From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #107 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, March 18 2002 Volume 02 : Number 107 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] While we're on the subject of usage... [] [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas [jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu] Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation [Dana L Paoli <] Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas ["Roger Winston" ] Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas ["The Imperial Butt Wiz] [loud-fans] swap review: MILES TO GO (pt. 2) [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:49:52 -0500 (EST) From: Subject: RE: [loud-fans] While we're on the subject of usage... On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Uh...any Buddhists on the list? Got a couple of questions: I have a vague > memory of a Buddhist proverb along the lines of "If you meet the Buddha on > the road, kill him" - and I've always connected the lines in that > Shriekback song ("we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha") > with that proverb. Am I remembering the Buddhist thing correctly? And if > so, what does it mean? We're all Buddhas, yet many of us carry around a fantasy image of the ultimate leader or teacher who will bring us awareness. But that's crap because it's your practice of Buddhism that brings awareness. So the idea here is that if you meet the Buddha on the road you could get led astray, chasing down some fantasy figure and diverting your attention from the real practice. Something like that. JS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] commute, commute whereever you are ok, one interesting thing that has emerged from the discussion (and basically the reason i'm chipping in) is that everybody seems to have a *set* commute. mine is sometimes about 20 ish feet to one or another of the 'puters, but sometimes bus/train/carpool combos of 1hr or so, or more, or sometimes, not quite theoretically, to some band's rehearsal space, which could be anywhere. north carolina even, although that's pretty hypothetical. the last time i drove an automobile more than moving my room-mate's car from one side of the street to the other when he's out of town was renting a car in june of maybe, uh, 1999? to drive to raleigh, coincidentally, to do aids ride, after i had missed my train. at that point, i think i hadn't driven a car for a couple years before that. wuz extremely nervous. in theory, though, by about 4pm this friday i will be a licensed driver again, so my not-driving-much record could get all blown to heck and back. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:21:31 -0500 (EST) From: jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu Subject: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/inspirational_sport_statues.html - ------------------------------------------------- BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL WEBMAIL: info.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:02:45 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation [Tomorrow] >I just picked up this album on Saturday (I hadn't read >Aaron's note yet...it's just another of those small >coincidences that make life enjoyable), and I haven't >stopped playing it yet. Aaron's right. It is a great >album (except for the unnecessary cover of Strawberry >Fields). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although I always have to dive for the stop button right before "Good Wizzard Meets Naughty Wizzard." But that's a bonus track by The Aquarian Age, so I guess it doesn't really matter. Ween wish they could come up with something so awful/funny. Anyone else like Pussy? Speaking of '60s British psych, which I assume they were, though my CD doesn't have liner notes. - --dana np: Comet Gain/Tigertown Pictures, in anticipation of the new one. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:49:57 -0700 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu on 3/18/2002 5:21:31 AM wrote: > http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/inspirational_sport_statues.html I know you probably weren't on the list back then, but we already discussed this some months ago... The Track one was especially disturbing for some people... Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:33:59 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation > Anyone else like Pussy? Sure, sometimes! I only consider myself a casual fan, but if you get trapped in an elevator with a girl who's too dull to discuss Commuting and Grammar with, it's definitely useful to have another way to pass the time. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:41:30 -0700 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation Spit take (Diet Pepsi). - ----- Original Message ----- From: glenn mcdonald Sent: 3/18/2002 10:33:59 AM To: loud-fans@smoe.org;dana-boy@juno.com Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation > > Anyone else like Pussy? > > Sure, sometimes! I only consider myself a casual fan, but if you get trapped > in an elevator with a girl who's too dull to discuss Commuting and Grammar > with, it's definitely useful to have another way to pass the time. > > glenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:55:26 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation inevitable that, but i must say, glenn wasn't the corner i expected it from. