From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #98 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, May 30 2001 Volume 01 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Go-Go's ["Aaron Milenski" ] [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch [Miles Goosens ] RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [bbradley@namesecure.com] RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin ["Amy Lewis" ] RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [dmw ] RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [bbradley@namesecure.com] Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [Tim_Walters@digidesign.com] RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [bbradley@namesecure.com] Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [Matthew Weber ] Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] Amy Correia [AWeiss4338@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) [Stewart Mason ] Re: [loud-fans] Amy Correia [Dana L Paoli ] [loud-fans] Lyrics Mistakes [Michael Mitton Subject: [loud-fans] Go-Go's A couple of comments here: First, I've seen the tape, and trust me, an obviously drugged-up Belinda comes off as one of the biggest jerks in the world. If you like her and would like to retain some respect for her, don't watch it. The mid-80 MTV concert that brought Belinda Carslile to a lucky viewer's home happened in my home town, believe it or not, and everyone who encountered her thought she was still a jerk. They said the same for Stewart's favorite late-night talk-show guest Kari Wurher, and pretty much everyone else involved with MTV. Second, a few years back I saw Jane Weidlin and Kathy Valentine open for Mattehw Sweet, and the audience reaction was the most embarrassing and obnoxious I've ever encountered (considering how many punk shows I've been to, that's saying a lot.) Most of it was overweight, unattractive guys yelling out things like "who's older, you or Mick Jagger?" These guys all seemed to actually have girlfirends with them, which is yet more proof that human nature is beyond comprehension. In any case, the reason I mention this is that whether or not Belinda is using her bandmates' experience as motivation for her Playboy spread, my guess is she and every woman over the age of 30 who stands on a stage receives the same kind of scrutiny and treatment. I doubt that what she's diong is really going to change anyone's behavior, but at least she'll make a few bucks off of the same idiots who hoot and holler at a stage they'll never set foot upon. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:26:25 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch Today I ate lunch at the Schlotzsky's in downtown Nashville. In the past, I've noticed that this particular Schlotzsky's has a more interesting background music program than you'd expect from a Nashville outpost of a chain deli,* as I've heard Wilco and Matthew Sweet tunes while dining there before. But today's musical selections were even more outstanding. Among the ones I remember were Midnight Oil's "Blue Sky Mining," a good cover of the Pixies' "Here Comes Your Man," and the most impressive of the bunch, the Clash's "Overpowered By Funk." That's right, not its albummates "Rock the Casbah" or "Should I Stay or Should I Go," nor the Clash's only other U.S. hit, "Train in Vain," but overlooked album track "Overpowered By Funk." Heck, the worst song I heard during the forty minutes I spent there was the Stone Roses' overpowered-by-blooze "Love Spreads." Yeah, it wouldn't be quite so impressive for a college radio show or an hour of WFMU, but for piped-in lunch music, it pretty much rocks. Miles *If there was a good independent deli in downtown, I'd eat there instead. But our downtown has a bad independent deli, a passable independent deli, and a mediocre "wraps" place, so Schlotzsky's is the best choice when in the sandwich mood. There's good Greek, German, Italian, and Thai within a block of my building on either side (and an upgraded Mexican place soon, hurrah!), so it's not like anyone's suffering here. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:32:20 -0700 From: Cindy Alvarez Subject: [loud-fans] come see the Lucksmiths (SF) The Lucksmiths are playing next Friday and Saturday in San Francisco! I am going to at least one of the shows, and would love to meet up with some loud fans if anyone else is going. We could grab dinner beforehand - there are good cheap restaurants relatively near both venues. Friday, Jun 8: Great American Music Hall with Cinerama, Ladybug Transistor, Tickets from the Venue Saturday, Jun 9: Cafe Du Nord with Ladybug Transistor, Call And Response E-mail me if interested! c ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:53:48 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch > Today I ate lunch at the Schlotzsky's in downtown Nashville. I know the point of this note was the music playing, but I feel obliged to mention that I love Schlotzsky's. Growing up in Dallas, Schlotzsky's sandwiches were a staple of my family's existence, and I was horrified to discover, when I moved to Boston, that there weren't any here. Years later, one actually opened in Saugus, but closed within a month of my discovering it. My trips back to Texas are largely structured around Mexican food, but I always find time to go to Scholtzsky's at least once. Or twice. My mother has been trying for about fifteen years to perfect a home recipe for their bread. She's getting very close. