From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #118 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, March 28 2002 Volume 02 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while ["Larry Tucker" ] Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? ["Roger Winston" ] Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? ["John Swartzentruber" ] Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while ["me" ] Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while |-----Original Message----- |From: jenny grover [mailto:sleeveless@citynet.net] |Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:33 AM |Cc: loud-fans@smoe.org |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us |email i've gotten in a while | | |me wrote: |> |> and you should go hear him play if you haven't - but then again, who |> hasn't? | |I haven't. And I haven't, but then again has he ever played the right coast? - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:53:40 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] George Harrison tribute/benefit this Sat - reminder On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, John Sharples wrote: > to get a good seat.) There is no cover charge, but we will pass the bucket I thought we outlawed Monty Python references on this list. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing.... ::As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world. __Neal Stephenson, SNOW CRASH__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:33:58 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? Now here's a call you don't want to make! - -Larry |THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. |DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 | |This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty |scary, especially given the way they try to get you to call. |Be sure you read this and pass it on to all your friends and |family so they don't get scammed! | |MAJOR SCAM: |Don't respond to Emails, phone calls, or web pages which tell |you to call an "809" Phone Number. This is a very important |issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is |spreading *extremely* quickly can easily cost you $2400 or |more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it. |We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our |attention. This scam has also been identified by the National |Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lots of money. | |There are lots of different permutations of this scam. | |HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: |You will receive a message on your answering machine or your |pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area |code 809. The reason you're asked to call varies. It can be |to receive information about a family member who has been ill, |to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know |you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case, you are |told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so |many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls. | |If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 |per-minute. Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point |is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible |to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your |phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24100.00. | |WHY IT WORKS: |The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands |(The Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a |"pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. |Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. |regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified |and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a |pay-per-call" number. | |There is also no requirement that the company provide a time |period during which you may terminate the call without being |charged. Further, whereas many U.S.homes that have 900 number |blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, do not work in |preventing calls to the 809 area code. | |We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you |are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you |don't recognize just disregard the message. Be wary of email |or calls asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's |important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since |trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real |nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If |you complain, both your local phone company and your long |distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most |likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for |the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign |company that argues they have done nothing wrong. | |Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and |colleagues to help them become aware of this scam. | |Sandi Van Handel |AT&T Field Service Manager |Additional information can be obtained from the following AT&T |Web Site http://www.att.com/fraud/home.html#thre/s/ ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 2002 10:41:43 -0500 From: Dan Schmidt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? "Larry Tucker" writes: | Now here's a call you don't want to make! | -Larry | | |THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. | |DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 This sounded a little weird, so I did a web search, and it's partly true and partly made up. corrects some of the information in the original message. - -- http://www.dfan.