeah, that's right: first the pets, then the humans...and then we'll be just where the mutant crossbreeding alien overlord Michael Jackson-loving scum want us. Does Art Bell know about this? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the sea is the night asleep in the daytime:: __Robert Desnos__ np: Canon BJC-6000 printer - printing, as it happens, an image of Scott Miller - originally photographed by (drumroll) Mark Staples! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:58:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Big Lake State Park, MO? On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Cyndy Patrick wrote: > I guess it's somewhat interesting to find the exact geographic center of > loudfandom, but as for selecting a location for a gathering, why not > make it an interesting desitination (like, oh say, San Francisco) > instead of the actual epicenter? I'm angling for the epicenter, because a series of unanticipated events has made air travel a financial impossibility for us for a while - but realistically, it's probably cheaper for almost anyone who's outside of maybe half a day's drive to fly to a major metro area like SF or Boston than it would be to get to, say, Tulsa (I say this utterly w/o checking facts, so hit me over the head with a clue-by-four if need be). Meanwhile, Wire's playing in Chicago on Sept. 14 - it wouldn't be such a bad thing if various Wire fans on this list considered a get-together before that show... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::The more you drive, the less intelligent you are:: __Miller, in REPO MAN__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:43:49 +0100 From: "Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Anyone heard... Matt says: > This is Victor Krummenacher's Great Laugh, I think. It ain't > jazz by a > long shot--Victor used to be in the Monks of Doom, and Camper > Van Beethoven > before that. I really like his solo work; it's not as jokey > as CVB or as > self-consciously weird as the Monks' stuff. > Singer-songwriter-y rock with > a southwestern country tinge to it, definitely worth a buck, > especially if > it's the album OUT IN THE HEAT. Hey Elizabeth, if you don't like it, send it my way :-) I *love* OUT IN THE HEAT, it's an all time fave, nary (is that a word?) a duff track on it. ST JOHN'S MERCY is not half bad either and the latest one, the name of which escapes me is fine too. Map Reference 51.569 0.013 ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #200 *******************************