From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #289 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, November 2 2001 Volume 01 : Number 289 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Halloween Traditions ["O Geier" ] [loud-fans] tv tunes, etc. (ns) [Dana L Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] tv tunes, etc. (ns) [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Because of Winn-Dixie ["Brandon J. Carder" ] [loud-fans] Yeah! The dB's! ["Larry Tucker" ] RE: [loud-fans] Yeah! The dB's! ["Larry Tucker" ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Because of Winn-Dixie ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? [Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com] Re: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? ["John Swartzentruber" ] Re: [loud-fans] wacky driving [Michael Bowen ] [loud-fans] celery! [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] celery! ["amy lewis" ] Re: [loud-fans] celery! [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? [Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Halloween Traditions FYI-The first trick or treater arrived during the last chorus of 'Next Time Round'. Anybody notice the bass line on the chorus is the same as 'How to Be Dumb', which is identical to 'Stand' by REM? What does it mean, Number 6?' 'It means what it is' - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Matthew Weber To: "me" , Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Halloween Traditions Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:53:24 -0800 At 01:49 PM 10/31/01 -0800, me wrote: > > BjC, wondering if anyone will bother worrying about anthrax candy from >the > > house blairing Tokyo Storm Warning > > > >if you'd rather blare something else, our CBS affiliate (KCBS in Seattle), >and most likely yours, is showing the San Francisco (Opera?) version of >Sweeny Todd at 9 tonight. not sure if that's more or less scary, but it's >a >great show. i believe it's the one Joe and Sue saw a while back. some big >names in it - can't remember who. > >brianna George Hearn in the title role and Patti LuPone as Mrs Lovett, IIRC. Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee . . . for we be brethren. _The Holy Bible: The Old Testament_, The First Book of Moses, Called Genesis, chapter 13, verse 8 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:08:02 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] tv tunes, etc. (ns) Tonight on Conan O'Brien, the Strokes will attempt to set our nation's hearts aflutter. Tape the show and sell it on eBay to a hapless Brit. On the Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn, the Butthole Surfers will make an appearance. Finally, I'd like to propose that Mark be allowed to resume posting about personal topics, as opposed to posting book reports about plucky young girls and the dogs who teach them to laugh again. Can we have a vote? - --dana np: Luscious Jackson/"In Search of Manny" ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:12:53 EST From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tv tunes, etc. (ns) In a message dated 11/1/01 6:17:20 AM, dana-boy@juno.com writes: << Finally, I'd like to propose that Mark be allowed to resume posting about personal topics, as opposed to posting book reports about plucky young girls and the dogs who teach them to laugh again. >> Dude...! Your intolerant attitude towards children's literature threatens the highly-anticipated flood of really insightful posts here about the big-screen adaptation of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:36:30 -0800 From: "Brandon J. Carder" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Because of Winn-Dixie Oh my god, for a moment here I thought my Reading Rainbow newsgroup got forwarded through loud-fans. Few! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: mass not conserving in the old way Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: [loud-fans] Because of Winn-Dixie > In my course work I've happened upon some really enjoyable books penned for a > pre-teen audience that are enjoyable for those of any age. It ain't all just > Harry Potter (aka "mini" Steve Jobs) and the adventures of Mary-Kate and > Ashley (thank the Lord). There is some amazing childrens' literature out > there that is written so well that an adult could sit down in an evening and > really enjoy some of these books. I wanted to recommend a book I came across > titled_Because of Winn-Dixie_, by Kate DiCamillo. It came out last year, and > is a Newberry honor book, which, if you don't know, (doubtful on this list) > is a prestigious award in kiddie lit circles. The story is written in first > person from the point of view of ten-year-old India Opal Buloni, whom I would > love seeing brought to life on the big screen. DiCamillo is masterful in her > craft where you actually believe you're reading a story narrated by a > ten-year-old. The only other book that comes to mind of this caliber would > be _Shiloh_ , part of a trilogy of books by famed children's author Phyllis > Reynolds Naylor (whose grandson Nathan and I were friends who went to school > together...six degrees of Kevin Bacon). Like Shiloh, BOWD is a "dog story," > but not cliched and artificial in a Lassie and Timmy sort of way. It's > enjoyable reading with a definite southern flavor and very