From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #60 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, February 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] For freaks with spare words [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time [triggercut ] Re: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time [=?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hu] [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 [Aaron Mandel ] [loud-fans] Tanya Donelly [Michael Mitton ] RE: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 ["Larry Tucker" ] [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] paging "phairist" [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q [Cindy Alvarez ] [loud-fans] RE: jojo ["Brett Milano" ] Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q ["Roger Winston" ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q [John Cooper ] Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q [Steve Holtebeck ] [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q, Lilac, Tanya (ns) [Dana L Paoli ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:38:19 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: RE: [loud-fans] For freaks with spare words On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, glenn mcdonald wrote: > Nice. I was following this same impulse earlier, but I couldn't figure > out how to reduce the amount of fellatio and sodomy I was getting. typically: put on pants, leave the room. in extreme cases a bucket of ice may be helpful. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:48:03 -0600 From: triggercut Subject: Re: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time "peloponnesian blowjob" now returns two hits. Flag on the play! "Keegstra, Russell" wrote: > > Me: > >algebra dominatrices ... 63,581,000,000 > glenn: > >routing dominatrices ... 72,816,000,000 > Tim: > >Peloponnesian blowjob ... 88,750,000,000 > > I think it's instructive that "blowjob" gets more hits than > either "algebra" or "routing". > > ...and Tim's is back on the air at Google, I don't know where > it went. > > Russ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:56:17 -0800 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time >"peloponnesian blowjob" now returns two hits. Flag on the play! I only get one, but it's a different one from yesterday's, which was book reviews rather than porn. Go figure. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:08:04 -0800 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time At 09:56 AM 2/7/02 -0800, Tim_Walters@digidesign.com wrote: > >"peloponnesian blowjob" now returns two hits. Flag on the play! > >I only get one, but it's a different one from yesterday's, which was book >reviews rather than porn. > >Go figure. Ah, Sparta, where pedagogy and pedophilia walked hand in hand... Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage. _The Holy Bible: The Old Testament_, The Second Book of Moses, Called Exodus, chapter 13, verse 3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:44:06 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= Subject: RE: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time Hey, I've just resubscribed! Crap, I'm sure you're doing this on purpose... :) Toodlepip, - -Stef Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 14:48:11 -0500 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: [loud-fans] Lilac6 Thanks to Steve H. and Bradley for recommending the Lilac Time's LILAC6: I just downloaded it from eMusic (a friend gave me 15 free downloads for Christmas), and am enjoying it. Is it representative of the Lilac Time's output? Beneath the pop surface, it sounds pretty folkie to me - it reminds me of the "sunshine pop" of the mid-sixties, before the Beatles had completely changed the ground rules. Can't figure out whether eMusic gives you access to credits, etc. - did Stephen Duffy write everything on the album? - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:48:16 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= Subject: Re: [loud-fans] For word freaks with spare time triggercut wrote: > "peloponnesian blowjob" now returns two hits. Flag on the play! Sounds more like flag on the pole to me... Toodlepip, - -Stef Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Dan Sallitt wrote: > Can't figure out whether eMusic gives you access to credits, etc. Ha! No. However, allmusic.com is an eMusic subscriber's best crutch, and they attribute all the tracks on Lilac6 to Duffy. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:10:25 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Mitton Subject: [loud-fans] Tanya Donelly If anyone's still paying attention to Tanya Donelly, you can stream her entire new album here: http://www.4ad.com/artists/donelly_tanya/player/beggars.html I've only listened to about half of it, and it didn't get me all that excited to listen to the other half. - --Michael http://www.filmatters.