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loud-fans-digest Thursday, July 12 2001 Volume 01 : Number 158
Today's Subjects:
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Re: [loud-fans] Adam Schmitt? ["Phil Gerrard"
]
[loud-fans] Schmitt/Keene update ["Phil Gerrard" ]
[loud-fans] The medical query [Dana L Paoli ]
[loud-fans] Of possible interest [Jer Fairall ]
Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest [Steve Holtebeck ]
Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest ["Joseph M. Mallon" ]
Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2) [Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com]
Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest [Michael Bowen ]
Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1) ["glenn mcdonald" ]
Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest ["John Sharples" ]
[loud-fans] Review of 'Guitar, Talk, Love & Drums' sent by the excellent Jeff Brenneman ["W. David Barnes" ]
[loud-fans] Beatles? Pikers..... [Cardinal007@aol.com]
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:26:47 +0100
From: "Phil Gerrard"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Adam Schmitt?
Dan wrote:
> > Am I mistaken, or did someone mention recently that a new release by
> > Adam Schmitt would be out soon? I haven't seen anything at the
> > local stores and my internet research hasn't amounted to anything.
>
> You can find info at:
>
> http://www.parasol.com/newsletters/0701newsletter.asp
>
> Parasol says the album will be in stock in the middle of July. - Dan
In addition, Parasol are now taking orders for the Tommy Keene
live album 'Showtunes', which I guess will be of interest to a lot of
loudfans and to Adam Schmitt fans in particular. This one *does*
look definite - check out the following:
http://www.parasol.com/tommykeene/
peace & love
phil
Phil Gerrard
Senior Admissions Officer
The External Programme
University of London
E-mail: p.gerrard@eisa.lon.ac.uk
'Phone: 020 7862 8369
Fax: 020 7862 8363
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:50:10 +0100
From: "Phil Gerrard"
Subject: [loud-fans] Schmitt/Keene update
And if you go to the 'new arrivals' section on the www.parasol.com
page it seems that you can now order both the Tommy Keene and
Adam Schmitt discs for a grand total of $25 altogether including
domestic shipping. Unfortunately, the Parasol checkout screen
appears to be completely messed up at the moment, at least for
international orders - the 'country' field constantly reverts to 'USA',
which is no bloody good to me...
peace & love
phil
Phil Gerrard
Senior Admissions Officer
The External Programme
University of London
E-mail: p.gerrard@eisa.lon.ac.uk
'Phone: 020 7862 8369
Fax: 020 7862 8363
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:37:32 -0500
From: triggercut
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Adam Schmitt?
I know two of the guys who play on the disc, and they said that Adam
*still* isn't done with some final tinkering with it. This was as of
about 10 days ago.
Phil Gerrard wrote:
>
> Dan wrote:
>
> > > Am I mistaken, or did someone mention recently that a new release by
> > > Adam Schmitt would be out soon? I haven't seen anything at the
> > > local stores and my internet research hasn't amounted to anything.
> >
> > You can find info at:
> >
> > http://www.parasol.com/newsletters/0701newsletter.asp
> >
> > Parasol says the album will be in stock in the middle of July. - Dan
>
> In addition, Parasol are now taking orders for the Tommy Keene
> live album 'Showtunes', which I guess will be of interest to a lot of
> loudfans and to Adam Schmitt fans in particular. This one *does*
> look definite - check out the following:
>
> http://www.parasol.com/tommykeene/
>
> peace & love
>
> phil
>
> Phil Gerrard
> Senior Admissions Officer
> The External Programme
> University of London
>
> E-mail: p.gerrard@eisa.lon.ac.uk
> 'Phone: 020 7862 8369
> Fax: 020 7862 8363
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:59:37 -0400
From: Dana L Paoli
Subject: [loud-fans] The medical query
[in response to the question about how to get out of paying a huge ER
bill, I'm posting on-list as the answer is general]
I checked with our hospital's billing department today to ask how to get
out of paying a bill. Their advice: write a letter stating that you
received emergency medical care, that you can't currently afford to pay
for it, and that if your financial situation changes you will pay the
bill. They advise against trying to explicitly bargain, as the hospital
isn't required to do so. It is required to work out reasonable payment
plans and/or discounts for people who have received emergency care but
can't afford to pay for it. And it can't ruin your credit if you're
making a good faith effort to pay.
