From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #177 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, May 17 2002 Volume 02 : Number 177 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] secret identities... ["me" ] [loud-fans] manic [jenny grover ] [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth [Carolyn Dorsey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] secret identities... which reminds me - and i now have the use of all the keys on the keyboard, thankfully - my boyfriend watches DragonBall Z. recently, there was a character named Bobbity, who was an evil magician of sorts, with an assitant/henchman named Bibbity. they were trying to raise enough power to hatch an evil menace named, predictably if it had originally been an american show, Boo. Bibbity, Bobbity, Boo. sigh... - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hamlin" To: "Roger Winston" ; "the sound of the collective grumbling " Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] secret identities... > >Evidentally you missed the discussion of Spike we had on-list last week. > To reiterate, my fish with the very brief lifespan was named after him. > Anyone name their dog Ein? > > > Ein Spike? Dry! > > Ver, > > And(y) > > "There's a difference between hiphop and rap. Though white and black people > like rap, it's mostly whites who are into hiphop." > > --DJ Funkdaddy, aka Greg Buren, from an article by Charles Mudede at > http://www.thestranger.com/2002-05-02/feature.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:09:13 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: [loud-fans] manic http://www.manicasylum.com/index2.html This film is scheduled to be shown at both Sundance and Toronto Film Festival. If anyone gets to see it, I would like to hear about it. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:44:04 -0700 From: Carolyn Dorsey Subject: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth Do you look at the keys when you type? I had to take typing in high school and my teacher was very serious about *never* looking at the keys. I was able to type 40 words a minute without looking. And this was on a horrible manual typewriter with keys that stuck. Now I always look. Carolyn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:51:20 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth On Thu, 16 May 2002 21:44:04 -0700, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: >Do you look at the keys when you type? > >I had to take typing in high school and my teacher was very serious about >*never* looking at the keys. I was able to type 40 words a minute without >looking. And this was on a horrible manual typewriter with keys that stuck. I only look for numbers and symbols. I missed that day in high school typing. Of course that was on nice electric Selectrics. There was something so much more satisfying about typing on a Selectric. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:31:24 -0500 From: zkk46@ttacs.ttu.edu Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth > On Thu, 16 May 2002 21:44:04 -0700, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: > > >Do you look at the keys when you type? > > > >I had to take typing in high school and my teacher was very serious about > >*never* looking at the keys. I was able to type 40 words a minute without > >looking. And this was on a horrible manual typewriter with keys that > stuck. I could only type about 25 words a minute in HS with about 10 errors per line, and that was on a computer, and we could use the backspace key on the tests. Now that I spend a good amount of time as a programmer, I can type faster than I can think (and our bogged down servers can keep up with). If you want to get good at typing, work with perl or cgi or shell or vb or c++ or sql, and pretty soon, you will be able to type numbers, characters, symbols, and even the special symbols that you can only reach by typing alt + a number without looking. Shell in unix is probably the worst, if you don't have your stuff configured right, you even have to use the escape and shift and colon and caret just to scroll through to read a document, much less type anything, as the arrow keys and space bar don't really work. music: ?Anybody else think that Yankee Hotel Foxtrot sounds kinda like a Pavement record? The really sleepy vocals on most of the songs scream 'Range Life' and 'Bring on the Major Leagues' to me. Gonna name a kid Qwerty 'cuz I don't believe in touchdowns, Andrew np: Mitch Hedburg: he's pretty funny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:56:12 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth At Thursday 5/16/2002 09:44 PM -0700, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: >Do you look at the keys when you type? Generally, yes. But I don't need to. It's a crutch. I've typed this entire e-mail without looking at them once (precognition is a wonderful thing). Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 00:36:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth On Thu, 16 May 2002, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: > Do you look at the keys when you type? Not usually. For weird things - like diacritical marks and the like, yeah - - cuz in GatesWorld one has to type, like, ALT-0243 to get them, and that gets too weird. However, at my off-campus job, we have a very irritating electric typewriter (we occasionally need to fill in forms & such) that lacks any sort of little bump or ridge on the "f" or "j" of home row. This means I'm always sliding sideways and suddenly typing in Welsh, as tjere s mp ;pmger amu omdocatopm tjat ,u fomgers are om tje wrpmg [;ace imto; O ;ppl at tje [age/// Pp[s! Very annoying... I have no idea what rate I type at - I was pretty fast at electric typewriters in the early '80s, and I distinctly remember the first few times I used computer keyboards, everyone feared for the life of the keyboards, as I'd slam down on them quite hard. Apparently, the typewriter I was used to had a very stiff action. Similarly, because insofar as I'm used to playing a guitar (this list has pretty much taken up the leisure time I used to use playing guitar), I'm used to an acoustic. So when I get my hands on an electric, suddenly I'm always bending things out of tune, being used to having to apply considerably more pressure to fret the strings. - --Jeff Jeffrey Norman, Posemodernist University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of Mumblish & Competitive Obliterature http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth On Thu, 16 May 2002, Carolyn Dorsey wrote: > Do you look at the keys when you type? Yes, even though I've been programming for about 20 years. I could type w/out looking, but, as Roger wrote, it's a crutch - I'm not confident enough to not look. Andrew's right - if you want to learn to type fast, start programming. vi rules! J. Mallon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:46:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: [loud-fans] PAL/NTSC VHS player Anyone know where to get an inexpensive VCR that plays both PAL & NTSC tapes? Camera World apparently used to sell them, but doesn't any more. Off-list if you wish. Thanks, J. Mallon ------------------------------ Date: 16 May 2002 23:48:02 -0700 From: me@justanotherfuckin.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth > >Do you look at the keys when you type? > > Generally, yes. But I don't need to. It's a crutch. i'm with you. i found out a few months ago that i don't need to look anymore. and when i figured that out, i was so amused that i tried, and succeeded, to _imagine_ typing things, and where the keys would be and had no problem. now THAT's pathetic. i am, however, exceeding lazy, and type while i'm doing other things, like having conversations, so i make a horrendous amoutn of typos - usually transposed letters. (every time i type anything that ends in ING it comes out IGN. when i was in high school, my dad bought a typing program for our *gasp* 386. i could do 60 words per minute with about 95% accuracy. 100% took me down to around 55 wpm. no idea what i can do now. probably not nearly as much, but i can type pretty damn fast. ed types with his two first fingers. actually, no, he doesn't. he types with one first finger and one middle finger. weird. painful to watch. miserably slow. brianna ------------------------------ Date: 16 May 2002 23:56:01 -0700 From: me@justanotherfuckin.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Question--tell the truth or you can just go here and find out how fast you REALLY type. http://www.typingtest.com/ i took the Huck Finn test. 54 wpm, 100% accuracy. then i took the Strategic Alliances one and got 55 words per minute, but had errors in 2 words, 96% accuracy, and net speed of 53 wpm. so i guess my optimum is 54 wpm. i think they should have one with no caps and lots of