From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #259 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, October 9 2001 Volume 01 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] The new Breen [Richard Gagnon ] [loud-fans] Scary photo ["O Geier" ] Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo ["Pete O." ] Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Beautiful South news [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo [triggercut ] [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism [dmw ] [loud-fans] audio weenie [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism ["glenn mcdonald" Subject: [loud-fans] The new Breen >Mark wrote: >Excuse me for making light of pot. It's quite well known that it is >carcinogenic and can impair you and get you into situations that'll kill you >just like alcohol can. > >Not that I indulge in the stuff myself, but it's still a lot safer >than your low-carb, high-protein diet, frankly. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:36:21 +0000 From: "O Geier" Subject: [loud-fans] Scary photo Somebody sent this to me. I don't know if it's fake or not. He says it was salvaged from the wreckage. 'What does it mean, Number 6?' 'It means what it is' [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of wtc.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:47:17 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo Smoe sensibly deletes these things, but I assume this is the shot of the guy on the observation deck with the plane approaching behind him. It is very fake, but there's a funny set of follow-up fake photos circulating with that same guy appearing in the foreground of a bunch of other disasters and historical events. If you just got the first email today, you should be getting the second one Wednesday or Thursday. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Geier" To: ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 10:36 am Subject: [loud-fans] Scary photo > Somebody sent this to me. I don't know if it's fake or not. He says it > was salvaged from the wreckage. > > 'What does it mean, Number 6?' 'It means what it is' > > [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of wtc.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 07:46:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo - --- O Geier wrote: > Somebody sent this to me. I don't know if it's fake or not. He says it > was salvaged from the wreckage. > > 'What does it mean, Number 6?' 'It means what it is' > > [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of wtc.jpg] Wow! That is scary! NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:37:41 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo >Smoe sensibly deletes these things, but I assume this is the shot of the guy >on the observation deck with the plane approaching behind him. It is very >fake, but there's a funny set of follow-up fake photos circulating with that >same guy appearing in the foreground of a bunch of other disasters and >historical events. If you just got the first email today, you should be >getting the second one Wednesday or Thursday. As usual, snopes.com has the inside poop: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/crash.htm Click a link at the bottom for variations on the theme. But where's the pic of him telling Leonard Maltin to give LASERBLAST two-and-a-half stars, Andy Quotation of the day: Author - Seneca http://www.logos.it/bio/seneca.html English - solitude is to the soul as food is to the body Italian - la solitudine h per lo spirito cir che il cibo h per il corpo Spanish - la soledad es para el alma lo que el alimento es para el cuerpo French - la solitude est ` l'esprit ce que la nourriture est au corps Portuguese - a solidco i para a alma aquilo que o alimento i para o corpo Brazilian Portuguese - a solidco i para o espmrito aquilo que o alimento i para o corpo German - Einsamkeit ist f|r die Seele, was Nahrung f|r den Kvrper ist Hungarian - a magany az a lileknek, ami az itel a testnek Finnish - yksindisyys on sielulle samaa kuin ruoka ruumiille Catalan - solitud is a l4esperit, alls que el menjar is al css Croatian - samoca je za duh ono to je hrana za tijelo Dutch - eenzaamheid is voor het gemoed als voedsel voor het lichaam Emiliano Romagnolo - ster d'in part par si l'h per e giodizi quel ca la pagnota l'h per e' corp Furlan - stb di bessol al h pal spirt chel cal h il mangjb pal cuarp Latin - solitudo animo quod cibus corpori est Polish - samotnosc dla duszy jest jak pokarm dla ciala Romanian - singuratatea este pentru spirit ceea ce hrana este pentru corp Slovak - osamelost je pre duu to, co je jedlo pre telo Venetian - la solitudine la xe par l'anima quel che el magnare el xe par el corpo Sicilian - 'a solitudini h p' 'u spiritu chiddu ca 'u manciari h p' 'u corpu Flemish - eenzaamheid is voor het gemoed als voedsel voor