From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #97 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, May 29 2001 Volume 01 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] hot summertime swapping! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] hot summertime swapping! [Roger Winston ] [loud-fans] Band names [steve ] Re: [loud-fans] Band names [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] um, sharples... (ns) [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Dream side ONE ["Andrew Hamlin" ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Dream side ONE ["glenn mcdonald" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:17:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [loud-fans] hot summertime swapping! In a week or so, I'll be sending out the June tape/CDR/mysterious clay tablet swap list, so I'm sending this message to the whole list so that anyone who wants in can tell me, anyone who wants out can tell me, and anyone who wants to complain about previous swaps and their non-success can tell me. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n matches? The Architectural Dance Society candles? www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html matches? candles? np: The Fall _The Legendary Chaos Tape_ buns? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:58:38 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hot summertime swapping! On Mon, 28 May 2001, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > anyone who wants to complain about previous swaps and their non-success > can tell me. I went to this party, you know, one of *those* parties, with an erstwhile girlfriend. She balled this other guy and wound up dumping me for him the next week. Meanwhile I muddled through the least enthusiastic lay of my life with *his* girlfriend, who had bad teeth, technique, and smelled vaguely "off." It was weeks before I could persuade her to stop calling. = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:27:19 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hot summertime swapping! At Monday 5/28/2001 04:58 PM -0400, dmw wrote: >I went to this party, you know, one of *those* parties, with an erstwhile >girlfriend. She balled this other guy and wound up dumping me for him the >next week. Meanwhile I muddled through the least enthusiastic lay of my >life with *his* girlfriend, who had bad teeth, technique, and smelled >vaguely "off." It was weeks before I could persuade her to stop calling. Could you've have fleshed this story out a little bit more, please? You know, we needed to know what clothes you were wearing at the time and such. We're used to a level of detail about personal lives here on this List that you're just not providing, fella. What were the political affiliations of the people involved (including yourself at the time) and what kind of music did they listen to? Were there drugs at this party? What kind of transportation did you take to get to the party? Remember, there's no such thing as Too Much Information. I'm just being a smartass again, ha ha ha! Thanks for the great story! Later. --Rog - -- When toads are not enough: http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:30:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] You Go(-go) Girl On Mon, 28 May 2001 popanda@juno.com wrote: > me this nice letter explaining why they did it) and I wanted to dress > like Ernie Douglas on MY THREE SONS. Now I've got this image of three-way animated footsie going on in my head and it won't stop. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, sparing you his life story J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::To be the center of the universe, don't orbit things:: __Scott Miller__ np: Julian Cope _Droolian_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:18 EDT From: Cardinal007@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hot summertime swapping! In a message dated 5/28/01 5:36:24 PM, rwinston@tde.com writes: >what kind of music did they listen to? Is this a *music* list? Shit! Sorry to intrude ............ departing now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:10:40 -0400 From: "Amy B. P. Lewis" Subject: [loud-fans] tape review: I shot an arrow . . . (tape 1, side a) this isn't part of the official loud-fans swap, but i thought some folks might be interested in the two mixtapes dmw made for me, um, let's just say earlier this year. what follows is tangential, inaccurate, impressionistic, and subject to meta-critiquing. i gotta thank doug again for making these tapes. a huge breadth of musicians i hadn't heard but wanted to; ultra-high quality recording (my homespun tapes always belie my crappy equipment with pops, gurgles, untidy segues, and other flaws); and gorgeous j-cards. this took a lot of work, and i really appreciate it. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ christian marclay - johann strauss a stately symphonic beginning twists into something funny but sinister once "the blue danube" takes hold. then the turntable goes mad, mad i tells ya! "a clockwork orange" meets "songs for the little ones," that collection of broken-down icecream trucks with decomposing "pop goes the weasel" and warped mechanized amusement park spiels that would give any kid nightmares. i have a friend who needs to hear this. home - contract v. cool, hipster, with a healthy dose of noise. i likes, muchly. home - children's suite 3: displaying prisms who are these folks? lush symphony becomes pop for now people, melds into something more. pretty damn cool. death cab for cutie - song for kelly huckaby the strings behind pick up the previous songs' sound and blend nicely into the more indie-rock songs TK. i like "we have the facts . . . " but it reminds me of the big snowstorm 5 march when everyone got to leave work except me and my friend tomoko -- she was trying to finish some dumb graphics for the veep of mktg. and i stayed to edit the presentation and give her moral support. she kept replaying my copy of "we have the facts . . . " three or four times, which helped me get into the record but also sort of made me want to wait awhile to hear it again. after a month or so, i decided that i'm voting yes. gingersol - handcuffs sparer, until the chorus at least. kind of feels like coming down from uppers, like this nervous strung-out energy doing battle with oncoming weariness. (i mean that in a good way.) a lot more's going on in here than meets the ear. maggies - green more minor-tinged pop -- instantly hummable. great blend of male/female vocals. delish. i've been a negligent lister and haven't gone out of my way to explore loudfans' bands. that needs to change. jennifer marks - green another fine song with the same title. props for name-checking the incredible hulk. charming little accordion outro -- where'd that come from? jennifer marks - the weather was really nice this doesn't have the pizzazz of the previous tune. the chorus somehow doesn't deliver the goods, and i know she's probably intending this sarcastically, but the song doesn't back it up. spontanes - green catchy -- i think this would be a good driving-around-the-north-shore-in-a-convertible song. makes me bop my head all around. mother may i - we always seem to break up at christmas time great title. ratcheting up the rawk factor -- more good convertible music, maybe because the spaciousness of the sound and the power-guitars (eddie cochrane comes to mind here). would be a shocking segue snuggled up against jules verdone's heartrending "little christmas." moodroom - searching i don't know how to describe the lilt of this type of song, maybe something akin to a moebius strip winding round and round, in and out. good shit. one of those songs that lull you at first then crash boom bang. hey, is the band's name backwards an "othello" reference? patsies - b-side myself another cool title, though i kept wanting to type "pasties." punking it up, go! and relevant to mixtaping, even. energy overdrive. feckless beast - face now where have i heard that band name before? moody, blistering, roiling with the pent-up anger that you know is going to lead to a full-out argument. i'd hate to be the arguee. q & not u - nine things everybody knows dischord up the wazoo, but not in a bad way. slow jets - lick the salty like 5 great hooks all smooshed together, a play-doh fun factory indeed. the title sounds like it was thought up by ween. slow jets - tangerine crows more brazen wotthehell archy, wotthehell spirit. i have to say that on the songlist insert, one could interpret it as "lick the salty, tangerine crows" - -- how trippy! new pornographers - the slow descent into alcoholism this was my first real taste of these guys, and the only song on the tape i already own. (though i didn't when you sent it -- my most pop-soaked friend gave me the record for my birthday, along with love's "forever changes" and gram parsons' "gp/grievous angel.") i luff this song, how could anyone not? scott mcknight - things i'm not a welcome dose of twang. "john paul sartie" makes me smile every time, sorta like jonathan richman mugging up "sigmund frood." qui est-ce, zees monsieur mcknight? i am intrigued. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ tape 1, side b TK shortly. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:31:16 -0400 From: "Amy B. P. Lewis" Subject: [loud-fans] tape review: I shot an arrow . . . (tape 1, side b) without futher ado: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ hefner - we love the city clever, clever anthemic opener to side b. thumbs unhesitatingly up. i can ID with yearning for the tube to run all night. i'm a sucker for male singers with strange, neurotic, or downright geekazoid voices. hefner - the hymn for the cigarettes winsome, charming, bright. "she smoked in my bed 'cos she thought it would annoy me / but i love to see the girl smoke in my bed" (man, who doesn't?) i'll probably end up buying something of theirs; any recommendations? april wine - the whole world's going crazy retro cheez all gussied up and polished shiny-bright. dig those chipmunk backing vox! BTO for the pre-teen set? i like this despite myself. yo, canada! barcelona - i have the password to your shell account great title. the singsong verse delivery feels a little flat. but i like how i keep expecting the chorus to end "i have the password to your heart"; it's satisfying that it doesn't. retro '80s feel abounds, though i may be too old to remember those days accurately. still, i'm flashing back to sunning myself as a middle-schooler, ancient crappy walkman-ripoff turned