From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #285 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, October 30 2001 Volume 01 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Movie advisory [Dan Schmidt ] Re: [loud-fans] Mulholland Drive [Roger Winston ] [loud-fans] John Fahey [mick ] [loud-fans] Folk fanciers ["O Geier" ] Re: [loud-fans] Movie advisory ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] holiday driving reminder from brianna ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] holiday driving [Roger Winston ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Oct 2001 10:54:03 -0500 From: Dan Schmidt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movie advisory "glenn mcdonald" writes: | Go see _Waking Life_. Try to avoid reading any detailed description | of it. It's by Richard Linklater, who did _Slacker_. It's animated, | sort of, but not in any way you've ever seen before. That's | enough. Go now. I have never seen so many people walk out of a movie in the middle. At the end, the woman to my right said to her boyfriend, 'That's the last time I let you pick the movie!' I loved it. - -- http://www.dfan.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:10:06 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Mulholland Drive At Monday 10/29/2001 01:21 AM -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Roger Winston wrote: > > > I loved Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet. However, I hated Lost Highway. From > > the descriptions I've read of Mullholland Dr, it sounds to me more like LH > > than TP or BV. So, am I likely to appreciate MD? > >RW: > >If you loved TP and BV and hated LH, your impression of MD is likely >dependent upon your reaction to WH, EM, EH, and DU (but not SS). This can >be expressed more concisely: IF +(TP+BV) -(LH) & -(WH), THEN +(MD). IF >+(EH), +/-(MD); IF +(EM) ~-(MD). & IF DU, SHEESH. > >:JN I've never seen EH (I know, I know...), EM or SS. I thought WH was okay, but not in league with TP or BV. I have mixed feelings about DU, depending on my mood. Does that help? >(probably not, me guesseth) Okay, but you know I'll probably go see it anyway. Maybe even today. Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:46:33 -0500 From: mick Subject: [loud-fans] John Fahey >From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > >John Fahey "The Sun Is Gonna Shine on My Back Door": An interesting >example of the way finger-picked guitar playing, with its bluegrass and >ragtime rhythmic roots, can be transformed into something else entirely by >(in this case) Fahey's rather odd selection of chords and passing tones. >I'm surprised, too, at the closeness of the recording - every little bit >of fret buzz and the occasional ill-fretted note is crystal clear. He has >so many recordings - which one's this from? This is from Fahey's first album, BLIND JOE DEATH, reissued on cd as THE LEGEND OF BLIND JOE DEATH. The album has an interesting history, which is spelled out in the lengthy liners by Glenn Jones. Fahey actually recorded the album 3 times (1959, 1964, and 1967). The LEGEND cd compiles the '64 and '67 versions. Based on your description of the sound, you have the '67 version of this cut. This is also the version used on the 2-cd Fahey anthology on Rhino. Actually, I'm using this post to put in a good word for Fahey's recently reissued VOL.6: DAYS HAVE GONE BY, an album whose emotional depth continues to pull me in. mick (digest guy, hope i'm not repeating anything) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:02:33 +0000 From: "O Geier" Subject: [loud-fans] Folk fanciers Heads Up AMERICAN ROOTS MUSIC American Roots Music is a new four hour documentary series airing nationally on PBS starting October 29 at 10 pm and for the next three Mondays. The series is a major effort to survey the entire field of American Roots music from blues to bluegrass, Cajun to country, cowboy to folk, and much more. The series takes a historic survey of the major styles and leading figures Expect to see and hear music from artists including: Bob Dylan, the Carter Family, Jimmie Rodgers, B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Son House, Woody Guthrie, Lead Belly, Bill Monroe, Hank Williams, Clifton Chenier, Flaco Jimenez, R. Carlos Nakai and many, many more. The title track for the series was performed by Ricky Skaggs and music legends including Earl Scruggs, James Cotton and Marc Savoy in a historic recording. The project is a collaborative effort between the NEA, Smithsonian Institution, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the Country Music Foundation, the Library of Congress, and Ginger Group Productions. The Producer/Director is Jim Brown whose previous documentaries have included, Woody Guthrie: Hard Traveling, We Shall Overcome, Weavers: What a Time, A Vision Shared:Leadbelly among others. There is a large coffee table book with stunning graphics that was just published to accompany the series. American Roots Music, edited by Jim Brown, Holly George-Warren, ansd Robert Santelli (Abrams Books/Rolling Stone Press). It is available on Amazon 'What does it mean, Number 6?' 