From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #30 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, January 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] movie opinion ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] Introduction [mweber@library.berkeley.edu (Matthew Weber)] Re: [loud-fans] Magnetic Beatles ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] 24 through 46 ["Brian Block" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:57:22 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] movie opinion A long segmented discussion of Film 2001 betwixt several critics, including a long segmented discussion of IN THE BEDROOM, starts at the link below. Some spoilers, though, if that sort of thing bothers you. http://slate.msn.com/?id=2060073&entry=2060177 THE PRICE OF MILK gets absolutely no coverage at all, Andy Justin, JC and Lance, meet your newest competition: Archie, Jughead and Veronica. That's right, the man behind such pop creations as the Backstreet Boys, 'N Sync and O-Town is moving onto a different type of two-dimensional character: Boy-band mogul Lou Pearlman says he's teaming up with Archie Entertainment to launch real-life music groups based on The Archies and Josie and the Pussycats comic books. With the help of former BMG President Strauss Zelnick, Pearlman's Trans Continental Entertainment is staging a nationwide search for young musicians to become the next Archie, Jughead, Veronica and Betty, in preparation for a new album, tour and TV show based on Riverdale High's finest rockers. "We're going to bring Archie into the next century," Pearlman tells E! Online. "Musically, it's going to capture today's pop-culture market...The Archies will be able to tour, and I think it will be tremendous." Specifically, Pearlman's hunting for young people who can sing, dance and play their own instruments for the new project, which he describes as "more contemporary pop and pop-rock." (And yes, "if they do look like Archie and Jughead that would help," he adds.) The talent search is one of several projects being launched this year by Archie Entertainment to help celebrate the comic book's 60-year anniversary. Of course, if this all sounds oddly familiar, it should: The Archies, first introduced in the 1940s, were already turned into a hit cartoon and chart-topping band in the late 1960s, appearing on CBS and scoring a number one hit with the song "Sugar, Sugar." Thanks to a group of studio musicians enlisted by '60s bubblegum pop mogul Don Kirshner, the Archies' catchy, saccharine-friendly tune sold six million copies and even knocked the Rolling Stones off the top of the charts. While some might fear that Lou Pearlman is now poised to turn the Archies into, say, R-Town, at least one of the original band members says he supports the idea. "I know Lou Pearlman...and I think they'll do a real good job," says Ron Dante, the L.A.-based singer-producer who originally sang Archies hits like "Sugar, Sugar" and "Jingle Jangle" during the band's cartoon heyday. "It was a good job for me at the time, and I couldn't be happier that people connected with it," Dante says. "Archie, Reggie, Betty, Veronica and Jughead are good role models, and the country could use a little good, positive pop music right now with all the terrible things we've been through." For his part, Pearlman says he plans to ask Dante to be involved with the creation of this latest Archies incarnation. It's only appropriate considering one of the new group's first priorities will be recording a remake of 1969's chart-topper "Sugar, Sugar." As for Josie and the Pussycats, Pearlman says he also will be searching for girls to lead that band. The timing isn't exactly perfect: Last year's movie version of the comic book scored decent reviews for its pop-punk soundtrack, but the film starring Rachael Leigh Cook and Tara Reid bombed at the box office. Pearlman, however, says this latest version of the Pussycats will be more "Spice Girls-meets-Britney Spears." "I think [the makers of the film] were more interested in making a movie, and we're more interested in making a show and music that will last," he says. - --from http://entertainment.msn.com/news/eonline/011802_archies.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: mweber@library.berkeley.edu (Matthew Weber) Subject: [loud-fans] Introduction >Name: Matthew Lee Weber > >Born: July 14, 1963 > >Residing in: Berkeley, CA (previously: Ann Arbor, MI, Dayton, OH, >Kettering, OH, St. Paris, OH, Dayton, OH) > >Job: Curatorial Assistant, UC Berkeley Music Library > >Married: nope, but have come close > >Children: none that I'm aware of. My dog, Max (a Malamute/Shepherd mix, 5 >years old) is the closest thing to a kid that I have. > >Facial hair: not in the past 3 years > >Vision: I wear glasses occasionally while driving at night and seeing >movies in the theater (to correct for slight nearsightedness). > >Met Janet: Yes, at the monumental conclusion of the 1998 tour in San Francisco. > >Loud-fans met: Steve Holtebeck, Canadian postmodernist >Paul-whose-last-name-I-can't-remember, ana morales, aaron mandel, Jeff >Norman, Bradley Skaught, Sarah Gordon, Joe Mallon, Sue Trowbridge, Tim >Walters, Rog Winston, doug mayo-wells, Ron Swan, Elizabeth Setler, Brianna >Bradley, John Cooper, Jo Brown, Janet & Andy Ingraham-Dwyer, Holly Kruse, >and I think a few others whose names I don't recall. > >How I became a Loud Fan: Picked up my copy of THE ENIGMA VARIATIONS in 86 >or 87. Bought an LP of THE BIG SHOT CHRONICLES in 1990, and the rest was >history...I was lucky to have bought my copy of LN just before Enigma went >belly-up. > >Favorite LF/GT elpee: depends on the day and the mood, really, but LOLITA >NATION will always have a special place in my heart >Favorite LF/GT song: these days, I frighten my dog by walking around the >apartment bellowing (in my best 16th-century baritone) "Years of Wrong >Impressions" Sine qua non: Philip Pullman. Momus. Current 93 (and David Tibet's publishing efforts). THE SOPRANOS. James Ellroy. Nurse With Wound. Krautrock. Arthur Machen. Vox Populi (http://bolo.berkeley.edu/~cwinant/voxpop). WITHNAIL AND I. The Starry Session at the Starry Plough on Sunday nights. DVDs. Tudor polyphony. Maker's Mark. Friends, family, and loved ones, old, new, and to come; the ones who make it all worthwhile. Matt So freedom for everybody and in everything, limited only by equal freedom for others; which does *not* mean--it is almost ridiculous to have to point this out--that we recognize and wish to respect the "freedom" to exploit, to oppress, to command, which is oppression and certainly not freedom. Enrico Malatesta, _La Questione Social_, November 25, 1899 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:09:03 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Magnetic Beatles >I read an article about the I AM SAM soundtrack that said the filmmakers had >scored the entire film with Beatles songs, figuring that it would be easy >to get the rights to use the originals. Ha ha ha! Since they didn't want >to start from scratch and find all new music, they rounded up a bunch of >artists to cover the Beatles tracks they'd selected, with the stipulation >that they had to sound as much like the originals as possible -- and most >importantly, they could not change the tempo at all. A rumor I'd heard, though Sharples was quite skeptical of same: George Harrison, shortly before his death, put the definitive kibosh on using Beatle originals. If that's true-and I admittedly can't vouch for the story--who out there can chime in first with the most likely reason? >Now that Sharples is back, I look forward to reading his inevitable >denunciation of Mag Fields' live show ;) From what I understand, our foremost Beatleologist unsubbed again because school started today. Weep weep weep weep (sob sob and beat the dog), Andy I was reading Taylor Branch's work as a comparison for the last couple of days, and there's a blurb from Garry Wills that I liked: "already, in this chronicle, there is the material of Iliad after Iliad." Homer knew that it's boring to achieve importance simply because you score some easy victory. What's interesting, in life and literature, is overcoming extraordinary adversity, time and time again. It's the nearness to disaster that we find compellingand King was sitting on top of it his entire life. There's his Oedipal relationship with his father (sorry, I'm going a little nuts with the Greek thing), his melancholia as a child (yes, I thought the early suicide attempts were very weird), his obsession with his own death, and his strong urge to destroy everything he had built with his reckless personal behavior, even after being warned that the feds were listening in. You mention the sex, so I might as well offer my one thought on the matter, though I'd much rather not deal with it at all. But I find it strikingeven pathologicalthat he was not content with the occasional affair or twobut seemed to be shacking up all the time, often several times in one nightas if he wanted to get caught. What's with that? - --Ted Widmer on Martin Luther King Jr., from http://slate.msn.com/?id=2060914&entry=2061037 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:32:09 From: "Brian Block" Subject: [loud-fans] 24 through 46 A brief note to put myself firmly in the pro-Magnetic Fields camp. Yes, 69 LOVE SONGS is by far, even disc for disc, my favorite of their work (in retrospect i'd put in 2nd on my Best of 1999 List). No, i don't much like the 6ths. For single discs i'd go with HOLIDAY or with, if you're going to condense 69LS, the second of the three discs. The disc track selections were picked at random anyway; i think disc 2, with "Long-Forgotten Fairytale", "Papa Was a Rodeo", "Roses", "When My Boy Walks Down the Street", "I Shatter", and the controversial "Love is Like Jazz" (which i refuse to consider a piss-take, especially the lyrics), catches the most of the set's range. Such is my vote. Tabulate, move on. cheers, -Brian _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #30 ******************************