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 15:20:06 -0500 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 > > Can't figure out whether eMusic gives you access to credits, etc. > > Ha! No. However, allmusic.com is an eMusic subscriber's best crutch, and > they attribute all the tracks on Lilac6 to Duffy. But there are two Duffys in the band, no? - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:16:51 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 |-----Original Message----- |From: Aaron Mandel [mailto:aaron@eecs.harvard.edu] |Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:53 PM |To: Dan Sallitt |Cc: Where They've Got Such A Stem |Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 | | |On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Dan Sallitt wrote: | |> Can't figure out whether eMusic gives you access to credits, etc. | |Ha! No. However, allmusic.com is an eMusic subscriber's best |crutch, and they attribute all the tracks on Lilac6 to Duffy. | |a | This is my sole complaint with what is otherwise a great service that they provide. It's exposed me to a lot of stuff I would not have heard otherwise, but missing the credits is a real problem for me. - -LT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:35:29 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q Okay, thanks to some friends of ours, who positively forced us to watch it, we are know Iron Chef fans. So far, we've seen maybe six or seven episodes (apparently all from 1994-1995 - Michiba Rokusaboru has been Iron Chef Japanese in all of them), and I have a question or two: I've seen the challenger win only once. Izzit rigged? Also: what's the deal w/the Iron Chef Italian - is he like the Zeppo of Iron Chefs? No one seems to use him, poor guy - maybe he'll become a Maytag repairman... And: did they borrow the "resurrection" of the Iron Chefs from _Spinal Tap_ or what? Unbelievable. Also: has anyone here seen the Americanization w/William Shatner? I've heard nothing but utterly stinky things about it - do you concur? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the popularity of the gruesome FACES OF DEATH video series is ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:36:36 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] paging "phairist" Whose name is Jason, I believe - anyway, are you still here? I've received no response from my e-mail of last week. Sorry to bug the rest of y'all - I thought maybe he's subbed under a dif. address... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey (no value added content) J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Californians invented the concept of the life-style. ::This alone warrants their doom. __Don DeLillo, WHITE NOISE__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:40:18 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q At 02:35 PM 2/7/02 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Okay, thanks to some friends of ours, who positively forced us to watch >it, we are know Iron Chef fans. So far, we've seen maybe six or seven >episodes (apparently all from 1994-1995 - Michiba Rokusaboru has been Iron >Chef Japanese in all of them), and I have a question or two: > >I've seen the challenger win only once. Izzit rigged? No. The challengers do win -- actually, in the later episodes, they win surprisingly often. > >Also: what's the deal w/the Iron Chef Italian - is he like the Zeppo of >Iron Chefs? No one seems to use him, poor guy - maybe he'll become a >Maytag repairman... I have no idea why he's in the credits of the older episodes they're now running -- he didn't even join the show until over halfway through its run. However, watch on Sunday, because he's the chef on the dessert battle (chocolate and bananas) they're running as part of their Valentines Day specials. >Also: has anyone here seen the Americanization w/William Shatner? I've >heard nothing but utterly stinky things about it - do you concur? Charity and I saw the first ten minutes of the first show and turned it off - -- it was so thoroughly incompetent that it wasn't even fun to mock. I think only two episodes were shown before UPN wised up and pulled it. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:52:15 -0800 From: Cindy Alvarez Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q >I've seen the challenger win only once. Izzit rigged? Nope, but the judging panel does have certain taste and style preferences, which the Iron Chefs know. What you've been watching are the early seasons -- as it progresses, you get the sense that other challengers have been doing their homework (i.e. watching the show) and are better able to present. Also, a lot of challengers fail at "articulating the theme ingredient", which is really a separate but compatible goal from "being a good chef". If you watch, a lot of them rely on recipes that they serve in their restaurants already, just subbing in the theme ingredient. This is rarely a good strategy. >Also: what's the deal w/the Iron Chef Italian - is he like the Zeppo of >Iron Chefs? No one seems to use him, poor guy - maybe he'll become a >Maytag repairman... He gets used more in future seasons, esp. when they start bringing in younger challengers who don't want to take on chefs who have a 20 year head-start on them... >Also: has anyone here seen the Americanization w/William Shatner? I've >heard nothing but utterly stinky things about it - do you concur? It's AWFUL. It's not at all about the food, Shatner is horrid, and the on-screen graphics are a horrible abuse of Photoshop effects filters. c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:02:44 -0500 From: "Brett Milano" Subject: [loud-fans] RE: jojo Makes sense, because the song was originally written about a member of the band: "Hippie Johnny" = John Felice, longtime Real Kids leader and ex-Modern Lover (who now lives excactly three blocks from me..) The band, maybe. After all, he did sing about "Hippie Ernie" in this version. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:11:41 -0700 From: "Roger Winston" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q Stewart Mason on 2/7/2002 1:40:18 PM wrote: > At 02:35 PM 2/7/02 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > >Also: has anyone here seen the Americanization w/William Shatner? I've > >heard nothing but utterly stinky things about it - do you concur? > > Charity and I saw the first ten minutes of the first show and turned it off > -- it was so thoroughly incompetent that it wasn't even fun to mock. I > think only two episodes were shown before UPN wised up and pulled it. Since only the two episodes were filmed, UPN was semi-wise from the beginning. They wanted to see how well it would go over first in America before committing to more. But it really makes me wonder what they did with the two Iron Chefs they never used. Did those guys get paid for standing around? My problem with the Americanization (and I masochistically sat through both episodes) is that they just didn't seem to understand the appeal of the show. I see the Japanese Iron Chef as a sort of parody of televised American sports events mixed with an actual show about cooking. So it doesn't really work when you do it in America and try to do it *only* as a parody of an American sporting event, just even more so. Did that make sense? I think irony is involved here somehow, but I'm not sure if it's too much or not enough. They really did not focus on the food at all, just on the showmanship, the corniness, and the yakking. And having Shatner as the Chairman really takes one out of the illusion. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 14:12:53 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac6 Dan Sallitt wrote: > > > Can't figure out whether eMusic gives you access to credits, etc. > > > > Ha! No. However, allmusic.com is an eMusic subscriber's best crutch, and > > they attribute all the tracks on Lilac6 to Duffy. > > But there are two Duffys in the band, no? - Dan Yes, Stephen and Nick Duffy are both in the band. I don't have the CD handy, but I think Nick wrote the two instrumental tracks ("Jupe Longue" and "June Buffalo"), and Stephen wrote everything else. > Is it representative of the Lilac Time's output? Beneath the pop > surface, it sounds pretty folkie to me - it reminds me of the > "sunshine pop" of the mid-sixties, before the Beatles had completely > changed the ground rules. Lilac6 and the previous Lilac Time album Looking For a Day in the Night are more folky/less poppy than the earlier albums or Duffy's solo albums. Lots of fans of the older Lilac Time albums didn't care for Lilac6, but I think it's one of the best things Stephen's ever done. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:55:10 -0800 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q I kind of like the idea of Iron Chef Q, with Iron Chef M being the Chairman and the various regional Iron Chefs being the 007s. On 2/7/02, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Okay, thanks to some friends of ours, who positively forced us to watch >it, we are know Iron Chef fans. So far, we've seen maybe six or seven >episodes (apparently all from 1994-1995 - Michiba Rokusaboru has been Iron >Chef Japanese in all of them), and I have a question or two: > >I've seen the challenger win only once. Izzit rigged? Hey, I've seen at least ten Iron Chefs and I still haven't seen the challenger win, even when he obviously bested the Iron Chef, both in my opinion and in that of the celebrity judges. I was beginning to think that when an Iron Chef loses, he's forced to commit seppuku with his cooking knife. On the other hand, they always cut right to the credits when the Iron Chef is once again declared the winner, as if they're really embarrassed about it. >Also: has anyone here seen the Americanization w/William Shatner? I've >heard nothing but utterly stinky things about it - do you concur? I watched the first one and I liked it, although it seemed pointless since the originals are still on the air. I was impressed by how faithfully they duplicated the entire concept, including such quintessentially Japanese touches such as the