That's the answer for a New York hospital. I don't know that things
necessarily work the same way in other states.
- --dana
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jer Fairall
Subject: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
The July issue of the UK music magazine UNCUT includes
a 24-track CD of all Beatles covers, including Echo
and the Bunnymen's "Ticket to Ride" and Teenage
Fanclub's "Tell Me What You See" (hence *my*
interest), both of which are exclusive to this
compilation. The rest of the disc is pretty erratic
(everything from Al Green to Tiny Tim to Sioxie & the
Banshees to Peter Sellers) but may be a must for
Beatles enthusiasts.
Jer
np: Amanda Kravat, WRONG ALL DAY
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:47:59 -0700
From: Steve Holtebeck
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
Jer Fairall wrote:
> The July issue of the UK music magazine UNCUT includes
> a 24-track CD of all Beatles covers, including Echo
> and the Bunnymen's "Ticket to Ride" and Teenage
> Fanclub's "Tell Me What You See" (hence *my*
> interest), both of which are exclusive to this
> compilation. The rest of the disc is pretty erratic
> (everything from Al Green to Tiny Tim to Sioxie & the
> Banshees to Peter Sellers) but may be a must for
> Beatles enthusiasts.
I picked this issue/CD up last week, mostly for the Bunnymen and TFC
exclusives, and some of the other songs are fairly erratic, but as far
as CDs given away with magazines go, I think this one has a fairly high
g/c (good-to-crap) ratio.
Here's the whole disc.. I'm kind of a collector of Beatles' covers,
and I'd only heard three of these songs before picking this disc up.
Al Green's "I Want To Hold Your Hand" is *the* definitive cover version
of that song, and not just because he sings "I get high" for "I can't
hide"!
1. Echo and the Bunnymen - Ticket To Ride
2. Lowell Fulson - Why Don't We Do It In The Road
3. 801 (Manzanera/Eno) - Tomorrow Never Knows (live)
4. Teenage Fanclub - Tell Me What You See
5. Otis Redding - Day Tripper (live)
6. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter
7. Nils Lofgren - Anytime At All
8. Junior Parker - Taxman
9. The Damned - Help!
10. Marianne Faithful - I'm A Loser
11. Gene - Don't Let Me Down
12. Al Green - I Want To Hold Your Hand
13. Brave Combo with Tiny Tim - Girl
14. 10cc - Across The Universe
15. Billy Bragg - Revolution
16. Laibach - One After 909
17. Joe Cocker - I'll Cry Instead
18. Ranier - Within You, Without You
19. Chris Farlowe - Yesterday
20. Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel - Here Comes The Sun
21. Peter Sellers - She Loves You
22. Lord Sitar - Blue Jay Way
23. Booker T. & the MGs - I Want You (She's So Heavy)
24. Oasis - Helter Skelter
The magazine also has a poll with the 50 favorite Beatles' songs as
selected by a panel of mostly British superstars. Here's their top 20.
20. Help!
19. Love Me Do
18. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
17. I Want To Hold Your Hand
16. Norwegian Wood
15. Penny Lane
14. Revolution
13. Hey Jude
12. Ticket To Ride
11. Paperback Writer
10. Happiness Is A Warm Gun
9. Helter Skelter
8. Rain
7. Something
6. Across The Universe
5. In My Life
4. Tomorrow Never Knows
3. I Am The Walrus
2. Strawberry Fields Forever
1. A Day In The Life
"They did nothing but arselick for their entire career. They swapped the
Hamburg rent-boy look [for] suits, which I thought was rather poor. They
recorded all their records in fucking EMI studio..They were corporate
arse lickers from the off" -- Luke Haines on the Beatles, as quoted in
UNCUT.
"Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said
quote
- -Steve
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:53:45 -0500
From: Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1)
Jeff mentions:
"Prairie Rose" Roxy Music
This is my sister's favorite song of all time. This is of no particular
sicgnificance to any of you, but that's never stopped me before.
"The Vivian Girls" Snakefinger
This I presume is a reference to headcase artist Henry Darger?