loud and playing songs i taped off the radio. (toni basil, go-gos.) dark fantastic - the girl with the cross in her car any relation to the boy with the thorn in his side? (sorry.) more new-wavery. veda hille - 26 years i like her voice, tough but plaintive, and the piano bit is nice. are comparisons to kate bush and mary margaret o'hara totally out of whack? the ache of this song is a nice contrast following some of the poppier bits above. emm gryner - revenge a familiar name from onlist mentions. syrupy, not what i'd expect from the title. this isn't my favorite song, but there's nothing overtly bad about it. miracle baby - attack lions cool intro riff! reminds me a little of weeping tile, whom i really like. (though sarah harmer's solo disc has yet to fondle, let alone grab me.) unlike some of the other songs on this side, this one twists and turns a bit more. sarge - the end of july good song. the contrast between the girlish vocals and the toughness of the chorus works well. plumtree - latitude competent, inoffensive pop that doesn't seem to break any new ground. i'd want to hear another song or two before writing them off, though. danielle howle & the tantrums - cartoon in the courtroom so this is what the fuss is about! a more overtly dark and angry sound than i might've expected, and a nice contrast to some of the girlier songs on this side. this reminds me a lot of a favorite bloomington, indiana band, arson garden -- the rhythm, melody, vocals -- less the janglesome guitars of those days, when just about every local band displayed its feelies/r.e.m. crush with pride. way too short! rewind, rewind! kiss offs - rock st. augustine tightly wound, with a nice dose of snottiness. reminds me in spirit and style of of the old hoboken band love child. (god, they were great.) i love the dialogue. he: "give me one more chance." she: "and you'll fuck it up." b'ehl - my favourite part bhel is one of the best dishes at my favorite indian restaurant. unfortunately, this homophone only carries the tamarind sweetness, with none of the crunch, tang, or piquancy of the appetizer. "my favourite part" is pleasant but feels a bit by-the-numbers. (can this description be any *more* strained?) ether net - the next ten words yow, what a blast of a segue! dig those crazy strings behind the driving, punched-up guitars. it's all topsy-turvy! pedro the lion - breadwinner you another cool segue, this time from the bombast and thick layers of sound to this somber a capella gem. like the world's most depressing hymn, fabulous. and the harmonies. and the bitterness. and the feeling of a loss both personal and spiritual. what's more, doug perfectly timed this right to the end of the tape. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ merci mille fois and a big fat danke schoen to doug for a tape of substance and pure-D fun. i need to scrounge up some dinner and give my fingers a rest, but i'll be back in the not-too-distant future with a review of tape 2 (" . . . to the bottom of the sea"). best to all, amy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:53:54 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tape review: I shot an arrow . . . (tape 1, side b) >april wine - the whole world's going crazy >retro cheez all gussied up and polished shiny-bright. dig those chipmunk >backing vox! BTO for the pre-teen set? i like this despite myself. yo, >canada! I'm partial to "Just Between You And Me," one of the all-time definitive (and most-overlooked) power ballads. Seulement entre toi et moi, Andy As of 10:34am (EST), WFMU disc jockey GLEN JONES has broken the world record for longest continuous radio broadcast by an individual. Jonesey now continues to add hours to the previous record of 73 hours, 33 minutes. 82 Hours and climbing... [--from http://www.wfmu.org/jones/lastman.html ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:03:13 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tape review: I shot an arrow . . . (tape 1, side a) On Mon, 28 May 2001, Amy B. P. Lewis wrote: > i gotta thank doug again for making these tapes. a huge breadth of musicians i > hadn't heard but wanted to; ultra-high quality recording (my homespun tapes > always belie my crappy equipment with pops, gurgles, untidy segues, and other > flaws); and gorgeous j-cards. this took a lot of work, and i really appreciate > it. and i gotta think amy for giving a chance to partially redeem myself (?) after the small sordid swap story, with which i meant to, per instructions, pester personally and particularly JeFF Norman, not the list at large. i claim a slip twixt finger tip and computer chip. anyway, in time-honored fashion, i'll annotate amy's response, taking advantage of an opportunity to plug some of the homies with which i salted the tapes... and other souls deserving (or perhaps not). > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > christian marclay - johann strauss > a stately symphonic beginning twists into something funny but sinister once > "the blue danube" takes hold. then the turntable goes mad, mad i tells ya! "a > clockwork orange" meets "songs for the little ones," that collection of > broken-down icecream trucks with decomposing "pop goes the weasel" and warped > mechanized amusement park spiels that would give any kid nightmares. i have