From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #165 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, May 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 165 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] cd burning [me@justanotherfuckin.com] Re: [loud-fans] cd burning [Brisk14300@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] cd burning [Miles Goosens ] [loud-fans] Zapped! ["O Geier" ] Re: [loud-fans] cd burning [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Steve's mix [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Zapped! [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Steve's mix [Dan Sallitt ] [loud-fans] Heart ["O Geier" ] Re: [loud-fans] Review: Larry Tucker's March Swap CD ["jer fairall" ] [loud-fans] welcome! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: [loud-fans] Steve's mix ["Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" ] Re: [loud-fans] welcome! [AWeiss4338@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] cd burning ["me" ] [loud-fans] QuickTime Time Cube [steve ] Re: [loud-fans] The Best Bootlegs in the World Ever [Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd burning At 11:59 PM 5/6/2002 -0700, me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: >so. what's a good copying program, and what are good cds? Program: CDRWin is what I use, and if I need to make any changes to the .wav files (fades, trimming silence, trying to get all the tracks to around the same level which is a real challenge when putting 1980's and early '90s CD material together with mid-'90s-to-present material), I use CoolEdit. I've had very good luck with both programs. And while this isn't a issue for you and your new speedy machine, both programs use a fraction of the resources that the ubiquitous Roxio Easy CD Creator sucks up ("sucks" being the operative word). Curiously, Roxio makes the state-of-the-art CD burning software for the Macintosh, Toast. Good CDs: My Yamaha 4x4x16 has been omnivorous as far as brands go, but Mitsui, Quantegy, and Taiyo Yuden seem to be the most successful on the widest variety of CD players, as was Kodak before the exited the CD-R business this year (they're selling off their remaining branded discs at discount prices at ). Unfortunately you won't find those brands at Target or CompUSA unless some of the "big" name brand CDs (TDK, Sony, Imation) are Taiyo Yuden under another name. Rather than try to figure out where a particular batch of TDKs was manufactured, I just order blanks in quantity from American Digital . later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:41:44 +0000 From: "O Geier" Subject: [loud-fans] Zapped! Christ! They're airing it on Comedy Central...Which means edited for television..What's the point? C'mon guys, you know what I'm talking about.... Support anti-Spam legislation. Join the fight http://www.cauce.org/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 11:13:06 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd burning At 11:59 PM 5/6/2002 -0700, me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: >this new machine has what i've been told is a decent burner, but i >burned a copy of something with a lot of slow, quiet, simple tracks, >and i can hear pops throughout the cd. they're not limited to one >track - they're all over the place. they're really quiet, but i can >certainly hear them. i'm probably not using even decent media - >it's a regular old Memorex 100mb cd - one of the spool kind - 50 >for $15, you know the kind... i used the stock copying program, >whatever that is. I use Cakewalk's Pyro program for burning, which is simple, dirt-cheap and completely reliable. Like Miles, I do all my editing and other tweaking with Cool Edit 2000 and the Audio Cleanup plug-in, which are both utterly essential if you plan on converting LPs or tapes to CDs. As for media, I just had very good results with a box of 50 Fujifilm discs that cost $20 at BJ's Wholesale. Charity and I burned the whole box last week (our wedding favor was a mix CD, an idea we stole outright from her boss) and not a single one of them crapped out, which is *exceedingly* rare. Stewart NP: NOT FOR THE DISCO -- Camille Davila ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 11:38:15 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Steve's mix At 08:45 PM 5/6/2002 EDT, AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: >6 Windy The Association, Desiree The Left Bank: I only know the hits from >these bands, and while I like TLB song a lot, I give the nod to Windy as this >rocks. Any good comps from either where i could start with them. There's a Left Banke comp that you can find used anyplace called THERE'S GONNA BE A STORM that has almost everything they ever did on it. Rhino just released an excellent Association comp, the title of which escapes me. >7 Elizabeth Einstein Adam Schmitt: Sounds like a good lost Fleetwood >Mac/Lindsey Buckingham song. Anything around from him, I wouldn't mind >hearing more. He has an excellent album on Parasol called DEMOLITION that came out last year. I prefer it to both of his early '90s releases on Reprise. >11 Judy Over The Rainbow The Orgone Box, who are these guys, and what do they >have out. This is a real find. Very retro in all the right ways, mid 60s >Beatles style, including a singer who sounds *a lot* like John lennon. Trippy >as anything. They only have one album, THE ORGONE BOX, on the UK label Minus Zero, but it's terrific. You can probably find it at Parasol or Not Lame. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:38:36 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Zapped! In a message dated 5/7/02 7:46:10 AM, ocgiii@hotmail.com writes: << Christ! They're airing it on Comedy Central...Which means edited for television..What's the point? C'mon guys, you know what I'm talking about.... >> You mean they're going to cut out Merritt Butrick's scenes? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 12:35:13 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Steve's mix > There's a Left Banke comp that you can find used anyplace called THERE'S > GONNA BE A STORM that has almost everything they ever did on it. It's true, but as a Left Banke comp it leaves out some of Michael Brown's best work of the period (the Montage album, the great Steve Martin single) and includes a lot of less stellar Left Banke material from the post-Brown period. Not that all that later stuff is bad by any means, but it's not as distinctive as most of the songs from Brown's period. There was a compilation called HISTORY OF THE LEFT BANKE in the 80s that was way more sparse than THERE'S GONNA BE A STORM - in particular, it included only three songs from the first album - but it included the Martin single "Two by Two/Love Songs in the Night" and some other good tracks. It's probably years out of print. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:56:34 +0000 From: "O Geier" Subject: [loud-fans] Heart Okay, Bravo had a interview/performance show last night featuring Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart. They played Barracuda, These Dreams, maybe another. Nancy played great, but used this shit sounding flange on her guitar. They interview very well. Ann does not seem as self concious as she used to be. She seemed very confident, and didn't seem to be hung up about her weight (which she appears to have lost some since the 'Lovemongers' days). Ann is really proud that Nancy got to sing their biggest hit 'These Dreams'. It was strangely watchable for a non Heart diehard like myself. I always loved 'Kick It Out', and never though of them as a 'chick band', although Pat Benetar rocked a little harder than Heart, I always considered her a 'chick band'. Worth seeing if it repeats. Support anti-Spam legislation. Join the fight http://www.cauce.org/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:48:15 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Review: Larry Tucker's March Swap CD > > >Along with Jimmy Eat World, I think the Connells have > > >the record for appearing on the most Loud-Fans Swap CDs. I don't mean to brag here, but I can remember back three years when I was the only one putting Jimmy Eat World on mixes. Good to hear that they're making the rounds these days (and on the radio! I've encountered "The Middle" on Top 40 Celine/Matchbox 20 stations!!). > How about Sloan? Cotton Mather? I think XTC may have all of the above beat, at least according to the mixes that *I've* received. Jer np: "A Stroke of Genie-us" (indeed) Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:07:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd burning On 6 May 2002 me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: > this new machine has what i've been told is a decent burner, but i > burned a copy of something with a lot of slow, quiet, simple tracks, and > i can hear pops throughout the cd. they're not limited to one track - > they're all over the place. they're really quiet, but i can certainly > hear them. i'm probably not using even decent media - it's a regular > old Memorex 100mb cd - one of the spool kind - 50 for $15, you know the > kind... i used the stock copying program, whatever that is. I've used Nero with good results - but I recommend you download Exact Audio Copy for ripping from CD (www.ExactAudioCopy.de): it's got great error correction, plus you can rip from ranges instead of just tracks (in case you have Prince's _Lovesexy_ or that Blast First! _Total War_ comp, each of which is indexed at only one track). Nero comes with a .wav editor: it's okay, but GoldWave is a bit more versatile (www.goldwave.com). It's $40 shareware. I'm still on my first spool of blank CDs - I used TDK and have had good luck. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::As long as I don't sleep, he decided, I won't shave. ::That must mean...as soon as I fall asleep, I'll start shaving! __Thomas Pynchon, VINELAND__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:31:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] welcome! Please welcome to this world my newest nephew, Maxwell Magnus Norman, born yesterday morning to my sister-in-law Emily and brother Greg. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::I play the guitar. Sometimes I play the fool:: __John Lennon__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:38:14 +0100 From: "Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Steve's mix Andrea, then Stewart > >11 Judy Over The Rainbow The Orgone Box, who are these guys, > and what > >do > they > >have out. > > They only have one album, THE ORGONE BOX, on the UK label > Minus Zero, but it's terrific. You can probably find it at > Parasol or Not Lame. "They" is basically Rick Corcoran, the album as Stewart says is brilliant (except for one track There'll Always Be Attitudes which I always skip) and can be ordered direct from Minus Zero on www.minuszerorecords.com or, in the US, Ray at Kool Kat should have it - www.koolkatmusik.com Bill Forsyth at MZ's been threatening to release some more Orgone Box should this CD prove successful. I'll hopefully be popping over there at the weekend so I'll find out how it's doing. Anybody visiting London should make a beeline for MZ and say hi to Bill and Mick, there huge Scott fans - Scott and Kristine visited MZ to say hi during their Euro-tour last year. Ian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:42:59 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Best Bootlegs in the World Ever I just want to go on record as saying that these awful hybrids do for music what those garish imagine-the-celebrity-child morphings on Conan do for photography. Aaron can attest that the "Come On Eminem" one made me spasm violently. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:55:42 -0700 From: dc Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Heart O Geier wrote: > Okay, Bravo had a interview/performance show last night featuring Ann and > Nancy Wilson of Heart. They played Barracuda, These Dreams, maybe > another. > Worth seeing if it repeats. yeah, that was cool! made me feel 12 again. they closed with "Crazy On You" (without the flanger) which was excellent. anybody know anything about that show? i think i saw they had Elvis Costello as a guest, and Wyclef Jean is next. the host seems perpetually awkward, but conceptually it's pretty neat. dc vicinity of seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:52:45 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] welcome! In a message dated 5/7/02 5:31:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jenor@csd.uwm.edu writes: > Please welcome to this world my newest nephew, Maxwell Magnus Norman, born > yesterday morning to my sister-in-law Emily and brother Greg. > > Congrats! Cool name too. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:08:09 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cd burning my brain has just hit critical mass. thanks so much to everyone for all the information! i have a list of things to try tonight, and a MUCH better idea of what may have caused the ticks in the duplicate. - - the media was 'decent' - - the copy speed was WAY too high - - i didn't do a test phew! well, tonight i'll see what i can do. by the end of this process i should have a few slightly glitchy copies of HALOU/WISER, if anyone wants one.... brianna - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:53:35 -0500 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] QuickTime Time Cube http://sub-zero.mit.edu/~rhett/ - - Steve __________ "When we were getting ready to announce for the 1992 campaign, the Bush people said to us, 'Don't run this time -- wait four years and you'll have a free pass. If you do run, we'll destroy you.' And I said to Bill, 'What are they talking about -- how could they do that?' And now we're finding out." - Hillary Clinton to David Talbot, March 1998 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Best Bootlegs in the World Ever On Tue, 7 May 2002, glenn mcdonald wrote: > I just want to go on record as saying that these awful hybrids do for > music what those garish imagine-the-celebrity-child morphings on Conan > do for photography. Aaron can attest that the "Come On Eminem" one made > me spasm violently. glenn was laughing as hard as I've ever seen him laugh. He's just holding off on admitting that he loves songclashes until someone makes a Roxette vs. Wu-Tang one. a ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #165 *******************************