- --D
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:02:08 -0600
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1)
At 03:53 PM 7/11/01 -0500, Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com wrote:
>Jeff mentions:
>
>"Prairie Rose" Roxy Music
>
>This is my sister's favorite song of all time. This is of no particular
>sicgnificance to any of you, but that's never stopped me before.
Equally insignificant: I think this has possibly the coolest-sounding
guitar intro ever.
S
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joseph M. Mallon"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Steve Holtebeck wrote:
> "Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said
> quote
Late of The Auteurs and now of Black Box recorder. Full-time provocateur
& idiot.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:13:42 -0600
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
At 12:47 PM 7/11/01 -0700, Steve Holtebeck wrote:
>6. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter
Too bad, their "Dear Prudence" is one of my all-time favorite Beatles covers.
>13. Brave Combo with Tiny Tim - Girl
This is surprisingly wonderful.
>23. Booker T. & the MGs - I Want You (She's So Heavy)
From the too-wonderful-for-words MCLEMORE AVENUE, one of two R&B covers of
the entire ABBEY ROAD album I know of, the other being George Benson's
Creed Taylor-produced THE OTHER SIDE OF ABBEY ROAD, which isn't as good.
Wes Montgomery's Taylor-produced "A Day in the Life" is a gem.
>"Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said
>quote
Leader of the thoroughly puke-inducing Black Box Recorder (oh, boo hoo wah,
England is such a horrible, soul-destroying place, SO FUCKING EMIGRATE AND
SHUT UP, you whiny little tool) and former leader of the Auteurs.
S
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:17:02 -0500
From: Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2)
More Jeff:
"She Cracked" Jonathan Richman & the Modern Lovers
I know this is an abstraction, but "which version"?
"Curious State" Those Bastard Souls
On Blow Shit Up Day (last Wednesday), I attended a cookout / drinkout (not to be
confused with lockout / tagout) at the home of my friends Rachel and the Kevin
the Bartender. There was a guy there who I recognized, though I couldn't figure
out from where. When we were introduced (and now I can't remember the guy's
name, which weakens this anecdote somewhat), we both swore we recognized each
other, but neither could figure out from where. The evening progressed, and at
some point he put on this crappy straw cowboy hat, at which point it hit me: he
was the bassist from Those Bastard Souls, with whom I'd spoken at length
following a gig in Memphis about a year and a half ago (the Souls, excepting
their violinist, all wore crappy straw cowboy hats that night). I asked him if
this was true; he confirmed it, and said he also played in Califone, who are
half-way o.k., too. He said that he'd just finished recording a new album with
Dave Shouse, but that given Dave's perfectionism and notoriously slow work
pacing, he had no idea when it might be mixed, released, etc. Just in case
anyone was interested.
"Then She Remembers" The Dream Syndicate
Ride "Seagull"
Fine bits of noize, each, these.
- --D
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:36:46 -0400
From: Michael Bowen
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
Thanks for the track listing; I've been waiting for this issue to hit my
local stores for weeks. I'm mildly disappointed that it doesn't have my two
favorite Beatles covers: Steve Hillage's "It's All Too Much" and (blowing
any cred I've ever had) Robert Palmer's "Not A Second Time".
Left off my list of first-half faves: Eliza Carthy, ANGELS AND CIGARETTES
(she outdoes Liz Phair by not only singing about blowjobs, but singing
about blowjobs while her father plays guitar)
Eagerly anticipated: Linda Thompson, GIVE ME A SAD SONG - don't call it a
comeback!
MB
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:32:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Steve Holtebeck wrote:
> 19. Love Me Do
I know it has a certain historical pride of place...but I've never really
liked this song. The rhythm's way too clonky - it's more than halfway to a
polka - and little else about the song is distinctive.
Sharples will have my head...
> "They did nothing but arselick for their entire career. They swapped the
> Hamburg rent-boy look [for] suits, which I thought was rather poor. They
> recorded all their records in fucking EMI studio..They were corporate
> arse lickers from the off" -- Luke Haines on the Beatles, as quoted in
> UNCUT.