believable. I > plan on incorporating this book into my curriculum when I begin teaching. > Inside flap: > > When ten-year-old India Opal Buloni moves to Naomi, Flordia, with her > father, she doesn't know what to expect--least of all, that she'll adopt > Winn-Dixie, a dog she names after the supermarket where they meet. > > Right away, Opal knows she can tell Winn-Dixie anything--like the fact > that lately she's been thinking a lot about her mother, who left when Opal > was three. And that her father, the preacher, won't talk about her mother at > all. And that she's lonely. But with such an unusually friendly dog at her > side, Opal soon finds herself making more than a few unusual friends. And > ultimately, Opal and the preacher realize--with a little help from > Winn-Dixie, of course--that while they've both tasted a bit of melancholy in > their lives, they still have a whole lot to be thankful for. > > This is uplifting and fun reading without coming off as being fake or > syrupy sweet gooey. If you have young ones in your life, they should enjoy > this, as I'm sure it would come across well in a story time type setting. > > Cheers, thanks a lot > > Mark > > np Circulatory System ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:08:34 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] suddenly beth (ns) I'm not personally a fan (though I have nothing against her either) but I know that some will want to tune in to WFMU for: Wednesday, November 7, 2-3pm BETH SORRENTINO She's the honey-voiced singer, pianist and songwriter for the now defunct trio Suddenly, Tammy! More recently, Sorrentino's been performing original songs solo at downtown New York venues. Following up her acclaimed appearance on WFMU this past May, she returns to present a set of new songs, as well as a few old favorites, before her appearance later that evening at the Living Room (corner of Stanton and Allen). On Irwin's hour of "Gender Bias." at wfmu.org. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:58:51 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] Yeah! The dB's! All I can say is, it's about time! http://www.explodedview.tv/news/82501.html - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:08:13 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yeah! The dB's! > All I can say is, it's about time! > > http://www.explodedview.tv/news/82501.html All I can say is a) what kind of dorks "announce" that they're *going* to be doing a web site, and b) if you're going to "announce" that you're going to be doing a web site that will be ready in early October, and by the beginning of November you've managed neither to produce the promised web site nor update your own pointless blurb with a corrected ETA, you better hope your livelihood doesn't rely on anybody holding a high opinion of your attention to detail... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:13:16 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Yeah! The dB's! |> All I can say is, it's about time! |> |> http://www.explodedview.tv/news/82501.html | |All I can say is a) what kind of dorks "announce" that they're |*going* to be |doing a web site, and b) if you're going to "announce" that |you're going to |be doing a web site that will be ready in early October, and by the |beginning of November you've managed neither to produce the |promised web |site nor update your own pointless blurb with a corrected ETA, |you better |hope your livelihood doesn't rely on anybody holding a high |opinion of your |attention to detail... Yeah I agree. I just hope that it finally happens for such a long deserving band. This is all they've got thus far. http://www.explodedview.tv/thedbs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:34:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Yeah! The dB's! - --- glenn mcdonald wrote: > All I can say is a) what kind of dorks "announce" that they're *going* to be > doing a web site, and b) if you're going to "announce" that you're going to > be doing a web site that will be ready in early October, and by the > beginning of November you've managed neither to produce the promised web > site nor update your own pointless blurb with a corrected ETA, you better > hope your livelihood doesn't rely on anybody holding a high opinion of your > attention to detail... I believe they're pulling what should be known as a "Microsoft". - - Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:43:52 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Because of Winn-Dixie >> , and is a Newberry honor book, > >Uh, make that Newbery. I always get that wrong, because of the town of >Newberry, SC nearby. 