From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #250 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, September 30 2001 Volume 01 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] More on "rip-proof" CDs... ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] Oh My God... [Jer Fairall ] Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey [Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] More on "rip-proof" CDs... http://www.zdnet.com/zdfeeds/msncobrand/news/0%2C13622%2C2815388%2C-hud00025 nshm3%2C00.html The slow descent into TiVo hacking, Andy A Washington Post reporter sends MediaNews this news release correction, which he received today under the subject line, "Unfortunate error." The PR man's note reads: "In my recent letter regarding Generation Partners, I had referred to its managing partners as having 'interesting Alger Hiss backgrounds.' I meant to say that they had 'Horatio Alger' backgrounds. So they can be characterized as rags-to-riches types, not as highly placed diplomats acting as double agents for the Soviets. A slight difference. Please excuse the error and this redundant e-mail." [--from Jim Romenesko's MediaNews site, http://www.poynter.org/medianews/ ] (courtesy Stewart Mason) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 03:41:16 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey In a message dated 9/28/01 11:11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dc@bainbridge.net writes: > don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but the Misra records site > (www.misrarecords.com) is announcing the release of a new two-disc set > from Jenny Toomey Yep. It's coming out next week, and is absolutely nothing like Tsunami. I must have it, if not for the radical departure to orchestral music, then 'cause I've had a bit of a crush on the radiant Miss Toomey for quite some time. A musician, the drive to start her own label, and an excellent writer as well. I've read her record reviews in older issues of AP. She could probably even keep Stewart from being bored with her muscial knowledge. And she's a fox. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:57:50 -0500 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey on 9/29/01 2:41 AM, Vivebonpop@aol.com wrote: > Yep. It's coming out next week, and is absolutely nothing like Tsunami. I > must have it, if not for the radical departure to orchestral music, then > 'cause I've had a bit of a crush on the radiant Miss Toomey for quite some > time. A musician, the drive to start her own label, and an excellent writer > as well. I've read her record reviews in older issues of AP. She writes for the Washington Post as well, under the somewhat formal byline "Jennifer Toomey", and does indeed seem to do a good job. The one time I saw her in DC other than hanging around DCCD she did a brief solo gig with Dana and Karen Kletter, mostly to preview some of her then-new solo material (this was 1999). I liked it a heckuva lot better than Tsunami. Michael last read: Dupont Circle, a novel exploring relationships in upper crust DC that namedrops DCCD as well as Kramerbooks and the Brickskellar. last played: Tori Amos, Strange Little Girls - ------------------------------------------------------- Michael Zwirn michael@zwirn.com Home: 503/232-8919 September 2001: 317/283-3986 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:39:43 -0400 From: David A Seldin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns the soft drinks of its youth My parents always make sure to have a few 32 oz. bottles of 50/50 around when I visit them in Cleveland. I love that stuff, and now my daughter does too. If only we could get it here in the unenlightened east... So pleasant to discuss trivia, David On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:44:58 -0400 "John Swartzentruber" writes: > > If it is the Big Red I remember, it was easily available in western PA > in my youth. Along with 50/50, which is what I sorely miss. Half > lemon/lime and half grapefruit. And don't go arguing fractions with > me. > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:53:47 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a mulleted nation mourns At 10:30 PM 9/28/01 -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >> On the other hand, Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray Tonic, which is, you guessed it, a >> celery-flavored soft drink, is absolutely delicious. > >I've never gotten up the nerve to try this - just because, even though I >like celery, esp. as an ingredient, I can't quite imagine a soda made from >it. It's nowhere near as gross as it might sound. Celery doesn't have a very intense flavor at all, so it's more of a note in the scent of the drink than anything. Basically, it tastes like a really lightly-flavored ginger ale. Part of the reason why it's a staple of New York-style delis is that since it's so mild and crisp, it doesn't compete with the flavorful joys of, say, a good reuben or a plate of chopped liver. S NP: Giants (1976 or so power pop with a post Beau Brummels Ron Elliott and a pre-Knack Bruce Gary) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:00:03 -0700 From: dc Subject: Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > If it's two 36-minute discs and costs what a double-CD normally costs, it > seems