From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #224 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, September 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] raggin' the top 10 (ns) ["Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett"] [loud-fans] returning to loudfans [Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com] Re: [loud-fans] returning to loudfans ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) [Michael Mitton ] Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) ["John Swartzentruber" ] RE: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) [Jon Tveite ] Re: [loud-fans] too many notes [Aaron Mandel ] [loud-fans] rip the rippers [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] too many notes [dmw ] RE: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) ["Larry Tucker" ] Re: [loud-fans] tracking note [Tim_Walters@digidesign.com] Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) [dc ] Re: [loud-fans] too many notes [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) [Jason Long ] Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) [Jason Long ] Re: [loud-fans] too many notes [Vivebonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) ["Andrew Hamlin" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] raggin' the top 10 (ns) Dana: > Keith Harris weighs in (in Slate) on what's really wrong with music. > It's those snooty Anglophilic taste-makers, trying to make us feel guilty > for loving the crass US top 10, and attempting to guilt trip us into > loving Travis and Radiohead. Yeah, the top 10 (singles) in the UK is *vastly* superior, I'm sure - the week before we had a bunch of nitwits called the Solid Crew or somesuch at numero uno with their melodic delight "21 seconds" where an endless stream of tedious rappers did, I suppose, 21 seconds each of, er, rap. Great. Last week they were surpassed by some boy band doing a very pale imitation of Chic. Whoopee. Although, oddly enough, snooty English > taste-maker Nick Hornby isn't a big fan of Radiohead. Me neither - ditto Travis. Who cares? Ian np Monkees bonus CD from The Definitive Monkees ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:07:41 -0400 From: Overall_Julianne@isus.emc.com Subject: [loud-fans] returning to loudfans > Is this thing on? > > > -julianne > PS If so, I've missed you! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:15:38 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] returning to loudfans >> Is this thing on? >> >> >> -julianne >> PS If so, I've missed you! We missed you too Julianne! Welcome back! Cue John Sebastian (remember Belushi shoving the harmonica in his mouth?), Andy "I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood." - --John Brown, from his "Last Statement," December 2, 1859 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:11:27 -0500 From: Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] too many notes I think this is Jeff, then aaron, then Jeff: > > His Name Is Alive > > this was my big WTF record of the year so far. ?? That could be "what the fuck?" - but that doesn't tell me whether it's "what the fuck? this is sheer brilliance!" or "what the fuck? my head hurts." Or it could be Wait Till Friday, Wilt the Furniture, Wild Toe Farmer... <><><><><><><> I was sort of imagining the WTO protests reconfigured as professional wrestling. obviously fake, - --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:17:20 -0400 (EDT) From: jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu Subject: Re: [loud-fans] returning to loudfans Quoting Andrew Hamlin : > We missed you too Julianne! Welcome back! > > Cue John Sebastian (remember Belushi shoving the harmonica in his > mouth?) Are you sure you don't mean Belushi smashing Stephen Bishop's guitar in ANIMAL HOUSE ("I Gave My Love a Cherry")? Or is this another Belushi-attacks-AOR-wimp-with-instrument incident? Oh, yeah, nice to see you Julianne! On and on, JS - ------------------------------------------------- Brooklyn Law School WebMail (IMP): bls.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:17:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jsharple@bls.brooklaw.edu Subject: Re: [loud-fans] returning to loudfans Quoting Andrew Hamlin : > We missed you too Julianne! Welcome back! > > Cue John Sebastian (remember Belushi shoving the harmonica in his > mouth?) Are you sure you don't mean Belushi smashing Stephen Bishop's guitar in ANIMAL HOUSE ("I Gave My Love a Cherry")? Or is this another Belushi-attacks-AOR-wimp-with-instrument incident? Oh, yeah, nice to see you Julianne! On and on, JS - ------------------------------------------------- Brooklyn Law School WebMail (IMP): bls.brooklaw.