From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #256 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, October 6 2001 Volume 01 : Number 256 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] I am such a geek [Larry Brantley ] Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols [Cardinal007@aol.com] [loud-fans] 12th grade tunage [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] 12th grade tunage [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols [Sue Trowbridge ] [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [loud-fans] druids [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [John Cooper ] [loud-fans] Ween Remaster (ns) [Dana L Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] druids [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] druids [Roger Winston ] [loud-fans] POPSCURANTISM ["Brandon J. Carder" ] [loud-fans] re: popscurantism ["Brandon J. Carder" ] Re: [loud-fans] druids [steve ] Re: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] druids [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism [Michael Zwirn ] Re: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] Beautiful South news [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette [JRT456@aol.com] RE: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols ["Larry Tucker" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols >Hey everybody, > Did the Sex Pistols actually play the music on >their albums, or did session musicians do it? >Curious, because, historically, the Sex Pistols might >be on every critics' list of worst players of all time, >and they have said that Sid Vicious could't actually >play bass at all. Let's be fair here. Sid Vicious is the only person who couldn't play. Steve Jones and Paul Cook were and are solid musicians. Glen Matlock is even better, and anyone who's heard the original SPUNK demos can tell what an excellent bass player he was (is.) There's no question that Jones and Cook played on the BOLLOCKS album. There's also reasonably good evidence that Sid Vicious did not. The question is who really did play the bass. It's often been stated that Glen Matlock was called back in to play, but if that's the case, why would he have played the basic pattens on BOLLOCKS rather than the more elaborate ones he'd been playing all along? My own best guess is that Steve Jones played the bass on BOLLOCKS. > How about the live albums from the time? Are they >terrible, or worthwhile? I've seen that on one, they >cover the Monkees' Steppin' Stone, which might be worth >purchase price alone if it isn't too bad. Most of them suffer from horrible mixes and sounds, and any with Vicious also suffer from lousy playing. A few of the Matlock ones aren't bad, but there are so many lousy Pistols live albusm out there that it's really hard to find the few decent ones. Dee Dee Ramone has said, by the way, that after END OF THE CENTURY neither he nor Johnny played on any Ramones albums (though I believe Johnny did play on the last few). I'm sure END OF THE CENTURY had some studio musicians as well. Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 11:04:59 -0400 From: Larry Brantley Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I am such a geek Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Okay, so I'm watching the reruns of _Buffy_'s first season on FX, and the > one I taped this afternoon (the sorta Wm. Gibson-ripoff episode - not > exactly among the best, I'd say) at one point featured a supposed > screenshot including Buffy's birthdate - Oct. something 1980. Then, two > seconds later, the same purported screenshot was in the next shot - w/her > birthdate listed as May 1979. And a few minutes after that, an ad for the > new episodes on UPN featured her now-useless gravestone - on which her > birthdate is listed as 1981. > > The confusion between the two shots in the old ep. can almost make sense > in that episode's context: the demon uploaded into the computer system is > into confusion, among other things - but what gives, eh? > Maybe the monks who made Dawn did it: "We're giving her a bratty little sister and altering her memories - the least we could do is take a year or two off her age." > "Get a life!" > Between 1st season 5 days a week on FX, 3rd season weekends on FOX, the two hour 6th season premiere on UPN, plus Angel on WB - all of which are new to me, since I started watching regularly in season 4 - my life lately is work, eat, sleep and watch Buffy. That, and trying to keep track of which channel to program the VCR to record. Larry B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 11:22:58 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols At 10:42 PM 10/4/2001 -0400, dmw wrote: >On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 zkk46@ttacs.ttu.edu wrote: > > > and they have said that Sid Vicious could't actually > > play bass at all. > >Lydon has denied that repeatedly. > In fact, I remember reading an interview with Tina Weymouth where she said that Sid was the one who taught her how to play with a pick - before that she used the two-finger method. MB np: Paula Carino - "Paleoclimatolagy", courtesy of mp3.com http://www.savemonroe.