a > friend who needs to hear this. from _plays with records_, which deconstructs everything from strauss to hendrix. i love to put this one for people who've never heard it, because watching facial expressions in the moments between when the victim realizes that theres something wrong with the recording and then realies that there's not anything *technical* wrong with the recording is priceless. > home - contract > v. cool, hipster, with a healthy dose of noise. i likes, muchly. > > home - children's suite 3: displaying prisms > who are these folks? lush symphony becomes pop for now people, melds into > something more. pretty damn cool. props to jer, who hipped me to home with the same one-two punch. one of my favorites of the elephant-six-ish folks (these guys are not in the collective, and have less psych-trippiness, but i still justified in citing the long-memoried more-than five.) i thought producer dave fridmann made a gooey mess of some presumably strong songs on the delgado's _great eastern_ (i much prefer _peloton_) but he sure did well by this one, _xiv_. i've gone as far back as _ix_ in home's catalog, but i still think _xiv_ is a great leap forward (worth waiting for). > death cab for cutie - song for kelly huckaby > the strings behind pick up the previous songs' sound and blend nicely into the > more indie-rock songs TK. i like "we have the facts . . . " but it reminds me > of the big snowstorm 5 march when everyone got to leave work except me and my > friend tomoko -- she was trying to finish some dumb graphics for the veep of > mktg. and i stayed to edit the presentation and give her moral support. she > kept replaying my copy of "we have the facts . . . " three or four times, > which helped me get into the record but also sort of made me want to wait > awhile to hear it again. after a month or so, i decided that i'm voting yes. amy hadn't heard "death cab" when i put this thing together, but was already enamored of their label/tourmates pedro the lion, i think those were the guidepost requests. > gingersol - handcuffs > sparer, until the chorus at least. kind of feels like coming down from uppers, > like this nervous strung-out energy doing battle with oncoming weariness. (i > mean that in a good way.) a lot more's going on in here than meets the ear. one of my dark horse favorites of 2000. the best, by miles and miles, of the many elliott smith records released in 2000 that the actual elliott smith had nothing whatsoever to do with. > maggies - green > more minor-tinged pop -- instantly hummable. great blend of male/female > vocals. delish. i've been a negligent lister and haven't gone out of my way to > explore loudfans' bands. that needs to change. sure, but the maggies aren't truly a loudfan band anymore, since their loudfan member max departed for other musical pastures. loudfan emiritus band? i see at themaggies.com that the new linup has a new ep. anyone heard it? this is from _cryptic valentine_, another 2000 top tenner for me. > jennifer marks - green > another fine song with the same title. props for name-checking the incredible > hulk. charming little accordion outro -- where'd that come from? > > jennifer marks - the weather was really nice > this doesn't have the pizzazz of the previous tune. the chorus somehow doesn't > deliver the goods, and i know she's probably intending this sarcastically, but > the song doesn't back it up. this l'il disc was one of my favorite cdbaby discoveries. from _pizza_, which has some of the funniest packaging this side of honest bob and the factory to dealer incentive's _it's not as bad as i'm making it sound_. probably nothing quite as strong as "green" on it, though. > spontanes - green > catchy -- i think this would be a good > driving-around-the-north-shore-in-a-convertible song. makes me bop my head all > around. yay! after losing their old drummer to akutaro (lit. "grubby boy") the spontanes embarked on a year long search for a new trap man. the new model has played three sets so far, have a batch of strong new tunes, and hopefully more recording is in the offing. this is from the "fetching" ep. you can hear it at www.spontanes.com, and anyone who wants a physical cassette copy should drop me or the band a line. where i start to get really self-serving, tapewise: the spontanes have been chums for years, vocalist Julia sings glorious back up on about half of my record, and I play bass in an overtly GBV/Stones/Clash-ish project with Spontanes Joe and Julia. > mother may i - we always seem to break up at christmas time > great title. ratcheting up the rawk factor -- more good convertible music, > maybe because the spaciousness of the sound and the power-guitars (eddie > cochrane comes to mind here). would be a shocking segue snuggled up against > jules verdone's heartrending "little christmas." Added as a bonus track to _33 1/3_ which is full of smart, big guitared anthems in the same mode. engineered (he's self-serving again! watch it!) by our engineer. > moodroom - searching > i don't know how to describe the lilt of this type of song, maybe something > akin to a moebius strip winding round and round, in and out. good shit. one of > those songs that lull you at first then crash boom bang. hey, is the band's > name backwards an "othello" reference? not that i've ever