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:47:03 -0700 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? As usual, this "Foward me everywhere!" e-mail makes things seem worse than they are. At least it actually has a basis in fact, though it overstates things. See: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/809.htm Latre. --Rog - ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tucker Sent: 3/27/2002 8:33:58 AM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? > Now here's a call you don't want to make! > -Larry > > |THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. > |DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 > | > |This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty > |scary, especially given the way they try to get you to call. > |Be sure you read this and pass it on to all your friends and > |family so they don't get scammed! > | > |MAJOR SCAM: > |Don't respond to Emails, phone calls, or web pages which tell > |you to call an "809" Phone Number. This is a very important > |issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is > |spreading *extremely* quickly can easily cost you $2400 or > |more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it. > |We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our > |attention. This scam has also been identified by the National > |Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lots of money. > | > |There are lots of different permutations of this scam. > | > |HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: > |You will receive a message on your answering machine or your > |pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area > |code 809. The reason you're asked to call varies. It can be > |to receive information about a family member who has been ill, > |to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know > |you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case, you are > |told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so > |many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls. > | > |If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 > |per-minute. Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point > |is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible > |to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your > |phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24100.00. > | > |WHY IT WORKS: > |The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands > |(The Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a > |"pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. > |Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. > |regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified > |and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a > |pay-per-call" number. > | > |There is also no requirement that the company provide a time > |period during which you may terminate the call without being > |charged. Further, whereas many U.S.homes that have 900 number > |blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, do not work in > |preventing calls to the 809 area code. > | > |We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you > |are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you > |don't recognize just disregard the message. Be wary of email > |or calls asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's > |important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since > |trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real > |nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If > |you complain, both your local phone company and your long > |distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most > |likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for > |the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign > |company that argues they have done nothing wrong. > | > |Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and > |colleagues to help them become aware of this scam. > | > |Sandi Van Handel > |AT&T Field Service Manager > |Additional information can be obtained from the following AT&T > |Web Site http://www.att.com/fraud/home.html#thre/s/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:50:08 -0500 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? > Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and > colleagues to help them become aware of this scam. If I may repeat the obvious: When you see words like those quoted above, _DON'T_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:52:57 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? |-----Original Message----- |From: Dan Schmidt [mailto:dfan@harmonixmusic.com] |Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:42 AM |To: loud-fans@smoe.org |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? | | |"Larry Tucker" writes: | || Now here's a call you don't want to make! || -Larry || || |THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. || |DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 | |This sounded a little weird, so I did a web search, and it's |partly true and partly made up. | | corrects some of the |information in the original message. Thanks for the research and corrections Dan. I thought that $2400/min sounded unbelievable. Still a pretty wicked scam though. LT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:58:38 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? |-----Original Message----- |From: John Swartzentruber [mailto:johnslists@mcswartz.org] |Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:50 AM |To: the sound of the collective grumbling |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? | | |> Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and |> colleagues to help them become aware of this scam. | |If I may repeat the obvious: When you see words like those |quoted above, _DON'T_ | I'm usually not so gullible on these things either John, but we got this originally from our office's long distance provider so I thought I'd just pass it along. - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:36:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Phone scams anyone? - --- Larry Tucker wrote: > |THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. > |DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 > |WHY IT WORKS: > |The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands > |(The Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a Geography was never my favorite subject either. Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:36:39 -0800 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while > |I haven't. > > And I haven't, but then again has he ever played the right coast? > > -Larry > not that i know of, but he's on 125. http://125records.com/anton.html - -- "The sigil of Baphomet is not a legal trademark or corporate logo as others would have you believe! Why? Because it was not created in this century! Anyone can use this symbol - it is in the public domain, just like the christian crucifix or jewish star of david. If any person or organization threatens to sue you for using, advertising, posting or merchandising items displaying this symbol, please report it to us immediately! They are perpetrating fraud and will be dealt with swiftly and severely." - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:39:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, me wrote: > > |I haven't. > > > > And I haven't, but then again has he ever played the right coast? > > not that i know of, but he's on 125. > http://125records.com/anton.html And on Frigidisk, and on idiot, and on Lost Arts... By the way, Anton HAS played the East Coast -- he did a gig in NYC last year. - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:47:13 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while Sue Trowbridge wrote: > By the way, Anton HAS played the East Coast -- he did a gig in NYC last > year. That hardly counts. One place that's still long distance for most Easterners. Not to pick on Anton, since I don't know him, but I get really tired of West Coast bands "touring" the East Coast by playing NYC and maybe Chicago or Detroit. It's like they have this geographically skewed image that anything beyond, say, Nevada, is this little dinky area and if you play one town, then everyone should be able to go. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:54:35 -0800 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while At 2:47 PM -0500 3/27/02, jenny grover wrote: > >That hardly counts. One place that's still long distance for most >Easterners. Not to pick on Anton, since I don't know him, but I get >really tired of West Coast bands "touring" the East Coast by playing NYC >and maybe Chicago or Detroit. It's like they have this geographically >skewed image that anything beyond, say, Nevada, is this little dinky >area and if you play one town, then everyone should be able to go. > I think in Anton's case, it was more like he was going to be in NYC so he booked a show than that he thought he was on tour. If it makes you feel any better, I often have the same experience with East Coast bands that I like (and Canadian, and Midwestern... ). It's frustrating, but I don't really mind that much - touring is expensive, and it's a real gamble to expend a lot of effort in an area where you're not likely to have much of a fan base. If someone I *really* like is playing anywhere remotely within driving distance, I'll usually make the effort to meet them halfway. - -- Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:30:55 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while At 02:47 PM 3/27/02 -0500, jenny grover wrote: >That hardly counts. One place that's still long distance for most >Easterners. Not to pick on Anton, since I don't know him, but I get >really tired of West Coast bands "touring" the East Coast by playing NYC >and maybe Chicago or Detroit. It's like they have this geographically >skewed image that anything beyond, say, Nevada, is this little dinky >area and if you play one town, then everyone should be able to go. No different than bands who think playing Seattle, Portland, SF and LA counts as a "western states tour," something that always bugged the shit out of me about Albuquerque. We could have walked three blocks down the street to see the Eels on Sunday night, but the Oscars seemed like the better entertainment choice. Too bad it turned out to be the most boring Oscars in ages. Stewart NP: MONA (THE CARNIVOROUS CIRCUS) -- Mick Farren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:43:47 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while At 03:30 PM 3/27/2002 -0500, Stewart Mason wrote: >At 02:47 PM 3/27/02 -0500, jenny grover wrote: >>That hardly counts. One place that's still long distance for most >>Easterners. Not to pick on Anton, since I don't know him, but I get >>really tired of West Coast bands "touring" the East Coast by playing NYC >>and maybe Chicago or Detroit. It's like they have this geographically >>skewed image that anything beyond, say, Nevada, is this little dinky >>area and if you play one town, then everyone should be able to go. > >No different than bands who think playing Seattle, Portland, SF and LA >counts as a "western states tour," something that always bugged the shit >out of me about Albuquerque. Basically, if you don't live within 200 miles of (1) the west coast, (2) Chicago, or (3) the east coast from Boston south to DC, you're in the "little dinky area," at least in the eyes of lots of artists, promoters, and label people. You could almost add Atlanta to the geographically blessed, as far as rock tours go, but many tours bypass the southeast entirely. I will go to Atlanta for something I absolutely have to see (Roxy Music last year is a good example), but even then, if a show's on a weeknight, I have to burn at least one vacation day and leave work early on the day of the show (losing an hour on the drive down means that if I leave Nashville at 5 PM central, I can't get there sooner than 10 PM eastern). And I can't always afford to give up those days. I have to laugh when people on the Richard Thompson or Fegmaniax lists bitch if one *segment* of their heroes' tours doesn't include a stop in the northeast. Richard hasn't played Nashville since 1999, and the two shows that year were the first since 1994, which was the first since 1989; Robyn has played Nashville exactly three times ever (1990, 1992, 1997). All the aforementioned shows were full houses, so since it ain't like they played for 15 drunken hillbillies and made $2.50 after the bar didn't pick up the artist's tab, they darn well ought to play here more. So I shed no tears at the prospect that Richard Thompson might venture to New England only -- gasp! -- *once* in 2002! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:21:42 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] Love it! He's outta prison and rockin' and touring. Anyone heard if there's a new album in the pipeline? http://lovewitharthurlee.com/ - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:22:59 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, me wrote: > and you should go hear him play if you haven't - but then again, who hasn't? Oh, Anton's e-mails are always bizarrely amusing like this. I've known one or two people who think he's always trying too hard...but I'd disagree. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:31:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, jenny grover wrote: > > By the way, Anton HAS played the East Coast -- he did a gig in NYC last > > year. > > That hardly counts. One place that's still long distance for most > Easterners. Not to pick on Anton, since I don't know him, but I get > really tired of West Coast bands "touring" the East Coast by playing NYC > and maybe Chicago or Detroit. It's like they have this geographically > skewed image that anything beyond, say, Nevada, is this little dinky > area and if you play one town, then everyone should be able to go. I think it's less a matter of Anton or anyone else wanting to scorn those so unfortunate as not to live in major metro areas, and more a question of whether or not there's a fanbase...which translates often to: whether or not anyone will book a show. I'm sure if God appeared unto Anton from amidst a baked alaska and said: "Anton! Go thou and playest every burg and village, yea verily from here unto wildest West Virginia. And I Myself shall guarantee a full house in each town, city, and village; and many drinks shall be consumed; and club owners shall be happy and pleased; and thou shalt actually be paid and make money; and thou shalt be exempt from having to drive in traffic jams, rainstorms, duststorms, windstorms, snowstorms, and in the state of Indiana," there'd be no question he'd play in your town, too. Those of us who, for instance, saw tentative Loud Family gigs disappear on their final tour know all too well how true this is. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:50:26 -0800 From: "me" Subject: [loud-fans] Milton Berle, comedian who was 'Mr. Television' at dawn of TV age, dead at 93 http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/03/27/obituary1907 EST0810.DTL - -- "The sigil of Baphomet is not a legal trademark or corporate logo as others would have you believe! Why? Because it was not created in this century! Anyone can use this symbol - it is in the public domain, just like the christian crucifix or jewish star of david. If any person or organization threatens to sue you for using, advertising, posting or merchandising items displaying this symbol, please report it to us immediately! They are perpetrating fraud and will be dealt with swiftly and severely." - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:02:40 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while > By the way, Anton HAS played the East Coast -- he did a gig in NYC > last year. But I think the only shows he's ever played outside the state of California were last year in New York in London, when Anton wasn't "on tour" so much as visiting a place where he decided to play. Besides a handful of shows in L.A., Anton hasn't played much outside of Northern California. And except for the odd one-nighter in San Francisco or Berkeley, he doesn't play much outside of Sacramento. There isn't any tour support from Frigidisk or 125 or any of the other labels, so he's mostly remained a local fixture. That said, everybody within the sound of my voice should make every effort to make it to see Anton Barbeau and band the Delta of Venus in Davis on Friday! It's one of the coolest places in the world, with great food and comfy couches and an out-of-tune piano, plus it's less than an hour's drive from the Bay Area (provided you treat the I-80 freeway signs like speed limit signs).. I always try to plan my parental visits around Anton shows, especially when he plays the Delta, so I'll definitely be there! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:29:24 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while Elizabeth Brion wrote: > > I think in Anton's case, it was more like he was going to be in NYC > so he booked a show than that he thought he was on tour. That's cool, then. > If it makes you feel any better, I often have the same experience > with East Coast bands that I like (and Canadian, and Midwestern... ). Well, no, it doesn't make me feel better, it just makes me feel bad for you too. I think what upsets me more than a band just admitting they can't afford a full-scale tour, or just saying that they don't really want to tour the whole country, is a band that year after year says, "Yes, we are going to play a real US tour, and do the East Coast and South and Midwest," and then they go tour all over Europe, come home and do a bunch more West Coast shows, and then never do any more. Then we get it again, "We'll be coming out East to play, for real, soon," and then we wait, and wait.... If they can afford multiple tours of Europe and Australia, they can afford to tour East. I don't know how many bands popular on this list fall into said category, but several bands I have liked and followed for years do, and I get tired (as does my wallet!) of flying cross country if I want to see them live. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:55:42 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: [loud-fans] another swap review First, my thanks to Stewart for an interesting mix tape (no, I don't hate it and am just reluctant to say so!) and a yummy looking recipe for Texas Pecan Pie! Wasn't expecting that! He titled this mix "Wider than a Mile," and that could be said of the styles of its contents. And, Stewart- turn those levels down! I ended up with some rather nasty overdrive distortion. side one 1- Fleas Don't Fly- Arnold Soft, dreamy pop with some Pink Floyd-esque repeating undiminished vocal echoes in the first verse. Pleasant. Is Arnold a band or one person doing it all? 2- For the Other People Around Us- Kirk Laktas Sonorous ambient violins. 3- Confusion is Nothing New- Beechwood Sparks Psychedelic pop with tempo shifts and jangling guitars. There's a sense of distance or removal in the production style. 