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:09:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tape review: I shot an arrow . . . (tape 1, side a) On Mon, 28 May 2001, Amy B. P. Lewis wrote: > christian marclay - johann strauss > a stately symphonic beginning twists into something funny but sinister once > "the blue danube" takes hold. then the turntable goes mad, mad i tells ya! "a > clockwork orange" meets "songs for the little ones," that collection of > broken-down icecream trucks with decomposing "pop goes the weasel" and warped > mechanized amusement park spiels that would give any kid nightmares. i have a > friend who needs to hear this. Okay, this has nothing to do with Doug's tape - but for some reason the other day, I found the song "Pop Goes the Weasel" running through my head (no, it wasn't an ice cream truck related incident - 'round here, they play the same four bars of "Turkey in the Straw" over and over again), and I thought, "what the hell?" I couldn't think of any of the other words...but exactly why is the weasel going "pop"? I certainly hope one of beloved children's folk songs doesn't prove to be about microwaving rodents... So, uh, what *are* the lyrics, and why is the weasel going pop? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, founding member, People Against Exploding Animals J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:14 -0400 From: "Amy Lewis" Subject: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin jeffrey norman wonders: > So, uh, what *are* the lyrics, and why is the weasel going pop? according to my childhood chord organ book, the lyrics went: round and round the mulberry bush the monkey chased the weasel the monkey thought 'twas all in vain pop! goes the weasel i've no time to wait or sigh no time to chase the weasel kiss me quick, i'm off, goodbye pop! goes the weasel i can't help you with the second question. maybe the weasel had smallpox or something. - -amy Amy B. Lewis | PPD Manager, Global Publishing | Forrester Research | tel 617.613.5981 | fax 617.613.5982 | alewis@forrester.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:13:38 -0700 From: bbradley@namesecure.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin hm. mine says 'the monkey thought 'twas all in fun' and i think the monkey caught the weasel, which is why he went pop. if my mother the children's librarian was not bicycling around ireland, i'd ask her. she is omniscient. i'm sure of it. - -- pop goes the weasel n' the weasel goes pop, brianna bradley amy: according to my childhood chord organ book, the lyrics went: round and round the mulberry bush the monkey chased the weasel the monkey thought 'twas all in vain pop! goes the weasel i've no time to wait or sigh no time to chase the weasel kiss me quick, i'm off, goodbye pop! goes the weasel i can't help you with the second question. maybe the weasel had smallpox or something. - -amy Amy B. Lewis | PPD Manager, Global Publishing | Forrester Research | tel 617.613.5981 | fax 617.613.5982 | alewis@forrester.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:18:53 -0400 From: "Amy Lewis" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin a possible explanation: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-TRIVIA-ENG/1999-06/0928920505 other lyrical possibilities: Half a pound of twopenny rice, Half a pound of treackle, Mix it up and make it nice, Pop goes the weasel http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-TRIVIA-ENG/1999-06/0928926391 i promise, no more posts on the topic. - -amy Amy B. Lewis | PPD Manager, Global Publishing | Forrester Research | tel 617.613.5981 | fax 617.613.5982 | alewis@forrester.com bbradley@name secure.com To: alewis@forrester.com, loud-fans@smoe.org cc: 05/29/01 Subject: RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin 05:13 PM hm. mine says 'the monkey thought 'twas all in fun' and i think the monkey caught the weasel, which is why he went pop. if my mother the children's librarian was not bicycling around ireland, i'd ask her. she is omniscient. i'm sure of it. - -- pop goes the weasel n' the weasel goes pop, brianna bradley amy: according to my childhood chord organ book, the lyrics went: round and round the mulberry bush the monkey chased the weasel the monkey thought 'twas all in vain pop! goes the weasel i've no time to wait or sigh no time to chase the weasel kiss me quick, i'm off, goodbye pop! goes the weasel i can't help you with the second question. maybe the weasel had smallpox or something. - -amy Amy B. Lewis | PPD Manager, Global Publishing | Forrester Research | tel 617.613.5981 | fax 617.613.5982 | alewis@forrester.