pointless & a bit of a rip-off (also since the length of the music, > and the pressing of the discs, isn't where most the costs arise anyway). the Misra site is listing the set for $12, plus postage, so that would seem fair. > I never got into Tsunami either... actually, my introduction to Ms. Toomey came via the Liquorice album "Listening Cap," which i think represents her best songwriting and sounds nothing like Tsunami. unfortunately, the long-rumored follow-up never seems to have materialized; on the last Tsunami tour she introduced one of the songs during the encore as "from the next Liquorice album," so i'm wondering if that material will turn up on this new set instead. as i recall, the song was very pretty and ended with the line "i choose you." if only. dc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jer Fairall Subject: [loud-fans] Oh My God... From www.icemagazine.com's list of October CD releases: October 30 V/A Better Than The Beatles: A Tribute To The Shaggs It's (almost) Halloween, Jer np: The Clash/LONDON CALLING ===== Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:40:49 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey In a message dated 9/29/01 2:01:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dc@bainbridge.net writes: > my introduction to Ms. Toomey came via the Liquorice album "Listening > Cap," which i think represents her best songwriting and sounds nothing like > Tsunami. unfortunately, the long-rumored follow-up never seems to have > materialized; Who was in Liquorice? Wasn't that guy who called himself See-Saw (I liked bedroom home taping on 4-track better than the current use of home computers, i.e. Kleenex Girl Wonder...there's nothing like a little bit of analog haze to brighten your day...ask the Dukes of Stratosphear) on the Simple Machines label in that group? Simple Machines was without a doubt an excellent label. That's why it had to die. I think one of the best album covers ever is Danielle Howle's album for SM, "About to Burst." The cover is mostly an old photo of I suppose an infant DH being held by her mother in front of a white '60s Pontiac. It is a tad like Throwing Muses' "The Real Ramona" album art, but there's just something about it I find captivating. Maybe it's the touch of Americana. Unfortunately my copy of Tsunami's "The Deep End" hasn't fared too well over the years. The ink from the packaging has fused itself to the playing surface of the CD. I can't be the only one this has happened with. I definitetly need to take it to the local used CD shop to have it buffed out. Oh btw, the release date is not next week, it is the following for the new JT discs. Mark, who found out that the album art for the Tooth and Nail release by the Toccoa GA band Luxury ("the Latest and the Greatest") a few years back was done by a friend that works at the record shop I frequent. I think he said he only got $150 bucks for it. If anyone has this, has seen this cover, it is a picture of a Chip Douglas looking teenage guy taking a picture of a girl dancing at what looks to be a disco. This was taken from a delapidated sixties Kodak catalog, and holes in the paper were painstakingly filled in for transfer. A great album cover. np Jump, Little Children "Vertigo" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:48:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] she's like a heroine, Toomey On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 Vivebonpop@aol.com wrote: > Who was in Liquorice? Wasn't that guy who called himself See-Saw on > the Simple Machines label in that group? I don't think so. That's Trevor/hollAnd (still recording as "hollAnd", natch); Liquorice was Dan Littleton (of Ida) and Jenny with contributions from Rob Christiansen (Eggs) and Trey Many (His Name Is Alive). I think. It wouldn't surprise me if the upcoming record were engineered by Trevor, since he seems to be everywhere, but Listening Cap was made with Warren DeFever. I'm slightly disappointed that Franklin Bruno's album of songs written for Jenny to sing is (by all accounts) in roughly the style that she's heading toward herself; I thought her version of "Keeping The Weeking Free" on Listening Cap was brilliant precisely because it was a contrast from Bruno's original. a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 00:43:25 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] the White Stripes Everywhere I look I see a picture of these two...always in white shirts and red pants. Anyone have an opinion of the White Stripes? I think the girl, Meg White, is strikingly beautiful in an unusual way, though this is no reason to be interested in a band (well, JT's cuteness made me buy Tsunami records, admittedly). While loosely on the topic of pictures I found a great little toy that is quite inexpensive. The Family Dollar store chain sell little 110 cameras for 99 cents each. They come in different colors, and the lenses are quite cheap which result in grainy, dreamlike photos that are really quite interesting stylistically (think '80s R.E.M. cover art). I took some amazing snaps of downtown Charleston, SC at sunset recently. Film is about 3 bucks, and about 5 to develop. Cheap fun. Mark np Suzanne Vega "Songs in Red and Gray" ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #250 *******************************