4- Looks Like Rain- The Bevis Frond Jangle pop of a more intimate nature. I like the vocals. He has a nice quality to his voice. Something about the song structure and vocal metering reminds me of Mike Johnson. Aaron M. is after me to check out more of this guy's stuff, and I think I shall. 5- Dusseldorf- Bob Hund Galloping rhythm, 80's style keys. Goes on longer than it should and is pretty insubstantial. 6- We Suspect He Was Trying To Spell Monkey- Bunnygrunt Girly punk-pop. Cute, in that enthusiastic, barely competent way. 7- The Boys Are Back In Town- The Cardigans Ack! A band I particularly dislike gives a wimpy 70's, almost disco, pop treatment to the rousing classic, effectively emasculating it. They should be arrested. 8- It's Cold Outside- The Choir One of those classics I've heard so much and never remember who it's by. Del Shannon? Anyway, very nice cover. 9- Five Ten Fiftyfold- The Cocteau Twins I always envied Elizabeth Fraser her voice. Typical CT haunting, dreamlike art-goth. I felt a strange nostalgia listening to this, even though I'm not familiar with this particular song. Mesmerizing. Creates it's own world. 10- Clubland- Elvis Costello and the Attractions I haven't heard this in a long time. Whatever possessed me to sell this album? I should re-buy it. 11- To the Aisle- The Five Satins A radio announcer for WIBG and a station jingle lead into this charming, pretty pop song in the same style as the Platters. Followed by a funny ad for aforesaid station, offering money for news stories. 12- Sign Up Maybe For Being- Richard Davies California 60's flavored pop with vocal harmonies, tamborine, strummed guitar. Pleasant with some nice hooks. A little tonally monotonous in the first 2/3, but things pick up nicely toward the end. 13- Laughing Into A Teapot- Todd Dillingham Hooky garage pop with cheesy organ. Right up my alley. Tell me more! 14- Moon River- Dump Nice cover. Melodic guitars with decidedly modern indie-pop vocals. side two 1- Elizabeth Montgomery's Face- The Embarrassment I seem to remember hearing this on college radio. A fun bass and surf guitar romp with that Western feel and punctuated vocals. I like everything I've heard by this band. I should buy something. 2- Savoir Faire- Family Fodder Girl vocal synth pop with tons of kick drum and shifty, perky rhythms. Where are they from? 3- The Great Valediction- Flop Inhabits my collection. Galloping rhythm section and vocals reminiscent of a lively Liz Phair. Nice hook going in the chorus. 4- Bebe Requin- France Gall French female vocals, 20's music hall overtones, and an enthusiastic trumpet. 5- You Don't Own Me- Lesley Gore A classic. Girl stands up for her rights without flinching. 6- Watusi Rodeo- Guadalcanal Diary Inhabits my collection, as well. This was never my favorite Guadalcanal song, but it's lively and the guitars sound great. I remember hearing it on the radio a lot, but I usually skip this one when I play the album. 7- Moonlight Feels Right- Starbuck Alright, this is the most jarring segue on the tape! I kinda liked this when it came out, probably due to over-immersion and boredom, barely enough to buy the 45. After a while I decided it was a cheesy piece of crap and sold it. You know what? I'm holding with my latter opinion. 8- Nomads- The High Llamas A plucky rhythm banjo, string section, some horns, and a song that sounds like a TV sitcom theme song. Is this typical of this band? If so, it's a pretty strange path for a band to take. 9- All You Need Is A Fertile Mind- Gene Marshall A strange, old-style pop song praising sexual fantasy as a means of improving on the partner you have. When did this come out (the song, I mean, not the idea)? 10- That's Entertainment- The Jam Ah- The Jam, recent chat topic (punk or not?) Doesn't matter to me. I always liked them and still do. I like Paul Weller's voice, and this song was always a favorite. Another resident of my own collection. 11- China- Red Rockers Generic 2nd rate 80's pop/rock. I have some vague memories of this song. 12-If I Were A Rich Man- The Magnetic Fields Lazy, minimal version of this song. Quite boring, actually. 13- Playing With Dinosaur- Lemonator Very lively pop. A good wake-up after that last track, but only a fair to middlin' song. 14- 100,000 Fireflies- The Magnetic Fields Tinkly toy piano-sounding keyboards (are these real toy pianos?), pleasant female vocals, and some nice hooks. This is the most appealing song I've heard yet by this band. The first Mag Fields song I've heard that I can actually say I like. So, there ya have it. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:23:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, jenny grover wrote: > you too. I think what upsets me more than a band just admitting they > then we wait, and wait.... If they can afford multiple tours of Europe > and Australia, they can afford to tour East. But what a band can "afford" is dependent upon where their audience is. If they're "big in Japan" or in Europe, they can afford to tour there - whereas if no one's heard of them on the east coast, they can't. You go where your fans are. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Solipsism is its own reward:: __Crow T. Robot__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:46:05 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] the best we're-playing-come-see-us email i've gotten in a while Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > But what a band can "afford" is dependent upon where their audience is. If > they're "big in Japan" or in Europe, they can afford to tour there - > whereas if no one's heard of them on the east coast, they can't. You go > where your fans are. That is not the case with the bands I'm thinking of. They have nationwide followings, and they know it. On the odd chance they do play a date somewhere other than usual, it sells out. Some of us have decided it's that they just think the East Coast isn't exotic enough, whereas it's fun to run around Spain for a couple of weeks and come back with glowing reports about how "the women there have nice asses." Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #118 *******************************