From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #255 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, October 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 255 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Movies? [Richard Gagnon ] Re: [loud-fans] Movies? ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Freedy [Dan Sallitt ] Re: [loud-fans] Freedy ["Max Germer" ] Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Freedy [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] Movies? [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Movies? [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] hope for the future (another Elvis moment) [AWeiss4338@ao] Re: [loud-fans] Movies? [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns [Stuart Bell ] Re: [loud-fans] Movies? [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Orange Peels w/ the Apples/Minders [mweber@library.berkel] Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols [Michael Mitton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 01:24:33 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns At 09:00 PM 10/3/01 -0700, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >>In Cragmont's defense, I have fond memories of their "sparkling punch." >> >>Weren't they Safeway's house brand? > >Still, I think. There's still Safeways? Ah. Round these parts they were all bought by the company that owns Krogers and Ralph's years ago. I always liked Safeway, though as Roger no doubt can attest, nothing beats a good King Soopers. The name alone makes it. >>NP: LIVE PEACE IN TORONTO 1969 -- Plastic Ono Band > >Side One or Side Two? Side two, or as I've always thought of it, "the good side." Who needs another cover of "Blue Suede Shoes"? Now Yoko's gonna do her thing, all over you, S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:00:52 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns At Thursday 10/4/2001 01:24 AM -0600, Stewart Mason wrote: >There's still Safeways? Ah. Round these parts they were all bought by the >company that owns Krogers and Ralph's years ago. I always liked Safeway, >though as Roger no doubt can attest, nothing beats a good King Soopers. >The name alone makes it. There are still many Safeways out here. I've seen them in California too. I shop at one. King Soopers is pretty cool, but always way too crowded. I can get in and out of Safeway a lot faster. BTW, That Cragmont Diet Mint Chocolate stuff really is the worst soft drink I've ever tasted. Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 08:56:52 -0400 From: "Max Germer" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns Sigh... Oh how I miss Safeway. And for no good reason, it just reminds me of growing up in Salt Lake City and riding my bike to the store. I get the same feeling whenever I hear Air Supply on the radio. max Rog wrote: > There are still many Safeways out here. I've seen them in California > too. I shop at one. King Soopers is pretty cool, but always way too > crowded. I can get in and out of Safeway a lot faster. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:14:32 -0500 From: "Keegstra, Russell" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns Stewart, then Roger: >>There's still Safeways? Ah. Round these parts they were all bought by the >>company that owns Krogers and Ralph's years ago. I always liked Safeway, >>though as Roger no doubt can attest, nothing beats a good King Soopers. >>The name alone makes it. > >There are still many Safeways out here. I've seen them in California >too. I shop at one. King Soopers is pretty cool, but always way too >crowded. I can get in and out of Safeway a lot faster. Our Abco down the street just turned into a Safeways. But of course, I haven't seen a Piggly Wiggly since Ohio. Russ, whose current favorite song is a Petsmart ad, the lyrics of which are: Gimme that gimme that gimme gimme gimme that Gimme that thing gimme that gimme gimme that Gimme that thing gimme gimme that gimme that Gimme gimme gimme that thing ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:14:10 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] hope for the future (another Elvis moment) Since my sister's hubby sprung for two tickets to "Riverdance," which came to town, (only for her enjoyment, as he detests stuff like that) I offered to take care of my near thirteen-year-old nephew for the evening. In the car, since I didn't have any Everclear for the lad to listen to, ("You don't have any Everclear??") he started rifling through my CDs. He didn't care for the Faint or Freedy Johnston too much, but he picked up "My Aim is True" and looked at it with great curiosity. His response? "He looks like a dork." I tried to explain how NOBODY looked like that in music in 1977, and how important a musician Elvis is and yadda yadda yadda, and fortunately Aaron didn't ask me if Elvis ever worked with