From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #100 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, June 1 2001 Volume 01 : Number 100 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Re: The Church and Japanese lyrics ["Kelly O'Connor" ] Re: [loud-fans] Gathering of the Tribe [Matthew Weber ] Re: [loud-fans] The Church [Stewart Mason ] [loud-fans] Fwd: Jen Trynin on internet radio thing [Jason Long ] [loud-fans] The Light is Always Green [popanda@juno.com] Re: [loud-fans] The Church [popanda@juno.com] Re: [loud-fans] The Church [popanda@juno.com] Re: [loud-fans] The Church [dc ] [loud-fans] obscure southern trio [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio [Stewart Mason ] [loud-fans] Northern California concert notes [Sue Trowbridge ] Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: [loud-fans] P.M. Dawn [Dana L Paoli ] [loud-fans] Another new album question [steve ] Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio ["Andrew Hamlin" Subject: [loud-fans] Re: The Church and Japanese lyrics >according to a 5/9 update on what seems to be the most reliable Church >site (http://church.tristesse.com), Peter Koppes is quoted as saying the >album has been delayed until early next year, for promotional reasons >(?). > >this site, BTW, contains some material of interest to The List -- Another possible link of interest given a recent thread is this page: http://church.tristesse.com/lyrics/starjapn.txt which shows the "English" lyrics to the Church album Starfish as they accompanied the Japanese release. Real ones here: http://church.tristesse.com/lyrics/starfish.htm [Apologies for any typos... having your pupils dilated for an eye exam really is fun for all ages...] Back to lurking, Kelly O'Connor sittingstill@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:25:59 -0700 From: "Douglas Stanley" Subject: [loud-fans] Gathering of the Tribe Please keep this on-list. I think there will a large turnout. I was looking into it and saw the Westin in SF has rooms for $129 a night, which is really cheap if you're familiar with the hotel. A decent hotel in Berkeley will probably run around $100. A fleabag will be $85. So, for $40 more, you can go first-class. My question is: Can you get around at two in the morning (or later - did I hear someone say post-party?) without having a rent-a-car. Doug > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Stanley [mailto:dstanley@broadcom.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:17 AM > To: Douglas Stanley > Subject: > > > > Question for Bay Area folks (or anyone else with an opinion): We're > probably going to be in Berkeley for the 125 Records event on June > 30th. We may have a nearby place to stay, but the potential hosts may > be moving soon - so maybe not. Any recommendations for affordable, > non-terrifying hotels in the area? Off-list responses may be > appropriate (unless there's an enormous show of interest). Thanks! > > - -- > Elizabeth > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:42:45 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Gathering of the Tribe "Douglas Stanley" on 2001/05/31 Thu AM 09:25:59 MDT wrote: > Please keep this on-list. I think there will a large turnout. Yes! Do keep this on-list. I will definitely be coming out for the party and have made plane reservations. > I was looking into it and saw the Westin in SF has rooms for $129 a night, > which is really cheap if you're familiar with the hotel. A decent hotel in > Berkeley will probably run around $100. A fleabag will be $85. So, for $40 > more, you can go first-class. Keep in mind that the party is at the Starry Plough in Berkeley. When I was out there last summer, I stayed at the Ramada Inn in Berkeley, which wasn't awful and was pretty cheap. But I'm sure it wasn't as fun as an SF hotel would be. Maybe we can get a convention rate somewhere and have some all-night parties the whole weekend... > My question is: Can you get around at two in the morning (or later - did I > hear someone say post-party?) without having a rent-a-car. Good question! I suspect the answer is No. Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:56:10 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Gathering of the Tribe At 10:42 AM 5/31/01 -0600, Roger Winston wrote: >"Douglas Stanley" on 2001/05/31 Thu AM 09:25:59 >MDT wrote: > > > My question is: Can you get around at two in the morning (or later - did I > > hear someone say post-party?) without having a rent-a-car. > >Good question! I suspect the answer is No. The answer is a qualified No. Some AC Transit routes (the bus) run 24 hours, but a rental car would be your best bet. As far as places to stay, the Golden Bear on San Pablo Ave. is pretty decent--not luxury, but as I recall it's only ~$75/night for two people. Avoid the Capri Motel on University, though. If you're on a real low budget, I have a couch or two... ;) Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley All that humankind thinks is great and mighty is but a disease upon life and must be made to perish if life is to continue. That which modern man has worshiped as being grand and noble is but an affliction. All that has given the appearance of granting freedom to mankind, has in fact ordained its enslavement, impairing and