From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #158 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, July 12 2001 Volume 01 : Number 158 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Adam Schmitt? ["Phil Gerrard" ] [loud-fans] Schmitt/Keene update ["Phil Gerrard" ] [loud-fans] The medical query [Dana L Paoli ] [loud-fans] Of possible interest [Jer Fairall ] Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2) [Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com] Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1) ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest ["John Sharples" ] [loud-fans] Review of 'Guitar, Talk, Love & Drums' sent by the excellent Jeff Brenneman ["W. David Barnes" ] [loud-fans] Beatles? Pikers..... [Cardinal007@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:26:47 +0100 From: "Phil Gerrard" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Adam Schmitt? Dan wrote: > > Am I mistaken, or did someone mention recently that a new release by > > Adam Schmitt would be out soon? I haven't seen anything at the > > local stores and my internet research hasn't amounted to anything. > > You can find info at: > > http://www.parasol.com/newsletters/0701newsletter.asp > > Parasol says the album will be in stock in the middle of July. - Dan In addition, Parasol are now taking orders for the Tommy Keene live album 'Showtunes', which I guess will be of interest to a lot of loudfans and to Adam Schmitt fans in particular. This one *does* look definite - check out the following: http://www.parasol.com/tommykeene/ peace & love phil Phil Gerrard Senior Admissions Officer The External Programme University of London E-mail: p.gerrard@eisa.lon.ac.uk 'Phone: 020 7862 8369 Fax: 020 7862 8363 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:50:10 +0100 From: "Phil Gerrard" Subject: [loud-fans] Schmitt/Keene update And if you go to the 'new arrivals' section on the www.parasol.com page it seems that you can now order both the Tommy Keene and Adam Schmitt discs for a grand total of $25 altogether including domestic shipping. Unfortunately, the Parasol checkout screen appears to be completely messed up at the moment, at least for international orders - the 'country' field constantly reverts to 'USA', which is no bloody good to me... peace & love phil Phil Gerrard Senior Admissions Officer The External Programme University of London E-mail: p.gerrard@eisa.lon.ac.uk 'Phone: 020 7862 8369 Fax: 020 7862 8363 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:37:32 -0500 From: triggercut Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Adam Schmitt? I know two of the guys who play on the disc, and they said that Adam *still* isn't done with some final tinkering with it. This was as of about 10 days ago. Phil Gerrard wrote: > > Dan wrote: > > > > Am I mistaken, or did someone mention recently that a new release by > > > Adam Schmitt would be out soon? I haven't seen anything at the > > > local stores and my internet research hasn't amounted to anything. > > > > You can find info at: > > > > http://www.parasol.com/newsletters/0701newsletter.asp > > > > Parasol says the album will be in stock in the middle of July. - Dan > > In addition, Parasol are now taking orders for the Tommy Keene > live album 'Showtunes', which I guess will be of interest to a lot of > loudfans and to Adam Schmitt fans in particular. This one *does* > look definite - check out the following: > > http://www.parasol.com/tommykeene/ > > peace & love > > phil > > Phil Gerrard > Senior Admissions Officer > The External Programme > University of London > > E-mail: p.gerrard@eisa.lon.ac.uk > 'Phone: 020 7862 8369 > Fax: 020 7862 8363 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:59:37 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] The medical query [in response to the question about how to get out of paying a huge ER bill, I'm posting on-list as the answer is general] I checked with our hospital's billing department today to ask how to get out of paying a bill. Their advice: write a letter stating that you received emergency medical care, that you can't currently afford to pay for it, and that if your financial situation changes you will pay the bill. They advise against trying to explicitly bargain, as the hospital isn't required to do so. It is required to work out reasonable payment plans and/or discounts for people who have received emergency care but can't afford to pay for it. And it can't ruin your credit if you're making a good faith effort to pay. That's the answer for a New York hospital. I don't know that things necessarily work the same way in other states. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jer Fairall Subject: [loud-fans] Of possible interest The July issue of the UK music magazine UNCUT includes a 24-track CD of all Beatles covers, including Echo and the Bunnymen's "Ticket to Ride" and Teenage Fanclub's "Tell Me What You See" (hence *my* interest), both of which are exclusive to this compilation. The rest of the disc is pretty erratic (everything from Al Green to Tiny Tim to Sioxie & the Banshees to Peter Sellers) but may be a must for Beatles enthusiasts. Jer np: Amanda Kravat, WRONG ALL DAY ===== Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:47:59 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest Jer Fairall wrote: > The July issue of the UK music magazine UNCUT includes > a 24-track CD of all Beatles covers, including Echo > and the Bunnymen's "Ticket to Ride" and Teenage > Fanclub's "Tell Me What You See" (hence *my* > interest), both of which are exclusive to this > compilation. The rest of the disc is pretty erratic > (everything from Al Green to Tiny Tim to Sioxie & the > Banshees to Peter Sellers) but may be a must for > Beatles enthusiasts. I picked this issue/CD up last week, mostly for the Bunnymen and TFC exclusives, and some of the other songs are fairly erratic, but as far as CDs given away with magazines go, I think this one has a fairly high g/c (good-to-crap) ratio. Here's the whole disc.. I'm kind of a collector of Beatles' covers, and I'd only heard three of these songs before picking this disc up. Al Green's "I Want To Hold Your Hand" is *the* definitive cover version of that song, and not just because he sings "I get high" for "I can't hide"! 1. Echo and the Bunnymen - Ticket To Ride 2. Lowell Fulson - Why Don't We Do It In The Road 3. 801 (Manzanera/Eno) - Tomorrow Never Knows (live) 4. Teenage Fanclub - Tell Me What You See 5. Otis Redding - Day Tripper (live) 6. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter 7. Nils Lofgren - Anytime At All 8. Junior Parker - Taxman 9. The Damned - Help! 10. Marianne Faithful - I'm A Loser 11. Gene - Don't Let Me Down 12. Al Green - I Want To Hold Your Hand 13. Brave Combo with Tiny Tim - Girl 14. 10cc - Across The Universe 15. Billy Bragg - Revolution 16. Laibach - One After 909 17. Joe Cocker - I'll Cry Instead 18. Ranier - Within You, Without You 19. Chris Farlowe - Yesterday 20. Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel - Here Comes The Sun 21. Peter Sellers - She Loves You 22. Lord Sitar - Blue Jay Way 23. Booker T. & the MGs - I Want You (She's So Heavy) 24. Oasis - Helter Skelter The magazine also has a poll with the 50 favorite Beatles' songs as selected by a panel of mostly British superstars. Here's their top 20. 20. Help! 19. Love Me Do 18. While My Guitar Gently Weeps 17. I Want To Hold Your Hand 16. Norwegian Wood 15. Penny Lane 14. Revolution 13. Hey Jude 12. Ticket To Ride 11. Paperback Writer 10. Happiness Is A Warm Gun 9. Helter Skelter 8. Rain 7. Something 6. Across The Universe 5. In My Life 4. Tomorrow Never Knows 3. I Am The Walrus 2. Strawberry Fields Forever 1. A Day In The Life "They did nothing but arselick for their entire career. They swapped the Hamburg rent-boy look [for] suits, which I thought was rather poor. They recorded all their records in fucking EMI studio..They were corporate arse lickers from the off" -- Luke Haines on the Beatles, as quoted in UNCUT. "Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said quote - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:53:45 -0500 From: Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1) Jeff mentions: "Prairie Rose" Roxy Music This is my sister's favorite song of all time. This is of no particular sicgnificance to any of you, but that's never stopped me before. "The Vivian Girls" Snakefinger This I presume is a reference to headcase artist Henry Darger? - --D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:02:08 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1) At 03:53 PM 7/11/01 -0500, Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com wrote: >Jeff mentions: > >"Prairie Rose" Roxy Music > >This is my sister's favorite song of all time. This is of no particular >sicgnificance to any of you, but that's never stopped me before. Equally insignificant: I think this has possibly the coolest-sounding guitar intro ever. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Steve Holtebeck wrote: > "Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said > quote Late of The Auteurs and now of Black Box recorder. Full-time provocateur & idiot. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:13:42 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest At 12:47 PM 7/11/01 -0700, Steve Holtebeck wrote: >6. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter Too bad, their "Dear Prudence" is one of my all-time favorite Beatles covers. >13. Brave Combo with Tiny Tim - Girl This is surprisingly wonderful. >23. Booker T. & the MGs - I Want You (She's So Heavy) From the too-wonderful-for-words MCLEMORE AVENUE, one of two R&B covers of the entire ABBEY ROAD album I know of, the other being George Benson's Creed Taylor-produced THE OTHER SIDE OF ABBEY ROAD, which isn't as good. Wes Montgomery's Taylor-produced "A Day in the Life" is a gem. >"Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said >quote Leader of the thoroughly puke-inducing Black Box Recorder (oh, boo hoo wah, England is such a horrible, soul-destroying place, SO FUCKING EMIGRATE AND SHUT UP, you whiny little tool) and former leader of the Auteurs. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:17:02 -0500 From: Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2) More Jeff: "She Cracked" Jonathan Richman & the Modern Lovers I know this is an abstraction, but "which version"? "Curious State" Those Bastard Souls On Blow Shit Up Day (last Wednesday), I attended a cookout / drinkout (not to be confused with lockout / tagout) at the home of my friends Rachel and the Kevin the Bartender. There was a guy there who I recognized, though I couldn't figure out from where. When we were introduced (and now I can't remember the guy's name, which weakens this anecdote somewhat), we both swore we recognized each other, but neither could figure out from where. The evening progressed, and at some point he put on this crappy straw cowboy hat, at which point it hit me: he was the bassist from Those Bastard Souls, with whom I'd spoken at length following a gig in Memphis about a year and a half ago (the Souls, excepting their violinist, all wore crappy straw cowboy hats that night). I asked him if this was true; he confirmed it, and said he also played in Califone, who are half-way o.k., too. He said that he'd just finished recording a new album with Dave Shouse, but that given Dave's perfectionism and notoriously slow work pacing, he had no idea when it might be mixed, released, etc. Just in case anyone was interested. "Then She Remembers" The Dream Syndicate Ride "Seagull" Fine bits of noize, each, these. - --D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:36:46 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest Thanks for the track listing; I've been waiting for this issue to hit my local stores for weeks. I'm mildly disappointed that it doesn't have my two favorite Beatles covers: Steve Hillage's "It's All Too Much" and (blowing any cred I've ever had) Robert Palmer's "Not A Second Time". Left off my list of first-half faves: Eliza Carthy, ANGELS AND CIGARETTES (she outdoes Liz Phair by not only singing about blowjobs, but singing about blowjobs while her father plays guitar) Eagerly anticipated: Linda Thompson, GIVE ME A SAD SONG - don't call it a comeback! MB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:32:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Steve Holtebeck wrote: > 19. Love Me Do I know it has a certain historical pride of place...but I've never really liked this song. The rhythm's way too clonky - it's more than halfway to a polka - and little else about the song is distinctive. Sharples will have my head... > "They did nothing but arselick for their entire career. They swapped the > Hamburg rent-boy look [for] suits, which I thought was rather poor. They > recorded all their records in fucking EMI studio..They were corporate > arse lickers from the off" -- Luke Haines on the Beatles, as quoted in > UNCUT. > > "Who the f-- is Luke Haines??" -- Me, to Myself, after reading said > quote Since everyone else is dumping on Mr. Haines, I'll defend him briefly: I thought the Auteurs were a very fine band (and if Bradley Skaught were on the list, I know he'd second that), and I even like Black Box Recorder fairly well. As for whining about one's country: why not? I mean, not that Stewart would be likely to endorse the phrase, but isn't "fucking shut up and emigrate" (I may have misplaced the "fucking") apprx. equal to "America: Love it or Leave it"? That said, Haines here is clearly working in the time-honored Braggart English Pop-Star Mode, here pointlessly claiming the Beatles as "sellouts" - - as if there even *were* any alternative at that time, as if they didn't transform the record industry in the process, as if...oh hell, the sad thing is that anyone would take such comments seriously (including Haines). I think there's some law that in order to get press in the British music papers, you have to be an asshole. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::beliefs are ideas going bald:: __Francis Picabia__ np: Belle da Gama _Garden Abstract_: why don't you own this? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:36:47 EDT From: Cardinal007@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest In a message dated 7/11/01 6:48:52 PM, mbowen@frontiernet.net writes, about Eliza Carthy: >singing >about blowjobs while her father plays guitar Ahhhh, shit; there goes my act. Has anyone on the list seen the GoGos yet? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:43:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2) On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com wrote: > More Jeff: > "She Cracked" Jonathan Richman & the Modern Lovers > > I know this is an abstraction, but "which version"? The earlier demo, with the radio solo - way better than the "official" release. > "Then She Remembers" The Dream Syndicate > > Ride "Seagull" Yeah...part of my mission in making these tapes is (a) digging through older stuff that I may have forgotten and (b) forcing other people to listen to it. That whole Dream Syndicate album just outright smokes... I know Steve Wynn's lyrics have improved, and he's moved way beyond the bad-ass redneck Reed of the DS days, but for sheer musical head-flattening, nothing he's done ever has beaten this (largely due to Karl Precoda's "if it's loud enough, it sure as fuck must be in tune" guitar work). Oh yeah...and what's that quiet song Kendra Smith sings? Devastating... And what the hell happened to Ride? Last I heard - what, five yars ago? - they were hiring on children's choirs and trying to run Love, the Zombies, and Small Faces through a blender. But here, they just amplify the blender, somehow get it to play notes, have the drummer impersonate an octopus in a hurricane, and then - genius - throw these gorgeous three-part vocal harmonies on top of the whole mess. Also: elsewhere, best cover of VU's "European Son" ever (uhhh, how many are there?), with an opening blast of feedback that feels pretty much exactly like a sadistic dentist piercing a nerve with a Black and Decker. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:47:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1) On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com wrote: > "The Vivian Girls" Snakefinger > > This I presume is a reference to headcase artist Henry Darger? Oops - forgot to incorporate in the other message. Yeah...I almost put all three songs (!) called "Vivian Girls" on the tape, but restrained myself...and instead represented all three artists. Aside from Snakefinger, there's Mazarin and Seely. Snakefinger's song beats the others by nearly twenty years, though. What that says about the late Mr. Lithman's tastes, I cannot say. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Californians invented the concept of the life-style. ::This alone warrants their doom. __Don DeLillo, WHITE NOISE__ np: Mark Eitzel _The Invisible Man_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:59:30 -0700 From: Elizabeth Setler Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (2) At 7:43 PM -0500 7/11/01, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >That whole Dream Syndicate album just outright smokes... I know Steve >Wynn's lyrics have improved, and he's moved way beyond the bad-ass redneck >Reed of the DS days, but for sheer musical head-flattening, nothing he's >done ever has beaten this (largely due to Karl Precoda's "if it's loud >enough, it sure as fuck must be in tune" guitar work). Oh yeah...and what's that quiet song Kendra Smith sings? Devastating... Does anyone happen to remember a review of this album that was printed somewhere which read, basically, "If you don't like this album, fuck you"? It was my favorite review EVER, and I've been tempted to steal it a few times. But I can't remember from whence it came. (Not that I would need to know that to steal it, but at least I could reference it if I felt so compelled. Which is all I would really do anyway, being a compulsive law-abider.) Scott content, just for kicks: Thanks to a team of dedicated volunteers who have been prowling used-CD stores the world over on my behalf, I have now accumulated an impressive *two* Game Theory CDs. My backwards Scott Miller education is taking shape nicely... :-) - -- Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:26:10 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest >Thanks for the track listing; I've been waiting for this issue to hit my >local stores for weeks. I'm mildly disappointed that it doesn't have my two >favorite Beatles covers: Steve Hillage's "It's All Too Much" and (blowing >any cred I've ever had) Robert Palmer's "Not A Second Time". Wondering how Hillage stacks up against Journey. Palmer may have been the only one to cover "Not A Second Time," but he's had sizzlingly bountiful taste in other people's songs. The Gap Band, in the name of Jesus? (Sporting still some sniggling suspicion SNEAKIN' SALLY THROUGH THE ALLEY scintillatingly suspires) Andy p.s. My own two favorite Beatle covers: Mary McCaslin's "Things We Said Today" and the Residents' "Flying"--which I only heard once, but I recall as sounding like a bar fight. "It would appear this person had a negative experience." - --Ely Zero III on http://www.pianocraftguild.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:20:47 EDT From: Cardinal007@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest In a message dated 7/11/01 9:41:06 PM, zoom@speakeasy.org writes: >Palmer may have been the only one to cover "Not A Second Time," but he's >had > >sizzlingly bountiful taste in other people's songs. Palmer's cover of "New Day Rising," with which he *opened* a Merriwether Post Pavillion show in approx. 1987, was a staple on tour for years, and was blistering. I like "blistering" when I'd otherwise type "bloated." It was a perfect choice, as Palmer has hit only three notes in his entire life, and prefers to stay on one. Gahd bless him. "Blistering." "Sizzling." Summer has has landed.......... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:37:54 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest > Leader of the thoroughly puke-inducing Black Box Recorder That must be my cue to toss in another recommendation for Black Box Recorder's second album _The Facts of Life_, which came out in the UK last year but was released here only a couple months ago, with a couple excellent bonus tracks to reward your patience (or, in my case, my repeat-buying dollars...). Lovely. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:39:38 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PSA w/gtr (1) > "Prairie Rose" Roxy Music Covered, for those who like that sort of thing, by both Then Jerico and Big Country. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:37:51 -0400 From: "John Sharples" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest SH: >Here's the whole disc.. I'm kind of a collector of Beatles' covers, >and I'd only heard three of these songs before picking this disc up. You'd think I'd be into Beatles covers but I'm really not. Probably for the same reason I'm not really into their own alternate versions or live takes--I'm not sure they were such great songwriters, I think they wrote great *records*, and that just as large a part of "writing" those records as writing the "songs" was getting the sounds, takes, and mixes *just right.* But I've heard a zillion Fabs cover and I'm hear to tell you that there is no contest which is the best: Ray Charles' "Yesterday." >Al Green's "I Want To Hold Your Hand" is *the* definitive cover version >of that song, and not just because he sings "I get high" for "I can't >hide"! Do you think he knew the Dylan story, or just had the same misinterpretation? JS "The Beatles were thick and ordinary." - Grahame Davies (but their disciples were okay!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:48:20 -0400 From: "John Sharples" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest JFF: >I know it has a certain historical pride of place...but I've never really >liked this song. The rhythm's way too clonky - it's more than halfway to a >polka - and little else about the song is distinctive. > >Sharples will have my head... Well, yes I will, but not because of this. I don't like Love Me Do. But funny thing, Albert Goldman of all people loves the blues harp on that, goes on and on about young Jocko Lennon, the hills of Scotland, Delbert McClinton and the mournful wailing and he convinced me....damn it, it's *distinctive*. Still it's asinine that this (#17) is on ONE and not Please Please Me (first #1). JS np: Golden Earring TO THE HILT. Cool album. Know it? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:55:44 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] all out of clever subject lines On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > i had it all figured out - use a light sensor to know when the person is no > longer in the restroom, then take a reading off the bowl. if it's bright, > it's clean - if not, it's dirty. if dirty, take a snapshot with the webcam, > open a window an all desktops with the picture and a comment - "Is This > Yours?" my boss didn't go for the plan, sadly. > > [--Brianna Bradley] get something together that reliably catches the guy rolling up the newspaper and sticking it down the bowl, and i WILL raise the VC. current economic climate for tech bedamne3d. my 1/2yr list is STILL topped by Little Champions _Transactions + Replications_, and by now someone else (hint, hint) ought to be able to support or repudiate the claim. No one else ever mentions House of Large Sizes' _Idiots Out Wandering Around_, either, so I will again. & you don't have to agree with danaboy's politics completely to fall in love w/ Unwound. I'm a woman with 80% certainty, right between a cloud of blue dots and a cloud of pink dots. Nice that I figure this out when I'm dating a straight woman for the first time in years. Fortunately, she's blissfully ignorant of my gender. I thought Rachael Sage's _Painting of a Painting_ was really dreadfully bad, but at least I felt meanspirited for not liking it. I liked the Auteurs and I like Black Box Recorder. If I thought I could get a lot of press notice for spewing vitrolic lies about people with much more talent than I, though, I'd do it in a heartbeat. ("Scott Miller! What an unimaginative sod. A 'decade' of 'exactly what we don't want to hear' is right!") It was great to be at the show last Sat., meet the Loudfans I hadn't met before, etc. Thanks to Matt for setting up dinner & I'm sorry we were so late. Anton is as good as everyone says, anyone who wishes R. Hitchcock still didn't repeat himself should check him out. THe highlight for me, though, was definitely the Miller/Kessel run through "Paranoid." Woo! - -- the kinder, gentler d. = i am made of fuzz. i am unthreatening. i accept what i am | dmw@ = given. i have beady plastic eyes. i am scaring myself. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:00:56 -0700 From: "W. David Barnes" Subject: [loud-fans] Review of 'Guitar, Talk, Love & Drums' sent by the excellent Jeff Brenneman Okay, where to start here...First off, sorry for taking so long to write this review. Part of it's being on vacation, part of it's just loving the music too much to want to find words to describe it and part of it's reading everyone else's elegant and intelligent posts and feeling a small bit intimidated. There...(and onward!). Grant Lee Buffalo, 'Fine How'd You Do' and 'Mockingbirds': Preferred the first cut here by a lot. 