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Roger Winston wrote: > Spit take (Diet Pepsi). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: glenn mcdonald > Sent: 3/18/2002 10:33:59 AM > To: loud-fans@smoe.org;dana-boy@juno.com > Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation > > > > Anyone else like Pussy? > > > > Sure, sometimes! I only consider myself a casual fan, but if you get trapped > > in an elevator with a girl who's too dull to discuss Commuting and Grammar > > with, it's definitely useful to have another way to pass the time. > > > > glenn > - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation > inevitable that, but i must say, glenn wasn't the > corner i expected it from. I had my money on either Jeff or Rog but yes, I was counting the seconds on that one. OK, content, hmmm...oh yeah! Everyone make sure you rent DONNIE DARKO when it's released on video and DVD tomorrow. It's absolutely amazing and glenn will back me up on that. Jer ===== Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:09:59 -0700 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation Jer Fairall on 3/18/2002 4:00:33 AM wrote: > I had my money on either Jeff or Rog but yes, I was > counting the seconds on that one. Sorry, I'm trying to stay away from being predictable lately. Maybe I'll even stop drinking beer. > OK, content, hmmm...oh yeah! Everyone make sure you > rent DONNIE DARKO when it's released on video and DVD > tomorrow. It's absolutely amazing and glenn will back > me up on that. I ordered this DVD without having seen the flick... should arrive today or tomorrow... it better be worth it, or I'm coming after you guys. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:15:07 -0800 From: "The Imperial Butt Wizards" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] While we're on the subject of usage... glenn - great response - but i think you hurt my brain. i've always been told i use too many commas, but no one has ever clarified the rules. i also continually get the 'this sentence is too long' message from the ever helpful (ha) Word. TM. and i have to chip in here - the other day, while discussing his work, my boyfriend told me he'd be giving his client a synapsis of the project. (strangely, this project is for a man name Rod Cone... poor man) later that night, my father used his favorite screwed up pair of words: he 'set' on the couch, and asked me to 'sit' the book on the table. brianna - -- monkeys are funny. look at one and you will laugh, the hilarity http://students.washington.edu/dglasser/monkeys.html - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey" To: "Omnes Cogitate Nimium" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: RE: [loud-fans] While we're on the subject of usage... > On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, glenn mcdonald wrote: > > > > "He recorded the album in Los Angeles with the pianist Brad > > > Mehldau and the bassist Charlie Haden." > > > > I can imagine justifying the "the"s as a way of indicating that the > > players are well known for those roles outside the context of this > > album, but not necessarily well known to the *reader*. Saying "pianist > > Brad Mehldau" could imply "some guy named Brad Mehldau who happens to > > play the piano on this one record", when in fact both Mehldau and Haden > > *are* well-repsected instrumentalists in their own rights. I.e.: "*The* > > Charlie Haden, the bassist?" "Yes." > > Makes sense to me... I suppose a test case would be something like "On > 'Nice When I Want Something,' Scott Miller recruited the guitarist Mike > Keneally" (Keneally being, in the infamous phrase, well-known among people > who've heard of him) vs. "On 'Shining Emerald Monkeys,' The Garden Gnomes > of Zurich recruited the guitarist Bud Sprenkler"...which sounds kind of > pretentious if you know that Bud is just some guy playing with a barely > known local band. In that case, plain ol' "guitarist Bud Sprenkler" (no > article) seems better. > > Uh...any Buddhists on the list? Got a couple of questions: I have a vague > memory of a Buddhist proverb along the lines of "If you meet the Buddha on > the road, kill him" - and I've always connected the lines in that > Shriekback song ("we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha") > with that proverb. Am I remembering the Buddhist thing correctly? And if > so, what does it mean? (I have some ideas, but as a non-Buddhist would > have no way of knowing if they're remotely approaching a Buddhist > understanding of them.) (Anyone who includes the word "Grasshopper" in > reply...watch your ass, I say. Watch your ass.) > > In other news, while writing comments on a student paper, after three > sentences enumerating some issues involved with writing a paper centering > around a personal narrative, I found myself beginning a summary sentence > with "So, you have a decision..." The comma came out from my typing > fingers before I even thought about it...but sure enough, it was > functioning pretty much as glenn described it, being bound to the ideas of > the three preceding sentences more than to those of this sentence. > > I suspect this works with other conjunctions as well: functionally, they > work adverbially, along the lines of "therefore" and