crippling from within while outwardly bearing the banner of liberty. The body of humanity has been poisoned, and even as it strives for new horizons and constant advancement, rigor mortis has preceded the approach of death and the lives of men are dragged into the grave along with it. Boyd Rice, "The End of the World," excerpted in _Apocalypse Culture_ [1990] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:19:04 +0100 From: "richblath" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Mason" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church > At 06:44 PM 5/30/01 -0700, dc wrote: > >Steve taught me how to groove; his objection to Game Theory was that the > >minute we caught a groove, we would be off on something else > > I'm sorry, is there a special "funky" Church album I've somehow missed? > While the boys were always able to drone effectively ("Maybe These Boys," > "Reptile," etc.) I don't recall ever hearing them get within spitting > distance of something that could be called a groove without sniggering. Thanks Stewart. Made me dig out Priest=Aura for a major groove fest. I'd accept thet Maybe These Boys has something of a drone about it, but Reptile is a totally different kettle of fish. i'm not sure I've ever heard a drone played that fast! I think in that interview that Donette is making a valid point about the differences between the music of GT and The Church, both of whom, for different reasons are among my favourite artists. Scott doesn't like to stay in one place or feel for very long and so would never have released Magician Among the Spirits. I was going to say couldn't have written it but I think that would have been inaccurate, I just think he would have got bored long before the end. The other point on the groove front is that in the early 90s there were a fair few remixes of Church material doing the rounds. Songs like Metropolis and Feel got remixed in ways that sometimes accentuated their rhythmic features. People would have a really hard time doing that with Regenisraen for example, though maybe not such a hard time with The Real Sheila! Richard np Mark Eitzel - West (a groove free environment - or is it?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:29:41 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church At 04:19 PM 5/31/01 +0100, richblath wrote: >> I'm sorry, is there a special "funky" Church album I've somehow missed? >> While the boys were always able to drone effectively ("Maybe These Boys," >> "Reptile," etc.) I don't recall ever hearing them get within spitting >> distance of something that could be called a groove without sniggering. > >Thanks Stewart. Made me dig out Priest=Aura for a major groove fest. Actually, I admit I've never heard that one--I thought the one before was so appallingly bad that I lost interest in the group for good. >I'd accept thet Maybe These Boys has something of a drone about it, but >Reptile is a totally different kettle of fish. i'm not sure I've ever heard >a drone played that fast! Ooh, a chance for a plug! Anyone interested in fast drones will be happy to know that on Tuesday, Astralwerks reissued NEU!, NEU! 2 and NEU! '75, the three studio albums by the German duo who were clearly an enormous influence on Stereolab (speaking of fast drones). These albums have never legally been reissued since they first came out in Germany in the '70s--all subsequent LP and CD issues have been bootlegs. So now you can listen to them without incurring The Wrath Of Dana Paoli, always a good thing. Stewart NP: TIDAL WAVE OF HYPE--The Wake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:05:57 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: [loud-fans] Fwd: Jen Trynin on internet radio thing I just got this mailing and figured I would pass it along -- I do believe there are a few Trynin fans among us. Cheers, Jase >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:10:05 -0400 >Subject: Jen Trynin on internet radio thing >From: Jen Trynin > >Hi! Jen Trynin here. Just wanted to pass along that I'll be doing a radio >show thing on the internet, tomorrow, Friday June 1, from 12pm to 2pm, >eastern standard time. It's no big deal, but I thought I'd let you know. I'm >going to be playing a bunch of other people's music (oh my god, I do listen >to music ooccasssionnally...!) and then a bunch of songs from the Q Divison >Records label which has great stuff (and with whom I'm also affiliated these >days). > >Q Division radio is on every Friday from 12 to 2pm eastern time. Just >go to http://www.radioboston.com and click on your choice of streams >under Channel 1. You can get audio only, audio AND video and be part >of a live chat with us in the studio. You can also e-mail requests >and questions to ej@radioboston.com. > >Hope you check in. See ya later! >JT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:35:43 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church At 11:29 AM 5/31/2001 -0600, Stewart Mason wrote: >At 04:19 PM 5/31/01 +0100, richblath wrote: >>Thanks Stewart. Made me dig out Priest=Aura for a major groove fest. > >Actually, I admit I've never heard that one--I thought the one before was >so appallingly bad that I lost interest in the group for good. Aw, GOLD AFTERNOON FIX ain't STARFISH, but it ain't bad