>
> "Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said
> quote
Since everyone else is dumping on Mr. Haines, I'll defend him briefly: I
thought the Auteurs were a very fine band (and if Bradley Skaught were on
the list, I know he'd second that), and I even like Black Box Recorder
fairly well. As for whining about one's country: why not? I mean, not that
Stewart would be likely to endorse the phrase, but isn't "fucking shut up
and emigrate" (I may have misplaced the "fucking") apprx. equal to
"America: Love it or Leave it"?
That said, Haines here is clearly working in the time-honored Braggart
English Pop-Star Mode, here pointlessly claiming the Beatles as "sellouts"
- - as if there even *were* any alternative at that time, as if they didn't
transform the record industry in the process, as if...oh hell, the sad
thing is that anyone would take such comments seriously (including
Haines). I think there's some law that in order to get press in the
British music papers, you have to be an asshole.
- --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey
J e f f r e y N o r m a n
The Architectural Dance Society
www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html
::beliefs are ideas going bald::
__Francis Picabia__
np: Belle da Gama _Garden Abstract_: why don't you own this?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:36:47 EDT
From: Cardinal007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
In a message dated 7/11/01 6:48:52 PM, mbowen@frontiernet.net writes, about
Eliza Carthy:
>singing
>about blowjobs while her father plays guitar
Ahhhh, shit; there goes my act.
Has anyone on the list seen the GoGos yet?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:43:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2)
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com wrote:
> More Jeff:
> "She Cracked" Jonathan Richman & the Modern Lovers
>
> I know this is an abstraction, but "which version"?
The earlier demo, with the radio solo - way better than the "official"
release.
> "Then She Remembers" The Dream Syndicate
>
> Ride "Seagull"
Yeah...part of my mission in making these tapes is (a) digging through
older stuff that I may have forgotten and (b) forcing other people to
listen to it.
That whole Dream Syndicate album just outright smokes... I know Steve
Wynn's lyrics have improved, and he's moved way beyond the bad-ass redneck
Reed of the DS days, but for sheer musical head-flattening, nothing he's
done ever has beaten this (largely due to Karl Precoda's "if it's loud
enough, it sure as fuck must be in tune" guitar work). Oh yeah...and
what's that quiet song Kendra Smith sings? Devastating...
And what the hell happened to Ride? Last I heard - what, five yars ago? -
they were hiring on children's choirs and trying to run Love, the Zombies,
and Small Faces through a blender. But here, they just amplify the
blender, somehow get it to play notes, have the drummer impersonate an
octopus in a hurricane, and then - genius - throw these gorgeous
three-part vocal harmonies on top of the whole mess. Also: elsewhere, best
cover of VU's "European Son" ever (uhhh, how many are there?), with an
opening blast of feedback that feels pretty much exactly like a sadistic
dentist piercing a nerve with a Black and Decker.
- --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey
J e f f r e y N o r m a n
The Architectural Dance Society
www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html
::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me?
__Captain Beefheart__
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:47:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1)
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com wrote:
> "The Vivian Girls" Snakefinger
>
> This I presume is a reference to headcase artist Henry Darger?
Oops - forgot to incorporate in the other message.
Yeah...I almost put all three songs (!) called "Vivian Girls" on the tape,
but restrained myself...and instead represented all three artists. Aside
from Snakefinger, there's Mazarin and Seely. Snakefinger's song beats the
others by nearly twenty years, though. What that says about the late Mr.
Lithman's tastes, I cannot say.
- --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey
J e f f r e y N o r m a n
The Architectural Dance Society
www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html
::Californians invented the concept of the life-style.
::This alone warrants their doom.
__Don DeLillo, WHITE NOISE__
np: Mark Eitzel _The Invisible Man_
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:59:30 -0700
From: Elizabeth Setler
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2)
At 7:43 PM -0500 7/11/01, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote:
>That whole Dream Syndicate album just outright smokes... I know Steve
>Wynn's lyrics have improved, and he's moved way beyond the bad-ass redneck
>Reed of the DS days, but for sheer musical head-flattening, nothing he's
>done ever has beaten this (largely due to Karl Precoda's "if it's loud
>enough, it sure as fuck must be in tune" guitar work). Oh yeah...and
what's that quiet song Kendra Smith sings? Devastating...