such. > > How come we're not talking about the death of Wall of Voodoo guitarist > Marc Moreland? > > --Jeff > > J e f f r e y N o r m a n > The Architectural Dance Society > www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html > ::The dog-eared pages, the highlighted passages, the margin > ::notations...this book has actually been read: it can't be a student's! > __Jose Chung__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:28:51 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation At 12:09 PM 3/18/2002 -0700, Roger Winston wrote: >> OK, content, hmmm...oh yeah! Everyone make sure you >> rent DONNIE DARKO when it's released on video and DVD >> tomorrow. It's absolutely amazing and glenn will back >> me up on that. > >I ordered this DVD without having seen the flick... should arrive today or >tomorrow... it better be worth it, or I'm coming after you guys. Noel Murray's review of it in the SCENE was one of those frustrating ones where you know the reviewer really thinks it's worthwhile, but he spent so much time nitpicking that the casual reader is going to think "why should I go see this mediocre rattletrap?" Full text at: Much like Noel's GHOST WORLD review, come to think of it: Incidentally, while at THE ONION's site the other week, I noticed that Josh Rouse was the featured review in the AV Club, so I went over there and saw that Noel had written all but a couple of that week's reviews. I don't always read the AV Club stuff, so is Noel writing a lot of those reviews par for the course? later, Miles np: MILES TO GO, a 2002 Joe Mallon swap extravaganza ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:49:03 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Now, this is a tragic death Ya bastards. I come back from the Deep South, far removed from any hipster news, and my favorite pop list still skips over one of the major sad events of last week--or if somebody mentioned it, I sure didn't see it. Instead, I had to find out while getting a response to an interview request. (Oops). Well, this isn't a shock to anybody who's actually seen his pic in the booklet of the new album. The guy looked past death. Still, "Take It To The Spotlight" is one to go out on, and the presence of John Parish means you won't look like you're stuck in the past when you play it around the house. Here's the press release.... Marc Moreland passed away in the early morning on Wednesday March 13th in Paris, France due to liver transplant complications. Marc was deeply loved by his family, friends and fans and will be greatly missed. Marc Moreland was the former guitarist and founder of Wall of Voodoo, which released 9 albums in a little over a decade, notably the hit single "Mexican Radio" in the mid-eighties, before disbanding around 1989. Since then Moreland had been working on various music projects, including his own Ensenada Joyride in Europe, and Department of Crooks, which released an album in the U.S. He had also been involved in film and had produced underground bands in the U.S. and Europe. On March 5th, 2002, Marc released his debut solo album entitled Marc Moreland Mess "Take it to the Spotlight". The album features Jean-Marc Butty (PJ Harvey, Jean-Louis Murat) on drums and percussion; John Parish (PJ Harvey, Eels, Dominic A.) on second counterpoint guitars, percussion, backing vocals, production, etc...; Joachim Barbier on bass; Lisa Dewey on backing vocals; and Marc Moreland on guitar, vocals, keyboards, bass, etc... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:47:52 -0800 From: "The Imperial Butt Wizards" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas yes - basketball: jesus as a ball hog, football: jesus getting groped and there was one on another page that had jesus grabbing a little boy's butt. i'm going straight to hell.... - -- monkeys are funny. look at one and you will laugh, the hilarity http://students.washington.edu/dglasser/monkeys.html - -- - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas > http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/inspirational_sport_statues.html > > > ------------------------------------------------- > BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL WEBMAIL: info.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:09:50 -0500 (EST) From: jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas Quoting The Imperial Butt Wizards : > basketball: > jesus as a ball hog, > > football: > jesus getting groped The one thing bothered me the most (other than the fact that Jesus looks like Al Gore '02) was hockey: Jesus as Theo Fleury, about to lay a major full-body check on some poor unsuspecting youths. The most frustrating thing about the site is that there are apparently a half dozen more figurines they don't give you pictures of gymnastics...rollerblading?). Guess I'll just have to order the whole set. JS - ------------------------------------------------- BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL WEBMAIL: info.