From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #194 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, August 12 2001 Volume 01 : Number 194 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] One peef is not enough ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Where's the Peef? [Elizabeth Setler Subject: Re: [loud-fans] One peef is not enough >> np: Paula Carino _Aquacade_ > >Best thing I've heard so far this year by a good distance.... Wow, when did this come out (if it did), and how do I get a copy? Wondering if it can eclipse PUT MY DREAM ON THIS PLANET, Andy By Deb Riechmann Aug. 8, 2001 | WASHINGTON (AP) -- The government is giving audio experts a chance to solve an old mystery of Watergate: What was in that 18 1/2-minute gap on a Nixon tape recorded three days after the break-in. But first the experts have to prove themselves, showing they can really retrieve voices from test recordings that have been erased -- without mangling the original tapes. The National Archives on Wednesday announced ground rules for recording specialists who think they might be able to turn the gap, now a series of clicks, hisses and buzzes, into intelligible speech. "The tests will determine whether they have the technology of retrieving voices -- or whatever was on the original tape, and that the tape will come back to us in its original condition," said archives spokeswoman Susan Cooper. Results of a series of three tests, which sound specialists will have to complete at no cost to the government, will determine whether any actual recovery work will be allowed on the fragile 1972 original. It is stored at 65 degrees in a vault at the archives in College Park, Md. Those who qualify will compete for a contract to do the job. The gap is part of a recording made June 20, 1972, in the old Executive Office Building as Nixon chatted with his chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman. News of the erasure, late the following year, eroded Nixon's credibility at a time when his presidency was unraveling over the June 17, 1972, break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate. Nixon's secretary, Rose Mary Woods, testified that she was transcribing the tape when a phone rang. She said she must have pushed the wrong button and left her foot on a pedal, accidentally recording over part of the original conversation. A panel of experts set up in the 1970s by federal judge John Sirica, who presided over the Watergate criminal trials, concluded that the erasures were done in at least five -- and perhaps as many as nine -- separate and contiguous segments. The panel never figured out what was erased. "One of the reasons we're doing this is because there hasn't been any testing done on this tape for 20 to 25 years and we want to give people the opportunity to demonstrate that they might have the technology to recover the erasures on tape No. 342," said Karl Weissenbach, who is in charge of the former president's tapes, papers and other materials at the archives. "Over the years, scores of people have expressed interest in testing the tape," he said. "It ranges from those who have proven expertise in the broadcast area to individuals working with homemade technology in their basement." Steve St.Croix, an audio expert and president of Intelligent Devices in Baltimore, said the technology exists to recover conversation that's been erased, but only a few experts will likely tackle this job. He says it would require building a special tape recorder with 200 or more playback heads. The heads, he explained, would turn the tape's magnetic information into electronic data that a computer could use to probe deep into the erasure. Steven Smolian, a sound restoration engineer in Frederick, Md., said he's not convinced the newer technology will work on the Nixon tape. And he's not sure who will be willing to invest the time and money needed to pass the tests to qualify for a chance to try. "There are three tests," Smolian said, as if he were telling a children's story about three wishes. "It sounds like a digital fairy tale." [--from http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2001/08/08/watergate/index.html ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon Gabriel Subject: [loud-fans] Where's the Peef? Need to delurk for the peef thread... "Very unique": Since "unique" means "one of a kind," something is either unique or not unique. "A whole nother" "Flush out" instead of "flesh out" "Flaunt the rules" instead of "flout the rules" "110% percent": this one is bad, but now that it is so overused, 110% isn't enough. Most sportscasters now say, "he's giving 150% percent out there. Literally." ===== 777777777777777777777777777777 JON GABRIEL mesa, arizona usa inkling communication + design 777777777777777777777777777777 Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:22:04 -0700 From: Elizabeth Setler Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Where's the Peef? At 5:38 PM -0700 8/11/01, Jon Gabriel wrote: >"A whole nother" Ooh, that's one of mine too - and my biggest problem with it is that I sometimes accidentally say it. My biggest peeve these days - and EVERYBODY does it - is "the reason why." Sometimes, I think I'll wreak subtle vengeance by taking up the phrase "the way how." But then I think, no, it'd just catch on. I once threw a book across a room because it contained the sentence, "He had a sense of deja vu, as if this had all happened before." Oh, THAT kind of deja vu. Thanks! (My career as an abuser of tomes was short-lived; I trotted right over and picked it back up and finished it. But it was fun while it lasted.) - -- Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:12:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Where's the Peef? On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Jon Gabriel wrote: > "Flush out" instead of "flesh out" Can't say I've heard this... I can't think of any other linguini peeves right now - but dammit, I hate web pages that start playing music w/o asking you whether you want to hear it. Once in a while I'll be online late at night, after Rose has gone to sleep, and I'll have forgotten to turn the speakers off. All of a sudden, some idiot insists on having a MIDI version "Send in the Clowns" to accompany his website... Worse yet: when sites don't give you an option to turn the damned noise off. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::does "anal retentive" have a hyphen?:: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:25:00 From: "Brian Block" Subject: [loud-fans] free and recommended album Hi! Tamara Williamson, whose 1999 album UNCONSCIOUS PILOT i quite liked and reviewed well, has released a new album, THE ARMS OF ED, for free download. This doesn't mean she doesn't hope for money for it, it just means that you can try the album for free and, hopefully, you'll want to pay her for it and to tell friends about it. I think it's quite good; i'd recommend it to fans of Emily Bezar, early Sinead O'Connor, Veda Hille, Mia Sheard, or interesting percussion effects. The download and Tamara's introduction to the project are at http://nawa.ineedsugar.com/tamara/music.html best wishes, - -Brian Block "33 rebellions per minute" music reviews http://www.geocities.com/voxpoptart _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:10:51 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] One peef is not enough > >> np: Paula Carino _Aquacade_ > > Wow, when did this come out (if it did), and how do I get a copy? Paula sold advance copies at a gig earlier this year - I believe she was going to use the proceeds to help finish the album. I don't believe there's been an official release, though. - Dan ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #194 *******************************