'It means what it is' - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:46:57 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movie advisory >Go see _Waking Life_. Try to avoid reading any detailed description of it. >It's by Richard Linklater, who did _Slacker_. It's animated, sort of, but >not in any way you've ever seen before. That's enough. Go now. Haven't yet seen WAKING LIFE, but Mr. Linklater, whom I consider one of America's most interesting directors (SLACKER, DAZED AND CONFUSED, BEFORE SUNRISE, SUBURBIA, and--though I still haven't seen it, and no one seems to like it--THE NEWTON BOYS), actually has two films coming out this season, and I strongly recommend the other one, a life-action, shot-on-video exercise called TAPE. Adapted by Stephen Belber from his own stage play, TAPE is a three-character drama set entirely inside a motel room, featuring Ethan Hawke (in a role you'll either cherish or despise), Robert Sean Leonard (don't think I'd ever seen him before), and (mmm) Uma Thurman. Pic has a few spoilers, which I won't spoil for you, but it works most effectively as a humanized dissertation on morality, memory, and power. I'm a simple man, Andy "I finally got around to reading this. Sounds creepy!! I certainly don't want my car taking photos of me..." - --Sue Trowbridge on http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/10/24/the_pod/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:06:42 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holiday driving reminder from brianna >at roughly 00:30 saturday morning, ed and i witnessed a horrible automobile >accident. we were among the very first people on the scene, and i ended up >being the contact with 911 dispatch until the fire company arrived. i'm going >to leave out most details of the wreck, because this is not meant to be >sensationalistic, just to make a point. Yes, I received e-mail last Saturday saying the boyfriend of one of my best friends wrecked out over in Ohio; he struck a deer, then a concrete divider, and finally flipped over into some mud. What, if anything, he could have done to avoid all this remains unclear, but right now he's in serious but stable condition with "some head injury, some nerve damage in his left eye, many bruises and abrasions, a broken asatabular bone in his hip and a swollen knee." So although I don't drive, your story carried great resonance. Let's be careful out there, Andy "In Halberstadt, Germany, in September, an organist kicked off a performance of the late, radical composer John Cages 'Organ 2/ASLSP' (an acronym somehow derived from as slow as possible), which was written for 20 minutes, but thanks to technology and imagination, will be performed over a period lasting 639 years. The first six months will be devoted to creating an organs first note. The purpose of the performance is to contrast the piece with the frenzied pace of modern society." - --from http://www.ent-today.com/9-21/news-of-the-weird.htm ; see also http://www.redludwig.com/news/archive/090601.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:03:43 EST From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movie advisory In a message dated 10/29/01 12:46:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, glenn@furia.com writes: > It's animated, sort of, but > not in any way you've ever seen before A friend told me that each frame of film was hand painted. I want to see it. Mark, hawking Madonna pap-smears ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:25:52 EST From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holiday driving In a message dated 10/29/01 12:14:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, Vivebonpop writes: > and have logged about a half a million delivery miles Actually my Mallory Keaton-like math skills should land me a lucrative position filling purchase orders for a government contractor. I sat down and calculated it and it's probably more like 300,000 delivery miles, but that's still a lot of time on the road, and I've seen it all. If my post annoyed you, then, good. Hopefully you'll remember it next time you order food when the weather sucks, and some poor slob with a liberal arts degree and no health insurance shows up at your door delivering a piece of his own death so he can pay back his student loans. Always tip your driver. Always. Some drivers do bad things to the food (like making it cold, or worse) of those they get regulary stiffed or low tips from. I would never do such a thing, but I also report all my tips, and nobody else does that either. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:41:24 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holiday driving At 11:25 PM 10/29/01 EST, Vivebonpop@aol.com wrote: >If my post annoyed you, then, good. Hopefully you'll remember it next time >you order food when the weather sucks, and some poor slob with a liberal arts >degree and no health insurance shows up at your door delivering a piece of >his own death so he can pay back his student loans. What if what we found so annoying was the way someone could be shallow, self-centered, unthinking, rude, and insensitive enough to take Brianna's horrific experience of watching two people die right in front of her and turn it into an All About Me whine about how mean people don't pay him lots of money to schlep their pizzas? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:25:20 -0700 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] holiday driving At Monday 10/29/2001 11:25 PM -0500, Vivebonpop@aol.com wrote: >If my post annoyed you, then, good. You still just don't get it, do ya Mark? Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #285 *******************************