Does anyone happen to remember a review of this album that was
printed somewhere which read, basically, "If you don't like this
album, fuck you"? It was my favorite review EVER, and I've been
tempted to steal it a few times. But I can't remember from whence it
came. (Not that I would need to know that to steal it, but at least I
could reference it if I felt so compelled. Which is all I would
really do anyway, being a compulsive law-abider.)
Scott content, just for kicks: Thanks to a team of dedicated
volunteers who have been prowling used-CD stores the world over on my
behalf, I have now accumulated an impressive *two* Game Theory CDs.
My backwards Scott Miller education is taking shape nicely... :-)
- --
Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:26:10 -0700
From: "Andrew Hamlin"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
>Thanks for the track listing; I've been waiting for this issue to hit my
>local stores for weeks. I'm mildly disappointed that it doesn't have my two
>favorite Beatles covers: Steve Hillage's "It's All Too Much" and (blowing
>any cred I've ever had) Robert Palmer's "Not A Second Time".
Wondering how Hillage stacks up against Journey.
Palmer may have been the only one to cover "Not A Second Time," but he's had
sizzlingly bountiful taste in other people's songs. The Gap Band, in the
name of Jesus?
(Sporting still some sniggling suspicion SNEAKIN' SALLY THROUGH THE ALLEY
scintillatingly suspires)
Andy
p.s. My own two favorite Beatle covers: Mary McCaslin's "Things We Said
Today" and the Residents' "Flying"--which I only heard once, but I recall as
sounding like a bar fight.
"It would appear this person had a negative experience."
- --Ely Zero III on http://www.pianocraftguild.org/
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:20:47 EDT
From: Cardinal007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
In a message dated 7/11/01 9:41:06 PM, zoom@speakeasy.org writes:
>Palmer may have been the only one to cover "Not A Second Time," but he's
>had
>
>sizzlingly bountiful taste in other people's songs.
Palmer's cover of "New Day Rising," with which he *opened* a Merriwether Post
Pavillion show in approx. 1987, was a staple on tour for years, and was
blistering. I like "blistering" when I'd otherwise type "bloated."
It was a perfect choice, as Palmer has hit only three notes in his entire
life, and prefers to stay on one. Gahd bless him.
"Blistering." "Sizzling." Summer has has landed..........
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:37:54 -0400
From: "glenn mcdonald"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
> Leader of the thoroughly puke-inducing Black Box Recorder
That must be my cue to toss in another recommendation for Black Box
Recorder's second album _The Facts of Life_, which came out in the UK last
year but was released here only a couple months ago, with a couple excellent
bonus tracks to reward your patience (or, in my case, my repeat-buying
dollars...). Lovely.
glenn
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:39:38 -0400
From: "glenn mcdonald"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1)
> "Prairie Rose" Roxy Music
Covered, for those who like that sort of thing, by both Then Jerico and Big
Country.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:37:51 -0400
From: "John Sharples"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
SH:
>Here's the whole disc.. I'm kind of a collector of Beatles' covers,
>and I'd only heard three of these songs before picking this disc up.
You'd think I'd be into Beatles covers but I'm really not. Probably for the
same reason I'm not really into their own alternate versions or live
takes--I'm not sure they were such great songwriters, I think they wrote
great *records*, and that just as large a part of "writing" those records as
writing the "songs" was getting the sounds, takes, and mixes *just right.*
But I've heard a zillion Fabs cover and I'm hear to tell you that there is
no contest which is the best: Ray Charles' "Yesterday."
>Al Green's "I Want To Hold Your Hand" is *the* definitive cover version
>of that song, and not just because he sings "I get high" for "I can't
>hide"!
Do you think he knew the Dylan story, or just had the same
misinterpretation?
JS
"The Beatles were thick and ordinary." - Grahame Davies
(but their disciples were okay!)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:48:20 -0400
From: "John Sharples"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
JFF:
>I know it has a certain historical pride of place...but I've never really
>liked this song. The rhythm's way too clonky - it's more than halfway to a
>polka - and little else about the song is distinctive.
>
>Sharples will have my head...