overblown level of respect given to the bugaboo "Chairman." Giving all the roles to Americans added a level of surrealism I found wonderfully disorienting; like watching a version of the Muppet Show where all the puppets were modelled after human actors who were chosen because they looked like the original puppets. The levels of apparent seriousness within mock seriousness within apparent seriousness became even more impossible to sort than in the original show. I half-expected English-speaking translators speaking over the English-speaking commentators. Having actual culinary experts wear yellow jackets and talk about the food being prepared as if they were completely ignorant of high cuisine was another nice touch. I'm sorry it failed, but in the end it was just too weird for television. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:15:33 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Cooper wrote: > respect given to the bugaboo "Chairman." Giving all the roles to > Americans added a level of surrealism I found wonderfully > disorienting; like watching a version of the Muppet Show where all > the puppets were modelled after human actors who were chosen because > they looked like the original puppets. Now stop picking on poor John Denver again. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Being young, carefree, having your whole life ahead of you, ::dancing the night away to celebrate... ::oh, and the untimely death of Jackson Pollock. np: _Together Now Very Minor_ (optimistically subtitled "volume 1"...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:27:37 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Talk of the Nation on NPR, or The Usual Suspects On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 12:01 AM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > Anyone feel like calling in to suggest, say, Big Star leading to Game > Theory/Loud Family? TOTN Listeners' Top 25 Most Influential Bands of All Time 1. The Beatles 2. The Rolling Stones 3. Led Zeppelin 4. U2 5. Pink Floyd 6. The Velvet Underground 7. The Ramones 8. Nirvana 9. The Doors 10. Grateful Dead 11. CSNY/Neil Young 12. Bob Dylan/The Band 13. The Jimi Hendrix Experience 14. The Who 15. The Beach Boys 16. The Clash 17. The Sex Pistols 18. Eric Clapton 19. Elvis Presley 20. Metallica 21. Parliament 22. REM 23. Black Sabbath 24. The Byrds 25. Iggy Pop and the Stooges - - Steve __________ While still at the Department of Justice, Rehnquist provided the best definition of a strict constructionist I have ever encountered. It was in a memo Rehnquist wrote while he was vetting Judge Clement Haynsworth, one of Nixon's selections who was rejected by the Senate. Rehnquist wrote, in brief, that a strict constructionist was anyone who likes prosecutors and dislikes criminal defendants and who favors civil rights defendants over civil rights plaintiffs. That is as candid and blunt as you can get. And that is the real definition of a strict constructionist. - John Dean ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:15:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Valentine's songs > Suggestions? Off the top of my head... "Valentine," Replacements (PLEASED TO MEET ME) "Valentine's Day," Steve Earle (I FEEL ALRIGHT) "Valentine's Day," Bruce Springsteen (TUNNEL OF LOVE) "My Funny Valentine," Bill Janovitz (LONESOME BILLY) Jer ===== Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:23:05 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Okay, thanks to some friends of ours, who positively forced us to watch > it, we are know Iron Chef fans. So far, we've seen maybe six or seven > episodes (apparently all from 1994-1995 - Michiba Rokusaboru has been Iron > Chef Japanese in all of them), and I have a question or two: > > I've seen the challenger win only once. Izzit rigged? There's an official breakdown of the stats for each iron chef at http://www.ironchef.com/ironstats.shtml They went through a little dry spell at the end of the show's run, but were pretty unbeatable on the whole. I've only seen a few losses in the episodes they show on Food TV. > Also: what's the deal w/the Iron Chef Italian - is he like the Zeppo of > Iron Chefs? No one seems to use him, poor guy - maybe he'll become a > Maytag repairman... Was there an Iron Chef Italian before Masahiko Kobe? He didn't join the show until late in it's run (his first appearance was on the 6/13/97 "short pasta" battle), which helped me understand why some of the shows have three iron chefs and some have four. I remember one show where Kobe made something called "pork dessert", two words that should never be used side by side for any food product intended to be eaten. > Also: has anyone here seen the Americanization w/William Shatner? I've > heard nothing but utterly stinky things about it - do you concur? Yes, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:40:02 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q, Lilac, Tanya (ns) >I've seen the challenger win only once. Izzit rigged? Nope, but the judging panel does have certain taste and style preferences, which the Iron Chefs know. What you've been watching are the early seasons -- as it progresses, you get the sense that other challengers have been doing their homework (i.e. watching the show) and are better able to present. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is totally unscientific, but I seem to recall that the Italian challengers did better than those from other backgrounds. My favorite episode remains the one where the Italian guy broke out the dry ice and the blowtorch to make pasta. Re: Lilac Time: I'll add a vote in favor of "Looking for a Day In the Night" which is lovely. That was my introduction to the band, and I didn't care at all for their earlier stuff when I got around to hearing it, so there may be a stylistic divide there that's worth looking out for. Re: Tanya Donelly: I was just listening to one of her old singles the other day (Gepetto b/w Sexy S) and marvelling at how quirky and good it is compared with the big single "Feed the Tree." I never bought any of her stuff after the first album, but I've always wondered if she had other singles and/or album tracks that were as interesting as Gepetto/Sexy S. If anyone would like a free promo CD copy of Air Miami's wonderful (and underrated) "Me Me Me" feel free to email. I didn't realize that I still had it. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:46:43 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Iron Chef Q, Lilac, Tanya (ns) In a message dated 2/7/02 10:45:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, dana-boy@juno.com writes: > Re: Tanya Donelly: I was just listening to one of her old singles the > other day (Gepetto b/w Sexy S) and marvelling at how quirky and good it > is compared with the big single "Feed the Tree." I never bought any of > her stuff after the first album, but I've always wondered if she had > other singles and/or album tracks that were as interesting as > Gepetto/Sexy S. > > I recomend Belly's second album King. It's better than the first, although more poppy. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:18:22 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Talk of the Nation on NPR, or The Usual Suspects On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, steve wrote: > TOTN Listeners' Top 25 Most Influential Bands of All Time Ah, good: a spark for quibbling: > 1. The Beatles Hard to argue with, really. > 4. U2 Wait a minute: U2 ahead of...well, lots of other bands? Popular, yes - and they spawned a few imitators...but really, I'm uncertain how *influential* they've been. Discuss; w/r/t what TOTN means by "influential" and what its listeners think it means. > 8. Nirvana C'mon...Nirvana was huge - but the imitators of grunge (if Nirvana is grunge) were all following the Pearl Jam axis thereof. PJ should be on this list: mid-nineties "alternative" rock singing was largely an homage to Eddie Vedder's bizarre vowels. > 11. CSNY/Neil Young Even though Neil's *in* CSNY, his solo music sounds nothing like CSNY's. So why are they lumped together? > 12. Bob Dylan/The Band As above. > 21. Parliament but no James Brown?!? And where's Bruce Springsteen? Or Bob Freakin' Marley? Both - particularly the second - hugely influential on much music that followed. Kind of "rockist" too: would the sixties have been the sixties w/o Burt Bacharach? And would the late nineties into today be what they are w/o him? There are probably more I could butt heads with - someone else can do the honors... And no David Wiffen either. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"am I being self-referential?":: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:29:44 -0600 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Lilac Time On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 09:40 PM, Dana L Paoli wrote: > Re: Lilac Time: I'll add a vote in favor of "Looking for a Day In the > Night" which is lovely. That was my introduction to the band, and I > didn't care at all for their earlier stuff when I got around to hearing > it, so there may be a stylistic divide there that's worth looking out > for. Does that include & Love For All? I love the production by Andy P. (although he and the band evidently didn't get along well enough to do the whole album, or maybe he was just slow). Seems to me that Duffy has a pretty identifiable style on his solo and the Lilac Time albums. The solo albums are the rockin' variant and the Lilac Time albums are differentiated by their instrumentation and personnel. And if I could sing, I'd like to sound like Stephen Duffy. - - Steve __________ One of the president's close acquaintances outside the White House said Mr. Bush clearly feels he has encountered his reason for being, a conviction informed and shaped by the president's own strain of Christianity. "I think, in his frame, this is what God has asked him to do," the acquaintance said. - Frank Bruni, NYT, on Bush's new war ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #60 ******************************