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:58:34 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:33:59 -0500 "glenn mcdonald" writes: >> Anyone else like Pussy? > >Sure, sometimes! I only consider myself a casual fan, but if you get >trapped >in an elevator with a girl who's too dull to discuss Commuting and >Grammar >with, it's definitely useful to have another way to pass the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd just like to remind everyone that you get a limited number of set-up lines like that in life, so make the best of them. I'm very pleased with myself for playing it straight; God always rewards the good, and when I get to heaven I fully expect to be greeted by an angel asking, "How do you get to Carnegie Hall?" followed by another angel asking, "What's a henway?" followed by an angel who has Prince Albert in a can... Anyways, fellow 8th graders, "Donnie Darko" is pretty good, though it's been out on video/dvd in my neighborhood for a while. I did find myself shouting "Be careful, movie!!" several times as it trod perilously close to dangerous ground, but in each case the movie listened to me and avoided whatever plot/acting pitfall it was flirting with. Time Out New York gives it a pretty middling review, for reasons that escape me. For some reason, my money was on Sharples. Definitely didn't expect glenn. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:31:28 -0500 (EST) From: jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation Quoting Dana L Paoli : > I'd just like to remind everyone that you get a limited number of > set-up > lines like that in life, so make the best of them. I'm very pleased > with > myself for playing it straight; God always rewards the good, and when > I > get to heaven I fully expect to be greeted by an angel asking, "How do > you get to Carnegie Hall?" followed by another angel asking, "What's a > henway?" followed by an angel who has Prince Albert in a can... > For some reason, my money was on Sharples. Definitely didn't expect > glenn. Yeah, my eyes did a Jim-Carrey-as-THE-MASK when the post came over, but earlier this month my friend Rutenberg gave me the set-up line about the midget fishing in his pockets for change, and I didn't wanna be greedy. Glenn's riposte was awesome and just as unexpected. JS - ------------------------------------------------- BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL WEBMAIL: info.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:44:34 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas > jesus as a ball hog, > jesus getting groped If you like these, hop on over to http://www.birdhouse.org/words/glenn/christ.htm... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:59:35 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] swap review: MILES TO GO (pt. 1) When Joe drew me for a Loud-Swap, I gave him a modicum of input -- picking a few things from his year-end lists, Loud-Fan posts, and www.joescafe.com recommendations -- but otherwise carte blanche. Here's how it all turned out... Joe entitled the CD MILES TO GO. This really Frosted me. Donnie Iris, "Ah Leah" Though I've become familiar with this song over the last ten years, I can't remember if I ever heard it back when it was a top 25 hit in... 1980? 1981? I do remember seeing him in magazines like CREEM while folks tried to figure out if he was underground or not. Anyway, this is a great song that sounds the way I always wish ELO would have -- the processed layered vocals on the chorus a la ELO, but a lot more guitar and overall punch. Is anything else by him this good, or does he look all Elvis Costello but play all Corey Hart? Penelope Houston, "Grand Prix" One of the big winners here. I've read Loud-Fan praises of Ms. Houston but have never heard her in any of her incarnations before. If this track is any indication, she's sassy, smart, and sexy, and she coaxes this song further than you'd think it could go -- it's a sturdy, fun song, but it's Penelope's vocal performance that makes it special. My god, I'll think about motorsports on TV the same way again. Anton Barbeau, "Banana 2000" I was already an Anton fan, though at the time of this compilation, not yet an owner of THE GOLDEN BOOT, from whence "Banana 2000" hails. Or maybe it hails from Pluto, it's hard to tell with Anton. This epic track plays like a Mad Lib with one variable: "Name a fruit." Melissa speculated that a superintelligent lab monkey might be the protagonist (the post-song headline: "DRUGCO LAB MONKEY BREAKS COMPANY RULES." The subhead: "Does Not Get a Banana"). I'm not sure if I buy that, but repeat listens show the song to be insidiously effective at permeating your existence whether you want it to or not -- I've had to keep myself from saying to my boss "don't I get a banana?" Jill Olson, "Conquer the World" I don't *dislike* this track, but it strikes me as pretty standard Americana/alt-country female singer-songwriter fare. More rocking than Mary Chapin Carpenter, thank goodness, and nice chiming guitar work on the outro, but not especially memorable. Henry Elsesser, "You'll Be Gone" Seems like this is the "unmemorable" patch of the CD. Again, a nice enough singer-songwritery track, this one being a ballad, but nothing that Chris Von Sneidern doesn't surpass five times on every one of his CDs. In fact, this sounds like a more rootsy version of CVS... Warren Malone, "Beneath Your Wheels" I haven't really decided if Malone's voice is an irritant -- really high-pitched male voices don't usually play well with me (with certain curly-maned exceptions, of course). The song's written like he's being paid by the metaphor, since tons of them are packed into three and a half minutes. The one I like the best is "I try to shake you like a dog in the rain" part. But again, not a grabber. 