heard, but it's plausible. there are some great players in this band. from "ep2;" see moodroom.net. these guys roam farther afield more regularly than most of my pals, and they're a very consistent live act (maybe a little too consistent, even) so check 'em out if they hit your town. > patsies - b-side myself > another cool title, though i kept wanting to type "pasties." punking it up, > go! and relevant to mixtaping, even. energy overdrive. the patsies recently absorbed half of the milkomatics, so now they have two guitars, and two strong tenor voices to foil Greg's might baritone rumble. it's all good. i can't wait for the next record. Greg insists that the band is a pop band, not a punk band; argue with him at thepatsies@hotmail.com and negotiate terms of exchange for a copy of _but i think i like you_, the swell opus from whence this gem etc. or drop a line to me to be hooked up (cheap!) with a dc comp featuring patsies, moodroom, a mess of other good tunes, and, i fear, a clunker or two. out of 23, though, not bad odds. > feckless beast - face > now where have i heard that band name before? moody, blistering, roiling with > the pent-up anger that you know is going to lead to a full-out argument. i'd > hate to be the arguee. from the snap pop:dc 1 compilation, available exclusively at the 2001 philadelphia music conference, and, uh, from some other thing too. > q & not u - nine things everybody knows > dischord up the wazoo, but not in a bad way. they're actually ON dischord even, not one of the sound-similar labels. i love this band, but seeing them live is like trying to see blue oyster cult live: everytime i try, something interferes. last time it caused a wedding; at least no one has died in a freak snowstorm. yet. from _no kill no beep beep_. starf*r note: i don't know anybody in this band. this was one of the two records that late last year got me to switch camps from the grumbling-about-not-enough-good-music by-people-i-don't-know side to the other side. > slow jets - lick the salty > like 5 great hooks all smooshed together, a play-doh fun factory indeed. the > title sounds like it was thought up by ween. > > slow jets - tangerine crows > more brazen wotthehell archy, wotthehell spirit. i have to say that on the > songlist insert, one could interpret it as "lick the salty, tangerine crows" > -- how trippy! GBV are an obvious touchstone, but the pop is mixed in with a hefty dose of spidery post-punk ala pere ubu, wire, fall, etc. almost a local band; just up the road in baltimore. i don't think they play out much. this is the other of the two records. > new pornographers - the slow descent into alcoholism > this was my first real taste of these guys, and the only song on the tape i > already own. (though i didn't when you sent it -- my most pop-soaked friend > gave me the record for my birthday, along with love's "forever changes" and > gram parsons' "gp/grievous angel.") i luff this song, how could anyone not? indeed. a real scott miller-ish vocal turn in there, too. > scott mcknight - things i'm not > a welcome dose of twang. "john paul sartie" makes me smile every time, sorta > like jonathan richman mugging up "sigmund frood." qui est-ce, zees monsieur > mcknight? i am intrigued. from _it works for me_, available from www.samrecords.com. what can i say about Scott (a.k.a. the "other" Scott)?? if i know anything about writing good songs, he gets some of the blame. we coerced him into co-producing our forthcoming opus, and he plays a lovely little organ bit on the game theory cover. I think his record -- all forty-odd songs of it, is really good. other bands have been covering his tunes for years, some of them even garnering airplay (he wrote americana chart placer "all eyes go" for last train home, whose cd _true north_ was in the pile used to make these tapes, but never, i think, slotted into the flow. = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:41:42 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tape review: I shot an arrow . . . (tape 1, side b) On Mon, 28 May 2001, Amy B. P. Lewis wrote: > without futher ado: > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > hefner - we love the city > clever, clever anthemic opener to side b. thumbs unhesitatingly up. i can ID > with yearning for the tube to run all night. i'm a sucker for male singers > with strange, neurotic, or downright geekazoid voices. > > hefner - the hymn for the cigarettes > winsome, charming, bright. "she smoked in my bed 'cos she thought it would > annoy me / but i love to see the girl smoke in my bed" (man, who doesn't?) > i'll probably end up buying something of theirs; any recommendations? we love the city is the title track from my #2 recommendation; "cigarettes" is from my #1 recommendation, _the fidelity wars_. #3: singles comp. _boxing hefner_. my favorite discovery of 2000, probably. > april wine - the whole world's going crazy > retro cheez all gussied up and polished shiny-bright. dig those chipmunk > backing vox! BTO for the pre-teen set? i like this despite myself. yo, > canada! yeah, me too. title track from the album of the same name. > barcelona - i have the password to your shell account > great title. the singsong verse delivery feels a little flat. but i like how i > keep expecting the chorus to end "i have the