From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #360 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, December 31 2001 Volume 01 : Number 360 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Simon & Garfunkel question [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] yet another dumb-ass technical question [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Je] Re: [loud-fans] yet another dumb-ass technical question [Stewart Mason Subject: [loud-fans] Simon & Garfunkel question I received _The Columbia Studio Recordings: 1964-1970_ as a Christmas gift. I hadn't listened to S&G for a while, and I'd sort of forgotten how good their best work could be. However, the studio version of "For Emily, Whenever I May Find Her" is completely and utterly smoked by the live version on the 1972 greatest hits package (same is true, to a lesser extent, of the quicker live version of "Homeward Bound": the original's tempo sounds leaden by comparison). Also, would it have killed them to include "My Little Town" as a bonus track at the end? The '72 hits package contains those two live songs but not "My Little Town." (Understandably, since it hadn't been recorded at that time.) The '99 hits collection has the latter song...but I don't know about the two live versions. Does that '99 collection have the same live version of "For Emily..." as the '72 collection? (And then there's the _Old Friends_ box set, w/a handful of tracks unavailable elsewhere. No doubt, a few years from now, yet another compilation will be released...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ps: if you're a fan of Belle & Sebastian, or of Kings of Convenience, and somehow don't know Simon & Garfunkel...yeesh, you're missing a huge swath of those bands' musical history. Same w/Elliott Smith, to a lesser extent. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:31:49 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Happiness music In a message dated 12/29/01 9:29:23 PM, Vivebonpop@aol.com writes: << That Solondz film, "Happiness"...the title song Michael Stipe sings with Rain Phoenix...is it available anywhere? >> Here's the potentially-helpful site of the guy who wrote the theme that Stipe sings over the end credits. Fans of The Pursuit of Happiness may also be interested, since the guy isn't unlike Moe Berg... http://eytanmirsky.home.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:37:45 EST From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] turn me on, Loudfan As with music, I think the best films come from the independents and from other countries. I don't have much of a way of knowing what to watch, unless someone tells me to check out something, as I don't have cable television, and The Independent Film Channel. All I can go on are suggestions and trailers from films I've already rented or borrowed. I was wanting some suggestions of favorite films of Loudfans from the past decade or so. However, I don't care for violent films at all, so that rules out Quentin Tarantino, and David Lynch freaks me out (he's brilliant, but too intense for younger viewers like me). Solondz can make me squirm a bit as well, (which I suppose means he's good) but he has a twisted sense of humor that I love, and I like his take on suffering and his exposure of the desperation of the human condition. For some reason his work reminds me of Flannery O' Connor. I really like romantic comedies as a genre the best. There are a couple of types of films that come out of indie land that kind of annoy me, so maybe I should make those known as well. There's the type with the angst filled chain smoking protagonist with a loaded gun kept off "safety" driving the aging American sedan, and something stolen is usually involved, and he's either on the way to or from the scene of the crime. I think these movies must be made in collusion with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Then there are all those Gen X bed hopping movies, (though I can deal with these better than the other type) and the artwork for them reminds me of some derivation of the artwork and font for "Trainspotting." So, now that I've given all that as a filter, what do you think I'd care for? There has to be something left. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:46:33 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Simon & Garfunkel question People who need less box sets in their lives should seek out the S&G "Tales From New York" 2-CD set that came out in the UK in '99. The 40 songs are a lot more useful than what's offered on the bulky "Old Friends" box, and it's still looking kind of preferable--or at least equal--to "The Columbia Studio Recordings" box. The collection was sold by Sony's TV marketing branch, but maybe some import sites carry it. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Dec 2001 12:23:12 -0800 From: michael@zwirn.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Happiness music On Sun, 30 December 2001, JRT456@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/29/01 9:29:23 PM, Vivebonpop@aol.com writes: > > << That Solondz film, "Happiness"...the title song Michael Stipe sings with > Rain > Phoenix...is it available anywhere? >> As at least one or two loudfans are aware, it's very possible to record the audio direct from the DVD. It was on my 2000 mix tape. Michael, from Vancouver - -------------------------------------- Michael J. Zwirn, Environmental Policy Analyst michael@zwirn.com Home: 503/232-8919 Cell: 503/887-9800 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:02:58 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: [loud-fans] Chat? I'm at irc.DAL.net #loudfans for about another hour, should you care to stop by. Still hoping to hear "Cuba Si, Nixon No," Andy "Dear Senior Citizen, Millions of Senior Citizens, because of the change of the laws regarding Medicaid, are losing millions of dollars not knowing about the change. Once you are aware of the change, you can do something about it. We have been helping Senior Citizens for 15 years protect their assets. If you have $5000.00, $10,000.00 or $20,000.00 in a savings account, cd's etc., if you use the nursing home as means of recovery from a operation, sickness, etc., you have a good chance of losing it all. At the same time, the govt. has a little known document that will protect those assets.." - --from some spam I got yesterday (I'll be 33 and 1/3rd on New Year's Day) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:03:25 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] yet another dumb-ass technical question Okay, really - this time I mean it - I'm thinking (again) of buying a CD burner, and I've decided that it makes sense to connect my second tape deck and turntable to the computer rather than to my stereo system, since I doubt I'll be dubbing tape-to-tape much (and in any event, that second deck is a two-tape deck) and as it is I seldom listen to LPs except when dubbing from them. But it occurs to me that there might be some degree of magnetic interference from the computer to the tape deck (or verse visa): first, am I correct, or is it more a matter of the phlogiston interfering with the luminiferous ether? and second: if I am correct, what can I do about it, short of placing the tape machine & turntable in Connecticut and the computer in California and buying really really long patch cords? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, hoping he's premiered the word "phlogiston" on Loudfans J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::The more you drive, the less intelligent you are:: __Miller, in REPO MAN__ np: Sparklehorse _It's a Wonderful Life_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:33:53 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] yet another dumb-ass technical question At 07:03 PM 12/30/01 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >But it occurs to me that there might be some degree of magnetic >interference from the computer to the tape deck (or verse visa): first, am >I correct, or is it more a matter of the phlogiston interfering with the >luminiferous ether? The latter. There is all of 1.5" clearance between the front of my HP Pavilion and the back of my turntable and/or tape deck (depending on which I'm using), and I have never had any kind of feedback/noise/interference issue. S ______________ Prosciutto is ham. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #360 *******************************