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:22:11 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin On Tue, 29 May 2001 bbradley@namesecure.com wrote: > hm. mine says 'the monkey thought 'twas all in fun' and i think the monkey > caught the weasel, which is why he went pop. i think the weasel suffered a stress-related embolism. the monkey is crestfallen and repentent. he sulks in the corner for the next hour. grotesque and arrogant, - -- d. = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:31:38 -0700 From: bbradley@namesecure.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin <> laughing out loud in the office on a high-stress day = bad. not being able to stop laughing and having to go outside in the parking lot and giggle maniacally by yourself and look like a loonybin escapee = worse. unless you happen to be the passing REAL loonybin escapee who thinks you understand him and tries to have a conversation with you. then it's positively the best thing since sliced bread. i love where i work. damn you for doing that to me. i'm still giggling. you're evil. - -- brianna bradley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:35:50 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin >i've no time to wait or sigh >no time to chase the weasel >kiss me quick, i'm off, goodbye "Sorry, honey, but if we chase the weasel, you'll miss your plane. You'll just have to spank the monkey later." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:39:31 -0700 From: bbradley@namesecure.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin there's another verse, too. a penny for a spool of thread a penny for a needle that's the way the money goes pop goes the weasel the weasel must have actually exploded or something. assuming of course that the thread and needle are to be used on the weasel. sorry. punchy toady. toady? today. punchy today. sorry. i may be a puchy toady as well, for all i know. - -- brianna bradley web designer, web ops http://namesecure.com IT ALL STARTS WITH A WEB ADDRESS tel: 925.609.1101 x206 fax: 925.609.1112 "The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing." Cole's Axiom http://startrekonice.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:11:02 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin i suspect (and i hope i'm right and the weasel is neither infected nor being microwaved) that the weasel "pops" down his burrow when being chased. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:17:32 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin bbradley@namesecure.com wrote: > > there's another verse, too. > > a penny for a spool of thread > a penny for a needle > that's the way the money goes > pop goes the weasel > > the weasel must have actually exploded or something. assuming of course > that the thread and needle are to be used on the weasel. okay, this one seriously cracked me up! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:29:51 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin Here's a possible explanation of the song: http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-pop1.htm Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Music Library University of California, Berkeley It should not be supposed that world-pessimism is extraordinary. Something rather close to it remains in Christian orthodoxy, and we can safely predict that before long it will return. Perhaps the three centuries or so of (qualified) world-optimism that we have just enjoyed will then be portrayed as having been merely a blip, a temporary aberration. Don Cupitt, _Creation Out of Nothing_ [1990] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:27:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) This was supposed to go to the list earlier, instead it went only to glenn ... and he corrected me on the Schlotzsky's thing. But the end is still relevant. On Tue, 29 May 2001, glenn mcdonald wrote: > > Today I ate lunch at the Schlotzsky's in downtown Nashville. > > I know the point of this note was the music playing, but I feel obliged to > mention that I love Schlotzsky's. Growing up in Dallas, Schlotzsky's > sandwiches were a staple of my family's existence... So for the bulk of the nation, Schlotzsky's is the closest you can get to a Jewish-style New York deli? I feel bad for you guys ... Indianapolis has the (formerly amazing, now