From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V2 #11 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, January 11 2002 Volume 02 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Will the senator from Positive Force House yield the floor? [] Re: [loud-fans] Will the senator from Positive Force House yield the floor? [dmw ] [loud-fans] Tihista / Thou [Michael Mitton ] [loud-fans] R.I.P. Esquivel [Sue Trowbridge ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:10:57 -0500 From: dana-boy@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] Will the senator from Positive Force House yield the floor? An article in the NY Times today is too vague to be very interesting, but there's a cute shot of Ian MacKaye speaking on the future of music. http://nytimes.com/2002/01/10/arts/music/10CONF.html My favorite line from the story goes, "Musicians, members of Congress, recording-company executives, Internet entrepreneurs, copyright lawyers, union representatives and computer experts gathered to wrangle over what boiled down to a basic question: How will musicians make a living in the Internet age, preferably without a day job?" I look forward to congressional hearings that will determine how poets, performance artists, colorful-lanyard makers, Grateful Dead-inspired jewlery designers, Loud-list curmudgeons, and really nice people everywhere can all make a living in the Internet age, preferably without a day job. - --dana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:58:05 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Will the senator from Positive Force House yield the floor? On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 dana-boy@juno.com wrote: > I look forward to congressional hearings that will determine how poets, > performance artists, colorful-lanyard makers, Grateful Dead-inspired > jewlery designers, Loud-list curmudgeons, and really nice people > everywhere can all make a living in the Internet age, preferably without > a day job. i'm nasty enough these days to count as a curmugeon, yeah? so: leap before looking seems like a good start. - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:42:50 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V2 #8 > >> 8. Vengaboys - Uncle John From Jamaica > >> 16. Baha Men - Who Let the Dogs Out As a point of interest, these two acts have a join CD out, the soundtrack to a film called LITTLE VAMPIRE. Don't think it's from Jamacia though, Andy "My one absinthe experience was that small amounts did nothing, while a 12-ounce glass made the dude with roller skates and a tonsure sit in the corner for three hours by himself." - --Aaron Mandel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:13:06 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] NYC LoudListers The HMV at 42nd & 8th is having one of their clearance sales where remaindered overpriced imports are now kind of affordable. At the very least, there are lots of copies (at $11.99) of the 2-CD "Buttercups & Rainbows: The Songs of Macaulay & Macleod," with 50 tracks that include a previously unreleased (and nicely emotive) take of Jefferson doing "Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)." And in general shopping, there's a great bargain with those Holly & The Italian reissues. The graphics are bootleg-quality reproductions of the original artwork, but the sound is vastly improved--and that's said as someone who rarely cares about sound quality. And the superior Holly Beth Vincent solo album--strangely titled "Holly & The Italians" (or vice versa, as the Wounded Bird label has it)--appends the 7" version of "Tell That Girl To Shut Up," so you don't even need to waste your money on the first album. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:20:06 -0500 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holly >And the superior Holly Beth >Vincent solo album--strangely titled "Holly & The Italians" (or vice versa, >as the Wounded Bird label has it)--appends the 7" version of "Tell That >Girl >To Shut Up," so you don't even need to waste your money on the first album. > Nothing against the solo album, which is unique and often quite exciting, but I have to defend one of my all-time faves: THE RIGHT TO BE ITALIAN is the one that's a must-own. It's got at least four or five songs that are better than "Tell That Girl To Shut Up" and represents to me the best chance punk-related music had to truly be a mainstream item before, er, Nirvana or Green Day. Why that album wasn't as big a hit as, say, Blondie's PARALLEL LINES will baffle me forever. Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:24:35 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Mitton Subject: [loud-fans] Tihista / Thou I just bought both Kevin Tihista and Thou "Put Us In Tune" off half.com for under a buck each (plus shipping). There are more copies available at this price for any other interested cheap skates like me. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:30:16 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holly In a message dated 1/10/02 1:21:29 PM, amilenski@hotmail.com writes: << Nothing against the solo album, which is unique and often quite exciting, but I have to defend one of my all-time faves: THE RIGHT TO BE ITALIAN is the one that's a must-own. >> I really didn't mean to put "The Right To Be Italian" on the defense, although it's certainly a different kind of punkish album. And anyone who likes the record will be very happy with the bonus tracks. I was also surprised to find myself preferring the Holly Beth Vincent solo album, since I only remembered the song "Uptown" as being particularly memorable. However, her cover of "For What It's Worth"--also included as an extended remix--is still far worse than anything on the debut. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:37:49 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holly At 04:20 PM 1/10/02 -0500, Aaron Milenski wrote: >Nothing against the solo album, which is unique and often quite exciting, >but I have to defend one of my all-time faves: THE RIGHT TO BE ITALIAN is >the one that's a must-own. It's got at least four or five songs that are >better than "Tell That Girl To Shut Up" and represents to me the best chance >punk-related music had to truly be a mainstream item before, er, Nirvana or >Green Day. Why that album wasn't as big a hit as, say, Blondie's PARALLEL >LINES will baffle me forever. Apples and oranges, really. The first album is pop-punk, and the second is this much artsier, murkier thing with a lot of violin and keyboards. Personally, I've always thought that the second album was more consistent, but I think they're both excellent. I've always thought "Honalu" was one of the great lost songs of its era. My only (minor) complaint with the reissues is that HOLLY AND THE ITALIANS follows the UK release (including the first-album retread "Only Boy" instead of the far superior "Dangerously" and with a track order that doesn't flow as well), but that's what programmable CD players are for. JRT's right, though -- the Epic release of HOLLY AND THE ITALIANS, for some reason, sounded like it was mixed and mastered at the bottom of the Grand Canyon (the UK vinyl is a *little* better), and the CD sounds remarkably better. Stewart ______________ Prosciutto is ham. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:16:09 -0500 (EST) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: [loud-fans] R.I.P. Esquivel I'm surprised that Dave Thomas' passing was noted on this list, but I had to find out about Esquivel's death at the end of Fresh Air today: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1451713/20020109/story.jhtml?headlines=true Juan Garcia Esquivel, the '60s lounge music composer who became a belated hero for a community of '90s post-angst alternative irony buffs, died at his home in Jiutepac, Morelos, Mexico on January 3. He was 83. The musician had been bedridden with a back injury for nearly 10 years. Three months ago he suffered a stroke that left him unable to speak and caused paralysis in one-half of his body. He had a second stroke on December 30 that led to his death. Esquivel was born on January 20, 1918 in Tampico, Tamaulipas, Mexico. In his youth he was a popular pianist and bandleader in his homeland, and was a regular attraction on Mexican radio and television. He studied briefly at the Juilliard School in New York and scored and starred in two Mexican movies, "Cabaret Tragico" and "Las Locuras del Rock 'n' Roll," and at age 29 was lured back to the U.S. by RCA Victor Records, which signed him to a recording career. At the time, record labels were only beginning to release stereo albums, and Esquivel fully explored the medium, integrating panning and sonic separation into his winsome melodies. Between 1957 and 1967 Esquivel wrote and released 11 studio albums of effervescent, easy-listening pop flecked with strange galactic sound effects, quirky noises and instrumentation that was exotic for the time (theremin, early Fender-Rhodes keyboards, Chinese bells and bass accordion). His most played composition, however, is "Universal Emblem," a three-second-long flurry of sound that has for decades accompanied the Universal Studios logo at the end of hundreds of television shows. In the '80s Esquivel returned to Mexico, where he worked on music for a children's TV show. In 1994, in response to a renewed underground interest in kitschy martini-pop, Bar/None Records issued the Esquivel compilation Space Age Bachelor Pad Music. Other collections followed, including Music From a Sparkling Planet (1995) and Merry Xmas From the Space-Age Bachelor Pad (1996). Esquivel's whimsical melodies were also featured in numerous films, including "The Big Lebowski," "Four Rooms" and "Beavis and Butt-Head Do America." "The Simpsons" creator Matt Groening has called Esquivel "the great unsung genius of space age pop." Although Esquivel enjoyed a career revival in the '90s, a broken hip and aggravated spinal injury left him bedridden and unable to walk. But while he was musically incapacitated, he retained his Austin Powers-like taste for indulgence. In May 2001, at the age of 82, he married his 25-year-old home health care worker, Carina Osario, his sixth wife. After his death he was cremated and his ashes were sent home to his wife. He is survived by his son Mario Eddi Garcia Servin. - -Jon Wiederhorn ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V2 #11 ******************************