either. It does stack its best tracks in the middle ("Russian Autumn Heart," "Essence," "You're Still Beautiful," and "Disappointment"), which makes for odd pacing. P=A does indeed groove *and* drone, just not the kind of P-Funk groove that "groove" often implies. Like most of the post-STARFISH albums, P=A isn't so much a collection of songs as one long soundscape. Kilbey commits just as many lyrical clunkers as ever, but words become increasingly irrelevant in this context, which is all about sound and feel. My favorite '90s Church album is SOMETIME ANYWHERE, in which Kilbey and Willson-Piper rose to the challenge of being all that was left of the Church (Peter Koppes had split by then) by coming up with the most inspired playing and arranging they'd done in some time. "Lost My Touch," "Loveblind," "Two Places at Once".... aaah. The only clunker, "Business Woman," almost makes up for its horrid lyrics with a catchy pop melody. Even better in the two-CD form, which adds the "Somewhere Else" disc of P=A leftovers -- I don't know how "Drought" or "Cut in Two" could have been left off albums. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:49:48 -0400 From: popanda@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] The Light is Always Green There is a never used sticker inside my copy of Permanent Green Light's CD AGAINST NATURE. It's yellow with the band logo on it and one of the sketched characters from the cover art on it (a genie?). It has been hiding out in that case now for eight years, and I really would like for it to go to a Loudfan who would give it a good home on their car or guitar case or somthing...don't hide it away! The first who asks may have it. - -Mark, who just go a call from Maryland about a teaching gig! "Yeah Baby, YEAH!!!" A REAL job! I'm gonna go to Baltimore and throw my hat up in the air like Mary Tyler Moore... np Johnny Paycheck "Take This Job and SHOVE it" ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:41:00 -0400 From: popanda@juno.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:19:04 +0100 "richblath" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stewart Mason" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 3:07 AM > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church > > > > At 06:44 PM 5/30/01 -0700, dc wrote: > > >Steve taught me how to groove; his objection to Game Theory was > that the > > >minute we caught a groove, we would be off on something else > > > > I'm sorry, is there a special "funky" Church album I've somehow > missed? > > While the boys were always able to drone effectively ("Maybe These > Boys," > > "Reptile," etc.) I don't recall ever hearing them get within > spitting > > distance of something that could be called a groove without > sniggering. > > Thanks Stewart. Made me dig out Priest=Aura for a major groove > fest. > I'd accept thet Maybe These Boys has something of a drone about it, > but > Reptile is a totally different kettle of fish. i'm not sure I've > ever heard > a drone played that fast! > I think in that interview that Donette is making a valid point about > the > differences between the music of GT and The Church, both of whom, > for > different reasons are among my favourite artists. Scott doesn't like > to stay > in one place or feel for very long and so would never have released > Magician > Among the Spirits. I was going to say couldn't have written it but I > think > that would have been inaccurate, I just think he would have got > bored long > before the end. > The other point on the groove front is that in the early 90s there > were a > fair few remixes of Church material doing the rounds. Songs like > Metropolis > and Feel got remixed in ways that sometimes accentuated their > rhythmic > features. People would have a really hard time doing that with > Regenisraen > for example, though maybe not such a hard time with The Real > Sheila! > > Richard > > np Mark Eitzel - West (a groove free environment - or is it?) > Back in the early nineties, my friend Ronnie went out to CA (trust fund boy) and was hanging out with SK and Donette when they were working together (knowing Ronnie he was supplying Mr. Kilbey with recreational substances and kept around...this is actually very sad), and Ronnie told me that he asked Steve if he liked GT, and Steve told him (this sounds like I should be singing the gossip song on "HEE HAW"...so "you better be sure and listen close the first time"...that with the GT music "there is something wrong there" (BLASPHEMY!) Anyway, the post from DC only validates this story from Ronnie about Mr. Kilbey's feelings about Scott's music. I can't help but personally think there's gotta be some kind of rivalry there, with Donette in the middle. Maybe they should've taken it outside. I like both musicians, but if given a choice, would part with my SK material over Scott's in a skinny minute. M ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:54:57 -0400 From: popanda@juno.