only pretty good) Shapiro's, which is the real thing and not a chain. My mother (a Lower East Side native) was always astonished that such a thing managed to survive in the great American heartland, serving bialys and matzah brie and pastrami-on-rye and Vernor's ginger ale and black cherry ... Michael recently played: a bunch of old mix tapes. Who was it who sent me a tape called MUSIC YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD VOL. 2? It is good, but I lost the track listing ... p.s. OK, so the Schlotzsky's is from Austin, and serves southwestern styled muffalettas (a bizarre concept, but I've had the things before and can't stand olives ...) WHY IS THEIR NAME SCHLOTZSKY'S?!?!? Based on the name and the ads I always thought it was a Jewish-style deli take-off... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Zwirn mzwirn01@tufts.edu ICQ #12755821 Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University, Medford MA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:37:08 -0400 From: popanda@juno.com Subject: [loud-fans] Amy Correia A friend of mine keeps trying to convert me to the "stylings" of Amy Correia. She played here in town the other night I believe with Richard Thompson (of course I had to work) and he had wanted me to go. What is her style similar to? Also, I think the Chomsky disc isn't worth anyone's time, and Hefner are good but the vocalist is very similar to Robert Forrester of the Go-Betweens. If you can get over that, then you should enjoy it. And finally, Belinda Carlisle is the sexiest woman alive, at any age or weight. God has spoken. Ernie Douglas is alive and well and fronting Weezer. - -Mark p.s. apologies have been made to the divine Miss Jen. I responded to an off-list post that I couldn't tell was an off-list post. Dana, how can you tell with Juno that it is an off-list post? Me confused. Also, apologies to the list from me as I blabbed on and on about the slide show of trout fishing in Quebec that is my life. I just start writing and don't think about it, then later I find myself red faced going, WHY did I post THAT??? Sheesh, I really just start writing and can't slow down, like Lionel Richie. Me sorry. "I'm working on it!" ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:48:41 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Correia On Tue, 29 May 2001 popanda@juno.com wrote: > A friend of mine keeps trying to convert me to the "stylings" of Amy > Correia. She played here in town the other night I believe with Richard > Thompson (of course I had to work) and he had wanted me to go. What is > her style similar to? Sheryl Crow. She can write, and the disc is well-produced, but if it's not the sort of thing you like, well, it's not going to be the sort of thing you like. - -- d., evil laugh inspirer...and proud of it! np old 97's _Satellite Rides_ = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:57:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin On Tue, 29 May 2001, Amy Lewis wrote: > jeffrey norman wonders: > > So, uh, what *are* the lyrics, and why is the weasel going pop? > > according to my childhood chord organ book, the lyrics went: > > round and round the mulberry bush > the monkey chased the weasel > the monkey thought 'twas all in vain > pop! goes the weasel A-ha! This is clearly prognostication of a Nostradamian order - that this refers to Jim Jeffords' defection, DumbYuh's consternation and confusion, and the blowing-up of the Republican consensus is indisputable. > i've no time to wait or sigh > no time to chase the weasel > kiss me quick, i'm off, goodbye > pop! goes the weasel DumbYuh loses it, goes off several wagons, and resolves to follow the Grateful Dead around the country. Told the Dead is no longer touring, he pouts and orders Dick Cheney to learn guitar. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::flag on the moon...how'd it get there?:: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:33:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) On Tue, 29 May 2001, Michael Zwirn wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2001, glenn mcdonald wrote: > > > > Today I ate lunch at the Schlotzsky's in downtown Nashville. > > > > I know the point of this note was the music playing, but I feel obliged to > > mention that I love Schlotzsky's. Growing up in Dallas, Schlotzsky's > > sandwiches were a staple of my family's existence... > > So for the bulk of the nation, Schlotzsky's is the closest you can get > to a Jewish-style New York deli? Err, no. I was all about to post that while Schlotzsky's sandwiches are fine, the place ain't no deli. If they'd just went and called themselves "Schlotzsky's Sandwiches," no one would be all up in arms. But that comment notwithstanding, I suspect for folks in, say, Montana, Schlotzsky's *is* about as close as they can get to a New York-style deli. Not very close, but whaddaya gonna do? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::As long as I don't sleep, he decided, I won't shave. ::That must mean...as soon as I fall asleep, I'll start shaving! __Thomas Pynchon, VINELAND__ np: Creeper Lagoon - whose title I can never remember...(newish) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:06:13 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) > So for the bulk of the nation, Schlotzsky's is the closest you can get > to a Jewish-style New York deli? No, no, Schlotzsky's is not an ersatz Jewish deli, and should never have been marketed as anything resembling one. It began as a one-sandwich Austin restaurant based on a derivation of the New Orleans muffuletta, and the only things you should consider ordering there are variations on that theme. Anything that doesn't involve round sourdough bread and olives, avoid. Some history: http://www.colorpro.com/great-sandwiches/muffuletta/history.htm glenn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:16:13 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weasel-poppin *sigh* This is what y'all get for not listening to rap. "POP goes the weasel 'cause the weasel goes POP!" - --3rd Bass, from "Pop Goes The Weasel," on 1991's DERELICTS OF DIALECT Tautologically, Andy "Anything that doesn't involve round sourdough bread and olives, avoid." - --glenn mcdonald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:25:42 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Correia In a message dated 5/29/01 6:46:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, popanda@juno.com writes: > A friend of mine keeps trying to convert me to the "stylings" of Amy > Correia. She played here in town the other night I believe with Richard > Thompson (of course I had to work) and he had wanted me to go. What is > her style similar to? > > Liz Phair with a happier attitude and no raunch. She really is pretty good. I would give her a chance. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:35:36 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) At 08:06 PM 5/29/01 -0400, glenn mcdonald wrote: >> So for the bulk of the nation, Schlotzsky's is the closest you can get >> to a Jewish-style New York deli? > >No, no, Schlotzsky's is not an ersatz Jewish deli, and should never have >been marketed as anything resembling one. It began as a one-sandwich Austin >restaurant based on a derivation of the New Orleans muffuletta, and the only >things you should consider ordering there are variations on that theme. >Anything that doesn't involve round sourdough bread and olives, avoid. "Derivation" is the key word here, as Schlotzsky's has moved so far away from the true muffuletta that the fact that both sandwiches are round and cut into quarters is the main point of comparison. The main difference lies in the bread--proper muffulettas are on soft, crusty Italian bread and Schlotzsky's bread is an entirely different beast, a sourdough with a peculiar spongy texture that's much firmer than anything you'd get on the Gulf coast. They've also really wimped out on the olives; the heavily seasoned chopped-olives-onions-and-celery salad that's the key to the muffeletta is supposed to be present in equal amounts to the meats and cheese, but at Schlotzsky's, it's more like a garnish. Schlotzsky's makes a good sandwich, but it's not that much superior to what you'd get at any Subway, and it's not a patch on either a real muffuletta or, to return to the Jewish deli concept, a plate of chopped liver with toast points, sliced eggs and onions with a nice Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray to wash it down. He's right, though, don't ever get the ham sandwich or anything like that at Schlotzsky's. You'd get the same effect by mainlining the contents of a saltshaker. Personally, my own return visits to central Texas aren't complete without a Mrs. Baird's cherry pie and a Delaware Punch. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:06:23 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) On Tuesday, May 29, 2001, at 07:35 PM, Stewart Mason wrote: > Personally, my own return visits to central Texas aren't complete without > a > Mrs. Baird's cherry pie and a Delaware Punch. Used to be, one of the nice things about downtown Ft. Worth was the smell from the Mrs. Baird's plant. It was closed in favor of a larger facility after the company was purchased by Bimbo, Inc. - - Steve __________ It's widely expected that when Congress renews the 1996 welfare law next year, social conservatives will press to earmark millions of dollars for marriage education, require states to end some income tests that discourage parents from getting married, and reward single mothers with cash bonuses if they marry the child's father. - Mary Leonard, Boston Globe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:20:35 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) In elementary school we made yearly field trips to the Mrs. Baird's factory on Mockingbird, where they would give us the same unremarkable tour of the facilities, and then serve us buttered "bread" still hot from the ovens. That's the only way I could bear to eat that crap. I'll never forget dropping slices of it into Turtle Creek and then racing half a mile down the river to wait for the slices to drift by again, still intact. Not only were the slices apparently immune to dissolution, but even the ducks recognized that they weren't really food. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:43:12 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] [NS] Overpowered by Lunch (fwd) On Tuesday, May 29, 2001, at 09:20 PM, glenn mcdonald wrote: > In elementary school we made yearly field trips to the Mrs. Baird's > factory > on Mockingbird, where they would give us the same unremarkable tour of the > facilities, and then serve us buttered "bread" still hot from the ovens. > That's the only way I could bear to eat that crap. I'll never forget > dropping slices of it into Turtle Creek and then racing half a mile down > the > river to wait for the slices to drift by again, still intact. Not only > were > the slices apparently immune to dissolution, but even the ducks recognized > that they weren't really food. Heh, I bet those Turtle Creek ducks were waiting for croissants. But it's true that in no other country would what Mrs. Baird's makes be considered bread. We're lucky that the French have only had to put up with McDonalds, else they might have nuked us by now. - - Steve __________ It's widely expected that when Congress renews the 1996 welfare law next year, social conservatives will press to earmark millions of dollars for marriage education, require states to end some income tests that discourage parents from getting married, and reward single mothers with cash bonuses if they marry the child's father. - Mary Leonard, Boston Globe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:58:38 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Correia popanda@juno.com wrote: > > p.s. apologies have been made to the divine Miss Jen. I responded to an > off-list post that I couldn't tell was an off-list post. and my apolgies to the list for my apparent lies. i wasn't trying to misrepresent my life, i just had a chronology lapse. i actually got married in 1982, not 1981, and so also had another year to go before being on the cusp of discovering REM. the rest of the personal description still holds true, though :) Jen np- Grant Lee Buffalo- "Jubilee" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:06:39 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Amy Correia p.s. apologies have been made to the divine Miss Jen. I responded to an off-list post that I couldn't tell was an off-list post. Dana, how can you tell with Juno that it is an off-list post? Me confused. >>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I'll address this to the list anyhow, just in case anyone else is wondering. Under "Options" go to "Show Message Headers" and select "Main." When you get a message, look at the first few lines. They will look something like this: From: popanda@juno.com To: loud-fans@smoe.org Cc: dana-boy@juno.com Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:37:08 -0400 Subject: [loud-fans] The Kinks were much, much better than the Beach Boys If you don't see "loud-fans@smoe.org" in the "To:" section or the "Cc:" section, then it's an off list post. If you do see "loud-fans@smoe.org" in the "To:" section of the "Cc:" section, then it's an on list post. Smart off-list posters make sure to remove the [loud-fans] from the subject line, but you can't always count on that. - --dana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:18:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Mitton Subject: [loud-fans] Lyrics Mistakes I've been wondering for some time why the lyrics that come with CDs are so often wrong in little ways. For example, as I sit here listenting to Belle & Sebastian's "Tigermilk," I see that the lyrics insert says Mary Jo starts "Mary Jo, sitting alone / Drinking tea, she just got home." But listening to the song, I think he's clearly singing "Mary Jo, living alone / Drinking tea, on her own." So why are little mistakes like this so common in the lyric sheets? I assume that the inserts are done after the music has been recorded, so I doubt there's any issue of the band changing lyrics. Are they just lazy? Are there poetic considerations that lead them to write one thing and sing another? I don't have many pet peeves, but this is one of them. - --Michael M ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #98 ******************************