From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #12 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, January 12 2002 Volume 02 : Number 012 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 [Michael Mitton ] Re: [loud-fans] observation [Matthew Weber ] Re: [loud-fans] observation [Tim_Walters@digidesign.com] RE: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 [Dana L Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] observation [USER BLOCKED - ACCESS DENIED Subject: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 I'm surprised we haven't done this thread yet for the year, so I'll start. Here's the short list: 1. Ghost World 2. Yi-Yi 3. Amelie 4. Hedwig and the Angry Inch 5. Brigham City 6. The Man Who Wasn't There 7. The Fellowship of the Ring 8. Crazy / Beautiful 9. Startup.com 10. Mulholland Drive And here's the long list: http://www.filmatters.com/other/topten2001.html - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:26:58 -0500 From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 I didn't see enough new movies to have a top 10 list. Loved Ghost World, liked Amelie, and will probably go to my grave annoyed that AI (my favorite movie of the year, despite its flaws) flopped. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:05:32 -0800 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: [loud-fans] San Francisco this weekend? Anything exciting going on musically in SF/Oakland this weekend? I am heading down between Saturday and Tuesday, and will be staying with a friend who might be in the mood for a concert as well. - -- "I'm polite when crumbling, and I'm nice when I want something" The Loud Family ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:50:37 -0800 From: "Brandon J. Carder" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] San Francisco this weekend? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Zwirn > Anything exciting going on musically in SF/Oakland this weekend? I am > heading down between Saturday and Tuesday, and will be staying with a friend > who might be in the mood for a concert as well. If you're into indie folk/ alt country you could do worse than catching Calexico and Mark Olson at the Great American Music Hall in SF. Calexico make border-country pastiche indie rock with great instrumentation. Mark Olson you may know from his work with the Jayhawks and his wife, Victoria Williams in all those Creek Dipper things. Besides, The Great American Music Hall, if you've never been, is one of my favorite venues for anyone- a beautiful and classic theater unashamed of its past life as a rollicking bordello. Somehow that atmosphere has been maintained. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:54:57 -0800 From: "Brandon J. Carder" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] San Francisco this weekend? again Also, if you're still in town tuesday you can catch Her Space Holiday at Bottom of the Hill. Cool. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Zwirn To: Loudfans Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [loud-fans] San Francisco this weekend? > Anything exciting going on musically in SF/Oakland this weekend? I am > heading down between Saturday and Tuesday, and will be staying with a friend > who might be in the mood for a concert as well. > > > -- > "I'm polite when crumbling, > and I'm nice when I want something" > > The Loud Family ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:28:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] observation Saw LOTR a few nights back, and still find myself wondering: why did Sauron look like Frank Zappa impersonating Rick Wakeman? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing.... ::As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world. __Neal Stephenson, SNOW CRASH__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:32:12 -0800 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] observation At 04:28 PM 1/11/02 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Saw LOTR a few nights back, and still find myself wondering: > >why did Sauron look like Frank Zappa impersonating Rick Wakeman? You mean Saruman? Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley Put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. _The Holy Bible: The Old Testament_, The Second Book of Moses, Called Exodus, chapter 3, verse 5 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:56:02 -0800 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] observation >why did [Saruman] look like Frank Zappa impersonating Rick Wakeman? Because Rick Wakeman looks like Saruman trying not to look like Frank Zappa. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:21:28 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 Sure, I'll play. 1. Yi Yi 2. The Royal Tenenbaums 3. Waking Life 4. Amelie 5. Spy Kids 6. Ghost World 7. Happy Accidents 8. Bread and Tulips 9. Jump Tomorrow 10. The Fellowship of the Ring Runners-up: Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back; Monsters, Inc.; The Princess and the Warrior; Session 9; Together. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:47:21 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 1. THE PRICE OF MILK 2. AMORES PERROS 3. GHOST WORLD 4. YI YI 5. JACKPOT 6. BARTLEBY 7. THE PLEDGE 8. LOST AND DELIRIOUS 9. THINGS YOU CAN TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT HER 10. TAPE I should point out, again, that 2001 was the most amazing year for film I can bring to mind in a lifetime of filmgoing. So many very-good-to-great pics, and almost anything on the "bubbling under" list below could stand with at least the lower five of my Top Ten above. A few caveats: THE PRICE OF MILK has, alas, no VHS or DVD release yet, though the male lead, Karl Urban, will be seen in the next two LORD OF THE RINGS pics, and someone might yet hear a cash register in that. JACKPOT and BARTLEBY I caught at the Seattle International Film Festival. The former never, so far as I know, played theaters, though it is available for home viewing. The latter hasn't even been that lucky. Tsk tsk to whoever. Bubbling Under (no particular order): TABOO, CHUNHYANG, KEEP THE RIVER ON YOUR RIGHT, MADE, MEMENTO, THE KING IS ALIVE, CURE, GAUDI AFTERNOON, THE YOUNG AND THE DEAD, HEDWIG AND THE ANGRY INCH, THOMAS IN LOVE, OUR SONG, ENLIGHTENMENT GUARANTEED, EUREKA, GEORGE WASHINGTON, TOGETHER, SHADOW OF THE VAMPIRE, BULLY Still need to see: WAKING LIFE, BEFORE NIGHT FALLS, THE GLEANERS & I, THE ROYAL TENENBAUMS Worst Film Of The Year: SCARY MOVIE 2 Most Overrated Film Of The Year: AMELIE Would like to know more about: BRIGHAM CITY (but thanks Michael, I did read what you wrote), SESSION 9 (which I do know was vaguely hyped as "the next BLAIR WITCH") Just came back from ORANGE COUNTY (shoulda rented THE LAST AMERICAN VIRGIN again instead), Andy "It was only one life. What is one life in the affairs of a state?" - --Benito Mussolini, after running over a small child in his car; as reported by General Smedley D. Butler, 1931 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:25:02 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 1. AMELIE 2. WATERBOYS 3. CHICKEN RICE WAR 4. THE ROYAL TENENBAUMS 5. GHOST WORLD 6. ON THEIR KNEES 7. HARRY POTTER 8. PICTURE CLAIRE 9. QUITTING 10. (tie) THE AMERICAN ASTRONAUT/JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS ______________ Prosciutto is ham. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 00:26:09 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Top Films of 2001 >Just came back from ORANGE COUNTY (shoulda rented THE LAST AMERICAN >VIRGIN >again instead), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, I just came back from that too, but I liked it. It wasn't perfect, but had quite a few laughs and a few nice twists on teen movie tropes. Not as weird/interesting as "Chuck and Buck" but probably funnier. The drug-addled brother pretty much steals the show. I have to admit that the movie lacked both length and depth, which made the $19 price tag seem a bit steep, but the best parts were pretty good. - --dana "The Eldridge Cleaver interview is one of the most timely messages Playboy has published. Eldridge lays it out so clearly. It is a revolution, nothing less. Eldridge says what that majority of Americans born since 1948 feels so deeply -- that the up-tight, pleasure hating, menopausal system can no longer be taken seriously by those who want to be free, to feel good, to get high, to make it a love trip. In effect, Eldridge says: "We just won't play your game anymore, Mr. White; and your laws and your game rules are as irrelevant as your gadgets and your repressive fears. Eldridge, in his words and in his life style, is doing what the Beatles and the Moodies (uneducated kids from the ghettos of Liverpool and Manchester) are doing in their own rhythms -- spelling out the new order. They tell us: (1) that you learn more in jail than you do in college; (2) that you learn more about how the system really works in the ghetto than you do in the suburbs; (3) that you learn more from getting high with your friends than you do from books and television; (4) that sexual confidence and tender, masculine love for woman is the blood-tissue foundation of any valid political movement -- it's always the impotent who start the repression; and (5) that the basic struggle is not white-down-on-black but old-down-on-young. Which is to say, past-down-on-future. God bless you, Eldridge. Stay alive, stay free. Keep in touch. We'll meet again." Timothy Leary Playboy letters section, March 1969 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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