password to your heart"; it's > satisfying that it doesn't. retro '80s feel abounds, though i may be too old > to remember those days accurately. still, i'm flashing back to sunning myself > as a middle-schooler, ancient crappy walkman-ripoff turned loud and playing > songs i taped off the radio. (toni basil, go-gos.) that is indeed their schtick. from their new record, whatever it's called. zero one infinity? something like that. > dark fantastic - the girl with the cross in her car > any relation to the boy with the thorn in his side? (sorry.) more new-wavery. i think so, yes. i bought this record 'cause i liked the cover and the band name; was very surprised when it turned out to be a screaming trees guy. he's apparently become one of neko case's boy friends since; he has a new record out which i'm supposed to review, but haven't listend to enough to form an opinion on. > veda hille - 26 years > i like her voice, tough but plaintive, and the piano bit is nice. are > comparisons to kate bush and mary margaret o'hara totally out of whack? the > ache of this song is a nice contrast following some of the poppier bits > above. originally from _spine_. hille is a much better pianer player than the usual run of lilith wannabies, and one of my favorite working songwriters. period. > emm gryner - revenge > a familiar name from onlist mentions. syrupy, not what i'd expect from the > title. this isn't my favorite song, but there's nothing overtly bad about it. can't please all of the people all of the time. from _science fair_. hear "case of tornadoes" when she gets around to recording it before giving up, that'd be my suggestion. > miracle baby - attack lions > cool intro riff! reminds me a little of weeping tile, whom i really like. > (though sarah harmer's solo disc has yet to fondle, let alone grab me.) unlike > some of the other songs on this side, this one twists and turns a bit more. ex-of goodness, who i always thought were terribly underrated. i'm a sucker for anything john goodmanson touches (production/engineering). sadly deceased. was tempted to back this up to "good there are no lions in the street" > sarge - the end of july > good song. the contrast between the girlish vocals and the toughness of the > chorus works well. that's what made sarge tick. from _distant_, the post-break up record. > plumtree - latitude > competent, inoffensive pop that doesn't seem to break any new ground. i'd want > to hear another song or two before writing them off, though. from _this day won't last at all_, which is full of wistful pop tunes just like this one. i'd take issue, slightly, with competent -- they could work on pitch control, and if they had, this might've made my top ten. picky picky mr. pathetic. > danielle howle & the tantrums - cartoon in the courtroom > so this is what the fuss is about! a more overtly dark and angry sound than i > might've expected, and a nice contrast to some of the girlier songs on this > side. this reminds me a lot of a favorite bloomington, indiana band, arson > garden -- the rhythm, melody, vocals -- less the janglesome guitars of those > days, when just about every local band displayed its feelies/r.e.m. crush with > pride. way too short! rewind, rewind! i should perhaps note that this, from _do a two sable_, which also features straight up country rock, is about the hardest rocking thing howle has yet waxed. but, honestly, she's yet to put out a bad record (although you can save the "frog song" 7" for last.) an amazing writer, and amazing vocalist -- she's done the most foot-stomping a capella i've ever heard. not at all a bad guitar player. i'd start with this one; the most eclectic. don't forget, if you get hooked, to rescue a copy of her old band, lay quiet a while's _delicate wire_, probably languishing in a bargain bin near you. > kiss offs - rock st. augustine > tightly wound, with a nice dose of snottiness. reminds me in spirit and style > of of the old hoboken band love child. (god, they were great.) i love the > dialogue. he: "give me one more chance." she: "and you'll fuck it up." tell me more about love child! extant recordings? this is from _goobye private life_, which i love. i'm a ittle less keen on the new one, _rock bottom_ -- it's good, but it ramps up the schtick a bit. > b'ehl - my favourite part > bhel is one of the best dishes at my favorite indian restaurant. > unfortunately, this homophone only carries the tamarind sweetness, with none > of the crunch, tang, or piquancy of the appetizer. "my favourite part" is > pleasant but feels a bit by-the-numbers. (can this description be any *more* > strained?) oh well. from _bright eyes_, not be confused with the band of the same name. > ether net - the next ten words > yow, what a blast of a segue! dig those crazy strings behind the driving, > punched-up guitars. it's all topsy-turvy! this is from _the requisite chemicals_, hie ye to www.requisiterecordings.com to be hooked up with this gem, a richly textured exploration of car crash aftermath. angst, great guitar sound, gorgeous string arrangements, and the really really good (think lloyd cole/bryan ferry) vox of rob cherry. produced by don depew, who's also recently done amazing things for our cronies signs point to yes (www.suffragetterecords.com) > pedro the lion - breadwinner you > another cool segue, this time from the bombast and thick layers of sound to > this somber a capella gem. like the world's most depressing hymn, fabulous. > and the harmonies. and the bitterness. and the feeling of a loss both personal > and spiritual. what's more, doug perfectly timed this right to the end of the > tape. took a little doing. i cheated somewhere to make it come out right -- something somehere fades a hair early. i forget what. from an a capella compilation called _the unaccompanied voice_ or something clever like that. mostly it wasn't all that great -- if i'd been producing, there would have been some more takes cut. - -- d. np lloyd cole _lloyd cole_ (for sale cheap used at local record pusher -- thanks to all for remedial not-commotions suggestions). = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:55:03 -0400 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Dream side ONE > > Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - I Had a Dream, Joe > > The reincarnation of Jim Morrison and the Doors? That sexy, creepy > > voice. Doesn't he have a new album out? > > Yes, but I don't have it or know much about it. I saw him on TV (don't > remember which show. Letterman?) doing a new song, with Kate and Anna > McGarragil (sp?) backing him up. Nick Cave with the McGarrigles backing him? That's really weird. What brought them together? - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:47:58 -0500 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Band names >> hefner - we love the city I see that there is also a band called Chomsky. Is this a trend? It could make for some interesting gig posters. Unrelated, but this might be of interest - http://www.thepolyphonicspree.com/ - - Steve __________ "we must therefore reject the central animating idea of modern Establishment Clause analysis: that taxpayers have a constitutional right to insist that none of their taxes be used for religious purposes." - Michael McConnell, Bush Circuit Court nominee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:21:48 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Band names On Mon, 28 May 2001, steve wrote: > >> hefner - we love the city > > > I see that there is also a band called Chomsky. Is this a trend? It > could make for some interesting gig posters. is there a linguist hefner? i sorta assumed "hugh." - -- d. (epraved?) = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:41:40 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] um, sharples... (ns) Dana L Paoli wrote: > > There's a Beatles auction on eBay right now. I don't think that any of > us will be bidding (it's at $13,000+ right now) but what's kind of neat > is that the seller has posted images of all the documents being sold: a > bunch of papers relating to their Ed Sullivan appearance. Meaning that > all of us have the opportunity to download the scans, which are somewhat > interesting... > > Well, interesting is a relative word, but... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1428097999 $2000 for framing? holy toledo! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:54:14 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Band names >>>> hefner - we love the city >> >> I see that there is also a band called Chomsky. Is this a trend? It >> could make for some interesting gig posters. On Monday, May 28, 2001, at 10:21 PM, dmw wrote: > is there a linguist hefner? i sorta assumed "hugh." Like an E6 thing, but with all the bands being named after linguists..... Well, I was actually thinking of bands named after famous living persons. Someone on another list posted about seeing a bill with Chomsky and another "famous living person surname" band, which struck me as two people who would not share the same stage. I don't think it was Hefner. - - Steve __________ No previous administration has tried to sell its economic plans on such false pretenses. And this from a man who ran for president on a promise to restore honor and integrity to our nation's public life. - Paul Krugman, on Bush, from his book Fuzzy Math. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:07:47 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Dream side ONE >Nick Cave with the McGarrigles backing him? That's really weird. What >brought them together? - Dan Wait, wait, let's tackle the Kylie Minogue question first... Yes, Mr. Cave has a new album out, NO MORE SHALL WE PART. He sounds like Bob Dylan on a great deal of it. Not that it's a bad thing, Andy "In all three Mamet/Pidgeon movies I've seen (_State and Main_, _The Winslow Boy_ and _The Spanish Prisoner_) I felt like any scene with Rebecca in it was in danger of either disintegrating completely or leaping to some heretofore-unglimpsed new insight, and maybe both. I'm not sure that's how "acting" is supposed to work, but it's fairly intense and inspiring to watch." - --glenn mcdonald on Rebecca Pidgeon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:26:34 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Dream side ONE > --glenn mcdonald on Rebecca Pidgeon Anybody with a similar R. Pidgeon fascination should be aware that the trailer for _Heist_, the next Mamet movie, in which she appears, is now in theaters. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #97 ******************************