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:31:21 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] returning to loudfans >> Cue John Sebastian (remember Belushi shoving the harmonica in his >> mouth?) > >Are you sure you don't mean Belushi smashing Stephen Bishop's guitar in ANIMAL >HOUSE ("I Gave My Love a Cherry")? Or is this another >Belushi-attacks-AOR-wimp-with-instrument incident? Ah no, this was when Sebastian was on "Saturday Night Live" singing the "Welcome Back Kotter" theme. When time came for the harmonica solo (this is the full version of the song), Sebastian had no harmonica in evidence. Belushi walked into the frame and shoved one into Sebastian's mouth, solo ensued, Belushi then removed harmonica and withdrew. Somebody back me up here? >On and on, Yeah, especially since your message came through four times. Still short of the Breen record though, Andy AP - Lubbock, Texas In the end, it was the Three Stooges who tripped up Patrick Michael Penker. During an identify-fraud scheme that lasted for several years, Penker used variations of the name of a law firm from a Three Stooges episode - "Dewey, Cheatem & Howe" - to obtain cashier's checks from banks. Prosecutors said he bilked credit card companies and casinos out of $1 million. It was John Reed, a banker at American State Bank in Lubbock, who became suspicious about the the name and contacted the FBI. "It did seem just a bit unusual for a company name," Reed said this week. "Evidently, he fooled a lot of people." Penker, 54, pleaded guilty Monday in federal court and could get up to 40 years in prison and $1 million in fines. No sentencing date was set. (courtesy Jeffrey Norman) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:21:53 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) I have this live GT recording from 1988 and I'm having a hard time trying to place a song, so instead of going through and listening to the entire catalog I'm sure the answers resides amongst you. It has a spoken word rap-like delivery and makes a reference to Carol Lombard. What is that song? - -Larry welcome back Julianne! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) Sounds like "Dead Center" - house with seven gables, Clark Gable, Carole Lombard... On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Larry Tucker wrote: > I have this live GT recording from 1988 and I'm having a hard time > trying to place a song, so instead of going through and listening to the > entire catalog I'm sure the answers resides amongst you. It has a spoken > word rap-like delivery and makes a reference to Carol Lombard. What is > that song? > > -Larry > > welcome back Julianne! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:40:47 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) FIRST: That's it. Thanks Joe! SECOND: Joe, what's the latest news on the live Loud Family album from 125 Records? THIRD: Congratulations on the upcoming Paula Carino. This is some great stuff! - -Larry |-----Original Message----- |From: Joseph M. Mallon [mailto:jmmallon@joescafe.com] |Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:32 PM |Cc: loud-fans (E-mail) |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) | | |Sounds like "Dead Center" - house with seven gables, Clark |Gable, Carole |Lombard... | |On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Larry Tucker wrote: | |> I have this live GT recording from 1988 and I'm having a hard time |> trying to place a song, so instead of going through and |listening to the |> entire catalog I'm sure the answers resides amongst you. It |has a spoken |> word rap-like delivery and makes a reference to Carol |Lombard. What is |> that song? |> |> -Larry |> |> welcome back Julianne! | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:47:19 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) "Larry Tucker" on 2001/09/06 Thu PM 02:40:47 MDT wrote: > THIRD: Congratulations on the upcoming Paula Carino. This is some great > stuff! There's a new Paula Carino coming out? What was wrong with the old one? Did the warranty expire? Can she be recycled? Will the new one resubscribe to LoudFans? So many stupid questions, so little time, Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:49:08 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) An uncredited news item in the new WFMU newsleter says: The Big five record labels begin selling CDs with special code that prohibits ripping of tracks into MP3 onto burners. They have hit the shelves in Europe, but not U.S. yet. Anyone else heard of this? It's slightly unclear whether this means that you can't rip MP3's or you can't burn them. Or something else even more sinister. Also, in my continuing effort to force Jeff to buy a Clinic CD, I quote: CLINIC "They are the future of rock!" "They're Radiohead's favorite band!" "They are the Best Band Ever!" "They're from Liverpool!" "They wear Surgical Masks!!!!" "They're WFMU's Favorite Band!!" These are just a few of the accolades they've received since their debut album, Internal Wrangler, was released last year. On Scott Williams' show, date and time to be announced on September 17th. Check the website at wfmu.org after 9/17. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Dana L Paoli wrote: > The Big five record labels begin selling CDs with special code that > prohibits ripping of tracks into MP3 onto burners. They have hit the > shelves in Europe, but not U.S. yet. > > Anyone else heard of this? It's slightly unclear whether this means > that you can't rip MP3's or you can't burn them. Or something else even > more sinister. I read an AP story in te Oregonian about this maybe a week ago. From what I remember, it was only two of the big five who were issuing them, and it was only in Europe for the time being. And, I think it said that you wouldn't even be able to rip MP3s. It also said you wouldn't be able to do CD-R copies of the disks. (It's this last part that confuses me because I thought making CD-Rs for personal use was covered under "fair use" for CDs). Of course, I'm sure that within a month, some 14 year old kid in the Netherlands will post a fix to get around the copy protection. - --Michael p.s. Hey Julianne! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:16:46 -0700 From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) On 9/6/01, Michael Mitton wrote: >Of course, I'm sure that within a month, some 14 year old kid in the >Netherlands will post a fix to get around the copy protection. Meanwhile, you can just record the CD to cassette tape (or other analog medium) and make your MP3s from that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:21:27 -0400 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:10:03 -0400 (EDT), Michael Mitton wrote: >From what >I remember, it was only two of the big five who were issuing them, and it >was only in Europe for the time being. And, I think it said that you >wouldn't even be able to rip MP3s. It also said you wouldn't be able to >do CD-R copies of the disks. (It's this last part that confuses me >because I thought making CD-Rs for personal use was covered under "fair >use" for CDs). From what I remember, you won't even be able to play them in your computer CD drive. It increases the amount of "bad" data to the point that a CD drive won't read it, but most audio players will. Apparently they think they're ahead if they only totally piss off 5%* of their market "fair use" seems to be a concept that no longer matters under new copyright laws. *this number is an arbitrary one that I pulled out of thin air ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:38:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, John Swartzentruber wrote: > "fair use" seems to be a concept that no longer matters under new > copyright laws. I despise this solution to the problem, but I think the "fair use" aspect of copyright doesn't have anything to do with how easy it is for someone to sample a given work. You can publish something on that ugly brown xerox-resistant paper if you want. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Larry Tucker wrote: > SECOND: Joe, what's the latest news on the live Loud Family album from > 125 Records? We're in coversation with Alias Records to validate the releasing. Our revised date is late this year - an excellent Xams gift for all your loved ones! > THIRD: Congratulations on the upcoming Paula Carino. This is some great > stuff! There is indeed a new Paula Carino CD coming out from 125 Records. (Paula herself is the same wonderful person she's assumedly always been.) It's called AQUACADE and is the result of recent sessions with Andy Green, the producer of SEVEN DEADLY SONGS, the first Regular Einstein CD. AQUACADE is being released in a limited edition of 100 copies, and will be available toward the middle of October. It's terrific music, so get it while you can! For more details, please visit the 125 Records web site (http://www.125records.com), where you will find MP3s of a couple of the songs. Promote promote promote, J. Mallon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:59:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Tveite Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Michael Mitton wrote: > It also said you wouldn't be able to do CD-R copies of the disks. > (It's this last part that confuses me because I thought making CD-Rs > for personal use was covered under "fair use" for CDs). I'm sure that's probably right, but it doesn't matter. That power is just too prone to abuse. We all have to sacrifice some of our personal rights to protect Corporate America's self-perceived interests. It's unpatriotic to suggest otherwise. The big music syndicates probably go to bed at night and dream of a day when new recordings are not distributed physically at all, and the wireless Internet is a big jukebox that plays any song you want to hear -- for a price, of course. Pay per spin. Damn those pesky consumers with their sound-trapping devices! Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:06:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] too many notes On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > By "filed with" you mean in terms of how it affected you, not how it > sounds - since the Music Tapes sound alomost nothing like the Sixth > Great Lake - right? right, except that i had started to get the impression that the Elephant 6 collective sort of encouraged people to churn things out and let the public decide if they were any good. this is fine, but it means that i don't check something out just because of who's in the band. as with all dismissive opinions based on accumulated ideas on records that the opinionator did not like, the best way to derive utility from this opinion is to ignore it. > > > His Name Is Alive > > ?? That could be "what the fuck?" - but that doesn't tell me whether it's > "what the fuck? this is sheer brilliance!" or "what the fuck? my head > hurts." in this case, "what the fuck? is this the right CD?"; even after hearing their previous record i wasn't entirely prepared for something so pointedly unlike the earlier records i still associate with the HNIA name. it's not likely i'll listen to it enough to say i dislike it. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] rip the rippers On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, John Swartzentruber wrote: > >do CD-R copies of the disks. (It's this last part that confuses me > >because I thought making CD-Rs for personal use was covered under "fair > >use" for CDs). so did many of us. > > >From what I remember, you won't even be able to play them in your > computer CD drive. It increases the amount of "bad" data to the point > that a CD drive won't read it, but most audio players will. Apparently > they think they're ahead if they only totally piss off 5%* of their > market > > "fair use" seems to be a concept that no longer matters under new > copyright laws. that's a little unfair. there's a lot of serious debate about the degree to which practices such as these (and DCMA-protected encryption schemes, more to the point) do or don't erode fair use. it's not quite an ex post facto situation (now would be a good time to make your views known to your elected representatives, or, if your ambitious, i believe there is a general call for comment still open). > *this number is an arbitrary one that I pulled out of thin air the one i've seen bandied about is closer to 15% - -- d. np swimming pool q's _the deep end_ - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:09:57 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] too many notes On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: > in this case, "what the fuck? is this the right CD?"; even after hearing > their previous record i wasn't entirely prepared for something so > pointedly unlike the earlier records i still associate with the HNIA > name. it's not likely i'll listen to it enough to say i dislike it. ditto, except i'm obligated to listen to it enough to say *something* substantive about it. - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:22:56 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) |> THIRD: Congratulations on the upcoming Paula Carino. This is |some great |> stuff! | |There is indeed a new Paula Carino CD coming out from 125 Records. |(Paula herself is the same wonderful person she's assumedly |always been.) |It's called AQUACADE and is the result of recent sessions with |Andy Green, |the producer of SEVEN DEADLY SONGS, the first Regular Einstein CD. | |AQUACADE is being released in a limited edition of 100 copies, |and will be |available toward the middle of October. It's terrific music, so get it |while you can! For more details, please visit the 125 Records web site |(http://www.125records.com), where you will find MP3s of a |couple of the |songs. | |Promote promote promote, |J. Mallon These are two great MP3s too! Any record collector has to have a soft spot for "Venus Records" and I can not get "Tip of the Iceberg" outta my head. Paula says that GIRLFRIEND is one of her favorite albums and AQUACADE reminds me of it with that earthy simple sound and immediate guitars. Surely destined for many a Top 10 - -Larry Was that good enough Joe? Do I get my endorsement kickback now? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:00:34 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: [loud-fans] tracking note I ran into Zach Smith in an elevator today. He is working for Rob Poor's company, who turn out to be consulting clients of the person I was having lunch with. While we were chatting I surreptitiously attached a radio beacon to the cuff of his pants, so we should be able to get more reliable data on his movements in the future. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:02:39 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tracking note >While we were chatting I surreptitiously attached a radio beacon >to the cuff of his pants, so we should be able to get more reliable data on >his movements in the future. "He's still in the drawer." "Wow, that's three straight days!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 17:16:07 -0700 From: dc Subject: Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) "Joseph M. Mallon" wrote: > There is indeed a new Paula Carino CD coming out from 125 Records. > (Paula herself is the same wonderful person she's assumedly always been.) > It's called AQUACADE and is the result of recent sessions with Andy Green, > the producer of SEVEN DEADLY SONGS, the first Regular Einstein CD this is welcome, welcome news! i've been listening to SEVEN DEADLY SONGS, er, regularly of late. question, though: didn't she do some sessions a couple of years ago with Scott minding the board? did that work ever see the light of day? doug c vicinity of seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:42:10 EDT From: GlenSarvad@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Rebecca Gates I'm curious how many chances you gave this one, Aaron. If this had been by, say, Rebecca Gilmore or Bill Gates I probably would have filed it away and shared your assessment. But such is my regard for Ms. Gates that I gave it a few more tries and the songs came through loud and clear. But yeah, I would like some uptempo stuff and I would like more than 30 minutes. aaron writes: > > Rebecca Gates > > i was always amazed at how she could make a whole album dripping with > languidness and yet make all her songs so distinctive and different from > one another. she seems to have lost this ability, or intentionally > abandoned it for some sort of lounge-spirited thing. several great songs > when taken in isolation, unbearable album. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:53:06 -0400 From: "betsy way" Subject: [loud-fans] separated at birth? I hope to get my review of Jen's tape-swap tape compiled tomorrow. One thing it's definitely shown me is that I never paid enough attention to the Judybats. On a slightly skewed note, Doug and I were enjoying our dinner tonight while watching the MTV Video Music Awards. Perhaps this is why we're married, but we both thought that the King of Pop looked a little too much like Ari, the sexy she-ape in the new-and-not-improved Planet of the Apes. Creepy. New Sloan in October! - --betsy np: Beulah (When Your Heartstrings Break) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:48:12 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] too many notes In a message dated 9/6/01 1:24:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jenor@csd.uwm.edu writes: > By "filed with" you mean in terms of how it affected you, not how it > sounds - since the Music Tapes sound alomost nothing like the Sixth Great > Lake - right? I hated the Music Tapes disc. I sold it almost immediately. It is just...bad (to me). The Sixth Great Lake are kind of alt country. A pleasurable, dare I say, mellow listen. - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:03:21 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) At 12:16 PM 9/06/01 -0700, John Cooper wrote: >On 9/6/01, Michael Mitton wrote: > >>Of course, I'm sure that within a month, some 14 year old kid in the >>Netherlands will post a fix to get around the copy protection. > >Meanwhile, you can just record the CD to cassette tape (or other analog >medium) and make your MP3s from that. Or you could just use Cool Edit or some other such program, play the CD in your CD-Rom drive and create a .wav file of the song, which you could then use to create an mp3. I had a Liz Phair bootleg CD-R that I was unable to digitally extract the tracks from without there being errors. I used this method to create .wav files to use to burn a new copy of the show. There's always a way around... Cheers, Jase ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:05:31 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RIP ripping? (ns) At 03:21 PM 9/06/01 -0400, John Swartzentruber wrote: > From what I remember, you won't even be able to play them in your >computer CD drive. It increases the amount of "bad" data to the point >that a CD drive won't read it, but most audio players will. Apparently >they think they're ahead if they only totally piss off 5%* of their >market Oops, I guess this cancels out what I said in my earlier post. Guess I should have read the rest of the posts on the subject first before opening my own mouth. Although that wouldn't stop you from connecting your stereo CD player to the line in jack on your soundcard and looking after matters that way... Jase ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:57:33 EDT From: Vivebonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] too many notes In a message dated 9/7/01 12:52:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Vivebonpop@aol.com writes: > I hated the Music Tapes disc. I sold it almost immediately. It is > just...bad (to me). The Sixth Great Lake are kind of alt country. A > pleasurable, dare I say, mellow listen. > > I don't think they sound at all similar, and I follow that record label's releases for the most part. M p.s. Unless you like stuff like St. Etienne, I'd stay away from I Am the World Trade Center also. Another 15 dollar mistake. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:48:44 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] QUESTION - (scott content, oh yeah!) >question, though: didn't she do some sessions a couple of years ago with >Scott minding the board? did that work ever see the light of day? Pretty sure that became Regular Einstein's ROBOTS HELPING ROBOTS. Never officially released, but Paula did sell copies at her shows. Anyone know if she's still got copies to sell? Eager to compare the "Venus Records" takes, Andy BlondGirlie16: who is Andy? ForToy: I can't tell you ForToy: It's a secret BlondGirlie16: why BlondGirlie16: tell me dammit ForToy: He's discreet ForToy: A great thinker ForToy: Ahead of his time BlondGirlie16: thats a scary thought BlondGirlie16: my boyfriend's name is Andy......thats why im asking who is it ForToy: I watch his back, he watches mine ForToy: It's not the same guy BlondGirlie16: hope not BlondGirlie16: how old is Andy? ForToy: That would be "inconvenient" ForToy: Who knows? [--from some chat room, somewhere] (courtesy Jeff Travis) ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #224 *******************************