'Ay mate, I'm hip to the Newbery Award, though I would have made the same spelling mistake you did. We've surely done children's books onlist before, but my favorites included John Christopher, Daniel Pinkwater, Ellen Raskin, William Sleator, the TRICK series by Scott Corbett (though his horror books impressively chilled me), the horror anthologies edited by Helen Hoke, MISS OSBORNE-THE-MOP by Wilson Gage, ESCAPE TO WITCH MOUNTAIN and THE FORGOTTEN DOOR by Alexander Key, THE HOUSE WITH A CLOCK IN ITS WALLS and THE FIGURE IN THE SHADOWS by John Bellairs (illustrations by Edward Gorey, of course), and A WRINKLE IN TIME by Madeline L'Engle (I saw the family as black, oddly enough). Can't say whether all that stuff would hold up to my adult sensibility, but I still read Pinkwater and Christopher for pleasure occasionally. My friend Sam recently remarked that Robert Cormier (whom I've never read) was one of his favorite authors of all time, regardless of genre or intended audience. Prefer the Leonard Prize For Literature, myself, Andy Cake Cook Up 'Iron Chef' Spoof For 'Love You Madly' Clip Video features Cake drummer, keyboardist facing off over pumpkin dish. Never before has Emeril Lagasse been so challenged by Cake. That's Cake the band, whose tasty new video provides a little competition for Emeril's cooking show. Quirky frontman John McCrea, who was behind the lens on the comical "Short Skirt/Long Jacket" video, recently brought his band to the New School of Cooking in Culver City, California, to direct the clip for "Love You Madly," off Comfort Eagle (2001). The video spoofs the cult Japanese cooking show "Iron Chef" and features Cake drummer Pete McNeal and trumpeter/keyboardist Vince Di Fiore facing off over a pumpkin dish. Cake's Columbia Records publicist said McNeal and Di Fiore really cooked the dishes and were not acting when they watched carefully as judges critiqued their finished products. Only one of the judges, however, is an actual food expert: "The Frugal Gourmet" Jeff Smith. The others were actress Phyllis Diller and "Super Freak" singer Rick James. Cake shot the video while passing through Los Angeles on their current tour with Beulah, which plays Wednesday in St. Louis and wraps November 19 in Norfolk, Virginia. The Sacramento, California, rockers will perform "Love You Madly," an aching love song with a disco groove, on the "Late Show With David Letterman" on November 29.  Corey Moss [ Thurs., November 1, 2001 10:00 AM EST ] (from http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?id=1450464 ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:01:39 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Halloween Traditions >> George Hearn in the title role and Patti LuPone as Mrs Lovett, IIRC. > >It's a terrific cast and a terrific show, if you like Grand Guingol & >gothic musicals. bonus: Neil Patrick Harris as Tobias! An earlier staging of the musical played years ago on PBS as part of the "Great Performances" series. That one may have been filmed at the Uris Theater in NYC, where "Sweeney" premiered; it features Angela Lansbury, the original Mrs. Lovett, but sadly, not Len Cariou, the original Sweeney. Hearn had taken over the role by that point, and I wasn't too impressed with his performance--a bit remote and shallowly ruminating. Cariou is on the original cast recording, though, which I highly recommend. Have a little priest, Andy "As it is writ: to kill a cop is a beautiful thing, but to do the police in different voices is far more blessed and far more potent magic still." - --Nick Tosches, from WHERE DEAD VOICES GATHER ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:16:30 -0800 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Halloween Traditions At 11:01 AM 11/1/01 -0800, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > >> George Hearn in the title role and Patti LuPone as Mrs Lovett, IIRC. > > > >It's a terrific cast and a terrific show, if you like Grand Guingol & > >gothic musicals. bonus: Neil Patrick Harris as Tobias! > > >An earlier staging of the musical played years ago on PBS as part of the >"Great Performances" series. That one may have been filmed at the Uris >Theater in NYC, where "Sweeney" premiered; it features Angela Lansbury, the >original Mrs. Lovett, but sadly, not Len Cariou, the original Sweeney. >Hearn had taken over the role by that point, and I wasn't too impressed with >his performance--a bit remote and shallowly ruminating. Cariou is on the >original cast recording, though, which I highly recommend. I second the rec for Len Cariou. Len actually *sings* the role, whereas Hearn in some of the climactic moments opts for a Musical Comedy Shrieking-in-Rhythm which I find very annoying. ymmv, Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley Abram dwelled in the land of Canaan, and Lot dwelled in the cities of the plain, and pitched his tent toward Sodom. _The Holy Bible: The Old Testament_, The First Book of Moses, Called Genesis, chapter 13, verse 12 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:53:32 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tv tunes, etc. (ns) On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 JRT456@aol.com wrote: > Dude...! Your intolerant attitude towards children's literature > threatens the highly-anticipated flood of really insightful posts here > about the big-screen adaptation of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's > Stone." The hell with that - I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for _The Lord of the Rings_! - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, still no luck in finding software that would allow me to create a soundfile sounding like Elmer Fudd reciting "one ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them." J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:23:13 -0800 From: "me" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] wacky driving as for pulling over for emergency vehicles - this has got to be one of my biggest driving pet peeves. they're trying to save someone, for crying out loud! pull the f*@k over! there was a very well