'Mockingbirds' recalled Robert Plant the first time I heard it (circa Dripping Honeybirds? Something like that?). The crooner, not the screamer. Mystery Machine, 'Doubter' and 'Fool': This was one of the three CDs I bought within days of getting this mix. Both of these songs have that trace of something familiar (good familiar) that reminds my why I love pop music. Of the two, I preferred 'Doubter'; 'Fool' reminded me of Weezer in it's straightforwardness (is that a word?) which is cool because I like that... Old '97s, 'Murder (or a heart attack)' and 'Busted Afternoon': I would guess that this be alt-country. Well-played and earnest but not really my cup of tea. Sure would sound good on a road trip with a bottle of mysterious green liquid though...'Busted Afternoon' might grow on me after a bit. Fountains of Wayne, 'Survival Car' and 'Barbara H.': Hey, something I have! Not only that, but one of the reasons I bought it was because of 'Survival Car' when all along I should have been listening to 'Barbara H.' (who hates songs that never seem to go away). And some songs never should... Ryan Adams, 'My Winding Wheel' and 'Come Pick Me Up': These are both beautiful songs. Sung and played with the sort of conviction that defy typecasting. I thought of this as being more alt-country but this could jut be the straight stuff. I really like his voice and the playing behind him is inspired. Anyone seen him (or Whiskytown) live? Drowners, 'Is There Something on Your Mind' and 'One Star': Okay, good, not very exciting. By the numbers rock and roll ('Is There Something') with 'One Star' a bit more interesting. Hmm, maybe a lot more interesting... Zumpano, 'The Sylvia Hotel and 'Some Sun': Not a lot of interest for either one of these. Okay but not a lot there for me. Owsley, 'I'm Alright' and 'Good Old Days': Jeff's mix CD was playing on the 4th of July while I was getting food ready for a barbecue. These songs came on and I stopped and played them over and over for a good little while I (and he?) cooked. These two songs are paired well together, showcasing a variety of talents. Good songwriting and singing and no stupid solos (which I expected in 'I'm Alright and didn't expect in 'Good Old Days'). Tasteful and tasty stuff. Stew, 'Re-hab' and 'C'mon Everybody': This was not to be expected ('Re-hab'). This is as near as I can figure to a perfect song. Funny and wistful and oh, so true...As spot on as everything that seems to come from the man (okay, I bought his CD and both of The Negro Problem CDs). 'C'mon Everybody' turns up the heat a notch and admirably so... Churchills, 'Gonna Take a Lot to Stay' and 'Wrong Side of the Bed': More power pop and suffers a bit from following Stew. I liked both of these okay but not enough to buy. Now, is that valid criticism? Josie and the Pussycats, 'Spin Around': I just keep thinking about the whole Betty and Veronica thing and not the song. I guess that says it all. Thanks for the opportunity, I promise to do better next time and that's about it from my house.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:12:53 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Review of 'Guitar, Talk, Love & Drums' sent by the excellent Jeff Brenneman How could you call a mix-tape that and not include the Gary Myrick song?! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:52:23 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] all out of clever subject lines At Wednesday 7/11/2001 11:55 PM -0400, dmw wrote: >my 1/2yr list is STILL topped by Little Champions _Transactions + >Replications_, and by now someone else (hint, hint) ought to be able to >support or repudiate the claim. doug is referring to me, since I picked this up in his presence for $4.95 at Amoeba. But unfortunately I have yet to listen to it. I'll still working my way through like a zillion Anton Barbeau odds-and-end and live records (the man is *prolific*). Stay tuned. >It was great to be at the show last Sat., meet the Loudfans I hadn't met >before, etc. Thanks to Matt for setting up dinner & I'm sorry we >were so late. That was pretty much my fault. Me and the cockamamie California street numbering system. And oh yeah, I'm really bad with subways also. Give me a car and I'm fine. But this walking and mass transit stuff is for the birds. Or it would be, if they couldn't fly. Thank God I'm back home in Denver where there is no mass transit. Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:50:36 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Of possible interest > Still it's asinine that this (#17) is on ONE and not Please Please Me (first > #1). I have trouble with any list of best Beatles songs that doesn't lnclude "She Loves You" and "Please Please Me." Seems to me the early Beatles songs are still underrated vis a vis the others. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:36:58 EDT From: Cardinal007@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Beatles? Pikers..... You know, as I sit here cleaning handguns and wondering when Sharples will arrive to explain why a mediocre [yet distinctive] harmonica bit on a slight song is noteworthy, I stop and bow to the Beatles. Four slight young men battling mighty odds [not *quite * the known universe, as a few showed they could survive], and succeeding. Had anyone else heard of them before this magazine came out? I hear there are some obscure bootlegs available by these Beatles. Does anyone know if that's true? PS Does anyone else own the [only] Professionals album? Wanna go offline for a circle jerk? Thick and ordinary am I. Speak like Yoda, I. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #158 *******************************