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:05:50 EDT From: Cardinal007@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols On the "who played on 'Bollocks'" debate: In a message dated 10/5/01 1:59:48 AM, flamingo@rt66.com writes: >It depends on who's talking and how cranky they're feeling, but I think >there's fairly general agreement that Steve Jones played the bass on the >records after Glen Matlock left -- listen to Sid-era live stuff and it's >clear that indeed, he could only barely play the bass. I fall into the "Steve Jones" camp from all the things I've heard. I urge anyone who doubts Cook/Jones to listen to the singles from The Professionals; they can play.... Hell, get the long-player "I Didn't See It Coming" (Virgin), available as an inexpensive import on CDNow. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:18:40 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] 12th grade tunage In a message dated 10/5/01 1:09:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mlmitton@phoenix.Princeton.EDU writes: > Ah yes, Kitchens of Distinction. "Strange Free World" came out my senior > year of high school, and it was probably the tape I listened to most that > year...not that I had many to choose from. This is a good idea for a thread. What albums we listened to in our senior year of h.s. You had good taste, by the way, in my opinion. Flashback, 1984-85: (Scott tunes were almost two more years off for me) I mostly listened to General Public's "All the Rage" lp. My concert event of senior year was seeing them live, opening for Hall and Oates, (why God, why?) along with, okay, Dead or Alive's "Youthquake," as well as Josie Cotton's "Convertible Music" (already a couple of years old at that point...my special order of the year...along with the now defunct Fred Schneider and the Shake Society lp) and mix cassettes of 45s I bought (A-ha, Nena, Duran Duran 12"s, etc.) I also listened to the ska album "Dance Craze" excessively, a compilation of bands. Just before graduation I bought the new R.E.M. tape, "Fables of the Reconstruction" or "Reconstruction of the Fables," depending on your preference, (the blue ink on the white cassette wore off after a short time) and New Order's "Low-Life" on cassette. My mom bought me the Cars' "Heartbeat City" and Wham's "Make it Big" as a gift that school year. Wake me up, before you dump Andrew Ridgely and go solo, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:52:44 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 12th grade tunage Oh, this is amusing to add: For my seventeenth birthday (first week of 12th grade) I bought The Psychedelic Furs' "Mirror Moves" lp with my birthday money. I was playing it too loud one afternoon, and my mom was in a mood (she was recovering from a car accident, and just a tad cranky from the meds), and she screamed, "Turn that #$%* off!!!" She hobbled into my room (with crutches), ripped it off the turntable (God, I hate that sound of a needle scratching a record), hobbled out, and made it into a frisbee flying it into the basement from the kitchen. My mouth was, needless to say, open. You either like Richard Butler or you don't. :O) M p.s. She felt bad for this later and bought me a new one ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:51:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols - --- Michael Bowen wrote: > > np: Paula Carino - "Paleoclimatolagy", courtesy of mp3.com Speaking of Paula...in case anyone's interested in ordering her CD AQUACADE, it's available now at http://www.125records.com - -- NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 15:59:57 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette On my campaign website I have a link to the county Republican Party site. I just received an e-mail from them asking me to remove the link. Do I have to? After all, theirs is a public site. And yes, I can back up every charge I've made on there. MB http://www.savemonroe.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:20:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Michael Bowen wrote: > Do I have to? After all, theirs is a public site. I think I've heard about a few preposterous cases where people were forbidden to link to various things. The only one that stuck in my head, though, was something involving the DeCSS code, where it was ruled illegal for some site to link to software that violates the (inane) provisions of the DMCA about working around some kinds of security measures. So, I'm not a lawyer, but I can't think of any reason why the owners of a given website should be allowed to decide who links to their site. It's not even like you're saying "The Mayor, who by the way lives at 1902 Woodland Lane and doesn't lock his doors, is a despot" -- you're directing people to the Republicans' web site, which presumably exists solely for PR purposes. That said, I clicked all over the savemonroe.org website and didn't even see a link to the Republicans. Tell them if they don't want people to see their website, they should turn off the webserver. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:26:42 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette In a message dated 10/5/01 1:08:03 PM, mbowen@frontiernet.net writes: << On my campaign website I have a link to the county Republican Party site. I just received an e-mail from them asking me to remove the link. Do I have to? After all, theirs is a public site. >> I'm more concerned that the local Republicans asked you to remove a link, and your first thought was to run for advice from an Internet pop list. Has your mother given you permission to run for office? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:53:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 JRT456@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/01 1:08:03 PM, mbowen@frontiernet.net writes: > > << On my campaign website I have a link to the county Republican Party site. > I > just received an e-mail from them asking me to remove the link. Do I have to? > After all, theirs is a public site. >> > > I'm more concerned that the local Republicans asked you to remove a link, and > your first thought was to run for advice from an Internet pop list. Has your > mother given you permission to run for office? For all we know, Michael has sent five faxes, made twenty phone calls, and written several e-mails to every attorney he knows. He asked us, true - but does that preclude his having asked anyone else? Me no lawyer - but if their site's publicly accessible, what possible claim could they have against anyone linking to it? A "link" is just an URL and some coding that saves folks the need to type - unless the party thinks its URL is proprietary info, I think they're grossly misunderstanding the nature of the web. Now what was that link again, so I can harass and annoy them more on your behalf? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ np: Julian Cope _An Audience with the Cope_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:57:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Tveite Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Michael Bowen wrote: > On my campaign website I have a link to the county Republican Party > site. I just received an e-mail from them asking me to remove the > link. > > Do I have to? After all, theirs is a public site. Your subject probably answers this question: it would be good etiquette to honor their wishes. If you don't care about that, you probably don't "have to" remove the link, unless they get a court order or something. I'm not exactly sure why they are upset about it, however. What do they have to lose by allowing people to compare your site with theirs? I mean, people are already on your site, so they have nothing to lose if people take the option to check theirs out. JR, as full and rich as your life must be, where would you be without posts like this to tee off on? You never seem to miss the opportunity. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:35:01 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: [loud-fans] druids Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey on 2001/10/05 Fri PM 02:53:40 MDT wrote: > np: Julian Cope _An Audience with the Cope_ Speaking of the Arch-Druid, did anyone see last week's episode of Lexx? I'm probably the only one here who watches it. Anyway, the episode had a character in it who I swear to God was a parody of Julian Cope. He was a British ex-rocker acid casualty who went into rehab and came out a druid. His hit song even sounded vaguely Cope-like, from what I could tell from the mostly a cappella rendition. I wonder if I'm the only viewer of the show who caught that. The character died of course, just like everyone does on Lexx. Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:36:26 -0700 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette On 10/5/01, Aaron Mandel wrote: >That said, I clicked all over the savemonroe.org website and didn't even >see a link to the Republicans. Michael's main page has some fine print most people will have to scroll down to see. It reads, "Of course, if you are in favor of overdevelopment, sprawl, pollution, cronyism, waste, incompetence, backroom dealing, and mismanagement, click here." The final word links to the Republican site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:56:36 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] Ween Remaster (ns) Ok, everyone who hates Ween, please skip to the last paragraph. Ween lovers, I just picked up the reissue of God-Ween-Satan and it is un-fucking-believable. G-W-S has always been my favorite Ween album, and I assumed that the remaster w/bonus tracks would be fun, but nothing prepared me for the monsterous blast of sound that opens this thing up. Basically, "You Fucked Up" now has the sonic balls that it must have had in the minds of the Ween brothers when they conceived of it while inhaling antifreeze in their parent's attic, and every single song following is improved by an indescribable factor. It's as if the old CD was a 3rd generation cassette copy and this is a hyperwarp mark IV multidimensional transphase CDRDVD-SE plus. Easily the most stunning remaster that I've ever heard. Don't buy it for the bonus tracks (which aren't anything super special). Buy it because it's an incredible example of technology at work. Ok, Ween haters, I have a question: the sticker on this thing says "Limited Edition 25th Anniversary Reissue" but I have my doubts that it was actually recorded in 1976. Which makes me wonder if there's such a thing as 39-bit remastering or T-Base Pro Linear '46' Phasing. Because, based on the results displayed here, 39-bit remastering and T-Base Pro Linear '46' Phasing are capable of making my microcassette recording of me on the kazoo sound like the latest NSYNC #1 hit. Just what the heck are these magical things? I mean, I've seen what Pro-Tools can do, but this is just scary. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:40:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] druids On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Roger Winston wrote: > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey on 2001/10/05 Fri PM 02:53:40 MDT wrote: > > > np: Julian Cope _An Audience with the Cope_ > > Speaking of the Arch-Druid, did anyone see last week's episode of Lexx? > I'm probably the only one here who watches it. Anyway, the episode had > a character in it who I swear to God was a parody of Julian Cope. He > was a British ex-rocker acid casualty who went into rehab and came out a > druid. His hit song even sounded vaguely Cope-like, from what I could > tell from the mostly a cappella rendition. I wonder if I'm the only > viewer of the show who caught that. The character died of course, just > like everyone does on Lexx. So what is this "Lexx" of which you speak? (Do all my work for me, Rog.) Sure does sound like a parody of Julian H. Cope...I think I mentioned it here when, several months back, the comic strip "Mutts" quite clearly paid homage to Captain Beefheart. Really. Okay, I like this thread idea better than "let's rehash high school music": which (slightly more) popular cultural entities most tip the obscurometer in their own pop-cultural references? The Onion had an interview w/crime writer George Pelecanos a few weeks back, which mentioned that he often refers to (and sometimes incorporates) Steve Wynn's lyrics in his work. Anyone else? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, thinking that "what music will you be listening to in twenty years?" is an interesting question... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism:: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 16:55:22 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] druids At Friday 10/5/2001 05:40 PM -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >So what is this "Lexx" of which you speak? (Do all my work for me, Rog.) >Sure does sound like a parody of Julian H. Cope... Lexx is a science fiction show on the SciFi channel. It's a Canadian/German co-production that revels in lampooning American culture. It's basically a campy SF romp with juvenile humor, gratuitous sex (usually obscured in the American showings) and gratuitous violence. Definitely an acquired taste. Recommended. See: http://www.scifi.com/lexx/ The episode in question is 4.10: "Magic Baby" "The Dead do not poo" Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:54:15 -0700 From: "Brandon J. Carder" Subject: [loud-fans] POPSCURANTISM Jeffrey: Okay, I like this thread idea better than "let's rehash high school music": which (slightly more) popular cultural entities most tip the obscurometer in their own pop-cultural references? Me: Not exactly obscure, but my favorite comic strip, Get Fuzzy, besides being just fucking brilliant, features a character named Rob Wilco for the reason you might suspect. np the Frank and Walters _fashion crisis hits New York_ from the times before you had to "watch what you say." Cypress House/QED/Lost Coast Press Publishers of Exotic Paper Airplanes by Thay Yang and Tales From the Mountain by Pulitzer Prize nominee, Miguel Torga We don't rent pigs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:58:41 -0700 From: "Brandon J. Carder" Subject: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism Jeffrey: . Anyone else? Someone else: There's this one show I saw called Star Trek that references a whole bunch of Scott Miller songs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] POPSCURANTISM On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Brandon J. Carder wrote: > Me: > Not exactly obscure, but my favorite comic strip, Get Fuzzy, besides being > just fucking brilliant, features a character named Rob Wilco for the reason > you might suspect. Rob also wears a Ween shirt occasionally. Satchel is my hero, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:46:06 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] druids On Friday, October 5, 2001, at 04:35 PM, Roger Winston wrote: > Speaking of the Arch-Druid, did anyone see last week's episode of > Lexx? I'm probably the only one here who watches it. Anyway, the > episode had a character in it who I swear to God was a parody of Julian > Cope. He was a British ex-rocker acid casualty who went into rehab and > came out a druid. His hit song even sounded vaguely Cope-like, from > what I could tell from the mostly a cappella rendition. I wonder if > I'm the only viewer of the show who caught that. The character died of > course, just like everyone does on Lexx. Battle Royale *and* Lexx? Rog, Bill Bennett is going to pay you a personal visit if you don't straiten up! Last episode I caught was the all-singing story of the demise of the Brunnen-G, aptly titled Brigadoom. http://www.tvtome.com/servlets/EpisodeGuideSummary/showid-2065/season-all - - Steve __________ You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test. - George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:00:21 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism >There's this one show I saw called Star Trek that references