Prince, (otherwise I may have had to shake my head while looking down with weariness like Mr. Hand grading papers in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High") but after playing him several songs, Aaron said, "I think Elvis Costello is kinda cool. I want this CD." I think Aaron appreciates Elvis' master of double-entendres. His favorite track? The demo of "No Action" on bonus disc two. Mark, who likes Diet Rite cola and the occasional Beacon tea (Beacon Drive-In...it's a Spartanburg, SC thing, but I think you can buy Beacon tea in bottles in some parts of the country) np Tiny Lights "Hazel's Wreath" (OMG, it has been 13 years since Jane Scarpantoni and co. autographed this...that does not seem possible) "It's a small world, but I wouldn't wanna paint it." Stephen Wright ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:58:46 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns Roger Winston wrote: > BTW, That Cragmont Diet Mint Chocolate stuff really is the worst soft > drink I've ever tasted. It isn't called Cro-Magnon Diet Mint Chocolate soda for nothing... Toodlepip, - -Stef PS Hi Max! :) Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:55:57 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Freedy On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Dan Sallitt wrote: > I like the new Freedy too. Song for song, it's not as strong as some of > his albums, but the sound and overall feel are really nice. And "Radio > for Heartache" is excellent. - Dan that was one of the better tunes on his *last* album, too, though. i haven't really spent enough time with the new Freedy to be sure of my diagnosis, but so far i agree with Dan, only more so -- better than average production/arrangement mostly compensating for weaker, less distinctive material -- an album to like, not to love. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:14:03 -0400 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? >Michael wrote: >If you're looking for something to like about Wilson, along with director >Wes Anderson, he co-wrote "Rushmore" as well as the upcoming "The Royal >Tannebaums" which by the preview looks to be as smartly eccentric as >"Rushmore" was. In the For What It's Worth department, Ebert and Roeper >singled out him in their "rising star" episode a couple weeks back. > "For what it's worth", indeed. Many of Ebert and Roeper's choices were excellent (hey, Taye Diggs!) or at least defensible (Vin Diesel), until Roger got to...Estella Warren !%! The man makes perfect sense, and then he reviews movies that feature women he finds attractive, and his compass goes haywire. "I wouldn't be surprised if most of these actors were nominated for Oscars over the next few years", they say. But Estella, stiffest, most inexpressive thing in Planet of the Apes, her generation's Linda Harrison, who could at least be explained away because she *was* fucking the head of the studio. ;) Rick, still ranting against synchronized swimmers and models taking the jobs of actors. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:53:42 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? > then he reviews movies that feature women he finds > attractive, and his compass goes haywire. I've noticed this occasionally, too. I think it was Piper Perabo last time, so it may even be a phenomenon limited to a rather specific body type. Put I paid money to see _The Bachelor_, so I'm in a poor position to criticize. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:25:59 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns "Keegstra, Russell" wrote: > > But of course, I haven't seen a Piggly Wiggly since Ohio. There are still Piggly Wiggly's in Alabama. > Russ, whose current favorite song is a Petsmart ad, the lyrics of which are: > Gimme that gimme that gimme gimme gimme that > Gimme that thing gimme that gimme gimme that > Gimme that thing gimme gimme that gimme that > Gimme gimme gimme that thing I don't know that one, but I like that Rally's one about "You gotta eat." Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:23:11 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? >It's certainly no "Bubble Boy" (my latest mistake when I was desperate for >a silly film). Oh, BUBBLE BOY would have been the Worst Film Of The Year 2001 for me, if I hadn't already seen SCARY MOVIE 2. Still, Marley Shelton's pretty damn cute, and I'm a sucker for "Land Of The Lost" references. I should point out that this is the best year for films I can think of. Ever. Here are the ones I've dug on this year--all the ones I can recall anyway! Comments encouraged. And of course, if you'd like details on a title from me, just ask. Pre-Seattle International Film Festival Favorites: AMORES PERROS, YI YI, THE PRICE OF MILK, THE PLEDGE, TABOO, CHUNHYANG, KEEP THE RIVER ON YOUR RIGHT, THINGS YOU CAN TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT HER, MEMENTO