5 Chinese Brothers, "Let's Kill Saturday Night" This Robbie Fulks cover concludes the Americana section of the CD. I'm not sure if it adds anything to Fulks' own take. In fact, it's a lot closer to mainstream country (think the less produced moments of Alan Jackson) than to the full-throttle glory of Jason & the Scorchers and the V-Roys -- one layer of syrup and it could slide onto the next Alan Jackson album and make Robbie a millionaire. Okay, but nothing special. The Orange Peels, "So Far" I have the Alan Clapp & His Orchestra and first Orange Peels record, and like them both well enough. I never have picked up SO FAR. I ought to remedy that, and the album's title track does nothing to un-convince me -- very well-constructed, an ultra-poppy chorus where the word "far" becomes "fa-fa-fa-fa-fa," etc. But I don't know if an Alan Clapp product will do more for me than make me go "mmm, that's nice and catchy," though that's certainly achievement enough. Simple, "Void the Loop" Electronic, instrumental piece. No Aphex Twin-like beats, but a lot more structured than Eno's ambient work. From the mind of Joe Mallon, I believe. And devilishly, seamlessly segued into... Rush, "Madrigal" Heh. Nice try. At least Joe was merciful about it -- it's only 2:32. Is that a flute or a flute patch? Geddy Lee's bass playing on this track sounds remarkably like Andy Metcalfe. Weird. To be continued... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:03:54 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [loud-fans] six degrees of stereo separation > I'd just like to remind everyone that you get a limited number of > set-up lines like that in life, so make the best of them. I remind the panel that during the googlewhacking thread I provided the straight line "I was following this same impulse earlier, but I couldn't figure out how to reduce the amount of fellatio and sodomy I was getting." My karma is well-balanced. And if I could balance like that, I wouldn't need the lotion, glenn PS: Donnie Darko rocks. PPS: Also Tsai Ming-Liang. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:28:56 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas I misread the subject line and thought it said we could get *Brianna* for Christmas. Oh shit - did I just post that to the list? Anyway, a while back we were talking about profession-appropriate names. I was watching TV the other night and would have done a truly awesome spit-take had I had the foresight to have been drinking anything when I noticed the little notice at the end of some ad sponsored by the Republican Party of Wisconsin...whose treasurer is named (drumroll please) Buck Schilling. Go to http://www.wisgop.org/ and scroll down to the bottom of the page if ya don't believe me. Also: you know the little icon that shows up in M$ products when it asks you if you want to save your document, or otherwise thinks you're about to make a mistake...the exclamation mark inside the yellow triangle? Where is that icon located, and can I open it up and futz with it? - --the Loudfan Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Some see things as they are, and say "Why?" ::Some see things as they could be, and say "Why not?" ::Some see things that aren't there, and say "Huh?" np: the Shazam s/t ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:29:35 -0500 From: Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas This reminds me of a joke. (Stop here if blasphemy bothers you) Question: Do you want to see how Jesus bit his nails? Answer: [Pantomime nibbling at your palms] -julianne, non-denominational blasphemer Still laughing about the foosball table christ product.... > -----Original Message----- > From: glenn mcdonald [mailto:glenn@furia.com] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:45 PM > To: The Imperial Butt Wizards; loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas > > > > jesus as a ball hog, > > jesus getting groped > > If you like these, hop on over to > http://www.birdhouse.org/words/glenn/christ.htm... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:38:08 -0500 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:28:56 -0600 (CST), Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Also: you know the little icon that shows up in M$ products when it asks >you if you want to save your document, or otherwise thinks you're about to >make a mistake...the exclamation mark inside the yellow triangle? Where is >that icon located, and can I open it up and futz with it? It is IDI_EXCLAMATION. From your program, call LoadIcon. Be sure to set hInstance to 0. You can use GetObject() to extract it into a bitmap. Oh wait, wrong list. Get some software that does screen captures and capture it off of an error dialog. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:43:52 -0800 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas On 3/18/02, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >I was watching TV the other night and would have done a truly awesome >spit-take had I had the foresight to have been drinking anything when I >noticed the little notice at the end of some ad sponsored by the >Republican Party of Wisconsin...whose treasurer is named (drumroll please) >Buck Schilling. For some reason the Republican party is full of such double-take names. Tom DeLay, Dick Armey. Last night Jo and I were watching a TV news team interview a fireman whose first name was "Arsen". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:08:16 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Oh...um...so anyway...(ns) So, anyway, there's this band called Pussy who had an album called "Pussy Plays" that got reissued by Edsel, I believe, last year. It's got a big red cat on the cover. Get it?? Pussies are cats!! It's my belief that the members of the band *never* considered any other interpretation. After all, why would anyone think dirty thoughts, when instead they could be thinking about cute little kittens, bouncing hither and thither? Aaaah. To me, it sounds like a mix of Pink Floyd and the Moody Blues (though someone more up on their British psych might come up with a better description), and I like it a lot. I think it came out in the late '60's, but the reissue that I have (an earlier one, which may or may not have been legit, unfortunately) has absolutely zero information, and Allmusic isn't very helpful. The other reason that I like this album is that on one song, an absolute dead ringer for Robyn Hitchcock does a spoken piece that's a dead ringer for one of Robyn's little digressions. The resemblance, both vocal and in the vocabulary, is just uncanny. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:47:50 -0800 From: "The Imperial Butt Wizards" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] what you can get me for christmas Jeffrey says: > I misread the subject line and thought it said we could get *Brianna* for > Christmas. well, no. but it IS my birthday today. i'm 29 - the age i will claim to be for the rest of my life. it's weird - i've gotten birthday greetings from people i never would have thought would say anything, and little or no acknowledgment from the people i see every day. kinda cool - lots of surprises that way. born in '73, still get carded for cigarettes (or i did until i quit a few months ago).... brianna - -- how to be irish: say these four words out loud one after another in order faster each time: WHALE OIL BEEF HOOKED - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:58:05 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] swap review: MILES TO GO (pt. 2) (continued from pt. 1) And make that crucial last sentence about Penelope Houston "My god, I'll NEVER think about motorsports on TV the same way again." The best sentence of the whole review and I flub it. Back to the Appy League for another year, I guess. Anyway... Stew, "Bermuda Love Triangle" Generally I hate hate hate the revival of Bacharach/David. It's morphed with PET SOUNDS fetishization and what under other circumstances would have been an overdue revival of interest in Nick Drake into my own personal NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, as hated sounds I thought were long vanquished rise from the grave and claim victim after victim, not sparing old favorites (Elvis Costello, R.E.M.) and short-circuiting talented newcomers. Stew remains a glorious exception, plying the treacherous Bacharach/David waters but staying buoyant with spectacular lyrics and a personality that transcends the sounds themselves -- the sounds don't work him, he works the sounds! This little morality tale is no exception, floating through its verses with the pacing of a good short story, and Melissa laughed out loud when she heard the "don't hate the player, hate the game" line. Great stuff. Hilarius Bookbinder, "Blue Distraction" Joe has to be thinking at this point, "So he liked Penelope Houston and not any of my other recommendations, hrmph." Well, hold your horses, and pshaw. And such like. This track intrigues me, from its almost Fripp-like opening guitar figure to the phrasing in the vocal delivery to the unusual word choices. Unlike the Olson-5 Chinese Brothers sequence, "Blue Distraction" leaves me wanting more. Badly Drawn Boy, "Everybody's Stalking" Despite the massive hype surrounding Badly Drawn Boy in 2001, this is the first song I've ever heard by him/them. I could never tell from the reviews if I'd like Badly Drawn Boy or not, making him/it an ideal candidate for inclusion on a swap. I like what I hear on "Everybody's Stalking" -- good energy, ominous chords, Bunnymen-like guitar timbre, half-intelligible words to puzzle out. I'd still like to hear two or three more songs before taking the plunge, but this track works for me. Liz Phair, "Dead Shark" Like with Stew and Anton Barbeau, I don't need to be sold on Lizzez Phaire. But believe it or not, I don't own JUVENILIA. Is this the version from it? Demo-like, but with the trademark Liz balance between shield-up put-downs and wide-open emotional vulnerability. Or maybe I'm putting in too much subtext. I like it, and maybe it and "Shark Pretty" will be future comp tape neighbors. Belle Da Gama, "The Three Cornered World" Jeffrey, in his TOAST review of GARDEN ABSTRACT, said something about how it was amazing that a person you've known as a personal friend since way back when makes something of this quality, and not just ordinary quality but multi-layered quality. Well, he said it better than that, but I'm seconding it. Huge Scott influence worn on sleeve, especially on the dual-lead-vocal choruses. Yuji Oniki, "Tokyo Clover" See the first comments under Stew (above). But