a whole bunch of >Scott Miller songs Don't you mean Guided by Voices songs? Next thing you'll be telling me they got Kirk's middle initial wrong in Episode 2, Andy ASSOCIATED PRESS Oct. 5, 2001 | LOS ANGELES -- Stevie Wonder's ex-girlfriend has filed a $30 million palimony lawsuit against him, claiming that he gave her a sexually transmitted disease. Angela McAfee alleges in a lawsuit filed Thursday in Superior Court that Wonder concealed a contagious venereal disease from her and passed it to her through sexual contact. According to the lawsuit, McAfee discovered that she had contracted genital herpes from Wonder in October 2000. McAfee claims that Wonder, whose real name is Steveland Morris, sought a relationship with her for more than a decade. He persuaded her to quit working as a wardrobe consultant in August 1996 and move into his estate, the lawsuit said. The couple verbally agreed five years ago that he would be the sole income earner and she would remain at home, the lawsuit said. They lived together until February when Wonder allegedly breached the agreement. Wonder's attorney, Laura Wasser, said McAfee's claims have no merit. "The only breach that has been made is one of Stevie's trust in someone he had heretofore called a friend," Wasser said. The lawsuit states that McAfee helped the 51-year-old blind singer with medical and personal problems, including redesigning his home with Braille inscriptions. It also alleges that Wonder promised to provide lifetime support for her even if their relationship ended. [--from http://www.salon.com/people/wire/2001/10/05/wonder/index.html ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:03:50 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] druids At Friday 10/5/2001 06:46 PM -0500, steve wrote of Lexx: >Last episode I caught was the all-singing story of the demise of the >Brunnen-G, aptly titled Brigadoom. Singing AND dancing. That was the episode that turned me from casual watcher to fan, back in the day. I believe that was from the second season, but they just reran it recently. Even though I don't like musicals, I thought it was well done. Just remember when the musical episode of Buffy premieres in a few weeks(?), that there was another genre show that did it first... (Please, no Cop Rock comments.) Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:11:39 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette >On my campaign website I have a link to the county Republican Party site. I >just received an e-mail from them asking me to remove the link. > >Do I have to? After all, theirs is a public site. > >And yes, I can back up every charge I've made on there. Some webmasters amuse themselves (and others) by posting the communiquis asking them to do this or that, while not doing whatever's asked. That's strictly up to you, however, Andy "No matter what happens, just keep sticking it to 'em." - --dialogue from THE LONGEST YARD (1974), directed by Robert Aldrich, written by Tracy Keenan Wynn from a story by Albert S. Ruddy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 20:09:41 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette At 04:26 PM 10/5/2001 -0400, JRT456@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/5/01 1:08:03 PM, mbowen@frontiernet.net writes: > ><< On my campaign website I have a link to the county Republican Party site. >I >just received an e-mail from them asking me to remove the link. Do I have to? >After all, theirs is a public site. >> > >I'm more concerned that the local Republicans asked you to remove a link, and >your first thought was to run for advice from an Internet pop list. Has your >mother given you permission to run for office? Actually, it was my second thought. My first thought was to write to my college alumni list, because like this one, there are attorneys, web gurus, and others with a broad range of knowledge on-list, and I could get an answer quickly. (Which I thank you all for, BTW.) An attorney I spoke to this afternoon pretty much confirmed what I thought, and what everyone else said. JR, you're slipping. Your usual response to something like this is to allude to the poster's high school dating history. MB http://www.savemonroe.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:12:44 -0700 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Re: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism on 10/5/01 5:00 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > Oct. 5, 2001 | LOS ANGELES -- > > Stevie Wonder's ex-girlfriend has filed a $30 million palimony lawsuit > against him, claiming that he gave her a sexually transmitted disease. > > Angela McAfee alleges in a lawsuit filed Thursday in Superior Court that > Wonder concealed a contagious venereal disease from her and passed it to her > through sexual contact. [...] Sounds like McAfee's Virus Protection software wasn't functioning too well... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:24:41 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] re: popscurantism >Sounds like McAfee's Virus Protection software wasn't functioning too >well... I am slain. Andy ASSOCIATED PRESS Oct. 5, 2001 | ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Albuquerque police have taken doughnut runs to new heights, swooping down in an official helicopter for a late-night snack. "I don't know how they decided that was a good idea," said Lt. Bob Huntsman, department spokesman. Huntsman said the department is investigating. "If they violated policy or procedure, they're going to get disciplined for it," he said. "We've worked too hard to make this a professional unit to let lack of common sense tear us down." Keith Turner, who works near a Krispy Kreme doughnut shop, said he was on a break with other people early Thursday when a police helicopter circled and landed in a dirt field nearby. "I was like, `No, they'd better not go and get doughnuts,"' Turner said. As the helicopter idled, someone got out and went into the store, returning 10 or 15 minutes later with a Krispy Kreme box, he said. The chopper gave what Turner presumed was a goodbye toot on its police siren as it took off, he said. Huntsman confirmed it happened but said he had not yet spoken to those aboard. He said it appeared the two officers were near the end of their shift and probably were flying back to a hangar on the same side of town. [--from http://www.salon.com/people/wire/2001/10/05/doughnuts/index.html ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:43:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] Beautiful South news apparently Paul Heaton of the Beautiful South has a new solo project called Biscuit Boy AKA Crackerman. i say "apparently" not because i don't have proof (i bought the album yesterday) nor because it doesn't sound like Paul (it does) but because i still have trouble accepting that the name is real. i'll have to listen to it again; it doesn't seem as bland as recent Beautiful South, but only a few melodies were as instantly singable as TBS in their prime. a - -- to raise your intake of aaron, consider -- - -- fiction on demand -- free fast figments -- - -- read/request @ www.bantha.org/~trap/ltd -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:31:42 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Web Etiquette In a message dated 10/5/01 5:10:38 PM, mbowen@frontiernet.net writes: << JR, you're slipping. Your usual response to something like this is to allude to the poster's high school dating history. >> If it helps, most people who complain about cronyism grew up eating lunch alone in the school cafeteria. And to further help folks from looking too schoolish, you might all want to strike future references to Ari Fleischer and his statement about people watching what they say. Even Ted Koppel's taken to wondering how nerds got conned into making an issue over a very innocent remark. I think it helped that the hype got started on the AintItCool site. That said, it's Friday night and I just finished watching my new DVD of "Phantom of the Paradise." I better head off to something really cool like a Cockeyed Ghost concert. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:36:23 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols - -----Original Message----- From: Sue Trowbridge Sent: Fri 10/5/2001 2:51 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Cc: Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols - --- Michael Bowen wrote: > > np: Paula Carino - "Paleoclimatolagy", courtesy of mp3.com Speaking of Paula...in case anyone's interested in ordering her CD AQUACADE, it's available now at http://www.125records.com ============== YEAH!!!! - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: [loud-fans] Brand new Paula Carino CD! There's a new Paula Carino CD for sale! It's called AQUACADE, and we at 125 Records are very proud to be distributing Paula's terrific music! AQUACADE was produced by Andy Green, who worked with Paula & Regular Einstein on their SEVEN DEADLY SONGS EP from a few years ago. If you're a Paula fan, you will be very pleased with this CD. If you don't know Paula (former List member who has worked with Scott in the past) or her music, head over to the 125 Records web site (http://www.125records.com) and listen to the MP3s for a couple of the songs. You'll be very glad you did. In conjunction with the release of AQUACADE, we are offering a few specials. Buying Paula's CD along with one or more of our other CDs from the 125 Records web site (which accepts Paypal) means free shipping! (USA only) Check The Shop on the web site for more details. Once again, we're happy to bring you the best music your money can buy. Thank you for your support, J. Mallon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 00:47:42 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Re: 12th grade tunage Jeffrey says: "> music'" > Well, I thought it would be interesting. The child is the father of the man, as we all got told in 12th grade English class, and I believe our essences never really change...we just go through life experiences that either harden us, or make us grow. Also, it's fun to shake your head and go, WHY did I like THEM so much? (whoever "them" is...not referring to Van Morrison's '60s thing) I am curious to know what different listers were into in h.s. Was Cardinal a Village People fan? (just kidding Cardinal) Did Stewart spend his afternoons listening to Dave Brubeck and old King Crimson albums? Was Jen making friendship bracelets and listening to "American Beauty" side one over and over?.... Mark ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #256 *******************************