SIFF Favorites: GHOST WORLD, BARTLEBY, THE KING IS ALIVE, JACKPOT, CURE, LOST AND DELIRIOUS, GAUDI AFTERNOON, THE YOUNG AND THE DEAD Post-SIFF Favorites: HEDWIG AND THE ANGRY INCH, THOMAS IN LOVE, OUR SONG, ENLIGHTENMENT GUARANTEED Looking Forward To: TOGETHER, L.I.E., WAKING LIFE, TAPE, O, MACARTHUR PARK, THE KING IS DANCING, GO TIGERS! God bless Danny Trejo, Andy "So economical of space was the modern super-groove recording technique that long-players really were long-players. There were enough records on board to have lasted for a thousand years without repetition. It was not likely that anyone would become unduly bored with his or her journey." - --from THE MIND MAKERS by John E. Muller (aka R. Lionel Fanthorpe) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:27:28 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Freedy > > I like the new Freedy too. Song for song, it's not as strong as some of > > his albums, but the sound and overall feel are really nice. And "Radio > > for Heartache" is excellent. - Dan > > that was one of the better tunes on his *last* album, too, though. Do you mean that it sounds like other Freedy songs? I don't think he's recorded it before, though he's been performing it in concert for at least two years. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:21:14 -0400 From: "Max Germer" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Freedy > Do you mean that it sounds like other Freedy songs? I don't think he's > recorded it before, though he's been performing it in concert for at > least two years. - Dan He released it on the live 33 1/3 cd, which may have only been available at concerts. max ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:34:46 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns >Russ, whose current favorite song is a Petsmart ad, the lyrics of which are: >Gimme that gimme that gimme gimme gimme that >Gimme that thing gimme that gimme gimme that >Gimme that thing gimme gimme that gimme that >Gimme gimme gimme that thing That's a bubblegum song by Pipkins innit? Why don't you gimme dat Ting gimme dat Ting gimme dat Ting, Andy "P.C. Robinson's parents played with his little pink toes and decided that he was the cutest little bundle of humanity that the stork had ever left. Half a century had passed since anyone had played with P.C. Robinson's little pink toes! They had grown to large, flat, beat-calloused toes. . . due to the ministrations of the Metropolitan constabulary." - --from WOLF MAN'S VENGEANCE, by Pel Torro (aka R. Lionel Fanthorpe) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:37:47 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? Richard Gagnon wrote: > then he reviews movies that feature women he finds attractive, and his > compass goes haywire. And not just his compass, I imagine... T'pip, - -Stef Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:40:10 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Freedy On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Max Germer wrote: > > Do you mean that it sounds like other Freedy songs? I don't think he's > > recorded it before, though he's been performing it in concert for at > > least two years. - Dan > > He released it on the live 33 1/3 cd, which may have only been available at > concerts. > max I think I got mine from Miles of Music. It's excellent, and makes a pretty good case for Johnston as an interpretive singer. - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 11:44:01 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? At 10:23 AM 10/4/01 -0700, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >Looking Forward To: TOGETHER, L.I.E., WAKING LIFE, TAPE, O, MACARTHUR PARK, >THE KING IS DANCING, GO TIGERS! Other goodies coming out in the next few months include AMELIE (which will be massively hyped when it comes out next month, and for once deserves every bit of it, so don't let the Miramax publicity machine turn you off), CHICKEN RICE WAR (a parody of ROMEO AND JULIET -- both Shakespeare's and Baz Luhrmann's -- set at a pair of competing chicken rice stalls at a Singapore food court) and, hopefully, WATERBOYS, the new film by my favorite Japanese director, Shinobu Yaguchi. His last film, ADRENALINE DRIVE, got at least a limited US release, so I'm hoping this one'll come out. It's a completely over the top comedy about a bunch of high school boys who form a synchronized swim team, and has at least three scenes where I thought I was going to black out from laughing so hard. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? bad: i can't imagine anything this year being worse than _jeepers creepers_, quite possibly the single worst film I've ever seen in a theater. good: if i try to describe _the journey_ it sounds horrible -- new-agey, self-helpy, soundtrack filled with jam bands. but it's really, really good. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:15:10 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hope for the future (another Elvis moment) In a message dated 10/4/01 9:15:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Vivebonpop@aol.com writes: > . In the car, > since I didn't have any Everclear for the lad to listen to, ("You don't > have > any Everclear??") he started rifling through my CDs. He didn't care for > the > Faint or Freedy Johnston too much, but he picked up "My Aim is True" and > looked at it with great curiosity. His response? "He looks like a dork." > I > tried to explain how NOBODY looked like that in music in 1977, and how > important a musician Elvis is and yadda yadda yadda, and fortunately Aaron > didn't ask me if Elvis ever worked with Prince, (otherwise I may have had > to > shake my head while looking down with weariness like Mr. Hand grading > papers > in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High") but after playing him several songs, > Aaron > said, "I think Elvis Costello is kinda cool. I want this CD." I think > Aaron > appreciates Elvis' master of double-entendres. His favorite track? The > demo of "No Action" on bonus disc two. > > I had a feeling that some day this would start happening. I feel so old:-). Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:01:51 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? Stewart Mason on 2001/10/04 Thu AM 11:44:01 MDT wrote: > hopefully, WATERBOYS, the new film by my > favorite Japanese director, Shinobu Yaguchi. His last film, ADRENALINE > DRIVE, got at least a limited US release, so I'm hoping this one'll come > out. It's a completely over the top comedy about a bunch of high school > boys who form a synchronized swim team, and has at least three scenes where > I thought I was going to black out from laughing so hard. Speaking of over-the-top Japanese movies, has anyone seen BATTLE ROYALE? That's the one about the school kids who are put on an island and forced to kill each other off. I haven't seen it, but I've heard a lot of er... interesting things about it. I ordered the Hong Kong English-subtitled DVD, which should arrive any day. I'm not sure I'll ever be in a compatible frame of mind to watch it though. Oh, who am I kidding? Sure I will! IMDB entry: http://us.imdb.com/Details?0266308 Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 16:27:39 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns At 10:34 AM 10/4/2001 -0700, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > >Russ, whose current favorite song is a Petsmart ad, the lyrics of which >are: > >Gimme that gimme that gimme gimme gimme that > >Gimme that thing gimme that gimme gimme that > >Gimme that thing gimme gimme that gimme that > >Gimme gimme gimme that thing > > >That's a bubblegum song by Pipkins innit? Correctamundo. From 1970, a bigger hit in England than America. Sung by the ubiquitous Tony Burrows, who was also the voice heard on "Beach Baby" by First Class, "My Baby Loves Lovin'" by White Plains, "United We Stand" by The Brotherhood Of Man, and (to tie this into the Freedy thread) "Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)" by Edison Lighthouse. MB http://www.savemonroe.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:24:46 -0700 From: "Brandon J. Carder" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] please don't make me pay alimony Vivebonpop@aol.com sez np: the hummingbirds -lovebuzz- Man oh man. I haven't listened to that record in a decade. I can't hear it in my head, but don't they sound similar to the Primitives? I remember the artwork reminded me of the Primitive's "Lovely" lp. Australian, right? Don't slow down, you're gonna crash... Mark To which I reply: Yes, very much like said band but IMHO much better. Australian, too, and produced by a certain Mitch Easter to boot. Rumored to have made a second album called VA VA VOOM and an import Best Of may or may not be in print. You wouldn't believe how much I got made fun of for listening to this one in High School in 96... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:57:54 EDT From: Cardinal007@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? In a message dated 10/4/01 12:15:19 PM, gasp@aga.ca writes: >until Roger got to...Estella Warren !%! The man makes >perfect sense, and then he reviews movies that feature women he finds >attractive, and his compass goes haywire. This is the same Roger Ebert who opined that anyone planning their first exposure to the Marx Brothers seek out "Room Service" as the height of their prowess. I kid you not. He has since held Duck Soup and Night at the Opera in high esteem as well. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:45:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Michael Bowen wrote: > At 10:34 AM 10/4/2001 -0700, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > > >Russ, whose current favorite song is a Petsmart ad, the lyrics of which > >are: > > >Gimme that gimme that gimme gimme gimme that > > >Gimme that thing gimme that gimme gimme that > > >Gimme that thing gimme gimme that gimme that > > >Gimme gimme gimme that thing > Correctamundo. From 1970, a bigger hit in England than America. Sung by the > ubiquitous Tony Burrows, who was also the voice heard on "Beach Baby" by > First Class, "My Baby Loves Lovin'" by White Plains, "United We Stand" by > The Brotherhood Of Man, and (to tie this into the Freedy thread) "Love > Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)" by Edison Lighthouse. Oh now you've done it. Now we'll have to read, again, Stewart's encomiums to the genius that is Tony Burrows. Is "White Plains" right, though? Didn't someone else do that? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the sea is the night asleep in the daytime:: __Robert Desnos__ np: my printer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:13:17 -0500 From: zkk46@ttacs.ttu.edu Subject: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols Hey everybody, Did the Sex Pistols actually play the music on their albums, or did session musicians do it? Curious, because, historically, the Sex Pistols might be on every critics' list of worst players of all time, and they have said that Sid Vicious could't actually play bass at all. Listening to Never Mind the Bollocks though, the music is surprisingly good. Nothing on there that's really difficult from a playing perspective, but it definately has better breaks than Kiss, stronger hooks than Frampton, and more complicated rhythms from a chording perspective than Van Halen, to choose some contemporaries that are well thought of. How about the live albums from the time? Are they terrible, or worthwhile? I've seen that on one, they cover the Monkees' Steppin' Stone, which might be worth purchase price alone if it isn't too bad. I do not know if they are real, EAH thanks, Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:42:14 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 zkk46@ttacs.ttu.edu wrote: > and they have said that Sid Vicious could't actually > play bass at all. Lydon has denied that repeatedly. I've heard stories about massive overdubbing of guitar parts, but I don't think I've seen a serious well-founded suggestion that most of the parts weren't played by the band. I used to have one of the live albums (maybe _We have cum for your children?_ but sold it; if I remember right the sound quality was so bad that the performance quality was almost irrelevant. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 23:55:14 -0400 From: Stuart Bell Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns Jobriath....Wow I didn't think anyone else knew of him Two great albums! no CD's would love for his stuff to be released a la Costello with lots of extra tracks Andrew Hamlin wrote: > >In Cragmont's defense, I have fond memories of their "sparkling punch." > > > >Weren't they Safeway's house brand? > > Still, I think. > > >NP: LIVE PEACE IN TORONTO 1969 -- Plastic Ono Band > > Side One or Side Two? > > On unrealted notes, did anyone tape yesterday's "Buffy" premiere? And why > is Jobriath not in print anywhere in the known universe? > > They tell me Bowie ripped off HIM, > > Andy > > "Trifles make perfection, and perfection is no trifle." > > --Michelangelo, as quoted by C. C. Colton in LACON ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:09:15 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols In a message dated 10/4/01 10:43:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dmw@radix.net writes: > used to have one of the live albums (maybe _We have cum for your > children? Wasn't that a title of a Dead Boys LP? Mark np Kitchens of Distinction "The Death of Cool" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:15:36 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Orange Peels w/ the Apples/Minders Go SF Loudfans, and rub it in later. M At the Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, Tuesday, Oct. 9 at 9 p.m. And a big hello to all our east coast fans who missed us last month due to the postponement of our tour! Look for us early in 2002! Keep smiling, keep shining. . . Visit us at www.theorangepeels.com Cheers! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:22:03 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hope for the future (another Elvis moment) In a message dated 10/4/01 9:15:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Vivebonpop@aol.com writes: > His favorite track? The > demo of "No Action" on bonus disc two. > > Actually it isn't a demo, but an early version. Counting beans, splitting hairs, M ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:22:58 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? On Thursday, October 4, 2001, at 02:01 PM, Roger Winston wrote: > Speaking of over-the-top Japanese movies, has anyone seen BATTLE > ROYALE? That's the one about the school kids who are put on an island > and forced to kill each other off. I haven't seen it, but I've heard a > lot of er... interesting things about it. I ordered the Hong Kong > English-subtitled DVD, which should arrive any day. I'm not sure I'll > ever be in a compatible frame of mind to watch it though. Oh, who am I > kidding? Sure I will! A different kind of over-the-top, but its reputation far exceeds its content. There are any number of American B films that are similar. It does, however, give new meaning to the phrase "Look out, it's the transfer student!" A film that I own but have yet to watch - Grave Of The Fireflies, which an upcoming kid's film festival had scheduled on a double bill with Totoro, at least until someone told them what it's about. Now Totoro gets to go twice. - - Steve __________ I've noticed that this President's grassroots supporters cannot think of anything to say in his defense aside from screaming that he isn't Clinton. That wholly negative appeal, and not his mythic "likability," is Bush's primary asset. - Mark Crispin Miller ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:29:15 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movies? steve wrote: > > A film that I own but have yet to watch - Grave Of The Fireflies, which > an upcoming kid's film festival had scheduled on a double bill with > Totoro, at least until someone told them what it's about. Sooo... what is it about? Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: mweber@library.berkeley.edu (Matthew Weber) Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Orange Peels w/ the Apples/Minders At 12:15 AM 10/5/1, Vivebonpop@aol.com wrote: >Go SF Loudfans, and rub it in later. >M As a matter of fact I am probably going, and I'm very excited. So nyah. ;) Matt "Don't you want to abolish state power?" Yes, we do, but not right now...Our present task is to strengthen the people's state apparatus--mainly the people's army, the people's police and the people's courts... Mao Tse-Tung ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 01:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 Vivebonpop@aol.com wrote: > > np Kitchens of Distinction "The Death of Cool" > Ah yes, Kitchens of Distinction. "Strange Free World" came out my senior year of high school, and it was probably the tape I listened to most that year...not that I had many to choose from. Reminds me of how glad I am that my memories of music my senior year involve Kitchens, Madchester, and Cocteau Twins instead of--well, I have no memory of what my classmates listened to except that it involved a heavy amount of thumping. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:09:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] I am such a geek Okay, so I'm watching the reruns of _Buffy_'s first season on FX, and the one I taped this afternoon (the sorta Wm. Gibson-ripoff episode - not exactly among the best, I'd say) at one point featured a supposed screenshot including Buffy's birthdate - Oct. something 1980. Then, two seconds later, the same purported screenshot was in the next shot - w/her birthdate listed as May 1979. And a few minutes after that, an ad for the new episodes on UPN featured her now-useless gravestone - on which her birthdate is listed as 1981. The confusion between the two shots in the old ep. can almost make sense in that episode's context: the demon uploaded into the computer system is into confusion, among other things - but what gives, eh? "Get a life!" - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::can you write underwater on liquid paper?:: __Zippy__ np: Sixteen Deluxe _The Moonman Is Blue_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 23:53:11 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sex Pistols At 09:13 PM 10/4/01 -0500, zkk46@ttacs.ttu.edu wrote: >Hey everybody, > Did the Sex Pistols actually play the music on >their albums, or did session musicians do it? >Curious, because, historically, the Sex Pistols might >be on every critics' list of worst players of all time, >and they have said that Sid Vicious could't actually >play bass at all. It depends on who's talking and how cranky they're feeling, but I think there's fairly general agreement that Steve Jones played the bass on the records after Glen Matlock left -- listen to Sid-era live stuff and it's clear that indeed, he could only barely play the bass. Other than that, some folks have claimed that Chris Spedding was involved, but I think that's been disproven. Thing is, Steve Jones actually *is* a really good guitarist (for what he was doing, anyway), and Paul Cook isn't a bad drummer at all. That whole "they couldn't play" is hype that turned into received wisdom. Chris Spedding *was* a Womble, though. S NP: EDITH SITWELL READING HER POEMS ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #255 *******************************