From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #148 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, April 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 148 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] rush [Jon Gabriel ] Re: [loud-fans] rush [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Suddenly I find myself intrigued by the LPGA (Distinctly OT and NS) [me@justano] Re: [loud-fans] Wilco question [Aaron Mandel ] RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic ["Larry Tucker" ] RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic ["Keegstra, Russell" <] Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic [Miles Goosens ] Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic [jsharple@bls.brookl] [loud-fans] Head [was scott rocks] [Miles Goosens ] Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Head [was scott rocks] [John Cooper ] [loud-fans] NS: Grandpaboy? ["Kunkel, Mark" ] [loud-fans] CD storage, once again ["Kunkel, Mark" ] Re: [loud-fans] NS: Grandpaboy? [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic ["jer fairall" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] rush - --- me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: > > > > > > OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!! > > > Sheesh. If I had known there were any Rush fans > among us, I would have > > brought it up a while ago. Not to brag or anything, but I saw Geddy, Alex & Neil for the SIGNALS tour. That's right... Old school (well, middle school at least). To continue my boast, guess who opened for Rush... That's right, Golden Earring. Thank you very much. Later I'll tell you about the time I saw Tommy Tutone open for ZZ Top. Jon, a/k/a, "the luckiest S.O.B. in rock 'n' roll" ===== 777777777777777777777777777777 JON GABRIEL mesa, arizona usa inkling communication + design 777777777777777777777777777777 Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:35:23 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] rush Jon Gabriel wrote: > > Not to brag or anything, but I saw Geddy, Alex & Neil > for the SIGNALS tour. That's right... Old school > (well, middle school at least). To continue my boast, > guess who opened for Rush... That's right, Golden > Earring. Thank you very much. I saw them on the Permanent Waves tour. Hell if I remember who opened for them. Jen ------------------------------ Date: 23 Apr 2002 00:58:31 -0700 From: me@justanotherfuckin.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Suddenly I find myself intrigued by the LPGA (Distinctly OT and NS) http://sports.yahoo.com/pga/gallery/20020421/1019436850lpga_longs_drugs_rcp107.html entirely too damn funny. now how am i supposed to stop laughing and go to sleep? that poor woman... brianna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:27:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Wilco question On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, triggercut wrote: > First off, are you sure it was YHF clips at Amazon.com? Nooooo. Damn. I am hard of thinking, and as a result, I wrote "Amazon" when I meant "CDNow". > even the first clip, for "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" sure as hell > doesn't sound "commercial" in any way, shape or form. Well, okay, yeah, but this is the problem with viewing a record through those 30-second clips; it was sort of strange but also instrumental and the first track, and I assumed it was an intro. > I've never really loved any Wilco album from start to finish, and didn't > get all the hubbub over SUMMERTEETH at all--it just left me cold. That > said, I think YHF is the best rock and roll album to come out in the > last five to ten years. Hm. I guess either I will or I won't... thanks for the feedback. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:33:33 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic |-----Original Message----- |From: Elizabeth Brion [mailto:elizabeth@fringehead.com] |Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:39 PM |To: loud-fans@smoe.org |Subject: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic | | |I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that some of you make |the occasional mix for someone who is not already a Loud Family |disciple. Edging further out, I'm going to assume that you sometimes |put Loud Family songs on said tapes. Which ones do you use? Popular entries for me to include would be "Way Too Helpful" and "Aerodeleria", and if I really want to provoke a reaction the hauntingly beautiful "Slit My Wrists". Of the GT songs I'll often throw in "I've Tried Subtlety" though I've gotten many favorable resposnes to "Where You Going Northern". For the "rock camp" it would have to be "Dripping with Looks" for me. |Back off-topic: Anybody wanna see photos from my wedding reception? |http://www.fringehead.com/wedding/reception | |Let's see if I can exceed my allotted bandwidth... Elizabeth, you do indeed look terrific and happy. And on the Brion's attire...it takes me back to my(our) own wedding some 25 years ago. In fact Jon's suit looks a little *too* familiar. Ha ha ha. Do we have any kids? No we like dogs better, besides they'll clean up anything that lands on the floor in the kitchen. - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:42:34 -0500 From: "Keegstra, Russell" Subject: [loud-fans] rush/max webster Brianna, Jon, et al: > > > OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!! > > > Sheesh. If I had known there were any Rush fans > > among us, I would have brought it up a while ago. > >Not to brag or anything, but I saw Geddy, Alex & Neil >for the SIGNALS tour. That's right... Old school >(well, middle school at least). To continue my boast, >guess who opened for Rush... That's right, Golden >Earring. Thank you very much. Yeah, but did you see Max Webster open for them? In fact, if you were at the Phoenix show in, what, May? 1981? you would have seen the last Max performance - that's when Kim Mitchell called it quits. I still have some really horrible pictures from the Kalamazoo show they played a few months before that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:50:40 -0500 From: "Keegstra, Russell" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic Newly-Wed Elizabeth: >"Inverness" seems safe for the pop folk, but I can't quite >decide on an equally accessible song for the rock camp. Well, let me just plug a vote for one of my favorite, accessible rock tunes, "Asleep and Awake on the Man's Freeway". Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:10:07 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic At 12:52 AM 4/23/2002 -0400, jenny grover wrote: >Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >> >> I've found "I just don't think I'd be able to resist the delicious flavor" >> to be a good inquiry-killer. > >Somewhere in there is a joke about the George Foreman Baby Grill. "Why are people protesting about heavy metal when there's that awful Madonna song about cannibalism out now. You know, the one where she sings 'I made up my mind, I'm eating my baby / Yeah, I'm gonna eat my baby?'" - letter to CREEM magazine, 1986 later, Miles, who is rather fond of the first two Alice in Chains albums, thank you very much ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:54:08 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] write your own punchline As if there wasn't enough joy to be had with Gookie Dawkins sticking on the Reds' roster, and the Raiders drafting for at least their third Napoleon (expect Al Davis to commission an Arc de Matuszak and to trade his next hot-commodity coach to Prussia for draft picks), here's tonight's starting pitcher for the Atlanta Braves: Jung Bong. Maybe this is the answer to the age-old riddle of "if Freud used cocaine, then..." later, Miles, who still wishes the Mets had called up Ronald McDonald at the same time that they brought Howard Johnson to the big leagues ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:13:35 -0400 From: "Francis J H Park" Subject: [loud-fans] NS: wedding garb and kids Congratulations Elizabeth! | Now John - play nice. Bro-in-law Jon can't help it if he had to rush to | the wedding straight from his guest appearance on _That '70s Show_. I got married in dress blues - the cut of which has not changed substantially since, oh, the early 80s. The real indignity was getting married on crutches, which made it hard to outrun the enfilade fire of the rice gauntlet. Elizabeth notes: | Having been shacked up for four and a half years, we're already very | familiar with the Overly Personal Baby Questions. (And I'm more than | happy to trade the old "Soooo, when are you guys getting married?" On Elizabeth's note on casual small-talk subjects: Living in the Bible belt where protocol and tact are valued more than the truth, I tend to be a tad blunt in my discourse. This tends to infuriate some of my superior officers, but as I've been wont to quip at work, "fuck 'em." Since Maura just brought out our second (and probably last) kid last week, I've found that my monomaniac fury for work has abated quite a bit, since I have a relatively new life beyond jumping out of planes and shooting stuff. My caveat to kids is that my effective mobility drops to virtually nil aside from required trips. I think it'll be easier when Elizabeth (my first girl) and Alexandra (my second) get a little older. By that time I'll have both of them playing lacrosse, learning the 8 steady hold factors of rifle marksmanship, and listening to Kristin Hersh. Until then, the number of shows I can attend is veerrrrrrrrrry limited. I'd like to go see The Reputation (ex-Sarge) when they come to Chapel Hill ( about 1 1/2 hrs away from where I live) later this month if I can get away long enough to do it. In reality, I doubt it since I normally bottlefeed Alexandra at night. I think the only band I'd make the exception for right now is Tommy Keene. Does that mirror anyone else's experience with infants? Francis J. H. Park http://home.sprintmail.com/~durandal - -- "Ask for my honesty and you'll have my loyalty. Ask for my loyalty and you'll (only) have my honesty." - COL(Ret) John R. Boyd, USAF (1927-1997) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:36:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Suddenly I find myself intrigued by the LPGA (Distinctly OT and NS) On 23 Apr 2002 me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: > http://sports.yahoo.com/pga/gallery/20020421/1019436850lpga_longs_drugs_rcp107.html In other news, Linda Lovelace just died. No relation at all between the two items. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:42:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > > "Why are people protesting about heavy metal when there's that awful > Madonna song about cannibalism out now. You know, the one where she sings > 'I made up my mind, I'm eating my baby / Yeah, I'm gonna eat my baby?'" > - letter to CREEM magazine, 1986 On an only vaguely related topic, I watched VH1's "movie" about the PMRC the other night, mostly because I felt compelled to watch anything in which Frank Zappa is a main character. Unfortunately, the movie wasn't very good, and you'd think they'd find somebody who could do a better Zappa than Griffin Dunne, who's too short, too round-faced, and has too nasal a voice. But it was fun to be reminded of the immortal Mentors... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, who if he ever records anything will include a "backmasked" message saying "wash behind your ears. eat your vegetables." J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Californians invented the concept of the life-style. ::This alone warrants their doom. __Don DeLillo, WHITE NOISE__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:53:57 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] scott rocks allow me to put in a good word for "d-pression" and "nice when i want something." ob layne staley: i did sound for ten bands who are *treally* *trying* to make "it" in the music biz this past weekend. one of the funniest -- and believe me, there was a lot of unintended humor on display --was a band who had a guest vocalist come up to cover alice in chain's "man in a box" as their closer. i'm pretty sure that on page 38 of _how to be a rock star_ it specifies that you should NOT close your set with a song far stronger than any of your own material, nor have it sung by a better and more compelling singer than your own frontman. alice in chains had at least one album's worth of songs i kinda like, although not in the same place, and none on that last record. darn it, i was going to throw something else in here, but now i can't remember what. oh yeah: i saw rush on the, was it power windows tour? i'd wanted to go because a) it was free and b) marillion were opening. except marillion (circa misplaced childhood) cancelled at the last minute. i was more entertained than i expected to be, but it didn't seem very much like a "rock" show -- more a sort of multimedia presentation with incidental music. funnily enough in the shower this morning i was thinking about how much i like some of the tracks on _moving pictures_ ("witch hunt," and the one with the "angular mass of new yorkers") and how silly the b-side of _2112_ is ("twilight zone," "train to bangkok"). ok, actually the a-side is pretty silly too. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:26:57 -0400 (EDT) From: jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic Quoting Miles Goosens : > 'I made up my mind, I'm eating my baby / Yeah, I'm gonna eat my > baby?'" Couple of good misheard song lyrics I've heard lately: "I'm gonna rock'n'roll all night/And part of every day" - Jules Verdone "Living is easy with nice clothes" - Jake Riviera "I got my man scent on you" ("I've Got My Mind Set on You") - Jules again - ------------------------------------------------- BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL WEBMAIL: info.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:52:00 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] Head [was scott rocks] At 11:53 AM 4/23/2002 -0400, dmw wrote: >_2112_ is ("twilight zone," "train to bangkok"). Mention of Bangkok prompts me to ask: is BUFFY's Anthony Stewart Head kin to Murray ("One Night in Bangkok") Head? Surely they're from the same tribe of all-singing, all-dancing Heads. In other three-named Anthony news, I was distressed last week to find out (via the "Today's Birthdays" section of the TENNESSEAN) that I'm still older than Anthony Michael Hall. I thought he would have passed me up by now. In fact, I thought that it had happened by at least 1989. later, Miles "It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage." - - Indiana Jones ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:03:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Head [was scott rocks] On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > Mention of Bangkok prompts me to ask: is BUFFY's Anthony Stewart Head kin > to Murray ("One Night in Bangkok") Head? Surely they're from the same > tribe of all-singing, all-dancing Heads. Probably no relation to Swell Maps' Jowe Head... I've wondered this, too - esp. since both Heads appeared in productions of _Jesus Christ Superstar_. (No, both Heads did not appear in a production of _The Thing with Two Heads_...) So, do you think Joss Whedon, when asked which of the actors who'd auditioned for Giles he wanted, replied with "...? - -j ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:08:27 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic I've had good luck with: Don't Respond, She Can Tell Take Me Down Slit My Wrists (my depressed 80's Cure fan friends really dig this one) Where They Go Back to School but Get Depressed Businessmen are Okay (My friend's four year old son sings this now - and loud) Nice When I Want Something And with the Game Theory Songs: Erica's Word (also available as a Loud Family track, of course) The Real Sheila We Love You Carol and Allison Nothing New Room for One More, Honey Don't Entertain Me Twice 24 Like a Girl Jesus and, of course, "Mammoth Gardens." Ah. Now I want to make a new Loud Family mix. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Keegstra, Russell Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:51 AM To: 'Elizabeth Brion'; loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic Newly-Wed Elizabeth: >"Inverness" seems safe for the pop folk, but I can't quite >decide on an equally accessible song for the rock camp. Well, let me just plug a vote for one of my favorite, accessible rock tunes, "Asleep and Awake on the Man's Freeway". Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:25:44 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic >Unfortunately, the movie wasn't >very good, and you'd think they'd find somebody who could do a better >Zappa than Griffin Dunne, who's too short, too round-faced, and has too >nasal a voice. But it was fun to be reminded of the immortal Mentors... So who'd they get to play El Duce? Linkwise, here's an interesting article especially for you United States Of American fans out there: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/04/23/copyright/index.html and finally, a foolproof way to register for the New York Times: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/04/23/copyright/index.html Noting oddly enough that Layne Staley lived and died over the Kinko's in my neighborhood, Andy USAT's Life section reports on the opening of a new play in Iraq, Zabibah and the King. The drama, based on a romance novel by noted author, and dictator, Saddam Hussein, is "receiving rave reviews from the Iraqi press." [--from www.slate.com] (courtesy Michael Mitton) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:26:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] thought for food So the University's bookstore is getting rid of its CDs - no one bought them there (no selection, crappy price) - and has discounted a bunch of them pretty steeply. So I picked up three titles (Harvey Danger's _King James Version_, Eliza Carthy's _I Forget Its Title, Sorry_, and the second "Sweet Relief" CD featuring songs of Vic Chesnutt); looking at the sales slip, I see that according to the bookstore, CDs are classified as "NON-EDIBLE NOTIONS." (I believe "edible notions" are what welfare "reformers" propose to feed its former recipients...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::pushing the pencil not the envelope:: np: "Life in Fragments" internet radio show (4/5/02 show) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:38:44 -0700 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Re: [loud-fans] thought for food On 4/23/02 11:26 AM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > So the University's bookstore is getting rid of its CDs - no one bought > them there (no selection, crappy price) - and has discounted a bunch of > them pretty steeply. So I picked up three titles (Harvey Danger's _King > James Version_, Eliza Carthy's _I Forget Its Title, Sorry_, and the second > "Sweet Relief" CD featuring songs of Vic Chesnutt) Is is ANGELS AND CIGARETTES? 'Cause I checked that one out of the library, and was blown away by "Whispers of Summer" but can't remember anything from the rest. The second SWEET RELIEF CD has some nice moments, too, including a Madonna and Joe Henry (he's her brother-in-law) duet. last played: Neil Finn, 7 WORLDS COLLIDE. Fabulous. last seen: JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK on DVD. What a load of nonsense. Michael - -- "Am I repeating myself to tell ya that dreaming is what's left of psychedelia?" The New Pornographers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:41:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > >Unfortunately, the movie wasn't > >very good, and you'd think they'd find somebody who could do a better > >Zappa than Griffin Dunne, who's too short, too round-faced, and has too > >nasal a voice. But it was fun to be reminded of the immortal Mentors... > > So who'd they get to play El Duce? No one...the band appeared solely in the form of posters, blown-up album covers, and lyrics quoted (sweatily, disturbedly; or in near-hysterics) by various characters. However, Dee Snider of Twisted Sister played himself - hysterically. John Denver, Frank Zappa - both dead: coincidence? (cue spooky cello line...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:44:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] rush On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Not to brag or anything, but I saw Geddy, Alex & Neil > for the SIGNALS tour. That's right... Old school > (well, middle school at least). To continue my boast, > guess who opened for Rush... That's right, Golden > Earring. Thank you very much. I saw them on the SIGNALS tour (Rory Gallagher), the pre-GRACE tour at Radio City Music Hall (Marillion opened, but I missed them - thanks Metroliner!), and POWER WINDOWS (Blue Oyster Cult!). They put on a great show each time. I had a ticket for the GUP tour, but I had play rehearsal & missed them! That's right - I'm a theater geek/prog geek! J. Mallon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:40:20 -0700 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Head [was scott rocks] On 4/23/02, Miles Goosens wrote: >Mention of Bangkok prompts me to ask: is BUFFY's Anthony Stewart >Head kin to Murray ("One Night in Bangkok") Head? Surely they're >from the same tribe of all-singing, all-dancing Heads. Anthony Stewart is Murray's younger brother. He's also the father of the unfortunately-named Daisy May Head. (Not that there's a double entendre there; it's just an unfortunate name.) The Head patriarch is named Seafield Head. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:49:05 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic Miles Goosens wrote: > Miles, > who is rather fond of the first two > Alice in Chains albums, thank you very much I like them, too. And while I don't consider myself a huge AIC fan, I do have all their albums and the Mad Season album (as most Lanegan fans do). I'm quite partial to Unplugged, myself. It's nice to hear some of the best songs stripped down to their essences and hear how fine they really are out from under the heavy production (not that I have anything against their harder rocking counterparts). Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:50:48 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Head [was scott rocks] >Anthony Stewart is Murray's younger brother. He's also the father of >the unfortunately-named Daisy May Head. (Not that there's a double >entendre there; it's just an unfortunate name.) The Head patriarch is >named Seafield Head. Anybody heard his album MUSIC FOR ELEVATORS yet? Now if only I could have seen him as Frank-N-Furter, Andy April 23, 2002 | SOLDIERS GROVE, Wis. (AP) -- Although Shaelyn Benson and David Daniels didn't spend much money on their prom outfits, they still attracted plenty of attention. The Wisconsin high school students crafted their Renaissance-style formals out of duct tape and say they only spent about $20 each. The outfits were a hit at the North Crawford High School prom and at a pre-prom dinner Saturday. "Everyone wanted pictures," Benson said. "I think I was the most photographed person there." The couple hopes to win a Stuck at the Prom contest sponsored by Duck Brand Duct Tape. First prize includes a $2,500 scholarship for each winner, and another $2,500. Benson said she created her dress over an old red prom dress that she cut apart and used as backing so her outfit would have some flexibility and movement. For detail, she cut out designs on the bodice in maroon colored duct tape. She also sewed in a zipper so she could easily get in and out of the dress. For her flowers, she carried a long-stemmed rose, also made out of duct tape. Daniels wore black with maroon trim. "We spent about 20 hours on my costume," he said, admitting that his mother did much of the work. [--from http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2002/04/23/duct_tape/index.html ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:42:38 -0500 From: Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com Subject: [loud-fans] Westerberg? Hi all, Did anyone go out and get the new Paul Westerberg today? I was under the impression that the initial copies also had the Grandpaboy CD enclosed, but all of the ones I've seen had no mention of that, so I was afraid to plunk down my good folding money.... So, does it come with it??? Wes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:47:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Westerberg? I bought it. There was no mention of an extra disc on the package, but it's in there. Now I have Mono and Mono/Stereo! Good thing I like the sound of it. - --- Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com wrote: > Hi all, > Did anyone go out and get the new Paul Westerberg today? I was under the > impression that the initial copies also had the Grandpaboy CD enclosed, but > all of the ones I've seen had no mention of that, so I was afraid to plunk > down my good folding money.... > So, does it come with it??? > Wes Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:17:33 -0500 From: "Kunkel, Mark" Subject: [loud-fans] NS: Grandpaboy? In case you missed it, Paul Westerberg is interviewed in today's San Fransisco Examiner: http://www.examiner.com/ex_files/default.jsp?story=X0423WESTERw _____________________________________________________ Mark D. Kunkel Legislative Attorney Legislative Reference Bureau (608) 266-0131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:24:40 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] NS: Grandpaboy? heh - "As a Replacement, Westerberg and his compadres laid waste to many an aorta throughout the '80s, sometimes via their scintillating performances of poignant songs like "I Will Dare" and "Unsatisfied," sometimes via their inability to perform them with any competence whatsoever." - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kunkel, Mark" To: ; "'Coryell, Lori'" ; "'Coryell, Mark (work)'" ; "Kreye, Joseph" Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: [loud-fans] NS: Grandpaboy? > In case you missed it, Paul Westerberg is interviewed in today's San > Fransisco Examiner: > > http://www.examiner.com/ex_files/default.jsp?story=X0423WESTERw > > _____________________________________________________ > Mark D. Kunkel > Legislative Attorney > Legislative Reference Bureau > (608) 266-0131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:27:49 -0500 From: "Kunkel, Mark" Subject: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again I seem to ask this question every 6 months or so, and this time (since I'm moving soon), I won't misplace your recommendations. Anyway, do you have any suggestions on CD storage units? I have over 1000 now (CDs, not storage units), and am moving to a smaller apartment in a while. The bookshelves that I'm using aren't gonna cut it anymore. Help! Thanks, _____________________________________________________ Mark D. Kunkel Legislative Attorney Legislative Reference Bureau (608) 266-0131 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:36:10 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again The key to successful bulk CD storage is separating the discs and the cases. The discs can simply be spindled on a long dowel rod, and the cases can be melted down and poured into oil drums. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:50:20 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again At 04:27 PM 4/23/2002 -0500, Kunkel, Mark wrote: >I seem to ask this question every 6 months or so, and this time (since I'm >moving soon), I won't misplace your recommendations. Anyway, do you have >any suggestions on CD storage units? I have over 1000 now (CDs, not storage >units), and am moving to a smaller apartment in a while. The bookshelves >that I'm using aren't gonna cut it anymore. Help! Most people will mention Can-Am at www.can-am.ca, and then I'll chime in and mention that their stuff is lovely and all, but I can't see dropping $289 plus shipping for storage for 500 CDs when you can get a 500-CD unfinished pine wall unit from Maverick Designs at www.bostonwood.com for $73. Buy two of those, stack two of the 220s ($29 apiece) on top and have room for 1440 CDs in four feet of wall space for $204 plus UPS shipping. That's storage for all your CDs plus overflow in one spot for less than the cost of one Can-Am unit. Spend an afternoon and paint 'em or stain 'em if you don't like the look of unfinished wood, but I've never bothered. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:55:56 -0700 From: "me" Subject: Re: (no longer on-topic) Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, somethingon-topic From: "Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey" > However, Dee Snider of Twisted Sister played himself - hysterically. k, then - anyone else seen Strangeland? the first time i watched it i was not particularly thrilled. the second time, however, i absolutely loved it. (of course, my faves are Tank Girl and Nightbreed, so....) - -- "Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object." - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Stewart Mason wrote: > I can't see dropping $289 plus shipping for storage for 500 CDs when you > can get a 500-CD unfinished pine wall unit from Maverick Designs at > www.bostonwood.com for $73. Yeah. I keep all my discs in their stuff, and it's both cheap and effective. I guess it depends what type of small apartment Mark is moving to -- I'd rather have a tall thin shelf using up wall space that a cabinet wouldn't reach, with as small a footprint as possible, but I guess the Can-Am units appeal to people who have other objects to put on top. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:16:20 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again At 05:50 PM 4/23/2002 -0400, Stewart Mason wrote: >At 04:27 PM 4/23/2002 -0500, Kunkel, Mark wrote: >>I seem to ask this question every 6 months or so, and this time (since I'm >>moving soon), I won't misplace your recommendations. Anyway, do you have >>any suggestions on CD storage units? I have over 1000 now (CDs, not storage >>units), and am moving to a smaller apartment in a while. The bookshelves >>that I'm using aren't gonna cut it anymore. Help! > >Most people will mention Can-Am at www.can-am.ca, and then I'll chime in >and mention that their stuff is lovely and all, but I can't see dropping >$289 plus shipping for storage for 500 CDs when you can get a 500-CD >unfinished pine wall unit from Maverick Designs at www.bostonwood.com for >$73. Buy two of those, stack two of the 220s ($29 apiece) on top and have >room for 1440 CDs in four feet of wall space for $204 plus UPS shipping. >That's storage for all your CDs plus overflow in one spot for less than the >cost of one Can-Am unit. Spend an afternoon and paint 'em or stain 'em if >you don't like the look of unfinished wood, but I've never bothered. It all depends on your preferences and the way your living quarters are set up. I think a major factor in the 1995 theft of half of my collection was that the discs were on open shelves in my living room, and potentially viewable from the outside. Sure, having the discs on the open shelves was aesthetically pleasing to me, and the discs were readily accessible, but they were also visible to the guy casing the joint and readily accessible to be stuffed en masse into my own pillowcases and thrown into the thief's car trunk. Therefore a major factor in my future storage decisions has been to get the discs out of sight and into something that locks. Can-Am shelves accomplish both these ends, plus they're modular (I love having two three-drawer units stacked, with a sliding-doors unit for vinyl on top) and the red ones look great in my office. The shelves are built to last, the company ships them in some of the most thorough and protective packaging you'll ever see, and they come in all sorts of colors. Again, it all depends on your situation, but Can-Am was the right choice for me and Melissa, and we're very satisfied customers. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:28:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: [loud-fans] Wilco on ATC All Things Considered is devoting nearly a quarter of an hour of today's show to Wilco & Uncle Tupelo. It's near the end of the show, which means it'll be airing around 4:30 PM here in the Bay Area. If you miss it, the audio will be available after 9 PM ET at http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?PrgDate=04/23/2002&PrgID=2 - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:04:50 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] NS: Grandpaboy? "Kunkel, Mark" wrote: > In case you missed it, Paul Westerberg is interviewed in today's San > Francisco Examiner: > http://www.examiner.com/ex_files/default.jsp?story=X0423WESTERw Far be it from me to find factual errors in an Examiner article, but.. > And those fans have certainly grown in number since the days > when they roamed the Unites (sic!) States in a beat-up van. > Back then, although the Replacements could fill up San Francisco > clubs like the I Beam or Slim's, playing a nice theater like the > Fillmore was well out of reach. The first time I saw the Replacements, in the summer of 1987 on the PLEASED TO MEET ME tour, they played the Fillmore. They would've had trouble filling up Slim's in the mid-80s, because it hadn't opened yet! > Thus, when they appeared on "Saturday Night Live," they switched > instruments with one another. I've got the Replacements SNL appearance on tape, and there isn't any any instrument switching at all. Paul played guitar, Tommy played bass, Chris played drums, and Bob didn't play much of anything.. > In addition, Westerberg has reputedly been trying to get a > Replacements reunion tour going -- characteristically, to be > held at all the venues that Buddy Holly didn't get to after his > plane crash in 1957. 1957?? Oh wait, this article is by Gina Arnold.. Never mind! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:33:28 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic > Which ones do you use? "Inverness," "Give In World" and "CryptoSicko" are my regulars both because of their accessibility and because they're my favorites. When doing my Best of 2000 mix, I flipped back and forth between "No One's Watching My Limo Ride" and "Motion of Ariel," also good, I think, if you want to introduce Scott to people without frightening them. "Nothing New" and "24" (on my recent 24th birthday themed mix) have also found their way onto mixes lately. Jer http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:00:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, glenn mcdonald wrote: > The key to successful bulk CD storage is separating the discs and the cases. > The discs can simply be spindled on a long dowel rod, and the cases can be > melted down and poured into oil drums. This works best if you use a laser to slice each CD in half first, since otherwise, it's rather difficult to extract the 500th disc of a 1000-disc collection. Error correction is a must - either on your CD player or by listening to your CDs only after adequate intake of Jack Daniel. I'm in the pro- jewel box camp - although it must be said that whoever was arguing for Natalie Merchant here earlier has a point. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::beliefs are ideas going bald:: __Francis Picabia__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:07:09 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Just for kicks, something on-topic At Tuesday 4/23/2002 08:08 AM -1000, R. Kevin Doyle wrote: >I've had good luck with: > >Don't Respond, She Can Tell I don't understand why everyone thinks Don't Respond is so accessible and is such a good mix tape song. I've found it to be the least accessible of the Loud Family "singles", and I've never had any luck getting non-LoudFan people interested in it, even if they've previously expressed a liking for other Scott songs. I think it's the odd timing in the chorus that gets them (and me). That and the ball-bearings. I don't think the melody is particularly hooky either. Asleep and Awake, Dripping With Looks: Rawk songs?!? None of the people I know who are into "rock" would consider them such. Maybe if they had more drums and were played twice as fast... You people be trippin'. Sorry for being on-topic... I'm not used to it. I *am* used to be contrary tho. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:11:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] CD storage, once again On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Stewart Mason wrote: > Most people will mention Can-Am at www.can-am.ca, and then I'll chime in > and mention that their stuff is lovely and all, but I can't see dropping > $289 plus shipping for storage for 500 CDs when you can get a 500-CD > unfinished pine wall unit from Maverick Designs at www.bostonwood.com for > $73. Buy two of those, stack two of the 220s ($29 apiece) on top and have > room for 1440 CDs in four feet of wall space for $204 plus UPS shipping. This works if you have reasonably tall ceilings and lots of wall space...but I store my CDs in the basement, whose ceiling is not very tall, there's not much wall space, plus the floor's kind of uneven, so I don't trust tall units (I've got one which I've secured with wire and some eyehooks, but that was sort of an annoying process). Admittedly, you can't beat the prices here - although I do wish the displays were a little more legible and specific. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #148 *******************************