Well, yes I will, but not because of this. I don't like Love Me Do. But
funny thing, Albert Goldman of all people loves the blues harp on that, goes
on and on about young Jocko Lennon, the hills of Scotland, Delbert McClinton
and the mournful wailing and he convinced me....damn it, it's *distinctive*.
Still it's asinine that this (#17) is on ONE and not Please Please Me (first
#1).
JS
np: Golden Earring TO THE HILT. Cool album. Know it?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:55:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmw
Subject: [loud-fans] all out of clever subject lines
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Andrew Hamlin wrote:
> i had it all figured out - use a light sensor to know when the person is no
> longer in the restroom, then take a reading off the bowl. if it's bright,
> it's clean - if not, it's dirty. if dirty, take a snapshot with the webcam,
> open a window an all desktops with the picture and a comment - "Is This
> Yours?" my boss didn't go for the plan, sadly.
>
> [--Brianna Bradley]
get something together that reliably catches the guy rolling up the
newspaper and sticking it down the bowl, and i WILL raise the VC. current
economic climate for tech bedamne3d.
my 1/2yr list is STILL topped by Little Champions _Transactions +
Replications_, and by now someone else (hint, hint) ought to be able to
support or repudiate the claim. No one else ever mentions House of Large
Sizes' _Idiots Out Wandering Around_, either, so I will again. & you
don't have to agree with danaboy's politics completely to fall in love w/
Unwound.
I'm a woman with 80% certainty, right between a cloud of blue dots and a
cloud of pink dots. Nice that I figure this out when I'm dating a
straight woman for the first time in years. Fortunately, she's blissfully
ignorant of my gender.
I thought Rachael Sage's _Painting of a Painting_ was really dreadfully
bad, but at least I felt meanspirited for not liking it.
I liked the Auteurs and I like Black Box Recorder. If I thought I could
get a lot of press notice for spewing vitrolic lies about people with much
more talent than I, though, I'd do it in a heartbeat. ("Scott Miller!
What an unimaginative sod. A 'decade' of 'exactly what we don't want to
hear' is right!")
It was great to be at the show last Sat., meet the Loudfans I hadn't met
before, etc. Thanks to Matt for setting up dinner & I'm sorry we
were so late. Anton is as good as everyone says, anyone who wishes R.
Hitchcock still didn't repeat himself should check him out. THe highlight
for me, though, was definitely the Miller/Kessel run through "Paranoid."
Woo!
- -- the kinder, gentler d.
= i am made of fuzz. i am unthreatening. i accept what i am | dmw@
= given. i have beady plastic eyes. i am scaring myself. |radix.net
= pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:00:56 -0700
From: "W. David Barnes"
Subject: [loud-fans] Review of 'Guitar, Talk, Love & Drums' sent by the excellent Jeff Brenneman
Okay, where to start here...First off, sorry for taking so long to write
this review. Part of it's being on vacation, part of it's just loving the
music too much to want to find words to describe it and part of it's reading
everyone else's elegant and intelligent posts and feeling a small bit
intimidated. There...(and onward!).
Grant Lee Buffalo, 'Fine How'd You Do' and 'Mockingbirds': Preferred the
first cut here by a lot. 'Mockingbirds' recalled Robert Plant the first
time I heard it (circa Dripping Honeybirds? Something like that?). The
crooner, not the screamer.
Mystery Machine, 'Doubter' and 'Fool': This was one of the three CDs I
bought within days of getting this mix. Both of these songs have that trace
of something familiar (good familiar) that reminds my why I love pop music.
Of the two, I preferred 'Doubter'; 'Fool' reminded me of Weezer in it's
straightforwardness (is that a word?) which is cool because I like that...
Old '97s, 'Murder (or a heart attack)' and 'Busted Afternoon': I would guess
that this be alt-country. Well-played and earnest but not really my cup of
tea. Sure would sound good on a road trip with a bottle of mysterious green
liquid though...'Busted Afternoon' might grow on me after a bit.
Fountains of Wayne, 'Survival Car' and 'Barbara H.': Hey, something I have!
Not only that, but one of the reasons I bought it was because of 'Survival
Car' when all along I should have been listening to 'Barbara H.' (who hates
songs that never seem to go away). And some songs never should...