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church On Wed, 30 May 2001 18:44:33 -0700 dc writes: > > Does anyone have any information about the new Church album, After > > Everything, on the Thirsty Ear label? I've read it's out in one > > magazine, but read somewhere else that it's been delayed. It > isn't > > showing up on the computers at my local unit shifters. Thanks. > > according to a 5/9 update on what seems to be the most reliable > Church > site (http://church.tristesse.com), Peter Koppes is quoted as saying > the > album has been delayed until early next year, for promotional > reasons > (?). > > this site, BTW, contains some material of interest to The List -- > root > around a little (assuming the link is still valid), and you can > find > some commentary by Donette Thayer on the relative merits of the > Church > and Game Theory, and their songwriters. *brief excerpts* follow.... > > in neutrality, > > dc > vicinity of seattle > > > *brief excerpts* > > on scott miller: > "Yay! a Scott fan. He is certainly one of the true geniuses I have > known > in my lifetime. > Though one wonders what he might choose to say if The Church ever > came > up in a > casual conversation. Should he divulge the sordid particulars over > a > beer in a > smoke-filled bar? I think not; besides thats one of the purposes > of > song writing -- to > tell the whole story in all of its gruesome detail and then claim > poetic > license. Another > possibility involves a lackadaisical mention of this connection, > one > which caused him > great pain in many ways. Unlikely that any one would want to > initiate > such a conversation, certainly not a man as reserved as Scott. His > best > possible course of action would be to smilingly acknowledge such a > comment, and let it pass." > > on steve kilbey: > "He is by far and away the most talented creative force I have ever > encountered. He > dismisses this genius by attributing it to his ability to remember > things, and indeed he > does seem to have a massive knowledge store in his skull which > holds > every song, every > joke, every poem, clothing item, etc. that has made any impact on > him. > He claimed that > he creates less than he synthesizes, creating new particulars by > combining or > recreating material from his exhaustive memory. I disputed this, and > I > know from my > own creative work that the only way that a person becomes able to > differentiate > between synthesis creativity and bolt of lightning creativity is by > experiencing the > latter on a relatively regular basis." > > on scott miller and steve kilbey: > "Scott Miller taught me how to write music that holds up in court > (so to > speak). > Because of his direction, I dont write lyrics that I cant publish > on > their own, hoping > that the music will carry them. > Steve taught me how to groove; his objection to Game Theory was that > the > minute we caught a groove, we would be off on something else (and > indeed > most Game Theory songs had about sixty zillion chords, forty bridges > and > two hundred different verses)..... > Favorite Album: Lolita Nation, favorite song: all of Lolita Nation. > I > played Lolita Nation > for Steve shortly after it came out, and he liked it very much. He > complained about how > he would never be able to put out a sprawling record like that, much > as > he would have > liked to..." > > on heroin: > "If you choose heroin as your intoxicant, I hope you like songs and > prose about heroin > because thats all youll get -- probably for the rest of your > life. > Boring! But somewhat > tidier than a drunken rampage. Cocaine makes for a fun songwriting > fest, > but you end > up with songs that have a lot of bar chords played really fast that > you > cant remember > later because they suck. At least with cocaine theres a reasonable > chance that you > might write seventeen bad songs and still get those dishes > washed..." > > ########### > Oh, btw DC, thankyou for this info (Douglas Coupland, is that you? ) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:05:39 -0700 From: dc Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Church popanda@juno.com wrote: > >Oh, btw DC, thankyou for this info (Douglas Coupland, is that you? half right. dc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:41:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio Okay, so how come we've been so reticent in our opinions on the new R.E.M. CD? I know a handful of us are reviewing it for John F. Butland's record review thing in TOAST - so we don't want to scoop ourselves - but there are many more of us. (Toasted reviews are out...uh 6/12 now, right JFB?) Opinions? Pro? Con? Why? Why not? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::As long as I don't sleep, he decided, I won't shave. ::That must mean...as soon as I fall asleep, I'll start shaving! __Thomas Pynchon, VINELAND__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:05:34 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio At Thursday 5/31/2001 09:41 PM -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Opinions? Pro? Con? Why? Why not? Due to advance (mostly negative) reviews of the new R.E.M. disc on this very list, I have decided not to purchase said disc until I can I can purchase it used*. Therefore I have not heard it yet. Later. --Rog * - Or just steal it outright; anything to deprive artists I like of their hard-earned royalties. Also, I'm in favor of paving over the entire country. And what's up with that Tom Green guy? Does anyone think he's really funny? And is Jenna Bush the Bad Seed, leading her twin