From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #211 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, August 27 2001 Volume 01 : Number 211 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! [Vivabonpop@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! [Dana L Paoli ] Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! [Vivabonpop@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:01:06 EDT From: Vivabonpop@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! Can you guess who I am? I: (a) Listen to an inordinate amount of Belle and Sebastian CDs. (b) Need to be more heavily medicated. (c) Cause the blood pressure of certain Loudfans to rise. For those of you who've missed me, I've missed you. For those of you who did the Snoopy dance when I departed last, it is my sublime pleasure to be the antimatter in your universe. np: Laurie Anderson "Life on a String" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:30:13 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! For those of you who've missed me, I've missed you. For those of you who did the Snoopy dance when I departed last, it is my sublime pleasure to be the antimatter in your universe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back!! Things have been pretty slow since you left, so it's great to see you've forgiven us. Just so you'll know though, the rest of the list unsubbed about a week after you left. They all were pretty ashamed about the way they treated you, and decided that it was a little too depressing to continue. Basically I'm the only one left on loud-fans at this point, and I'm afraid that the only topic for the last few weeks has been "The Dustdevils: brilliant geniuses or misunderstood geniuses?" If you'd like to join in, I'll be happy to email you the last 20 messages that I posted on the topic, just to get you up to speed. It's great to have some company at last!! - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:31:31 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! At Sunday 8/26/2001 02:01 PM -0400, Vivabonpop@aol.com wrote: >Can you guess who I am? > >I: >(a) Listen to an inordinate amount of Belle and Sebastian CDs. >(b) Need to be more heavily medicated. >(c) Cause the blood pressure of certain Loudfans to rise. > > >For those of you who've missed me, I've missed you. For those of you who did >the Snoopy dance when I departed last, it is my sublime pleasure to be the >antimatter in your universe. > >np: Laurie Anderson "Life on a String" Meat Loaf AGAIN?? Hmmm, this can't be possibly be the infamous Mark Staples, back for more abuse, since there is way too much white space in this message. Plus, Mark would know that coming back a few months after "leaving for good" yet another time would mean that no one here could ever take him seriously about anything. So...welcome back, Rainswept! Later. --Rog BTW, I just got back from seeing GHOST WORLD (recommended, of course), and I couldn't help thinking that the guy in the Alien Autopsy band looked like Scott with flat hair (which of course means that he didn't look like Scott at all). - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:16:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Dana L Paoli wrote: > For those of you who've missed me, I've missed you. For those of you who > did > the Snoopy dance when I departed last, it is my sublime pleasure to be > the > antimatter in your universe. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Just so you'll know though, the rest of the list unsubbed about a week > after you left. They all were pretty ashamed about the way they treated > you, and decided that it was a little too depressing to continue. > Basically I'm the only one left on loud-fans at this point, and I'm > afraid that the only topic for the last few weeks has been "The > Dustdevils: brilliant geniuses or misunderstood geniuses?" If you'd > like to join in, I'll be happy to email you the last 20 messages that I > posted on the topic, just to get you up to speed. The Danabot program was severely corrupted a week or so back, and the consequence was that it became so seriously paranoid that it feared the presence of any more than two other people on the list. However, it appears that whatever corrupted the Danabot is a virus of sorts, since it's been sheer hell trying to keep other bots from flipping their circuits and unsub'ing because they think there are more than two other people on the list. Curiously, however, the Dana virus (as I've christened it) is also very upset when there are *fewer* than two other people on the list...so it's been a very weird, surreal time here. Rumors that actual humans were, at one time, sub'd to this list remain unproven at this date. - --Jeff, licensed surreal estate agent J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::we make everything you need, and you need everything we make:: np: Continental Drifters _Better Day_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:18:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Roger Winston wrote: > At Sunday 8/26/2001 02:01 PM -0400, Vivabonpop@aol.com wrote: > >Can you guess who I am? > about anything. So...welcome back, Rainswept! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <\|/ (;-) Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Top 10, Books this time JeFF: >And as we went through, at great length, half a year or so ago, the >argument re "there's not as much good stuff now," I'll just note I was >arguing that there's no possible way to determine that point, given how >much music (or writing) is produced. Just to make the distinction: I never argued there's not as much good music being *produced* today than before, if by "produced" you mean simply "created," whether it ends up released or not. Of course, people might be creating today's PET SOUNDS and REVOLVER's all over the place but can't get 'em released. In fact, that wouldn't entirely surprise me. And, not to try to reopen the argument, but I think there IS a way to determine that there is not as much good stuff being *released* today as before -- just as many folks are following music today as before, and *generally* people seem simply less excited about what's going on. Fewer records than ever are being hailed as classics, and the level of enthusiasm across the board is lower. I still maintain that the utter disintegration of consensus on Pazz Jop supports this premise, and that it's the most solid supporting evidence that has been produced by either side in this debate. I didn't see the problem with the Hornby piece. The man listened to the Top Ten and said how he felt about it. And, where I've also heard the records he was describing, I agreed with him: they're crap. JS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:01:21 -0400 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: [loud-fans] Electronics Help: in closing... My thanks to all who pointed me in the right direction vis-a-vis my DVD player shopping and my Video cd puzzlement. In the end, the website Douglas sent me to ( it was http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdplayers.php ,for the record) led me away from the RCA player I was considering. After sorting the players by their consumer ratings and finding a trio of Pioneer machines occupying the podium, I went with the number two rated player, the DV-343. I had to mess around a little bit with wires and a modulator to get every piece of my entertainment console to behave, but now it's all shipshape and I didn't have to buy a new tv to replace my venerable 1990 model, as the 19-year old at Radio Shack said I would have to. Always get a second opinion (at least). And my Roxy Music Video Cd plays very nicely, thank you. Gratefully, Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:46:08 EDT From: Vivabonpop@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] I'm BAAACK!!! In a message dated 8/26/01 5:32:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rwinston@tde.com writes: << Plus, Mark would know that coming back a few months after "leaving for good" yet another time would mean that no one here could ever take him seriously about anything. >> I realized that by isolating myself from the entire list because of being too thin-skinned, I was denying myself the pleasures of being on the list. Obviously, I like you all a great deal if I'm willing to swallow my pride and come back after the last time. Also, by leaving for good I was allowing those who wanted me gone to get what they wanted, and well... That just won't do. - -Mark np The Clean "Getaway" "The Scary Friend: Someone who never fails to nudge you out of your comfort zone--way out. Scary does not mean quirky. If a friend likes to spend his weekends re-enacting Civil War battles in period dress, that's quirky. If he shows up at your door in uniform late on a weeknight, that's scary." (from "The 19 Kinds of Friends," the Utne Reader, Sept./Oct.) ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #211 *******************************