Ryan Adams, 'My Winding Wheel' and 'Come Pick Me Up': These are both
beautiful songs. Sung and played with the sort of conviction that defy
typecasting. I thought of this as being more alt-country but this could jut
be the straight stuff. I really like his voice and the playing behind him
is inspired. Anyone seen him (or Whiskytown) live?
Drowners, 'Is There Something on Your Mind' and 'One Star': Okay, good, not
very exciting. By the numbers rock and roll ('Is There Something') with
'One Star' a bit more interesting. Hmm, maybe a lot more interesting...
Zumpano, 'The Sylvia Hotel and 'Some Sun': Not a lot of interest for either
one of these. Okay but not a lot there for me.
Owsley, 'I'm Alright' and 'Good Old Days': Jeff's mix CD was playing on the
4th of July while I was getting food ready for a barbecue. These songs came
on and I stopped and played them over and over for a good little while I
(and he?) cooked. These two songs are paired well together, showcasing a
variety of talents. Good songwriting and singing and no stupid solos (which
I expected in 'I'm Alright and didn't expect in 'Good Old Days'). Tasteful
and tasty stuff.
Stew, 'Re-hab' and 'C'mon Everybody': This was not to be expected
('Re-hab'). This is as near as I can figure to a perfect song. Funny and
wistful and oh, so true...As spot on as everything that seems to come from
the man (okay, I bought his CD and both of The Negro Problem CDs). 'C'mon
Everybody' turns up the heat a notch and admirably so...
Churchills, 'Gonna Take a Lot to Stay' and 'Wrong Side of the Bed': More
power pop and suffers a bit from following Stew. I liked both of these okay
but not enough to buy. Now, is that valid criticism?
Josie and the Pussycats, 'Spin Around': I just keep thinking about the whole
Betty and Veronica thing and not the song. I guess that says it all.
Thanks for the opportunity, I promise to do better next time and that's
about it from my house....
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:12:53 -0400
From: "glenn mcdonald"
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Review of 'Guitar, Talk, Love & Drums' sent by the excellent Jeff Brenneman
How could you call a mix-tape that and not include the Gary Myrick song?!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:52:23 -0600
From: Roger Winston
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] all out of clever subject lines
At Wednesday 7/11/2001 11:55 PM -0400, dmw wrote:
>my 1/2yr list is STILL topped by Little Champions _Transactions +
>Replications_, and by now someone else (hint, hint) ought to be able to
>support or repudiate the claim.
doug is referring to me, since I picked this up in his presence for $4.95
at Amoeba. But unfortunately I have yet to listen to it. I'll still
working my way through like a zillion Anton Barbeau odds-and-end and live
records (the man is *prolific*). Stay tuned.
>It was great to be at the show last Sat., meet the Loudfans I hadn't met
>before, etc. Thanks to Matt for setting up dinner & I'm sorry we
>were so late.
That was pretty much my fault. Me and the cockamamie California street
numbering system. And oh yeah, I'm really bad with subways also. Give me
a car and I'm fine. But this walking and mass transit stuff is for the
birds. Or it would be, if they couldn't fly. Thank God I'm back home in
Denver where there is no mass transit.
Later. --Rog
- -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:50:36 -0400
From: Dan Sallitt
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest
> Still it's asinine that this (#17) is on ONE and not Please Please Me (first
> #1).
I have trouble with any list of best Beatles songs that doesn't lnclude
"She Loves You" and "Please Please Me." Seems to me the early Beatles
songs are still underrated vis a vis the others. - Dan
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:36:58 EDT
From: Cardinal007@aol.com
Subject: [loud-fans] Beatles? Pikers.....
You know, as I sit here cleaning handguns and wondering when Sharples will
arrive to explain why a mediocre [yet distinctive] harmonica bit on a slight
song is noteworthy, I stop and bow to the Beatles. Four slight young men
battling mighty odds [not *quite * the known universe, as a few showed they
could survive], and succeeding.
Had anyone else heard of them before this magazine came out?
I hear there are some obscure bootlegs available by these Beatles. Does
anyone know if that's true?
PS Does anyone else own the [only] Professionals album? Wanna go offline
for a circle jerk?
Thick and ordinary am I.
Speak like Yoda, I.
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