sister into evil and debauchery? And what's the deal with Anne Heche? - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:29:57 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio At 09:41 PM 5/31/01 -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Opinions? Pro? Con? Why? Why not? > I only buy records by musicians the same age as Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt or younger. S NP: LUXURY CONDOS COMING TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOON ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: [loud-fans] Northern California concert notes Thought I'd mention that on June 9, loud-swap mix-tape fave Veda Hille will be playing in Santa Cruz, along with cult heroine Happy Rhodes in her first-ever West Coast appearance. It should be quite a special event. Info at http://www.ectofest.org/west/ Also coming in June: Spinal Tap (Warfield) and the New Pornographers (Great American Music Hall). Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:45:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio On Thu, 31 May 2001, Roger Winston wrote: > At Thursday 5/31/2001 09:41 PM -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > really funny? And is Jenna Bush the Bad Seed, leading her twin sister into > evil and debauchery? By the end of what calls itself the Bush Administration, J. Bush will have either been convicted of drunk driving, become pregnant by unknown partner, or be caught with coke. You read it here (probably not) first. > -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com Toads are always enough, pal. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::it's not your meat:: __Mr. Toad__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:50:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jer Fairall Subject: [loud-fans] P.M. Dawn I recently pulled PM Dawn's decade-old debut album OF THE HEART, OF THE SOUL AND OF THE CROSS: THE UTOPIAN EXPERIENCE (their second shortest album title, amazingly) for the first time in since what must have been my early high school years and not only was I surprised to hear how well it holds up but it has also not left my CD player for the last few days. It clearly sounds like a record of it's time and the one or two attempts at hard-edged rapping, coming from two hippies, probably sound even sillier now than they did at the time but the production and songwriting are both solid and inventive and overall I think this album is probably as superlative an example of it's genre (early 90's quasi-hip hop/dance/pop?) as one will find. The quality of their work declined with each subsequent release, I think, but their debut is absolutely wonderful. Any one else know/like this one? Jer ===== Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:04:39 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio I do not have time to buy the new REM album. I am too busy not buying the new Weezer album. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:06:24 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] P.M. Dawn The quality of their work declined with each subsequent release, I think, but their debut is absolutely wonderful. Any one else know/like this one? >>>>>>>>. I definitely like that one, although the long (dare I say Game Theory-esque) opening of their "Jesus Wept" album, with the Peanuts sample and everything, suddenly bursting into the way poppy "Downtown Venus" is up there as one of my favorite album starters of all time. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:15:54 -0500 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Another new album question > Opinions? Pro? Con? Why? Why not? What about the new Cowboy Junkies? It got a rave on All Things Considered today (is that good or bad?). What little bit I heard sounded interesting. - - Steve __________ The president believes that it's an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policymakers to protect the American way of life, the American way of life is a blessed one. - Ari Fleischer, when asked if Americans should use less energy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:06:21 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] obscure southern trio >Due to advance (mostly negative) reviews of the new R.E.M. disc on this >very list, I have decided not to purchase said disc until I can I can >purchase it used*. Therefore I have not heard it yet. Trying to hear everything released this year and set some new record, but I haven't gotten Weezer, Ike Turner, Cowboy Junkies, Proclaimers, Super Chikan, Lucinda Williams, Buddy Guy, Go-Go's, Missy Elliott, Mary Chapin Carpenter, or even Sophie Von Otter, it's fair to say I've got some fast running to do. I still urge everyone to buy PUT MY DREAM ON THIS PLANET, though. Oh, and if you can't get that one, at least get Otis Taylor's WHITE AFRICAN, which does come with the sticky thing across the top. Giggling every time I read "muffuletta" (giggle), Andy "The places where people will tell you not to go are precisely the places you should want to go... However, I will adopt this motto: 'If I get killed in a juke joint, I promise not to recommend that anyone else go there...'" - --Jim O'Neal ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #100 *******************************