here there's not Stew-like transcendence: the early '70s E-Z listening chordings, '70s E-Z listening vocal stylings, and worst of all, the damn '70s horns just kill it for me. The Kirby Grips, "Fireman" Chirpy, saucy, catchy! It's got its own little rhythm to it, that insistent groovy woodblock thing in the verses alternating with the sustained power chords in the choruses. And it's about having a girlhood crush on the fireman dad of the singer's best friend, I think. Cool, unique lil' song! I'm ready for recommendations to follow up. The Donnas, "40 Days in 40 Nights" I'm not sure that we hadn't already established that women can do kick-ass songs where men are treated as sex objects, but if it wasn't, this song oughta do the trick. Are the rest of their records this poppy and fun? Bonus points for using *and* rhyming the word "Decatur." Shalini, "Conviction Overturned" This is some of the most forceful singing I've heard Shalini do on record, and I'll reiterate that she ought to throw caution to the wind more often, especially when the songs rock this much. Of course Godlike Genius Mitch Easter serves up the guitar hooks, but it's really Shalini's vocal that makes it work. OK, that's it! And I think it gets a pretty darn good scorecard: ALREADY LIKED: Anton Barbeau, Orange Peels, Stew, Liz Phair, Shalini WANNA GET MORE OF: Penelope Houston, Hilarius Bookbinder, Badly Drawn Boy, Kirby Grips, Donnas, possibly Donnie Iris ALREADY GOT MORE OF: Belle Da Gama Joe, thanks for a fun CD! The banana is on its way! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:00:45 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] swap review: MILES TO GO (pt. 2) At Monday 3/18/2002 04:58 PM -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >Joe has to be thinking at this point, "So he liked Penelope Houston and >not any of my other recommendations, hrmph." Well, hold your horses, and >pshaw. And such like. The only reason I do a cursory glance at these tape swap reviews is because I'm hoping someday someone will say to someone else "Your taste sucks. This is the worst mix tape I've ever received. I hope to God you never have me in the swap again. This tape is so bad that I'm afraid to even tape over it, in fear that the replacement music will become infected." But no. All I ever see is "Thanks for an interesting tape!" (aka "You have a great personality!"). For a fleeting joyful moment, when I read the above, I had hope that Miles was about to venture near that territory. (Not to cast dispersions on either Joe's or Miles' tastes, which are generally pretty decent, but ya know how I am...) Thanks for dashing my hopes, Miles. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:53:04 -0400 From: John F Butland Subject: Re: [loud-fans] apropos of nothing... At 08:11 PM 02-03-17 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >(another patented All-Purpose Loudfans Subject Line...) > >So I was in a restaurant for lunch today, and on the TV screen displaying >CNN there was a crawl that mentioned something about a "fierce gun >battle," and I found myself questioning that adjective...as in: what >exactly would a non-fierce gun battle be like? > >[Gun Battler 1, as bullet lazily wafts past]: Oh dear, a bullet. I may >have to think about returning fire...p'raps next Tuesday? > >[Gun Battler 2, learning to play the banjo in the interim]: Come and get >me, copper. If you'd like, that is - wouldn't want to impose. > >Adjectives: can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em. Reminds me of a sign I see often since I grew up literally a stone's throw from the US/Canada border and still live a little more than an hour from the border. When returning to The Great White North there's a sign at customs that says "All Offensive Weapons Must be Declared." Does that mean *defensive* weapons don't need to be declared? And how exactly does one differentiate between the two? What's this under your dirty boxers? Um, that's a stinger missile. OK, no problem, *that's* a defensive weapon, no doubt about it. Of course I've never had a lot of confidence in Customs officers - a few weeks ago while passing through Pearson airport in Toronto I had a customs officer ask me why I was visiting Canada after I had just handed them my Canadian passport. best, jfb John F Butland O- butland@nbnet.nb.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:09:10 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] apropos of nothing... At Monday 3/18/2002 08:53 PM -0400, you wrote: >Of course I've never had a lot of confidence in Customs officers - a few >weeks ago while passing through Pearson airport in Toronto I had a customs >officer ask me why I was visiting Canada after I had just handed them my >Canadian passport. One of the most frightening experiences of my life involved being grilled by Canadian Customs Officials in a small, dank, barely-lighted room with uncomfortable furniture. After a half-hour of sweating profusely, I was let go. They finally determined that I was not a dangerous computer software smuggler out to rob the Canadian people of their rightful tariffs. I had less trouble getting through Japanese Customs with the same mag tapes (this was in the late 80s), even though those people were pointing machine guns at me. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #107 *******************************