From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #96 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, May 28 2001 Volume 01 : Number 096 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] You Go(-go) Girl [popanda@juno.com] [loud-fans] Chat [Jer Fairall ] Re: [loud-fans] You Go(-go) Girl [popanda@juno.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 04:10:06 -0400 From: popanda@juno.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] You Go(-go) Girl On Sun, 27 May 2001 00:39:26 EDT JRT456@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 5/26/01 6:21:38 PM, dana-boy@juno.com writes: > > << BTW, Shari is currently stocking up on old 1960's Playboys for a > project > that she's > working on, and the two things that are really amazing us are 1) how > little > skin there was in the magazine back then. Today's Vanity Fair (for > example) > is far racier and 2) the articles really were pretty great, > especially the > interviews. >> > > What should really be amazing Shari is how much those 1960's > Playboys cost, > although I notice there's a sliding scale. No comment on the Belinda > pics > except to say that she looks very stunning, and very much like > Belinda. > However, I've got to goof on anybody who thinks the Notorious Tour > Video is > pro-woman. The band spends most of their time trying to pressure > some poor > girl to strip for the camera and do bad things. Fave moment: When > Belinda > assures the potential victim that "We're all liberals here!" To her > credit, > of course, Belinda later wised up enough to put in a good word for > Ronald > Reagan. > Yikes. I stand corrected. Goofing on me is in order. I guess I shouldn't open my mouth if I haven't seen the video... only bits and what others have said (wanna make me a copy, JRT?). I retract my previous position. Sheesh. Well, all I can say in their defense is that they were f***ed up, and when I used to get that way I would do things I regretted later, forget where I parked my car, etc. The 2001 BC ain't the 1981 version. Just like none of us are either. Thank God. In 1981 I was wearing blue Sperry Topsider canvas boat shoes with green chinos and pink polos. But, thankfully (mercifully...there IS a higher power) I discovered New Wave in 1982, and gave up the preppy test pattern look forever. The Go-Go's, the B-52's and Devo made me chunk my watchband with the crossed tennis racquets on it in favor of Converse Chuck Taylors, Levis, t-shirts and an Army jacket with buttons of New Wave bands all over it from there on out the rest of high school. I found myself hanging out in the school smoking area. The people were much more interesting.... - -Mark, who's annoyed he missed Marshall Crenshaw playing in Spartanburg tonight (near that lonely flower stall) p.s. Dana, the new Mark Robinson album is not a let down. It isn't as angular and Pylon GYRATEesque as the Flin Flon stuff, but there's still that heavy Factory records influence, which is what I like best about his work. The new record isn't the IMPERIAL record, but it's worth owning. I doubt you'd be disappointed. *Also, anybody catch SNL tonight? The two snotty clerks in the clothing store were priceless. "Diesel is SO 1994." Then the actors couldn't keep it together and busted out laughing. That's the funniest thing I've seen on SNL since Mike Meyers did "Dieter's Dance Party" on SPROCKETS ten years ago... "And number one for the twelfth week in a row! 'Escapade' by Janet Jackson!" Gotta go... there's a half-eaten taco waiting for me in my Tercel LOL ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jer Fairall Subject: [loud-fans] Chat Jase and I are hanging out in irc.eskimo.com (#loudfans). Drop by, if you can. Jer np: GOD BLESS THE GO GO'S ===== Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:23:06 -0400 From: popanda@juno.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] You Go(-go) Girl On Sun, 27 May 2001 14:06:29 -0400 jenny grover writes: > popanda@juno.com wrote: > > > > In 1981 > > I was wearing blue Sperry Topsider canvas boat shoes with green > chinos > > and pink polos. > > eeyiikes! I'm glad you found your real self! > In 1981 I got married. I was a heavily punk and new wave > influenced > Southern bo-ho, just on the cusp of discovering REM :) > > Jen > When I was that age, Jen, I didn't have a real understanding of class connotations. If I knew that I looked like an ad for Reagan Youth, and what Republican politics were all about, things would have been different, but hey, I was only 14, and at that age I could've cared less about politics. I thought the preppy look was cool because I hated the '70s...even today it makes me think about the color beige and my parents fighting, and depressing, string filled bored housewife music that makes you want to go and drive your LTD off a cliff. And, when that look came along in about seventh grade (1979) I was just beginning that search for myself that we all go through, and I thought it was such a radical departure from what had gone before, and it looked old-fashioned, and I liked that. I also was dressing kind of like Mr. Rogers already, because my dad would get me clothes from outlets and bargain bin type places (only the best for me), and I really liked it actually, because I used to fantasize about going back to the fifties or early sixties, (I used to do weird things as a kid like write fan letters to Annete Funicello, and when the Mickey Mouse Club went off the air in 1976 on a local station, I got upset and wrote the president of WSPA TV in Spartanburg, and he sent me this nice letter explaining why they did it) and I wanted to dress like Ernie Douglas on MY THREE SONS. He got adopted by a nice family, and I wanted Fred McMurray to be my dad, too, though I was crucified by my peers for dressing and being the way I was. In fact, I gave up on church at about age 14 for YEARS (I was dropped off by my mom...nobody else would go with me...such loving familial support) because the guys in my church were merciless! (talk about the love of Jesus...RIGHT!!!) I used to watch all those shows from back then religiously, like LEAVE IT TO BEAVER and OZZIE AND HARRIET. We were one of the first families in town to get cable, (1975) so I remember when there were no commercials. I watched WTBS (then WTCG) out of Atlanta constantly...absorbing all those old TV shows into my brain. When PLEASANTVILLE came out I totally identified with the main character, except I was doing what he was doing in middle school. When I discovered New Wave music I was already a pop junkie, buying a new 45 with my allowance every week (since about 1976) and I had already discovered the Go-Go's and the Human League and Soft Cell and M and Devo and the B-s and others before '82. I bought all those 45s. It wasn't till '82 that I noticed the thrift store way the B's and Go-Go's were dresssing as well as the bits of the past Devo were rehashing were EXACTLY what I was looking for. I guess I was trying to be postmodern by being preppy but not really understanding that wasn't really how to go about it. I also hated the hick stupidity I saw around me, and I thought the Preppy look was a look smart people wore, so like everything else I do, I guess I went too far with it. Interestingly though, in THE PREPPY HANDBOOK by Lisa Birnbach, which came out around 1980 or so, there is a little blurb in there about "the prep/punk connection," and I remember that it said that this particular brand of preppy could tell you "all about what the Talking Heads sounded like at their last concert," so there is a loose affiliation, if you will. Unfortunately they can also tell you exactly what the "trickle down theory" is about as well. XXXOOO, M np The Ladybug Transistor ARGYLE HEIR ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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