het lichaam Calabrese - a sulitudine h ppi ll'anima chiddu cu manciari h ppu cuarpu Ferrarese - la solitudine l'h par l'animo quel ch'al magnar l'h par al corp Bolognese - pr al spnrit, al sthr da par si l i cunpbgn al magnhr pr al ctrp - --from my Verba Volant mailing for October 4, 2001 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:54:08 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beautiful South news I sent this yesterday, but it didn't post. It occurred to me how similar subjectwise (a spotty relationship with a hyper-masculine character) the songs "Me and the Farmer" by the Housemartins and "Me and the Major" by Belle and Sebastian are to one another. I'm wondering if the former was what created the latter? Stuart Murdoch was heavily influenced by the Smiths and Felt. (In one interview he says that the Smiths are his favorite band, though it is commonly believed to be Felt) Why not the Housemartins? (Though when people called the Housemartins the "happy Smiths" it made me cringe...what bs...throw in a gay singer and a 4/4 beat and suddenly it's "This Charming Man" part 2...um, yeah) Grinning myself to death, Mark np The Housemartins "London 0 Hull 4" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:02:45 -0500 From: triggercut Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Scary photo Considering that I've seen many daily newspapers in the US actually devote space to debunking this piece of junk, what's really scary to me is that anyone would have thought it was real in the first place. Andrew Hamlin wrote: > > >Smoe sensibly deletes these things, but I assume this is the shot of the > guy > >on the observation deck with the plane approaching behind him. It is very > >fake, but there's a funny set of follow-up fake photos circulating with > that > >same guy appearing in the foreground of a bunch of other disasters and > >historical events. If you just got the first email today, you should be > >getting the second one Wednesday or Thursday. > > As usual, snopes.com has the inside poop: > > http://www.snopes.com/rumors/crash.htm > > Click a link at the bottom for variations on the theme. > > But where's the pic of him telling Leonard Maltin to give LASERBLAST > two-and-a-half stars, > > Andy > > Quotation of the day: > > Author - Seneca > http://www.logos.it/bio/seneca.html > > English - solitude is to the soul as food is to the body > Italian - la solitudine h per lo spirito cir che il cibo h per il corpo > Spanish - la soledad es para el alma lo que el alimento es para el cuerpo > French - la solitude est ` l'esprit ce que la nourriture est au corps > Portuguese - a solidco i para a alma aquilo que o alimento i para o corpo > Brazilian Portuguese - a solidco i para o espmrito aquilo que o alimento i > para o corpo > German - Einsamkeit ist f|r die Seele, was Nahrung f|r den Kvrper ist > Hungarian - a magany az a lileknek, ami az itel a testnek > Finnish - yksindisyys on sielulle samaa kuin ruoka ruumiille > Catalan - solitud is a l4esperit, alls que el menjar is al css > Croatian - samoca je za duh ono ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism in 12th grade i'm pretty sure my favorite band was still triumph, although i was getting regular doses of harder stuff, like the dreadful first few albums on metal blade, ufo and of course, cirith ungol. triumph was my first concert, in 11th grade, the night before i kicked ass on the PSAT. also first contact high; coincidence?. foghat opened; i spent their whole set trying to figure out when they were playing "slow ride" and when they were playing something else -- it wasn't easy. obscurantism: well, what counts as "pop" culture? i was amused the other day when i accidentally clicked on the "rock" link in allmusic.com, and the first thumbnail that popped up (in alternative/indie, the first sub genre) was cypress/afoot. i reloaded to see if it would happen again and got 2 steps from the middle ages instead. heh. - -- d. np triumph _allied forces_. wow, this is horrible! the drummer's pretty good, though. - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:57:16 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism In a message dated 10/8/01 3:49:00 PM, dmw@radix.net writes of a list of '80s college-rock faves: << which reminds me, the absence of any A&M-era Swimming Pool Q's from said list means there's nothing I really wet my pants over....>> "Blue Tomorrow" was made available on CD in Germany, but that was it for the format...although the Q's Jeff Calder is anticipating his own reissues of the A&M albums next year. In the meantime, enjoy the band on DVD in the fine film "Brain Damage." They're doing the best song off "Blue Tomorrow." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:17:11 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism On Mon, 8 Oct 2001 JRT456@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/8/01 3:49:00 PM, dmw@radix.net writes of a list of '80s > college-rock faves: > > << which reminds me, the > absence of any A&M-era Swimming Pool Q's from said list means there's > nothing I really wet my pants over....>> > > "Blue Tomorrow" was made available on CD in Germany, but that was it for the > format...although the Q's Jeff Calder is anticipating his own reissues of the > A&M albums next year. In the meantime, enjoy the band on DVD in the fine film > "Brain Damage." They're doing the best song off "Blue Tomorrow." hey, thanks! I had guessed that the a&m stuff might be tied up in negotiations, and like the alleged french/german cd of Marti Jones' _Unsophisticated Time_, the imports have eluded me for years. The reish of _The Deep End_ was so stuffed with extra goodies that i figured that was all that Calder and crew could get the rights to -- esp. since i have it on pretty good authority that Jones & Dixon have been trying to get rights to _Unsophisticated Time_ for a while... okay then, how about Translator? (yes i know there are best-ofs...) - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] audio weenie On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Dana L Paoli wrote: > was actually recorded in 1976. Which makes me wonder if there's such a > thing as 39-bit remastering or T-Base Pro Linear '46' Phasing. Because, > based on the results displayed here, 39-bit remastering and T-Base Pro > Linear '46' Phasing are capable of making my microcassette recording of the mastering realm is very esoteric and i don't know that much about it, and "T-Base Pro Linear '46' Phasing" sounds *almost* credible, tho seriously fishy -- for one thing, phasing is not something you usually use much of in mastering, since a lot of the engineers job is to keep things IN phase for the most part -- but i'd bet hefty sums that "39-bit remastering" is purest b-s. 20-bit, 24-bit, 40-bit, 48-bit, yes, but an odd number wordlength? never. even CYBERs, perhaps one of the weirdest computer architectures of all time, could only get as weird as a 60-bit word. by the way, you probably just sold a copy of the cd to me. especially if i really am just about to get paid by my current snsulting gig. "the check's in the mail," my friend says. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:27:08 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism In a message dated 10/8/01 7:18:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dmw@radix.net writes: > okay then, how about Translator? (yes i know there are best-ofs...) > > I was really lucky back in '99 when I lived in Charlotte (NC) I went into a record store and picked up a couple of Translator albums mint for 2 dollars each. In the same search I found a copy of Big Shot for 2 bucks and bought it for my friend who worked there to convert him (he LOVED it). I remember telling him, "This is my favorite album. Take this and call me in the morning." he-he Is it just me or does the singer for Translator sound like Terry Hall of the Specials a little bit? Mark, whose favorite Q's record is "Blue Tomorrow" as well. (only partly clear) You gotta love Anne Richmond Boston, right down to her dinosaur earrings in the cover art...a real cutie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:37:35 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism In a message dated 10/9/01 12:31:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Vivebonpop@aol.com writes: > I was really lucky back in '99 when I lived in Charlotte (NC) I went into a > record store and picked up a couple of Translator albums mint for 2 dollars > each I don't have a CD burner, but I would be more than happy to tape (remember those?) my Translator vinyl if anyone would like. They are definitely Loudfan material. M ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:51:47 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] highschool obscurantism > in 12th grade i'm pretty sure my favorite band was still triumph There were people who liked Triumph better than Rush? That's crazy. But OK, I'll get _Allied Forces_ out and listen to it again. Hey, what's so bad about this? "Magic Power" is still one of the all-time great stupid power-of-radio songs, and the rest of it sounds perfectly respectable. Plant/Lee-wannabee vocals, boomy early-Eighties production, silly guitar histrionics, lots of power chords. It's not System of a Down or anything, but it still gets a big "If you can't find your copy of _Permanent Waves_" thumbs-up from me. > A&M-era Swimming Pool Q's As I think was mentioned here at the time, the *first* Swimming Pool Qs album was recently re-released with a pile of bonus tracks. Listening to it reminded me a) how much better _Blue Tomorrow_ was, and b) how much better Guadalcanal Diary always were, anyway. glenn ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #259 *******************************