publicized incident on the SF/Oakland bay bridge where someone, i believe the driver of a big rig, would not pull over for a fire vehicle. KITS 105.3's chopper pilot decided this was unnacceptable, and dropped down next to the guy (he was at a low point in the cables, making this possible) and started screaming at him. the pilot got in big big trouble, but i might have done the same thing. and i LOVE the idea of civilian-revocable licenses. i've always thought that everyone should be given suction cup darts and a propulsion device when they prove to be a good drvier, say, no accidents or violations in 5 years. these darts are to be fired at negligent or imcompetent or dangerous drivers' cars. when you get 5 darts, you lose your license. (each dart must have some sort of electronic i.d. so the authorities can tell where it's from, etc., in order to contact the shooter for an explanation. removal of darts is a felony.) brianna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:15:18 -0500 From: Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com Subject: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? Dana and I want to know who this quote can be attributed to: "It is better to be silent, and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. " attributed to someone named Silvan Engel. None of the sites gave any further information about or any more quotes from Silvan Engel. Curiously, -julianne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:39:40 -0500 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:15:18 -0500, Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com wrote: >Dana and I want to know who this quote can be attributed to: > "It is better to be silent, and be thought a fool, than to speak and >remove all doubt. " >attributed to someone named Silvan Engel. None of the sites gave any further >information about or any more quotes from Silvan Engel. I have no idea, but here's a site that asks the same question (with other links): http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/engel.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:49:28 -0800 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? This quote has also been attributed to Mark Twain, Samuel Johnson, George Eliot, Confucius, and that all-time leader of any pithy quote, Abraham Lincoln. Here's what Ask Yahoo (http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010115.html) has to say on the subject: >Dear Yahoo! > >Who said, "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool >than to open it and remove all doubt"? > >John >Greenville, South Carolina > > >Dear John: > >This was a tougher nut to crack than we originally thought. Not only >could we not find a definite answer to your question, we couldn't >even confirm the exact wording of the quote. > >Searches on "better to keep your mouth closed" and "better to remain >silent" (using the quotation marks in both cases) turned up numerous >web pages, all offering different versions of the phrase. Some >sources quoted the saying as "It's far better...", some substituted >the words "stupid," "ignorant," or "simpleton" for the word "fool," >and still others twisted the saying into an almost unrecognizable >form. > >A page titled Mark Twain and the Mutating Quote attributed at least >four variations of the same phrase to the eminently quotable Twain, >explaining that it was a case of "split personality" that accounted >for the variations, rather than a rash of misquotes. > >Other pages suggested a number of other authors for the saying, >including: Abraham Lincoln, George Eliot, Groucho Marx, Albert >Einstein, and a mysterious figure named Silvan Engel. > >In an attempt to solve this proverbial puzzle, we paid a visit to >Bartleby.com, home to the online version of Familiar Quotations. >Unfortunately, after searching on a number of possible keywords and >potential authors, we couldn't find a single reference to this quote. > >All the confusion and disagreement surrounding both the author and >the wording of this saying led us to suspect that it may be a simple >maxim, not attributable to any single person -- which is not to >question its wisdom. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Editor's Note: Thanks to all of our scholarly and well-read readers >who wrote in to suggest Proverbs 17:28 as a possible source of this >quote. As for Silvan Engel, well, read the "Who is Silvan Engel?" page at . "Was there really such a person, or is this all just a demonstration of the way a completely fictional attribution worms its way into public consciousness?" asks the page's author. I know my answer. I also found the following related thoughts in Bartlett's: It is wise to be silent when occasion requires, and better than to speak, though never so well. - Plutarch: Morals: On the training of children Closed lips hurt no one, speaking may. - Cato the Censor: book I, distich 12 Be silent and safe--silence never betrays you. - John Boyle O'Reilly: The Rainbow's Treasure John P.S. Yes, I occasionally like quick easy questions like this. On 11/1/01, Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com wrote: >Dana and I want to know who this quote can be attributed to: > "It is better to be silent, and be thought a fool, than to speak and >remove all doubt. " >attributed to someone named Silvan Engel. None of the sites gave any further >information about or any more quotes from Silvan Engel. >Curiously, > -julianne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:05:30 -0600 From: "Keegstra, Russell" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? >I also found the following related thoughts in Bartlett's: > >It is wise to be silent when occasion requires, and better than to >speak, though never so well. > - Plutarch: Morals: On the training of children > >Closed lips hurt no one, speaking may. > - Cato the Censor: book I, distich 12 > >Be silent and safe--silence never betrays you. > - John Boyle O'Reilly: The Rainbow's Treasure ...or the Spanish proverb which translates as "bugs do not enter the closed mouth". np: Rheostatics, Blue Hysteria - while waiting for the new one, winging its way from HMV. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:54:23 -0500 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] wacky driving At 02:23 PM 10/31/2001 -0800, me wrote: >as for pulling over for emergency vehicles - this has got to be one of my >biggest driving pet peeves. they're trying to save someone, for crying out >loud! You've obviously never seen the Ogden Rescue Squad make their lunchtime run to Thompson's Restaurant. I used to wonder why there was an accident on US 17 every day at noon. MB http://www.savemonroe.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:16:43 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: [loud-fans] celery! I was just wondering what everyone on LoudFans thinks of celery. I don't like it when it's cooked and is mixed in with other foods, but it's okay raw. Especially if I dip it in cheese sauce or ranch dressing or something. I think I should eat more of it, for health reasons, but dipping it in something kind of defeats that purpose. Sometimes I will just eat a raw stalk with lots of salt on it! When nothing on it, raw celery is just kinda tasteless, like water. When I go eat Thai food (which I love), I ask if the dish I want to order has celery in it. If it does, I will either order something else or will ask them to hold the celery. Do you think Scott Miller likes celery? Sometimes I think the song Baby Hard To Be Around is about celery. Think about it. How come rhubarb looks like purple celery, but doesn't really taste like it? Beer is pretty good. I like it much better than celery. I'm just curious about the whole celery thing. Pls reply. Thanks! Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:02:55 -0500 From: "amy lewis" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] celery! Rog gushes: > I'm just curious about the whole celery thing. Pls reply. Thanks! Me, I'm more interested in the effects of celery on loose elastic. http://www.lileks.com/institute/frahm/index.html amy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 20:15:45 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] celery! At Thursday 11/1/2001 10:02 PM -0500, amy lewis wrote: >Rog gushes: > > > I'm just curious about the whole celery thing. Pls reply. Thanks! > >Me, I'm more interested in the effects of celery on loose elastic. >http://www.lileks.com/institute/frahm/index.html Bravo, Amy! You have taken my attempt at a perfect Zen LoudFans posting and thrust it into a whole new dimension that I never dreamed existed. Sometimes you're the swan and sometimes you're the celery. Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 20:56:55 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? John Cooper wrote: > This quote has also been attributed to Mark Twain, Samuel Johnson, > George Eliot, Confucius, and that all-time leader of any pithy quote, > Abraham Lincoln. I used that as my senior quote in high school, without citing a source because I couldn't find out who said it originally, so some of my classmates mistakenly assumed it was an original quote by me. Four years later, my brother graduated from the same high school, and used that same quote, attributing it to me. Since then, I've also taken credit for "writing about music is like dancing about architecture", "reality is an illusion created by a lack of alcohol", and many other quotes were I couldn't find the original source. To veer just slightly on-topic for a moment, is anyone going to Scott's show tomorrow night in L.A.? (he's playing the Scramarama fest tomorrow, 11/2, at 10 PM. Details: http://www.scrammagazine.com/scramarama.html). I was thinking of driving down for it, but probably won't now, because I'm flying to London next week, and can't justify a mini trip before a major one. Anyway, I hope someone can make it to the show, and report back with the proceedings. Scott Brosius just hit a home run with two outs in the bottom of the ninth, to tie the score 2-2. Is it okay for us to stop our sympathy for the city of New York, and start cheering against the Yankees again? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 02:52:41 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Who is Sylvan Engel??? Steve Holtebeck wrote: > > I was thinking of driving down for it, but probably won't now, because > I'm flying to London next week, and can't justify a mini trip before a > major one. Isn't good music enough justification? > Is it okay for us to stop our sympathy for > the city of New York, and start cheering against the Yankees again? Absolutely. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #289 *******************************